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My Hermes doesn't do any sound until I connect headphones.
Is there any way to find out where's the problem?

pajousek said:
My Hermes doesn't do any sound until I connect headphones.
Is there any way to find out where's the problem?
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Hi
There are lots of threads dealing with thisproblem.
The first thing to do is ruleout a software fault. Do a hard reset. (use a full backup program like SPB backup first if you want to avoid losing all your installations and settings).
If the problem remains then you may have "contact" problems with the front earpiece speaker. (Not sure if you are getting sound from the rear loudspeaker?). Anyway here's just a couple of existing threads that describe the fixable problems with both speakers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2001027&postcount=5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288728
One other less likely but possible problem might lie with the USB port. (However I feel it's more likely a speaker issue).
Mike
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2001027&postcount=5

I'm afraid of breaking the VOID stick.
But it's HW problem with the front speaker.

pajousek said:
I'm afraid of breaking the VOID stick.
But it's HW problem with the front speaker.
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Well yes, if you have a warranty that you can use then do not break that sticker! It crumbles into bits very easily and they'd know you'd been inside even if you can get it off in one piece.
Mike

Ok ... now i connected Herm to USB and sound works. o__O so what's wrong with it? ((
i know I'm maybe acting little dumb

pajousek said:
Ok ... now i connected Herm to USB and sound works. o__O so what's wrong with it? ((
i know I'm maybe acting little dumb
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Well if you look at the last line in my first post above, you'll see that a fault could lie with the USB port. This is because the USB port is linked to a switching circuit to divert sound from internal speaker to a headset. If that is damaged then sound may not be reconnected when the headset or any USB plug is removed.
So is it now working or does it only work with a USB cable plugged in?
Mike

I unplugged, it worked. Then I did softreset and now it doesn't work even if I connect it to USB.

pajousek said:
I unplugged, it worked. Then I did softreset and now it doesn't work even if I connect it to USB.
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OK two things to try.
Visually inspect the inside of the USB housing. It's very small but is there any sign of the fine wire contacts being bent or crossed over? The best you can do to solve this is to use a pin and straighten any that are out of line.
If that looks fine then I think we just need to rule out a software issue. Unfortunately that means a hard reset. Hopefully you have full backup software, if not you will lose anything you have installed and settings you have made.
After a hard reset you ust try the sound BEFORE restoring any backup you have made.
There is a small chance that repeatedly inserting and removing a USB plug will sort the problem - but it's by no means certain. It's perhaps something to try first. Also try wiggling it a little. If it's a slightly bent contact it may straighten it. If it's a broken board contact it will not sort it (long term at any rate)
Mike

I have done hardreset, but it did not help. Wiggling and reconnection too.
Housing looks fine, but i'll check it out in the morning.
So maybe it's really a mainboard issue? (

I woke up and I got an idea. Is it possible to make app, that would DISABLE headphones and point all audio to speakers?

hello, i seem to have the same issue.. i have tried all thwe things above... not working.. i can only assume the phone is broken inside!
although sometimes it comes on.. randomly.. i can only think that there is a broken connection to the built in speakers.
i'll keep following

ardley216 said:
hello, i seem to have the same issue.. i have tried all thwe things above... not working.. i can only assume the phone is broken inside!
although sometimes it comes on.. randomly.. i can only think that there is a broken connection to the built in speakers.
i'll keep following
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Have you dismantled and checked those connectors or have you just done the hard reset etc?
The most common problems are the reare speaker push on connector has slipped off, or if it's the front speaker the contacts need tweaking out a little.
Mike

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XDA Atom thinks earhones are plugged in

My Atom thinks the earphones are plugged in when they aren't.
If I answer the phone, no sound, presumably because it thinks the earphones are plugged in and is trying to use those.
Activating the start menu or media player has no sound.
The FM Radio starts (which will only happen if it thinks the earphones are plugged in).
But they are not plugged in.
I am currently on ROM 20060426B1WWE.
The same thing happened on ROM 20060105B1WWE, the first ROM I upgraded to.
I know what you're going to say, that there is a hardware fault, either with the earphone connector or the speakers simply don't work.
Firstly, the speakers do still work. If I start the FM radio and set the little button at bottom left to use the speakers as well, they work.
As for the earphone connector, when I had the problem on the 0105B1 ROM, I could fix the problem by performing a hard reset. Sadly this doesn't fix the problem with the latest ROM, but I'm pretty sure that a hard reset doesn't fully reset the device's configuration.
So I'm pretty sure this is not a hardware issue. I think the OS keeps track of whether the earphones are plugged in, and this has got out of sync somehow.
The last time it happened, I did the following:
While I was playing an mp3 and listening with the earphones, I pulled out the connector and the speakers did not start to play as I think they should have. Now, as I said above, it thinks the earphones are connected all of the time.
Anyone seen anything similar, or have an idea of what I can do? I rang O2 and while they admit it is probably a s/w problem, they want me to send the Atom to them. I don't want to be without it for a week or so because it is my phone and I rely on it. So I thought I'd try here.
Thanks,
invisible earphone...
Hey Peter
I've got the exact same issue once...
But the problem i found for mine was that SOMEHOW when I plug out the headset jack, the slightly retarded Atom thinks I have not..
Just plug in the headset again and pull it out slowly... Then try out the phone if its back to normal...
It seems that the Atom is slow in picking up the disconnected headset...
Hope it works for you as it did for me...
Good Luck
Invisible earphones
Hi bulletproof_78,
Thanks a lot for the reply.
I have just tried it and no luck. I pulled the earphones out very slowly.
I think this is one of the biggest problems with any style of MS Windows. They want to cache everything for the sake of performance, and the cache gets out of sync with the thing it's caching. In this case I bet it tries to keep track of the earphone state internally. But if it misses an event like unplugging them, the internal state is different from the thing it is trying to cache.
Anyway, down off the soapbox.
I'll keep in mind what you said, and try it a few times over the next few days.
I might end up having to send it to O2 (all the way up to @#$%^! Queensland) so they can lose it, or replace it with some questionable one that they haven't fixed properly, or god knows what else.
Anyway, thanks again.
Atom thinks earphones plugged in
For anyone listening out there, the problem has gone away.
I don't really know why.
The only thing I did out of the usual was to turn Bluetooth on. The timing was perfect for me to think that this is what must have fixed the problem.
Do you think that might have fixed it? No I don't either.
And I'm reluctant to try to get it back into that state to see if this fixes it because I'm not that confident that this has fixed it.
I sure hope someone else has this problem and O2 or Microsoft hear about it.
I had the exact same problem you did. I fixed mine by very gently running a paperclip around the inside of the audio jack. Problem Solved!!!
I had the exact same problem you did. I fixed mine by very gently running a paperclip around the inside of the audio jack. Problem Solved!!!
hi guys i faced the same problem last week and i had to get it reparied from the repair shop and they informed me that the jack it not working properly and they will replace it with other jack which is used in sonyerricson cell phones as it is the same. I have got it done and now i have no problem.
Please try this method at the last.
Thanks Novice Boy
i tried the paper clip idea and it worked.
About 5mm inside the earphone jack, on the side closest to the USB port, you can feel a small 'bump' (lets call it the g-spot!) as you run over it with the paper clip. Do this with an MP3 playing or something and voila.....the music comes out of the speaker again and the phone rings, i can talk to people again. Seems there is a fault in recognising whether the earpiece is plugged in or out as many have suggested.
MT
Thanks Novice Boy
i tried the paper clip idea and it worked.
About 5mm inside the earphone jack, on the side closest to the USB port, you can feel a small 'bump' (lets call it the g-spot!) as you run over it with the paper clip. Do this with an MP3 playing or something and voila.....the music comes out of the speaker again and the phone rings, i can talk to people again. Seems there is a fault in recognising whether the earpiece is plugged in or out as many have suggested.
MT
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Even a tooth pick would do :shock: Have not been using my FM radio but decided to try and got this problem! Was carful not to "short" anything inside so used a toothpick and it worked :lol:
Hi, mine is doing exactly the same thing and did intermittently for a while. Now I cannot get phone audio at all! I have even tried flashing the ROM and still nothing. Works perfectly with portable hands free. Do you think the audio plug is shot? Thanks.
awesome!!!
the paper clip trick really work!!! thanks Novice boy !!
I had this problem too, thanks to you guys and now its fixed.
Worked for me too..
Ok...This toothpic thing really works..
But I cant believe that after paying so much...I am encountering problems like these..
Anyone has any idea if the problem is solved for good or now we need to carry a toothpic too with a stylus...
Even mine problem got resolved automatically. I faced it 2 weeks back.
I tried re inserting the Headphone slowly and removingit and everything came back to normal
hey ive also had this problem...the only thing is that my phone doesnt think it has the headset plugged in because when i open the FM radio it says insert headset...it works when the headset is in and when its on speaker phone but other than that i cannot hear the person...i dropped my phone and this happened....i tried all the methods mentioned but its not fixing the problem...im guessing it could be hardware but the speaker and everything still works except for when your in a call...any ideas?
same prob due to wrong adaptor
i have the same problem. it's like the earphone jack is stuck because the fm radio works even without the earphones. sometimes this registry setting works sometimes it does not let me know if it works for you/anybody...
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\State\Hardware]
"Headset"=dword:00000000
even i had this problem in my atom exec a few weeks back sorry i saw this now and for a pemanent solution for it is dont put anything inside just apply very little coconut oil on the handsfree connecter and then connect it to ur phone and keep removing and reinserting it for a couple of times and it will work for sure this happens due to dust or some particles getting stuck between those connectors not allowing the mechanism to work correctly hope it helps beacuse toothpick trick works fine but its temp and reoccur
t.stratus said:
even i had this problem in my atom exec a few weeks back sorry i saw this now and for a pemanent solution for it is dont put anything inside just apply very little coconut oil on the handsfree connecter and then connect it to ur phone and keep removing and reinserting it for a couple of times and it will work for sure this happens due to dust or some particles getting stuck between those connectors not allowing the mechanism to work correctly hope it helps beacuse toothpick trick works fine but its temp and reoccur
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I have the same problem and was very sad until trying the toothpic trick, even thought If I hit my pocket the problem returns, so I will try your recomendation, thanks!
Is there a hardware repair procedure, so maybe this part can be removed and replaced?
Yes it is a hardware problem. The headphone socket is faulty.
I've a HP 6828 - which is identical to Atom. I had this problem also.
Pls check this thread how to solve it yourself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421982
same problem goes to me to.. at first i'm quite shocked..there might be something damaged..then i insert a tooth pick (scared if i use paperclip could short the electrical terminal inside..) into the earphone jack.hoping a miracle to happen, then few moments, my atom back to normal..

Replace Microphone

Anyone know how to replace the mic on the 8525? It looks like its soldered on to the mobo...
hgarcia85 said:
Anyone know how to replace the mic on the 8525? It looks like its soldered on to the mobo...
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not sure, but is ur mic not working? mine doesnt work unless i plug in the usb charger and pull it back while im talking. pain in the arse. but i might have to get a new one too so let me know how it goes. bump
robbie600 said:
not sure, but is ur mic not working? mine doesnt work unless i plug in the usb charger and pull it back while im talking. pain in the arse. but i might have to get a new one too so let me know how it goes. bump
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I have the same problem with my hermes, If I move the usb connector I can hear well, but I am thinking to open it to see the mic and usb connection.
Any idea?
It doesn't look like it needs to be soldered on?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Y099-Int-mic-mi...ZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem
If you look at the fourth pic on this page, under the black rubber (circled) is where the mic is located
http://inuchanbt.blog54.fc2.com/blog-entry-100.html
pedro2k said:
It doesn't look like it needs to be soldered on?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Y099-Int-mic-mi...ZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem
If you look at the fourth pic on this page, under the black rubber (circled) is where the mic is located
http://inuchanbt.blog54.fc2.com/blog-entry-100.html
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Thanks for information, I am going to open it and we will see...
nadivar said:
Thanks for information, I am going to open it and we will see...
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I have opened two times the hermes, but the problem continue,
I have see that the connector usb, has any problem, because, when the micro doesn´t work I press on the left side of usb conection (in hermes) and the micro works perfect, if press on the right side of usb, another time the micro doesn´t work.... I didn´t see anything in the connetor, under my point of view.
Anybody knows which is the connections of usb hermes (11 pinouts)?, because the problem could be the pin out than silent the micro....
The microfone is stick to the main board, I don´t know if I can separated easily or which is the system to do it...
Please help me....

Loose Connector on Phone - Need help

Hi,
The connector on my touch (mini usb port) has somehow gotten loose or something. Everytime I connect the phone to charge or sync......the slightest touch/movement throws it off. I know there may not be much I can do right now except maybe replace the motherboard or something. Just needed some info if tht is indeed the way to go....or is there some other solution or a fix that any of the geniuses here can help me out with
Thanks in advance
Hi... apparently this does happen quite often with this connectors but it doesn't necessarely mean that that connector is overall loose.
Try to check if this might be your case.... On some devices I've noticed that the metal strips within the connector (in the phone, top part of the connector usually) looses away from its original position, if its not broken you may be able to unbend it and restore it to the original position with a thin pin or something of that sort. This will make things work again.
To prevent this from keep happening just be carefull when you plug/unplug your cables into it. Be gentle when inserting the cable and make sure to put the pressure to insert it only when its in the exact position.
hope this helps... good luck
[email protected] said:
...The connector on my touch (mini usb port) has somehow gotten loose or something. ...
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I thought I had this problem, but it turned out to be a faulty USB cable - I think the wires were loose where they joined the connector. Since changing the cable I've had no problems.

Weird Speakerphone Problem

Speakerphone comes on about 2 seconds after phone connects.
I had the problem where my dpad was not working properly and i was getting white screen but followed instructions in another thread and now those problems are fixed. I thought it might be related but it appears to be unrelated.
I installed the "speakerphone" application thinking it might have the option to reset screwed up registry settings. No change, although its a program with some interesting spy applications.
I searched for hours about settings or hardware problems with no meaningful results
The rom and radio has been the same for about a year and they are rom vp3g
and radio 1.54.30.10
Any help would be appreciated.
Well if no one knows it must be hardware, anybody have any ideas
firepro said:
Well if no one knows it must be hardware, anybody have any ideas
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I wish I was posting a helpful reply. Sadly not.
To be honest I would have thought a software issue. However I assume you have tried a hard reset and it persists.
I cannot think what hardware issueit might be that would re-route from front to rear speaker. The only possibility I can think of is a fault at the USB connector (It being involved with routing sound to headphones etc. So just a thought of perhaps bent pins in the socket or worse, faulty connections to the board.
Mike

Vibrant T959 Only Turns On With Charger Connected

I have a Samsung Vibrant T959 TMobile US with 2.1-update1, Baseband T959UVJI6.
The battery is fully charged, it registers in the phone as fully charged 100%, but when I hit the power button I get a progess wheel that gets stuck, then the phone just turns off. It never gets passed that wheel, it only displays for a second then dies.
However, when I plug in the USB and hit the power button, it comes right up like it should. Then I can unplug the usb and use the phone just fine. Its almost as if I need to jump-start the phone with a power source.
I have reset the phone, even re-flashed the stock firmware using Odin. Same results. I have even swapped batteries with a buddy just to see if that was the case, but I still got the same results.
Any advice or suggestions is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks Very Much In Advance!
Anybody? Any ideas?
Well, that is new to me...
I'll preface with, I have no clue how/why that is happening. But, this is what I would do:
1 - If really opposed to rooting, I'd call T-Mo / Samsung and get a replacement.
2 - If I liked my phone and wanted to make it better, I'd root it and flash a custom ROM. It likely would take care of the issue, as it clearly is not a hardware thing (well, I say clearly).
Worst case with #2, ODIN back to stock and then do option 1.
possible solution
also it says "USB connected" even when cable is unplugged? I had similar problem.. I tried everything, flashing, changing batteries.. none of that was useful. Then I find some post on some forum that says it might be corrosion, so i scratched my USB with thin wire and everything worked fine, but also scratching USB I was doing one more thing. In my opinion, I think that it's not corrosion. I think that USB is slightly bent (middle part of it), try to bent it in other direction, possible that it's too close to edge. That solved my problem. Tell me if this helpful for you, sorry about my english
we87 said:
Anybody? Any ideas?
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did you ever figure out? im in the same boat...
admirh said:
also it says "USB connected" even when cable is unplugged? I had similar problem.. I tried everything, flashing, changing batteries.. none of that was useful. Then I find some post on some forum that says it might be corrosion, so i scratched my USB with thin wire and everything worked fine, but also scratching USB I was doing one more thing. In my opinion, I think that it's not corrosion. I think that USB is slightly bent (middle part of it), try to bent it in other direction, possible that it's too close to edge. That solved my problem. Tell me if this helpful for you, sorry about my english
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i think i can get what you are saying, cleaning the usb port on the phone right??
BUT how does this affect turning the phone on?? if usb port is rusty, it will only affect charging, not turning the power on?
I experienced this identical issue last fall -- the USB would always say it was connected, wouldn't startup unless connected to actual USB, but otherwise worked fine.
Take your phone apart and look at the solder joints on your microUSB port... mine all had cracks in them or had broken free. I re-flowed the solder while holding the port down and it resolved my issues. (put on some flux, and run a hot soldering iron across the joints, clean up... it's not very difficult. just be sure you don't short out any of the pins.) I also added additional solder to the four points that just hold the mircoUSB to the circuit board. It's been rock solid since
Rahhstah said:
I experienced this identical issue last fall -- the USB would always say it was connected, wouldn't startup unless connected to actual USB, but otherwise worked fine.
Take your phone apart and look at the solder joints on your microUSB port... mine all had cracks in them or had broken free. I re-flowed the solder while holding the port down and it resolved my issues. (put on some flux, and run a hot soldering iron across the joints, clean up... it's not very difficult. just be sure you don't short out any of the pins.) I also added additional solder to the four points that just hold the mircoUSB to the circuit board. It's been rock solid since
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that sounds very difficult actually.. as I dont own any of the tools
anywhere cheap to recommend?
lazi punk said:
that sounds very difficult actually.. as I dont own any of the tools
anywhere cheap to recommend?
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See if there is a TV or electronic repair place still in business in your area. Or post an ad on CL asking someone with knowledge and skill to do it. Be careful they aren't an idiot just wanting 20 bucks and happen to own a soldering iron.
lazi punk said:
that sounds very difficult actually.. as I dont own any of the tools
anywhere cheap to recommend?
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you could see if Cell Phone Repair/ is near you and describe to them what you want to do.
I would go through these guys they are top notch helped me when i soft bricked my wife's phone. He even convinced me that i could fix it myself when i was ready to send it to them for a jtag.
They can replace the usb plug if thats the issue.
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-vibrant/
I would test to see if my battery is bad first before i went about resoldering, it could easily be a bad battery.
Xdogg said:
I would go through these guys they are top notch helped me when i soft bricked my wife's phone. He even convinced me that i could fix it myself when i was ready to send it to them for a jtag.
They can replace the usb plug if thats the issue.
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-vibrant/
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thank you for the response. I definitely think the usb port is an issue. what is a jtag? haha
ferhanmm said:
I would test to see if my battery is bad first before i went about resoldering, it could easily be a bad battery.
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No my stock battery is charging and i did buy a separate battery. same issue.

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