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Voice Commands - Make It Even More Awesome?

I've recently been having a play with the Voice Tag function on my Wizard. I can call any of my contacts by voice, and I can perform a plethora of functions on my phone by voice (helped by the added hardware button functions that Pocket+ provides). Now i'm wondering if I can do even MORE by voice, i.e. a spoken password, dialing by saying each number, that kind of thing?

Yeah,
Dump the cheezy Cyberon Voice Dial and get Microsoft Voice Command or Cyberon Voice Commander.
Both allow you to access PDA functions such as launch programs, access calander etc.
Additionally they allow "Dial 444 555-1234"
In my opinion MS Voice Command is better.
I've played with Cyberon Voice Commander because it will read e-mail and text messages but I've found it to be useless. Also Cyberon has too much of a delay from activation to ready for voice input for my tastes.
Oh yeah, neither of these requires "Voice Tags", they work by recgonizing your spoken voice!
Cyberon Voice Commander costs about $20,
MS Voice Command is about $40.
Both can be purchased at Handango.com

Now ... call me silly, but wouldnt it be a slight security risk shouting your password at your device to unlock it ?

Danny-B- said:
Now ... call me silly, but wouldnt it be a slight security risk shouting your password at your device to unlock it ?
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Maybe that's why none of these products supports it!!

I have given up on MS Voice Command. It works well, as long as you dont use it with Bluetooth.
It dials once or twice, but then stops responding to the Bluetooth command button. The only way I can get it to work is to press the bluetooth button twice to redial the last call, quickly hit the button again to cancel the call, and then, sometimes, the long press will initiate voice command again.
Jumping through hoops like this make the program pretty worthless to me. To dial numbers in the car is all I need if for, and that is where it doesnt work. I will stick with the voice tags.

jimmyhauser said:
I have given up on MS Voice Command. It works well, as long as you dont use it with Bluetooth.
It dials once or twice, but then stops responding to the Bluetooth command button. The only way I can get it to work is to press the bluetooth button twice to redial the last call, quickly hit the button again to cancel the call, and then, sometimes, the long press will initiate voice command again.
Jumping through hoops like this make the program pretty worthless to me. To dial numbers in the car is all I need if for, and that is where it doesnt work. I will stick with the voice tags.
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That's not VC's issue, it's your BT stack issue. On my K-JAM I press once to activate the BT audiogateway, press again to issue the VC. Works every time.

JNGold said:
That's not VC's issue, it's your BT stack issue. On my K-JAM I press once to activate the BT audiogateway, press again to issue the VC. Works every time.
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Press once activates the phone over bluetooth (sometimes anyway, sometimes nothing happens at all), pressing again does nothing. Believe me, I have tried EVERYTHING. I was messing with it for two hours doing every combination I could think of. The only thing that works is a double press for redial, end the call right away, then I can activate VC again(sometimes). And the cycle repeats.
On the other hand, built-in voicetag dial works everytime, and I dont have to activate the bluetooth first. One long press prompts for voice dial EVERY TIME.
So I beg to differ, it is an issue with voice command.

JNGold said:
That's not VC's issue, it's your BT stack issue. On my K-JAM I press once to activate the BT audiogateway, press again to issue the VC. Works every time.
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Same for me. Sometimes the recgonition isn't the same over bluetooth, but I never have to try more than twice. I use my VC for everything.

jimmyhauser said:
JNGold said:
That's not VC's issue, it's your BT stack issue. On my K-JAM I press once to activate the BT audiogateway, press again to issue the VC. Works every time.
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Press once activates the phone over bluetooth (sometimes anyway, sometimes nothing happens at all), pressing again does nothing. Believe me, I have tried EVERYTHING. I was messing with it for two hours doing every combination I could think of. The only thing that works is a double press for redial, end the call right away, then I can activate VC again(sometimes). And the cycle repeats.
On the other hand, built-in voicetag dial works everytime, and I dont have to activate the bluetooth first. One long press prompts for voice dial EVERY TIME.
So I beg to differ, it is an issue with voice command.
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So how do you account for it working consistantly fine for some, and others not?
BTW, my VC is loaded on the device, not on a storage card.

VC Usage Vs. VS VC Memory Usage
I've had VC on and off of my 8125 since I bought it in April.
The main problem I have with MSVC is whether its use (or lack there of) validates the amount of memory it uses.
For someone that makes calls primarily off of his recent call list, I find that the usability benefit does not outweigh the memory usage.
Wish there was a way to disable / enable the functionality, as to release that memory for other applications.

JNGold said:
So how do you account for it working consistantly fine for some, and others not?
BTW, my VC is loaded on the device, not on a storage card.
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Believe me, I am not an expert on this, I am just trying to figure things logically. But I would bet it has to do with the fact that you are probably using a different bluetooth handsfree device than I am. Maybe that was what you were referring to when you said it was a bluetooth issue. Or maybe it is the fact that you have a different model of phone.
What I am saying is that it cant be the bluetooth software on my phone, because the cyberon voice dial works fine over bluetooth, where the MS voice command does not.
And I have voice command on the phone also. All my programs are. I only keep music and videos on the storage card.
And voice command works great when using on the phone itself. I am amazed at how well and how quickly the recognition works. It just doesnt respond well to my Nokia car kit. And maybe that is the problem.
My wife's car has the same bluetooth kit as my car, I am going to try it in her car one of these days to see if I have the same problems there. She has a Nokia 6682, and her bluetooth voice dialling works great.
And also, does VC really use that much memory? If so, I think may take it off the phone. (I use it a little when not in the car) But if it is considerable, then I agree that it is not worth it.

the problem is that without any BT headset i can't get the microsoft voice command to work.
i installed it, dedicate the button. the problem is that when i press it the mic sign appers, i hear the bip and if i say "HELP " it does absolutly nothing.
NOTHING
it just stands there, then another bip comes and the mic sign disappears .
what should i do?

did you turn your mic auto-gain off like the instructions said?

problem solved.
don't know how ...soft reset and bam ! it worked.
the problem is that it hardly recognizes 0 ( zero )
well...i think the old voice dial would do the trick for me...

Keys to success:
1. Load in main memory. (Yes, it's a hog, but to me it's worth it.)
2. Be patient. Sometimes it takes a moment or two to activate.
3. Make sure your volume is not muted. (I admit it, I often walk out of a meeting and get frustrated with why it isn't working... oh, volume is off.)
4. Experiment. Watch the phone while you are playing.
Here are my results with Motorla hs850 .
1. Usually I push once to open the gateway and a second time to activate VC. (Note, I only wear my headset when I need it.)
2. Sometimes the gateway is open for whatever reason and I'll get an immediate bong. So after the first press, I give it a second to see if it will come up.
3. Otherwise, I may get into three presses. One which I think is opening the gateway but is actually opening VC before the bong sounds. A second which I think is activating VC but apparently is closing it. The third press usually then does the trick, but sometimes I'll even have to go to number 4.
So my strategy is:
1. Push button.
2. Wait a slow count for response.
3. Go back to #1 until success is achieved.

Voice Command

Anyone here use VC1.6 with Bluetooth?
Has anyone else noticed that the confirmations don't work?
I've seen threads on other forums about this, but no solution yet over there.
Figured I'd bring it up in case folks here have the answers.
Basically, here's my conversation:
Press BT button
Device: *Beep*
Me: "Call John"
Device: "Call John?"
Me: "Yes"
Device: *Timemout Beep*
Now, the confirmation works when used on the device just fine.
When on the headset, its like it gives up without trying to hear me.

MS Voice Command v 1.6 works almost perfectly on my Sprint Mogul. It has one flaw - when the button you map is first pushed it does not give off the beep, but the small microphone on the top bar shows up. When the little mike shows up, you can say your commands and it works perfectly.
The next time the button is pushed, the beep is heard and the mike shows up.
Also, VC is activated by my Motorola S9 stereo BT headset. If I push the right button on the headset, I hear the beep and can give the command into my headset even if the headset is in my backpack.
The failure to beep on the first button push is a small problem I'm sure can be worked out. For me it is no problem at all. I just push the button and begin speaking.
I own many other HTC products and VC works as well on the Mogul if not better than any of them and I haven't even hacked it yet.

The problem only shows up when dialing a number from the BT headset and the confirmation is played back. It seems there is a problem with the mic after the confirmation is played so you can't reply "yes" or clarify. It works fine for opening programs or if the confirmation is turned off and you are lucky enough for it to hear you correctly

ImCoKeMaN said:
The problem only shows up when dialing a number from the BT headset and the confirmation is played back. It seems there is a problem with the mic after the confirmation is played so you can't reply "yes" or clarify. It works fine for opening programs or if the confirmation is turned off and you are lucky enough for it to hear you correctly
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Yeah, this makes browsing media impossible!
I used to say "Play music" wait until it asks me what type to sort by "Artist"... wait again "Dream Theater"... and then the music would start.
Now, I can't get past the first prompt because the mic is shut off. Very weird indeed...

Voice Command 1.6
One thing that I've noticed with my S9 and 1.6 (wm6 but had similar issues in wm5) is that VC gets confused by the stereo headset, announcements will generally shut off the headset for a moment and come out of the phone speaker, if I hit the button on the headset, I will get the VC beep in the headset, but it seems to be listening to the mic on the phone, and if I hit the phone's activation button, the beep comes through the phone, but it then seems to be listening to the headset for commands. I've found no reliable way to 'straighten' this out, however, I did notice the other day when I reset my phone and used the 'play' button on the headset to reinitiate the phone/headset connection rather than initiating it automatically when I turned on the headset that it seemed to be functioning normally for the first time in a long time. I've not tried to reproduce that yet, but will try it tonight.

Traumtanzer said:
One thing that I've noticed with my S9 and 1.6 (wm6 but had similar issues in wm5) is that VC gets confused by the stereo headset, announcements will generally shut off the headset for a moment and come out of the phone speaker, if I hit the button on the headset, I will get the VC beep in the headset, but it seems to be listening to the mic on the phone, and if I hit the phone's activation button, the beep comes through the phone, but it then seems to be listening to the headset for commands. I've found no reliable way to 'straighten' this out, however, I did notice the other day when I reset my phone and used the 'play' button on the headset to reinitiate the phone/headset connection rather than initiating it automatically when I turned on the headset that it seemed to be functioning normally for the first time in a long time. I've not tried to reproduce that yet, but will try it tonight.
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Scratch that, I wasn't able to duplicate this, so seems to be a random occurrence, I know that every once in a while it does seem to work correctly, but that's very rarely.

List of Voice Commands
Has anyone got a list of voice commands, and is there any way to add new commands?

My VC 1.6 bluetooth problem is even more frustrating. It always recognizes my contacts, but the confirmation doesn't work AND I CAN'T DISABLE IT!
I uncheck the confirm box on the VC settings, but it still tries to confirm.
Is there something I'm missing?

Sprint does it again
WM6 has voice command built-in, but Sprint decided to disable it and not make it part of the ROM, so when you install 1.6 over the already there application, is when you lose part of the functionality.

Ha! I found my voice command problem -- I had a duplicate contact.
What voice command said (even after I turned off confirmation) was "Joe Blough at Home 3 found" and then it displayed one of them. When I removed the duplicate and turned off confirmation -- IT WORKED!
Now, if they would just fix the confirmation to work properly...

Ok.....my problem is it will not announce incoming calls, no matter what i do...everything else seems to work fine, but it will not announce incoming calls threw the bluetooth nor speaker, am i missing something???

Bottom line: Voice Command 1.6 is buggy, and needs to be updated to work 100% with WM6. Start complaining to Micro$oft.

TC1 said:
Bottom line: Voice Command 1.6 is buggy, and needs to be updated to work 100% with WM6. Start complaining to Micro$oft.
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It's not buggy at all, it wasn't made for use on WM6, it's for WM5, we're lucky it works as well as it does.
You can bet MS is already working on a new version, question is when will it be released.

Is there an echo in here? What part of "needs to be updated to work 100% with WM6" didn't you understand?

I was saying it isn't buggy as you said, it works great for the OS it is intended to be used on.

Funny enough, VC works great for me... The only issue I have is sometimes it does not play the first tone when I press the VC button...

Shaska said:
Funny enough, VC works great for me... The only issue I have is sometimes it does not play the first tone when I press the VC button...
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It works fine if not using bluetooth. (aside from the missing first tone sometimes)

Dishe said:
It works fine if not using bluetooth. (aside from the missing first tone sometimes)
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And also doesn't always confirm commands. At least from my experience.

primenall said:
It's not buggy at all, it wasn't made for use on WM6, it's for WM5, we're lucky it works as well as it does.
You can bet MS is already working on a new version, question is when will it be released.
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I have the Alltel 6800 with WM5 and am experiencing the same problems as you WM6 folks.

It seems to be an issue with the Mogul/MSVC combo like you said, also a friend of mine put the WM6 Rom on his 6700 and he says MSVC confirmation works fine.
Maybe a Radio incompatability, I'm just a novice though?

Mobile staying on after call in bluetooth headset mode

I am looking for a tweak or registry fix/setting to help me with the following problem:
On my parrot bluetooth car kit in headset mode after a call is finished the phone stays on. This is not a problem if you finish a normal call without handsfree because you switch it off manually but when you are driving with the phone in your pocket, the phone is liable to screen presses. I have been inadvertently creating/editing contacts and making notes with the phone in my pocket after use in the car.
The screen autopower off does work if the screen is not activated for a few minutes but the inadvertent screen presses occur within this timeframe.
Any help is appreciated - thanks!

I have a similar problem when using my bluetooth headset (Samsung WEP200)…
When I make a call using the headset the screen stays active, and if I turn it off during a call it turns it self on again after the call has ended. Not fun if it’s in my pocket and it decides to call someone back without me knowing.
Is there a general setting or fix that disables the screen when you answer or make a call with the headset active?

Have you found any solution to this?

aneben said:
Have you found any solution to this?
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Nope, not yet…
I can’t believe that there aren’t a lot more people with this problem!? It’s a REALLY STUPID problem to have on such an advanced phone like the Blacksone when nearly EVERY basic mobile phone has this feature since the dawn of BT headsets.
This might leave me no other choice than to retire my beloved Blackstone and dig up my old Samsung phone so that I can drive my car safely with my phone in my pocket…

There is an app called Touch InCall Screen Tweak. With that you can configure so that screen will go off quickly when answering and ending calls and bluetooth headset is used. It works great for me!

aneben said:
There is an app called Touch InCall Screen Tweak. With that you can configure so that screen will go off quickly when answering and ending calls and bluetooth headset is used. It works great for me!
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I actually tried that app yesterday but didn’t get it working as I wanted. How did you configure it?
I guess I can try it again – would be great if it works!

Well, now I can make a call without worrying about it to end (with the InCall Touch app), but when the call is ended we're back making random calls without knowing to whom.
This amazes me, how this feature can be missing. It’s not something I admit to my iPhone friends who still tries to find something that Blackstone can’t do – cuz this even works on the iPhone!
I'll try tweaking till I or someone else can find a solution to this rather embarrassing problem.

S-Voice not remembering speakback aloud

When using s voice I always have to press the button on the bottom left to turn on the feature that speaks aloud back what s voice says. When I am using s voice in the car hands free I can never figure out what s voice wants me to do because it never talks back to me. I always have to turn back on the talk back feature. It never remembers it. I know that I can use driving mode but I don't want to. I just want to use normal s voice but it seems that with that setting turning off every time s voice turns on I have to press that button. Is this problem happening to other people. How can I fix this. Thank you.

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This is still not working and I don't know what to do. When I use Bluetooth in my car and activate s voice, it never automatically speaks back to me. If I manually enable it to speak back to me and I say something like, "call jack", it will say "do you want to call jack", and then it will not automatically listen to me for a response, I would have to hold down my Bluetooth car button again and say "yes" to make a call. This is very frustrating and any help with this issue would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[Q] How to make LG HBS-730 Bluetooth work?

How can we make the LG HBS-730 Blue tooth headset/headphone work with the LG G2 (clearly an aptx phone too)?
LG Voicemate shows "connected device does not support Bluetooth voice recognition"
With Stock ROM but rooted phone
1. It pairs etc just fine BUT the call button appears to do nothing?
2. Assuming we can get the call button to work how to get google to be the dialler (not sure what default is as headset/phone's call button appears to not function)

The Tone+ are compatible with the G2, By hitting the call button on my set I get the stock android voice control.
If I swipe up from the home button I can just say "ok google" through the tones and it works.

EGBTMagus said:
The Tone+ are compatible with the G2, By hitting the call button on my set I get the stock android voice control.
If I swipe up from the home button I can just say "ok google" through the tones and it works.
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huh? how is it possible that yours does that yet mine doesnt?
all the other buttons work except for the call button

Mine works perfect. Works with AptX too after I forced that enabled on my phone. Voicemate and Google. Phone button brings up stock android voice commands. VS980.

Steamer86 said:
Mine works perfect. Works with AptX too after I forced that enabled on my phone. Voicemate and Google. Phone button brings up stock android voice commands. VS980.
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hmmm wonder if Verizon has slightly different software?.....
How did you force it to work with AptX and why force it when the box clearly states AptX? (least the AU model D802TA does)

evangelionpunk said:
hmmm wonder if Verizon has slightly different software?.....
How did you force it to work with AptX and why force it when the box clearly states AptX? (least the AU model D802TA does)
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I'm on LG-D800 AT&T and aptX was not enabled when I bought it. Maybe yours is. Look at this post on how to check is aptX enabled or not and if not how to enable it. BTW, I'm on CleanROM and call button on HBS730 initiates voice dialer.
I forgot a link;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47084027

thanks alex I went ahead and followed those steps.
I also unpaired and repaired the device and now HOLDING the call button down (as opposed to just pressing it) autocalls the last number dialled. hmmmm
Voicemate still doesnt recognise it

That is how holding the button is suppose to work. Given it a couple quick clicks? There is a slight lag every once and a while due to sleep. Odd yours is not working... Also, Verizon's isn't displayed or enabled out of the box.

Steamer
On HTC One just have to click it once (not hold it down for a second or so).
Just checked and on CM single click does result in voice dialler popping up etc ie working properly hmmm

evangelionpunk said:
thanks alex I went ahead and followed those steps.
I also unpaired and repaired the device and now HOLDING the call button down (as opposed to just pressing it) autocalls the last number dialled. hmmmm
Voicemate still doesnt recognise it
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There is one more thing you should try on stock ROM. Disable Voice Mate. It's useless anyway. Maybe LG HBS730 is having a conflict with it.

The native way the button works for redial is hold... I may be confused as to what you meant. I use the Tone+ every day. A single quick push works 99/100 times for me for voice command. That is very odd, works all over for me. I am on Verizon's variant though. Yeah, Voicemate is subpar to Google's search, and Google searches the phone anyhow. Its only useful to make fun of, or I have just yet to find out any good use.

evangelionpunk said:
thanks alex I went ahead and followed those steps.
I also unpaired and repaired the device and now HOLDING the call button down (as opposed to just pressing it) autocalls the last number dialled. hmmmm
Voicemate still doesnt recognise it
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I just did this and it's amazing solution for me. Maybe it will work for you as well. With press of the call button on your Bluetooth headset you'll start Google Now Voice Search. From it, you can dial, redial, navigate, play song or album, launch app, search the Web,... Even works with screen off.
Voice Mate? Nah... Google Now Voice Search is much better solution.
Look at post #30.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46870972

Thanks! Now I can use Now instead of ****ty voice dialer.

2 simple commands is all I need
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I just did this and it's amazing solution for me. Maybe it will work for you as well. With press of the call button on your Bluetooth headset you'll start Google Now Voice Search. From it, you can dial, redial, navigate, play song or album, launch app, search the Web,... Even works with screen off.
Voice Mate? Nah... Google Now Voice Search is much better solution.
Look at post #30.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46870972
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Thanks this worked perfectly but the fact is Google Now doesn't work well.
What I would like to see is when I push the Bluetooth button on my headset, it opens the Voice Mate application.
I really just want to be able to say:
1. "Play Music" to start shuffling through my on board music, or Google Play music either way (it's all the same)... Google Now can't do this at all as much as I've tried saying "Listen to <song/band/album name>".
2. "Call so and so" to make phone calls. The system Voice Dialer App works better for this than Google Now.
Google Now may work better in general if I am actively using my phone with my eyes and hands but to me the idea of using voice commands is so that you don't have to look at or touch your phone. My Lg Tone + opened S Voice no problem on my SAMSUNG Galaxy Note II (on older version of Jellybomb... 12.1 I think it was)... Why does the LG Tone + not open Voice Mate by default on the LG G2? I don't get it... this seems like a given for LG.
That's enough ranting lol. I love this phone so far. Anyway if anyone can bump this to a developer or something it would probably be relatively easy for a smart person to fix... I am dumb I just follow the smart people in this world
Thanks yall! I hope we can figure this out. :laugh:

My testing with Voice Mate and Now has reverted me back to stock commands. Just works. None work well enough.

Yea G Now and Voice Mate both don't work that well but for simple commands like "Play Music" and "Call Steve" Voice Mate works fine.