So, after diggin' for long time in registry on Pocket PC 2002 ROMs I've found nice feature - HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\
(may vary cause this is from 2003 ROM, for now I have but was like this and works on 2002), has value WakeUpPowerOff = 180 (by default).
This value (in seconds) determines, how long device will be on after:
1. power on by "power" button (and no other activity - no taps, no any hardware buttons pressing) - it userful for example to see "what's on
today", time, etc...
2. power on by incoming event like SMS or calendar one.
And after you touch screen\ other button - then as I found starts another, "original" timer, defined in Start->Settings->System->Power.
I've set above WakeUp parameter to WakeUpPowerOff = 12 (smallest that works really at mine device) and what I got? This:
When I need to look into today's or time or missed calls etc - I just press power look at screen and devices turns iself off byself. Not great effort but - heh - longer live for power button
But this is more important: When incomes SMS (I have gate from internet inbox to sms so have a lot of smses) - devices comes on only for 12 secs - for day it increases significantly battery life. (aha - 180sec and 12sec - differs!) (etc...). So we can set auto Off timer for 1 minute and work in normal mode (when we tap or read something, smaller is not so much siutable), but with this WakeUp timer also when we don't use device we get very small time to byself on\off-ing and longer battery life.
But after appearing 2003 in my wallaby and then after bying himalaya I have changed this parameter with no effect.
Now I find solution!
We need to change one more parameter in that registry subdirectory named:
DisableGwesPowerOff=1 by defalut. Simpy set it to 0.
And now on my XDA II (and on XDA I with 2003) this hacks works.
I think this will be userful for our XDA community. Thanks for paying attention for this text.
Hey, that is a very, very cool hack! I have always been annoyed when my XDA2 is in my pocket and I receive an SMS when I can't reply. During the 2 minutes before it switches itself off I find that the screen gets pressed a lot in my pocket with sometimes disastrous results.
This hack seems to have no side-effects at all. The XDA2 stays switched on in the cradle and changing the Power-off-on-battery setting doesn't reset this auto-off timer.
I dare to suggest even that it is perfect! Thank you very much nugged.
Thank you realy love this one :idea:
Works fine with 5sec off on XDAII.
goodluck
2 SiliconS: That's some kind of pleasure to share with info and to help.
2 eme: 5 sec? hmm... Ah! I think I have bigger lag cause I have setted up password protection and maybe it needs some time to initialize after on/before off... You haven't password protection on?
Anyway - it's works.
I've just had a thought: does this hack affect the alarms and appointment notifications? Does the machine turn itself off after 12 seconds and stop the alarm working? That might be a problem for some people if so. I can't test at the moment - my wife is asleep
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Just tested, quietly . It does affect the alarm. I set a repeating alarm. The machine turned on, sounded the alarm once and then switched off. When I turned it on again a few seconds later it sounded a repeat.
I think this hack is excellent if you don't use your XDA2 for alarms or notifications. Otherwise it might cause problems. :?
@nugged:
every PocketPC turns itself automatically on at midnight, to perform some magic regarding alarms etc. It is a known problem that sometimes it turns off too soon again, before having finished its work. There are even programs to make this time-out longer. Question: does you hack also affect this time-out, or is it something completely unrelated?
Cheers
Daniel
2 tadzio: Mine never do this. What "reorganization"? Mine works fine, don't miss any appointments and haven't midnight magic power-ons ...
2 SiliconS: Yes, so that's maybe who need to have long alarms install additional soft and\or set up time longer, smth like 15 seconds.
As for me - yes, I use mine device lot of time so it often in mine hands and at my eyes so I don't need long alarms.
Lets explore info above (at 1st post) here more deeply maybe someone find solution for short WakeUpPowerOff time and working long alarms if needed.
Put down the pipe!!
What are you guys on, hacking the on time? I must be really confused... what about just using the power settings to turn of backlight after 10 seconds and power off if not used for 1 minute?
That's all I ever do and mine lasts easily through a weekend with a few hours of talk time and checking my e-mail at least 20 times.
2 wayandrs: That's your decision If you satisfied with that standard system - good . Anyway - it's not an order - it's just advice
Look - when you setup to run your backlight off after 10 seconds - try to work normally then .
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2 tadzio: Mine never do this.
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Yes, it does. You just don't see it because it's only a partial power-up: the display does not get switched on.
The OS needs to clean up appointments, and set alarms for the new day. Most of the time it succeeds, but sometimes the device powers off automatically before the OS could finish, resulting in alarms not going off. This is what tools like "Wakeup Tweak" are for - they just extend the time-out until the device powers down again.
Also, zendrui (the PocketZenPhone author) had a lot of... umm... fun with this feature when users configured PocketZenPhone to automatically switch modes at midnight. Ask him, I think he knows a lot more about this than he ever wanted to know.
Cheers
Daniel
I miss the old 2003 future and wish SMS dose not turn IMATE-II on..
hope some body listen there and give a soltion. it was built in before some bodies complain about it.
2 eme: 5 sec? hmm... Ah! I think I have bigger lag cause I have setted up password protection and maybe it needs some time to initialize after on/before off... You haven't password protection on?
Yes, no password protection.
Btw I managed to connect over BT to Linux machine and have acces to local net and web. That 's nothing ok. But managed also to use device cca
100m+ away form my BT acces point. Just put USB dongle on extended
cable and if possible outside of your room. My is on the attic.
Think, PC makes som interference to BT rx for sure. If anybody interesting
on this can write som more..
goodluck
2 eme: after setting this hack do you have some troubles with 'midnight self turning-ONs of device with turned off display and some reogranization' as tadzio has?
2 tadzio: so, device turning itself on withot turning on display? Sounds very interesting. Anyway - we can say so our devices stays on every time even turned off by the key, they only slowing down processor and turning off display and some hardware, cause they need to refresh SDRAM memory, to track and remember appointments to wake up at needed time, etc.
And, anyway, if this 'midnight ONs' are have place, if they are not turning on display - ppc works in another mode and I think this registry value is not related to them. But this - for me - is very strange information.
Please, Daniel, give detailed info/links, if you know this question good or don't bewilder other peoples, who read this topic.
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2 eme: after setting this hack do you have some troubles with 'midnight self turning-ONs of device with turned off display and some reogranization' as tadzio has?
I do not have any appointments stored in my device.
Cant wait for Linux to run on it with graphical enviromet.
Than we can all forget this misterious M$ hacks.
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eme said:
nugged said:
2 eme: after setting this hack do you have some troubles with 'midnight self turning-ONs of device with turned off display and some reogranization' as tadzio has?
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Oh, I didn't mean to say that I have any problems. In fact, before I apply this hack I wanted to make sure that it will likely not cause any problems, that's why I asked if the author knows about any possible interaction between the midnight wakeup and his hack. I would suspect there is none, but I am not sure.
Cheers
Daniel
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Please, Daniel, give detailed info/links, if you know this question good or don't bewilder other peoples, who read this topic.
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Here is more information about this: http://www.mtekk.com.au/browse/page826.html
Cheers
Daniel
problem need help
Alrite i tried with a 12. It works well. As expected, but things happen when my phone rings, with a long rintone i have, it got cut off and then it went back to standby mode, making the call still ringing behind the background, after a while it was turn on again. It annoying when i cannot hear the first part of the ring. I end up not picking up importants calls... Anyway to help this desperado? ow i want to change back but its like the same...
Hello,
Just wondering if anyone else has a similar problem or knows how to fix this. About 60secs after turning my phone off it turns itself back on, but only briefly (about 10secs). Obviously this can be quite annoying - esp if it's in my pocket by this point and decides it wishes to call someone!
I have an imate Jam
Cheers
Si
use any third party softwares like mem-maid and check you notification queue. Else check the background programs,processes that make your fone turn on..
Regards
Carty..
Mudstuffin said:
Hello,
Just wondering if anyone else has a similar problem or knows how to fix this. About 60secs after turning my phone off it turns itself back on, but only briefly (about 10secs). Obviously this can be quite annoying - esp if it's in my pocket by this point and decides it wishes to call someone!
I have an imate Jam
Cheers
Si
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I have the same problem! And I know the cause! It is hardware problem. Try to pull out your flashcard! See? Must be no turn-ons! If it so, I think you understand now, what the problem is...
Carty said:
use any third party softwares like mem-maid and check you notification queue. Else check the background programs,processes that make your fone turn on..
Regards
Carty..
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this worked for me. (tnx Carty )
i had the same prob. that the device occasionally turned on by him self...wich can be very annoying... so i installed mem-maid... did only a full scan and clean with it... and now it's fixed... very strange, but it worked hehe
When I connect my Tytn to the PC the today screen is displayed for the whole time I am connected, however I do remember when I first had the device that there was a slide show type of screen saver playing.
Is there a setting I have missed resetting after ROM upgrading?
I have looked in both activesync settings and the tytn but cannot find anything obvious.
Al
Anyone?
As no one has answered I'm wondering if this is just too dumb a question and the setting is obvious?
Al
Anyone Help
BUMP
Someone must surely know the answer to this?
Al
Don't know if it's what you're after, but in the standard "Pictures & Videos" application, look in Options, and then the Slide Show tab. There's an option called "Play screensaver when connected to my PC and idle for 2 minutes". Never used and don't know if it works, but that's the nearest non-3rd party thing I've heard of.
Screensaver
Thanks for the reply. I was sure that was the answer but sadly it isn't. The check box was empty so I checked it and plugged into the PC but after half an hour the screen was still on the Today screen.
Can't think of anything else except maybe the ROM doesn't let the screen saver work.
Al
I just did a SR and now it works so I guess that was the solution!
First of all sorry for opening a new thread.....did search but didn´t find anything.....and I usually get annoyed myself by people asking question that have already been answered....
Problem: once in a while - and in no understandable pattern - my HD does not switch to standby after the set timeout (60s for me). Soft-reset does not solve the issue, but it disappears after a while (several times turning the display on/off). Have not changed/installed anything recently. First blamed it on S2U2.....uninstalled and problem seemed to be solved, but only until today - now it´s back in all its glory....
Already compared the - what I think - relevant registry values to my Diamond registry....no suspects there.
And no, there is no video-, audio-, or navigation program running in the background, as the problem manifests itself right after a restart/soft-reset....
Any ideas?
Thanks!!
mine does the same...I've just gotten used to it.
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mine does the same...I've just gotten used to it.
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Hmmm....I don´t want to get used to it, because whenever the device wakes up (missed call, reminder, alert etc.) the display stays on (altough dimmed) using up battery power....
Same problem here with my Diamond.
Any news or ideas on this?
Same for me, and it's a very big problem!
I've read in some of the other posts that it may have to do with the activation of auto-screen lock that is included in the ROM, but this isn't turnd on in my case!
I use my Blackstone professionally, which means I need as much battery power as possible on one charge! At the moment this problem makes the device last for about half a day during work!
If anyone has a fix, I would appreciate hearing about it
Can the phone wake up if i put it off when i have sett the alarm.
Is it based on a setting or is it not possible!?
Its good if its possible to have it off on nights and get the alarm going in the morning.. saving power ehen i am out of my home..
Please give me som advice.!
fpow said:
Can the phone wake up if i put it off when i have sett the alarm.
Is it based on a setting or is it not possible!?
Its good if its possible to have it off on nights and get the alarm going in the morning.. saving power ehen i am out of my home..
Please give me som advice.!
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I can´t help you, but i´m also missing this function, on my old SonyEricsson worked this, i tried today with the trick on my TD2 but no, it doesn´t work by default.
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I can´t help you, but i´m also missing this function, on my old SonyEricsson worked this, i tried today with the trick on my TD2 but no, it doesn´t work by default.
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My nokia´s and ericsson are all doing this... tis is realy bad that its not working!!!
This was also on my Blackberry. It would automatically switch off at 10.00pm and wake up at 7.00am (weekdays) then however at the weekends...
There are loads of really clever people contributing to these forums, hope its not too long before a solutions appears.....
Mark
anyone any ideas?
Auto off at 10.00pm
Auto on at 6.30am (with an alarm) (M,T,W,Th, F)
all adjustable as per in G-Alarm.
thanks
I though if blackberry can do it so could could you guys....
Well, I think that if you are switching it off, it's off...
But you can use software to switch to 'plane mode' for instance like phonealarm or other programs.
And then let it in sleep mode.
Without any connexion, the phone will not use the battery...