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My XDA II keeps turning itself on, as if a program is waking it up.
I have checked that no programs are running using the option under Start/Settings/System/Memory.
Is there a way to see what processes are running in the background?
It does this even when stationary on my desk so it's not an accidental button press.
Has anyone else experienced this?
I'd appreciate any suggestions on tracking this down as it has a huge impact on battery life.
Thanks.
yup... mine was caused by Activesync. Make sure you have all the settings set to "Manual".
You can also download "Notification Check" by Scarybearsoftware. It will go through your PDA and look for extra events that don't belong there.
For some time I was getting a calander event for some birthday that didn't even exist!
yep, here too
I notice that it turn on after upgrading from 1.66 to 1.72
I'm not sure that could be for this...
I'll try "Notification Check"...from scarybear software
I had this and it was doing my head in! But using the check notifications did not help. I thought that possibly some of the games I installed to my SD card may have caused the problem.
So I copied everything off the card, and formatted it in the pocketpc (resco explorer), not from a card reader! Then I copied everything back and since then not a single un-intentional turn on.
Cheerio
Howard
Well, it didn't fix it for me either. I'm now testing with the Storage Card removed.
I'll post back if I find anyhting.
Another problem is when your GPRS connection activates itself!! soo annoying.
Taking the storage card out made no difference.
So far, however, with Flight Mode turned on it seems to be fine.
If this is the case then that would be really annoying.
What would be going on with Flight Mode Off to cause the XDA II to wake up?
With the radio off, GPRS is also off (as is BlueTooth and IR).
Is GPRS turning the device on?
Immediately after the device powers itself on, tap the signal meter and see if GPRS is connected.
Do you have a POP3 or IMAP4 Email account set to retreive messages at a regular interval?
Thanks, I'd already checked those.
The radio off was a red herring. It woke me up at 02:06 for no reason that I coulod find, with radio off.
I'd really like to find this before doing a hard reset so that I can fix it again if necessary and posting here will help others.
There's nothing worse than curing a problem and you don't know how.
My feeling is that it is being caused by some program you have loaded . . . or worst case, by a combination of programs. Unfortunately, if that's the case, the most likely way to track down the culprit will be to -
1. Hard-reset your device.
2. Run it for a time with no additional programs installed to make sure the problem is gone.
3. One at a time, install a single additional program and run it that way for a while to see if the problem occurs.
4. Only after proving that the problem does not occur with that configuration do you install another program.
5. If the problem occurs after installing a program - Hard-reset the device again and install only that program - then you know if the program itself is causing the problem or if it is a combination of programs.
This does not necessarily sound like FUN . . . but I can't see a better way to positively identify which program is causing your problem.
HTH
Thanks for that. That is my thinking too.
I'll do that when I've got a few hours to spare and I'll post the results, identifying the offending program.
ON and OFF
I have the same exact problem.
And I did found out that this is some of the program I install.
Example : SPB Pocket Plus (also other Today's plugin)
I did a hard reset, and try with out any program, then ad one program, then two etc..........until I found out that SPB was the one.
unfortunatly I love some of the plugin, but I have to get rid of it, if I don't want my battery to fall off in one day.
Bruxelles5 wrote:
..........until I found out that SPB was the one.
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This is curious, as I have SPB Pocket Plus 2.0 installed, and I have never experienced an unintended/spontaneous turn-on (of my imate anyway ).
try turing battery monitor off in sprite backup
and also turn off the battery bar thing in spb2
that sorted my probs out
Turning on
I use Pocketplus and don't have a turning on problem, except when cradled, in which case it continuously tries to sync, even with everything set to manual.
Don't think Pocketplus is the cukprit.
SMW1
Anyone know how to get a bluetooth icon showing? I vaguelly recall a app written for WM2003 that provided this, in an attempt to override the built-in dissapearing icon issue. Can't find it tho...
Here you go...
Here is an app I took from my ba wm5 rom. I modified it for the jj. I think this is what you were looking for.
Awesome! Thanks a stack.
To everyone else, this puts BTIcon.exe in your windows diectory, with a link in your startup folder. Now u have an icon in your today tray, that u can click to turn BT on or off. Best feature is that you can see if BT is on at a glance, rather than watching the light for up to FIVE seconds to see if it flashes (I usually wacth for 10 seconds before I realise it's not on!)
craigiecraigie4 said:
Awesome! Thanks a stack.
To everyone else, this puts BTIcon.exe in your windows diectory, with a link in your startup folder. Now u have an icon in your today tray, that u can click to turn BT on or off. Best feature is that you can see if BT is on at a glance, rather than watching the light for up to FIVE seconds to see if it flashes (I usually wacth for 10 seconds before I realise it's not on!)
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hOW DO YOU INSTALL THAT?
copy cab to any directory on PPC, then run from within PPC
i just use fn and the right arrow, you can see the status of the phone,bt and the wifi connection
BTIcon installation procedures
Hi,
Here's a page out of my HTC Universal guide.
Regards
Michael
Mistad, could you please email/point me to where to find the BTIcon.exe cab file? I tried search the forum but failed to find it. Thanks and Happy New Year to all.
Hi,
Have a look at the PDF attachment in the post just above yours.
Regards
Michael
Thanks Michael. Got it working.
Thanks mistad for posting this BT icon app.. as well as giving me easy access to the Bluetooth settings, it seems to (touch wood) have cured the problem of Bluetooth switching itself off overnight!!
48hrs with no bluetooth connectivity loss.. a personal record for my Exec
Interested to see if it cures anybody elses BT problem..
Spoke a day or so to soon. BT stayed on for longer than it has ever done, but I just checked it and the "Turn on Bluetooth" box was unticked.
Which is interesting in itself, as the BT Icon did not show a red line through it, as far as it was concerned it was on. Once I opened the BT settings and ticked the box, my headset was on again.
To further test things, I went into BT Settings again, unticked the box, and the BT Icon correctly displayed with the line through it.
So somethings turning BT off in the background and not telling the rest of the system about it..
Anyone else having similar/different results ?
That was a great today plugin. Is there any same for WiFi? I miss the WiFi icon down in the right corner wich was a in 2003SE.
craigiecraigie4 said:
Awesome! Thanks a stack.
To everyone else, this puts BTIcon.exe in your windows diectory, with a link in your startup folder. Now u have an icon in your today tray, that u can click to turn BT on or off. Best feature is that you can see if BT is on at a glance, rather than watching the light for up to FIVE seconds to see if it flashes (I usually wacth for 10 seconds before I realise it's not on!)
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Awesome One. Have been looking for one such for a long time now, Cheers , Taurus
gaspx said:
Spoke a day or so to soon. BT stayed on for longer than it has ever done, but I just checked it and the "Turn on Bluetooth" box was unticked.
Which is interesting in itself, as the BT Icon did not show a red line through it, as far as it was concerned it was on. Once I opened the BT settings and ticked the box, my headset was on again.
To further test things, I went into BT Settings again, unticked the box, and the BT Icon correctly displayed with the line through it.
So somethings turning BT off in the background and not telling the rest of the system about it..
Anyone else having similar/different results ?
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@gaspx
Yes, I have come to exactly the same conclusion. The only solution I have found thus far it to disable all power off features (including the on/off switch) and simply close the JJ lid or use 'screen toggle' in PDA mode. This means that battery life drops to approx 24 hours! The main problem is that if I leave it in PDA mode (screen facing out) and switch off the screen with 'screen toggle' (PocketPlus), then if I receive a SMS or missed call then the screen turns back on and runs the battery down much quicker. What would b really usefull is if there was an application that switched off the screen after a set period of inactivity.
Sorry guys for my OT, is there a way to add more application shortcuts in the tray ?
Thanks
wi-fi manager icon
does any1 know of a wifimanager icon, same as the bticon
thanks
Yes that's what I've been looking for. A WiFi Switch.exe to do the same thing Bluetooth Icon does... but for the WiFi. Is there something like that available?
What's the status of this post folks? Any new ideas or improvements?
Greetz ET
I've been trying to use XN Resource Editor toi change the BT off icon to being greyed out instead of the red slash and am running into problems. I got the icon changed, but the pda can't run the app when I replace the BTIcon.exe in the Windows directory...can anybody take a look at it and see what I've done?
I know I know there are tons of topics about this
But here this out. I ve got the problem for about a week and hope some one can help me out.
After 30 secs my screen goes to dimmed-fase ( correctly as I setted )
And after 1 min. it suppose to auto turn it off but, it does try to by it only locks it down so the screen stays dimmed and doesnt go in standby ( total black screen and stuff )
Any one know what this might be?
Ive check the power settings and I have ticked the auto turn off after a ... minutes not used :S
So hope some one can help me out cause it drains my poor battery
sounds like a software issue, perhaps someone here knows the correct registry settings applicable to powersaving
I hope some one knows Cause I thought there were more folks that are looking for this
is it plug in for recharging? if yes, it's normal, during rechargind, it dimms out after 30 mins or so (please check both options, to dim out after 1-2 mins.)
Nope just normal use, so I sure hope some one knows the right registry setting to it
When plugged in USB and sync with PC, the Touch HD stays on with dimmed backlight. No matter how long the settings to turn off the backlight, the backlight still keep on its minimum level.
This is totally different with my Hermes, which the backlight can turn completely off after some time.
ahlok_hk said:
When plugged in USB and sync with PC, the Touch HD stays on with dimmed backlight. No matter how long the settings to turn off the backlight, the backlight still keep on its minimum level.
This is totally different with my Hermes, which the backlight can turn completely off after some time.
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I noticed that happens even when using a bluetooth to sync. No matter cable or not, connected activesync keeps light on.
Arrggh? Does no one know the right registry key value to it ? its quit annoying
*bump*
Really no one knows anything about this
same problem for me
I use LumOS, are you using it too ?
I removed LumOS, and everything is good now
Do you have MobileMagic installed?
I did and it had 'Stay On' activated in its settings which meant it always stayed on!
Might be the case here too!
koxx said:
I removed LumOS, and everything is good now
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Even if my HD has no LumOS or Mobile Magic (from hard reset), the problem (backlight stays on during USB sync) still exist.
P.S. My previous X1 has the same behaviour...
koxx said:
I removed LumOS, and everything is good now
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Well I had it installed but I removed it later one cause I didnt liked it too much
But the problem still occurs so there most be a registry value that didnt change with the install :\ or something
I've looked up some registry value's but really dont know which one i've have to edit
or if I even have looked up the right one
BatteryTimeOut 30
BatteryTimeoutTemp 0
BatteryTimeoutUnchecked 0
Maybe some one that still has the function that the screen goes black after a while.
Can look up the registry value's ? here is the path I dont know if i'm looking at the right point:
HKCU\\ControlPanel\Backlight
Maybe some one is kind enough to list all of there value in this map ?
PS:
My problem is that my blacklight doesnt go fully to black and that's when using it normal. Not connected to anything or something .
It usualy goes to black after a XX amount of time. but that doesnt happen any more :\
Dang no one is offering his self up too look up those registery valves
Guys, the fix is simple. You must have turned on the Autolock feature using HD Tweak or Advanced Config.
If yes, just turn it off.
I have got the autolock function on, did it via HDtweak
Havent check it via Advanced config.
But I dont know what you mean with the last sentence?
Should I turn it on or off?
Edit:
Well dang you were right, i've turned off the autolock function.
And now the display does go to black.
But I find it strange that it worked nicely a few weeks ago and now the problem occurs
so any idea?
*bump*
still no one has found the solution?
wrong reply
Hi,
ich have strange problem:
My Touch HD goes in Standby when used as a USB Disk. After one minute or two, the display deaktivates and the device goes instandby. The connection the my pc is lost even during a filetransfer - it drives my crazy.
The only solution for the moment is to touch the display to prevent the device from sleeping.
Has anyone an idea how to stop this silly behaviour?
Thank you
Thorsten
P.S.: When connected the the pc in active sync mode, everything is ok an the device never sleeps...
Are you using any device lock software such as S2u2. If so check the external power settings. They should be set to off.
No devicelock software...
tcmax said:
Hi,
ich have strange problem:
My Touch HD goes in Standby when used as a USB Disk. After one minute or two, the display deaktivates and the device goes instandby. The connection the my pc is lost even during a filetransfer - it drives my crazy.
The only solution for the moment is to touch the display to prevent the device from sleeping.
Has anyone an idea how to stop this silly behaviour?
Thank you
Thorsten
P.S.: When connected the the pc in active sync mode, everything is ok an the device never sleeps...
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Have you tried changing the power settings? "Set to go off after X mins inactivity" might have something to do with it!
Abram said:
Have you tried changing the power settings? "Set to go off after X mins inactivity" might have something to do with it!
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Yeah that will probably help, had this same problem, drove me insane as well. Just set it to charge on usb connection and set the 'On External Power'-setting 'Turn off device if not used for' to something like 30 mins. If that doesn't help than you could try AEBPlus, you can assign a button to set the device to not turn the screen off at all.
Yes,
i have tried these settings - no change.
Also, there is activity - the usb data transfer, this normally should kepp the HA alive.
A few weeks ago everything was ok, it doesn´t sleep when connected to a pc...
Thorsten
Do You Have Scapps Advanced Config?
Under Power management - USB Charging - Yes keeps device alive, No puts it to sleep.
Thank you,
but Schaps config is installed and already USB charging is set to "yes".
It drives me crazy :-(
tcmax said:
Thank you,
but Schaps config is installed and already USB charging is set to "yes".
It drives me crazy :-(
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Might be a real pain, but maybe you could do a hard reset, as all the other solutions don't seem to work.
The same problem here. I tried everything to prevent my HD from turning off. It looks to me like it doesn't recognize the connection per USB as it should. Because if I change the settings for Battery-Mode e.g. standby after 30 minutes, it works for ... ca.... 30 minutes
Anyone an idea why the hd doesn't recognize the usb connection? A Hard-Reset doesn't seem to change anything regarding this problem.
HEy,
I have exactly the same problem. Have u found out anything yet or does anyone else know what this is about? It happens even if I turn off all the options for auto darken or turn off display in energy options.
Its gonna drive me crazy too, argh
Edit:
Take a look at the last answer of this thread, sorry but it its german. But it fixed the problem in my case!
http://www.pocketpc.ch/htc-touch-hd...-sich-trotz-festplattenmodus-per-usb-aus.html
Hi BanTu,
thanks for this link - it really solved my problem.
Settings - System - power management - disable shut down when connected (even if there are 30 min, in my case).
Thank you very much
Hi,
The last couple of days I have noticed the back bottom of my phone getting quite hot and the battery running down very quickly, Ive had a play around and the ony thing that is constant is activsync running in the background, I never use activsync so I dont know why its running but its really starting to piss me off now.
My battery is down to 79% and ive only made 1 quick call and sent 2 msg's in the last 4 hours!
Can I disable activsync completely? Like I said I never use it, if I want to put something on the SD card I put it on the card and I use MyPhone to back my stuff up!
thanks for any help!
for me it´s the same pproblem....any idea ?
There was a thread about manilla consuming more power than the original Win6.5 interface. I thought the same and I think the presence of Activesync always open in the background in Manilla is one of the reasons for this.
When I close Manilla and use 'Titanium' power consumption is less.
When I use Manilla it does not matter when I open the taskmanager but Activesync is always running and therefore trying to sync and using power.
Anybody can state this or, hopefully, has a solution.
PS. The old trick, fooling with a non excisting server, does not work.
If you open the activesync app (start, tools, activesync) then you can set the schedule options to manual. I've had a play this morning, and I can't remember what you have to do to enable the schedule menu item, so I can't help you any more I'm afraid. This bugged me on my HD before my HD2, and my Diamond before that, but I've never had the problem on my HD2. That's how I've fixed it previously anyway.
Incidentally, I doubt it actually uses much power. It's just a service that sits there and waits for activesync events. I don't think it actually does anything until it's needed.
Good luck!