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Damn phone keeps turning itself on

Upgraded to the new 1.60 ROM hoping to cure this annoying problem but if anything its worse.
I turn the phone off and within 5 minutes its turned itself back on for no apparent reason. No notifications or anything. Cant be doing my battery life any good if it keeps switching on
Any ideas?

That may be something to do with the way that ActiveSync is set up.
I've had this kind of problem in the past and found that by killing activesync by using a task manager of some variety and changing my 'network' settings that the problem goes away

Please excuse me, im quite a newbie at this xda malarky. My xda also turns its self on randomly since installing 2003. you said change your network settings. How and what do you change them to? I made sure that activsync is turned off, but it doesnt make much difference either way.
cheers

I have experienced the same...
And, I've been on multiple ROM's with no avail.
I'm not sure anyone has ever found a solution.

My activesync is turned off, but the damned thing keeps turning on. Its sitting in the cradle at present and it turns on every 3-4 minutes!!!

It is Active Sync
I had this problem with my charger in the car. It is not sufficient to kill the Activesync. You would have to go to the options in the Activesyn menu, go to the new options button in the PC tab (the first one) and there disable the box with the name "Enable PC sync using this connection". This you will have to enable each time you want to sync via the cradle. I don't have the problem in the original cradle, it is only with the thirdparty car charger. I sync via IR or bluetooth and that is always available via the menu in Active Sync.
Good luck!
Johan

ActiveSync i can understand when its in the cradle but currently its sitting on my desk and still turning on at random intervals sometimes 30 secs after i switch it off!!!

Signal strength maybe?
I have same problem, happens mostly in car but not exclusively.
I get the feeling that it's related to the cellular signal strength and the device loosing or regaining the GSM connection.
San Francisco has several zero or almost zero coverage areas so it's not unusual for a phone to loose and then regain a connection while driving or walking.
I would love this device if it worked as expected but at this moment it is the source of endless frustration.

im also having these problems they are head doing never used to turn itself on as soon as i hard reset it just started to do this now and its annoying me so much

Im also having these problems . I find a solution using registry cleaner of pocket mechanic.
Bye

Guys, Check the setting of the ActivSync, most probably you will find a schedule for synchronization is set every certain time. So, you have to switch it to Manual Sync.
I think this should soulve your problem.

Sprite Backup
I too had this problem. For some reason the enabling Sprite Backup battery monitoring and Scheduled Backups caused this. try turning these features off if you have it installed.

I have same problem, its really anoying, have not found a way to stop auto connection even after changing some setting on my computer Activesync & XDAii activesync. I'm guessing theres no way to stop it.
Is there an active sync update available? I'm using 3.7 (build 3083)

For those whose unit turns on by itself, please check:
From your PPC:
Start > ActiveSync > Tools> Options > Mobile Schedule
Make sure all 3 options are set to "Manually".
From your Desktop PC ActiveSync:
Tools > Options > Schedule
Make sure every active options are set to "Manually" as well.

You can manually sync but Activesync still keeps "looking for changes"

I need for help plsssss
if some body plsssss attch the last eddition of xda2nbftools because I am living in Saudi Arabia, and the web site to can download this file is BLOCKED here in Saudi Arabia, they are blocking web sites here then u can't open it at all and no way to can download it unless if it attached here in this forum

Here is it:

Same for me too,
Mine can turn itself on almost as soon as i turn it off, its a running battle to get it to turn off and i very rarely win, I have accepted the fact that mine will stay on most of the time now and have a second battery to help me through the day,
I checked all my settings and all mobile schedule settings were on manual and all the active options are set to manual too, so it wasnt those settings causing the problem,
I cant believe the lack of support that O2 are providing, if this was an HP handheld there would have been a fix for each problem as it cropped up within a week as they have done with each of their handhelds

do the people experiancing turn ons have a card in the Sd slot? i do but i notice when the device is off...... put a sd card in and the device turns itself on i only started to notice it turning on when i got my SD card i might take it out tonight and try then?

Yup, i have a card in the slot all the time, took it out for a few hours this morning and it was no different, still kept turning itself on,
I looked a bit deeper into it this morning too,
It seems that i use it, turn it off and it turns back on 13 seconds later, i turn it off again and it turns itself back on again 13 seconds later, so i try to turn it off and the power button has no effect, i have to press it twice to turn it off, then it seems to stay off for at least 30 minutes before going through the exact same sequence again,
I will list all my installed programs a bit later when i have more time, hopefully everone else can do the same (whether you have the problem or not) then we can see if there's a common program that is on all the XDA2's that might be making them turn on and see if its absent from the XDA2's that are fine

device couldn't wake up after turning to sleep mode

I just got AMEO from T mobile which I believe the same as HTC advantage.
despite of being SIM locked by T-mobile, I am experiencing another problem in waking up the device after it goes into sleep mode.
After I left the device idle for few minutes, it turn the whole screen off. (not only the back lit).
I can see the LED for BT/wifi still blinking.
But no matter which button I press, it couldn't be turn on at all.
As final resolve, I have to soft reset the device every time after it sleep!!!
Can some experts here advise me? is it a defective unit? or some other settings are wrong? Do I need to return it to the vendor?
I don't want to keep the device always on by disabling the auto off feature in power setting either.
Does someone have the same problem like me?
Thanks for any advise in advance.

What happens if you put it on the keyboard while "asleep"? Even if it means taking it off there first.
If doing that and pushing the power button fail to turn it on, it's a defective unit.

it's the same problem even i attach it to the keyboard.
a bit funny though, if i press the power button from the side to turn it off. I won't have any problem to turn it on.
but if i leave it to auto off mode, then i can't turn it on until resetting it from the back hole.
can it be improved if I flash to other ROM?

My Ameo does it occasionally - I find that (re)attaching the keyboard tends to bring it out of sleep better than pressing the power button. I get the impression that by pressing the power button, it sometimes gets confused that its still on and tries to turn itself off (even when it is already off). Tends to lead to a reboot every few days though. Waiting (fingers x'd) for WM6 to see if it behaves better.

do you guys have this option
settings>button>lock
try to toggle the checkbox to see if it helps

I'll try it! I found it under Settings/System Tab, 'Key Lock' icon.
I'll report back within the week.

I can confirm that it doesn't help my AMEO.
anyway, thank for your thought.

Digital.Diablo said:
I'll try it! I found it under Settings/System Tab, 'Key Lock' icon.
I'll report back within the week.
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To digital:
can I ask for a favor from you. could you try to make the device auto power off without sim card in.
and see whether u will have the exact problem i have or more frequent it dead...
due to my unit is locked to T mobile network, i still haven't put any sim card in.

Tried it without simcard in but it still turns on ok after the fix. TBH, sounds like you're getting the issue more than me - mine only does it occasionally (once every couple-3days) and as yet, I've not managed to locate a consistent cause. I'll keep my eye on it though with the fix and let you all know how I get on.

the other thing that i can think of out of at the moment is that you are running some prog from the sd card/microdrive in the background so when you try to switch your device on then it does not get started and hence the problem...
try tweaks2k (you can use the trial version)
it has a bunch of settings for this... (just check that it is compatible with ameo first)

install 'screenoff' and assign to one of the button.
it works fine.
have to make work around like this now. no idea why this problem only happen to my AMEO...
anyway, thanks for all of u!

royalmail said:
Does someone have the same problem like me?
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I have a similar problem. My device does not wake up in one case from 10 approximately.
Frequency of occurrence of a problem decreases if to close the phone's program compulsorily.
In other branch to me have told, that the problem can be because of the Active Sink's program. Have allowed advice to disconnect automatic start of this program. But I cannot check up because my program all the same is started if to switch off an option of the automatic device. :-(

hard reset can solve the problem completely. ;-)

I'm pleased to say that the 'button' tweak posted here has worked... So far!
Thanks Gents (and lasses if there are any).

That happened to me too yesterday.
I hard reset it and reinstalled everything to microdrive now. (trying to eliminate the possiblity of compaction thread) Removed SPB Pocket plus, which I've come to be quite suspecious by now. Also removed true VGA. So far I have not got a single freeze yet, touch wood. If it runs okay for a few more weeks with no freezing, will put back true VGA and see how it goes again. Will try to isolate the offending software bit by bit.

Hi,
I've had the same problem with my Advantage
After some weeks of test i have found how to solve the problem on my Advantage. perhaps it's only works on mine but you can try.
i have installed "all" progs on memory and not on microdrive. on microdrive i have only a few exe like wififofum or progs not intend to run when i turn my Athena off.
then no more problem waking up my athena.
I think the problem could be that microdrive cause a time out or thing like this when we wake up the PDA then athena freeze waiting about datas from microdrive.
then for me now it's programs like browsers, sscontact, traylaunchers etc .. => memory
programs like painting tool, etc ... => microdrive and close (kill process) them before sleep mode.
and all is ok now for me. The only freeze in 1 week was Pocket IE freezing (but the reason is pocket IE sucks)

There was actually another point that I forgot to mention concerning the freezing. I found out that the free miniSD card came with the bonus pack was actually faulty. With the pocket mechanic professional benchmark, I managed to see only less than 200kb/s read and write! I did a hard reset, and installed everything on microdrive, and touch wood, I have not got a single reset or freezing yet these two days. I install nothing into memory, as we all know that it takes up to 2 seconds to write a block of data into NOR ROM, which is why we should always shift our directory of IE cookies/history/cache away from the main memory. Since the main memory (NOR ROM) is good for executing program in place but terrible in writing, Microsoft's MikeCal thinks we should not keep any data there. (See this thread: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/03/16/552996.aspx ). I try to keep the memory as free as possible to minimise compaction thread kikcing in. Will see how it goes in the next couple of weeks and take on from there.

I'm happy to confirm that, after a weeks testing, the button 'fix' seems to have resolved the issue! Thanks all.

I have been experiencing similar problems.
After being left on standby for a period of time (>10mins), the unit sometimes goes into "autistic" mode.
i.e:
Power button does not function. Unit GSM light flashes, but will not resume from sleep.
I've tried the following:
Attaching USB cable. No change.
Attaching keyboard. No change.
Calling phone. No change.
Soft reset. Starts ok.​
I have now tried:
Settings/System/Key Lock
- set to 'Do not lock buttons'​
However, I suspect ActiveSync.
The unit was attempting to Sync every 5 minutes, while connected with a USB cable. I therefore followed advise (read elsewhere) to create a dummy server to allow an ActiveSync schedule to be created, then deleted.
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=246522
This is coincident with the start of the problem.
Regards

Devany said:
I have been experiencing similar problems.
After being left on standby for a period of time (>10mins), the unit sometimes goes into "autistic" mode.
i.e:
Power button does not function. Unit GSM light flashes, but will not resume from sleep.
I've tried the following:
I have now tried:
Settings/System/Key Lock
- set to 'Do not lock buttons'​
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I had same problem once I enabled Key Lock function.
However, once I disable key lock, it works fine again.

Help! How do you keep the Trinity turned off when connected to a PC?

I like to charge my devices connected to my PC, but I don't want the screen on. If I tap the power button to turn the Trinity off, it stays off for a minute or two and then turns back on. Is there a way to keep the PDA/screen off?
Thanks in advance!

Go to connection settings in Activesync on the PC and uncheck "Allow USB Connections", this should stop any syncing and hopefully the device will stay off.

Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately it means my Trinity never syncs ever, now. It'd be nice if it would sync once when you connect the device, and then not again until you click the Sync button or disconnect and reconnect the device.

I think, that I saw in SKTools under ''tune up'' an option, that you can turn off auto sync.

Trdonja said:
I think, that I saw in SKTools under ''tune up'' an option, that you can turn off auto sync.
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Thanks, but that's a commercial program, which seems a bit of overkill to turn a PDA off?

Try this.
Go to Settings > System > Power > Advanced
and check the "On external power, Turn off device if not used for" and choose the minutes.

omar302 said:
Try this.
Go to Settings > System > Power > Advanced
and check the "On external power, Turn off device if not used for" and choose the minutes.
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Thanks, but I'd already tried that. No luck.

Use a program that allows to map a hardware key to the "toggle screen" function. One such program is the Windows Media Player. Put that program in foreground and toggle the screen off.

anonimo said:
Use a program that allows to map a hardware key to the "toggle screen" function. One such program is the Windows Media Player. Put that program in foreground and toggle the screen off.
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Good idea! I'll try that later. Thanks!

don't kill me if this is kind of a stupid answer
to keep the PDA off (charging only) - use a 'power only'-USB-cable
or just for not syncing / installing the device I activate WMStorage.

schmeichler said:
don't kill me if this is kind of a stupid answer
to keep the PDA off (charging only) - use a 'power only'-USB-cable
or just for not syncing / installing the device I activate WMStorage.
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That's interesting. Never heard of a power-only USB cable. I kind of want to keep using generic USB cables, so I think I'll try the keeping-the-screen-off trick, though. Thanks for the reply.

I think the one I have came with old usb-drives in times where usb 1.1 didn't always feed enough power.
So this one has two ends - one 'full-featured' and a second one for additional power which can be used for charging only.

schmeichler said:
I think the one I have came with old usb-drives in times where usb 1.1 didn't always feed enough power.
So this one has two ends - one 'full-featured' and a second one for additional power which can be used for charging only.
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Ah ok. That's old sk00l.

Display stays dimmed

I know I know there are tons of topics about this
But here this out. I ve got the problem for about a week and hope some one can help me out.
After 30 secs my screen goes to dimmed-fase ( correctly as I setted )
And after 1 min. it suppose to auto turn it off but, it does try to by it only locks it down so the screen stays dimmed and doesnt go in standby ( total black screen and stuff )
Any one know what this might be?
Ive check the power settings and I have ticked the auto turn off after a ... minutes not used :S
So hope some one can help me out cause it drains my poor battery

sounds like a software issue, perhaps someone here knows the correct registry settings applicable to powersaving

I hope some one knows Cause I thought there were more folks that are looking for this

is it plug in for recharging? if yes, it's normal, during rechargind, it dimms out after 30 mins or so (please check both options, to dim out after 1-2 mins.)

Nope just normal use, so I sure hope some one knows the right registry setting to it

When plugged in USB and sync with PC, the Touch HD stays on with dimmed backlight. No matter how long the settings to turn off the backlight, the backlight still keep on its minimum level.
This is totally different with my Hermes, which the backlight can turn completely off after some time.

ahlok_hk said:
When plugged in USB and sync with PC, the Touch HD stays on with dimmed backlight. No matter how long the settings to turn off the backlight, the backlight still keep on its minimum level.
This is totally different with my Hermes, which the backlight can turn completely off after some time.
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I noticed that happens even when using a bluetooth to sync. No matter cable or not, connected activesync keeps light on.

Arrggh? Does no one know the right registry key value to it ? its quit annoying

*bump*
Really no one knows anything about this

same problem for me
I use LumOS, are you using it too ?

I removed LumOS, and everything is good now

Do you have MobileMagic installed?
I did and it had 'Stay On' activated in its settings which meant it always stayed on!
Might be the case here too!

koxx said:
I removed LumOS, and everything is good now
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Even if my HD has no LumOS or Mobile Magic (from hard reset), the problem (backlight stays on during USB sync) still exist.
P.S. My previous X1 has the same behaviour...

koxx said:
I removed LumOS, and everything is good now
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Well I had it installed but I removed it later one cause I didnt liked it too much
But the problem still occurs so there most be a registry value that didnt change with the install :\ or something

I've looked up some registry value's but really dont know which one i've have to edit
or if I even have looked up the right one
BatteryTimeOut 30
BatteryTimeoutTemp 0
BatteryTimeoutUnchecked 0
Maybe some one that still has the function that the screen goes black after a while.
Can look up the registry value's ? here is the path I dont know if i'm looking at the right point:
HKCU\\ControlPanel\Backlight
Maybe some one is kind enough to list all of there value in this map ?
PS:
My problem is that my blacklight doesnt go fully to black and that's when using it normal. Not connected to anything or something .
It usualy goes to black after a XX amount of time. but that doesnt happen any more :\

Dang no one is offering his self up too look up those registery valves

Guys, the fix is simple. You must have turned on the Autolock feature using HD Tweak or Advanced Config.
If yes, just turn it off.

I have got the autolock function on, did it via HDtweak
Havent check it via Advanced config.
But I dont know what you mean with the last sentence?
Should I turn it on or off?
Edit:
Well dang you were right, i've turned off the autolock function.
And now the display does go to black.
But I find it strange that it worked nicely a few weeks ago and now the problem occurs
so any idea?

*bump*
still no one has found the solution?

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PC connection issues after root/sdk instal

The title says basically all. After full unlocking my Ativ-S, and in that process naturally installing the sdk, I have random problems on connecting to my laptop. I have to boot the phone to get connected. Before the root I never had any problems.
Oh and when I get connected, the green disconnect device safely icon appears and dissapears after connection, so I cant disconnect that way anymore... Could this actually be the cause, as the device has been dicsonnected wrong?
Help is appreciated as this is annoying!

It's been a little quirky for me too; the trick is that the phone has to be locked (pin-locked, not just lock screen) when you connect it to the PC, and then you need to unlock it; that *should* work. Did you apply the full-FS-access hack yet? That one seems to make it even harder.
By the way, you don't need to do the "safely disconnect" thing as long as there's no data being transferred. It's not USB Mass Storage, where you can actually corrupt the filesystem by unplugging the device in the middle of an operation, either; if you disconnect mid-transfer, all that will happen is the transfer will fail.

I didnt know that about disconnecting the phone safely. Though this disapearing on the disconnect icon also started happening at the same time, so it could be raleted somehow? Also I have applied full unlock to the phone, if thats what you meant?
Connecting with pin-code on does not seem to help. It is even possible that I need to reboot every other time to get connection, I havent investigated enough. I will look in to this over the weekend to get full picture whats going on here. I have a possibility test with other laptop, that does not have anything extra in it, just running W8.1 with regular drivers, so I will also test with that to get the SDK out of the picture.
I will report back.
Im glad this isnt such a big deal anymore, back in the WM days this would hve been a major pita.

It is not every other time. After I booted now I have connected/disconnected many times in a row. Same behaviour on the other system. Also on that laptop the disconnect device icon disapears. Whatever is causing this, its all on the phone side.

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It is not every other time. After I booted now I have connected/disconnected many times in a row. Same behaviour on the other system. Also on that laptop the disconnect device icon disapears. Whatever is causing this, its all on the phone side.
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Do you have Full FS Access turned on?

-W_O_L_F- said:
Do you have Full FS Access turned on?
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Yes, I did all unlocks possible.

Loco5150 said:
Yes, I did all unlocks possible.
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Try to turn it off. It's unstable.

-W_O_L_F- said:
Try to turn it off. It's unstable.
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It happened to me,too. I have a computer using Intel Core i3 and another powered by an old intel CPU.
on the i3 one, the phone appears as soon as i plug it in but on the old one, it takes a long time for the phone to appear..
AND on my Surface RT, it didn't appear even after 5 hours...

I didnt know what I was talking about, I didnt have FS access.. I did all interop unlocks only, I didnt have FS turned on. After turning it on, the phone is recognized by the computer and the disconnect icon appears, but its not seen by file explorer.

Im still experiencing these problems.

Seems that every morning I have to boot the device to get connected. After that I can connect the device as many times as I want.