While I try to enable the RSAP on the phone I get the waiting cusrsor on the phone and nothing happens to the phone, its just not activated.
The VW Tiguan does not support anything else than RSAP for its bluetooth kit so I cant use the phone in the car. If the RSAP is not enabled the cellphone is recognized by the car but not pairing as not compatible since the RSAP is not working on the phone.
Hi,
I'm not such an expert but I had a problem with syncronizing my polaris with an alpine bluetooth module and i found a little piece of software called jetware. it solved all my problems. It's available for purchase and it has a trial period.
Hope it helps you
I have read that jetware doen not solve the problem, I might try it but it would be great if I had a tested solution. Thanks for the advice though, I am gonna try to find jetware and test it.
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Hi
I wondered if anyone had successfully used the Sim Access Profile capabilkity of the of TyTn to connect with a Bluetooth car kit. I'm trying to get the connection going with a Merc. car kit, but I can't get them to pair.
Thx
Hi petes, I have an slk 55 amg with command and bluetooth. The bluetooth in the command system does not work for pairing with a phone. Even though it says it has bluetooth. To use bluetooth you need an extra module.
Hope this helps...
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r17...y-arrived-but.html?highlight=bluetooth+module
http://www.wireless4mb.com/phones.html
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r17...pic-seems-kit.html?highlight=bluetooth+module
Hi Dale
Thanks. I actually already have the module - the european version of the module is different to the US one in that it uses Sim Access Profile, rather than just acting as a headset. The TyTn says is supports SAP, but I just can't make it work - wondering if anyone's actually got SAP working.
pete S
Hi Petes,
I also have an Mercedes-Benz with the european bluetooth module. But I have a Qtek 9100 updated to AKU2 (Which is supposed to support SAP), but no luck at all. Actually the module can not even identify my phone and display it at the search screen of the comand screen. I tried also with a NOKIA 6230i (SAP Compatible phone) which actually I was able to see at the search list of the comand screen which means that the module is working with SAP compatible phones. What I will do next, is to try again with the new firmware I installed to my 9100 (T-Mobiles 2.21 Version) which has a SAP application for bluetooth (Something like SAP Server).
I can not do it yet because I am abroad and I will be back again 1st of September. I will let you know the results ASAP.
If you have any news from your site with TyTn please let me know because I was intending to change my 9100 to TyTn just for the SAP functionality.
Hi Barsam
The reason you can't find the 9100 when you search with the BT module is that it only looks for devices which identify themselves as Phones. The TyTn (and no doubt the 9100) identify themselves as Pocket PCs and so the (stupid!) Mercedes kit ignores them. The good news is that you can hack the registry to tell the Bluetooth stack that it's a phone. The bad news is that you can't pair with it. Getting it into the search screen doesn't mean it supports SAP - I could see my old T68 just when I was testing. Could you actually pair with the 6230i - i.e. when you see it in the list select Call?
When you're back, PM me and I'll send you the hack.
To tell you the truth I didn't try to pair the 6230i, but it's one of the phones that mercedes have tested on the bluetooth module. If I don't manage to do it with the 9100 I may get a 6230i. At least I can use the one that my brother has to test it and even copy my contacts to comand. Have you tried the hack with the TyTn? Can you tell me what is the the registry set to do that?
Where did you find out that the bluetooth module ignores enything elese than phones?
Make the following registry change
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\SYS]
"COD"=dword:52020C
On your own head etc.. Keep a copy of the current value of course. Then do a soft reset. You'll then see it as a phone. I've tried this, and can now see the phone, but can't pair. I've had a mail back from HTC that they're aware of some problem with the SAP and are working on it.
I wish a nice car kit would be released in the USA that supports SAP/850 & 1900/ external aerial...
hello,
i'm trying to get my TyTN working with my Meceder Command too... does anyone tried the English ROM-Update? Someone wrote that he can use it's TyTN with his Audi after updating the ROM. And tha Audi-MMI-System works also with SAP... perhpas after the ROM-Update it works with Mecedes Command System too...
I haven't tried it yet - I've been waiting for the TyTn update to come along, but nothing from HTC yet. If I don't get anything soon, I'll switch over to the iMate ROM and report back.
I have used a nokia 6233 6280 onmy E55 2005 with B/t Module
The mercedes module in conjuntion with the command system is problimatic, hoever I think I have another peice of the puzzle. With both the above phones they only worked using Vodaphone 3g cards Three 3g cards paired using SAP however could not get recieption....Mercedes say (there guessing) its the way the sim card is configured.....
Mercedes BT
I have a TYTN on order and Im desperate to find a solution to the issue before it arrives.....
As a follow on to my last post ...basically what I THINK found out was if the sim card was configured to work only on a 3G phone..(some networks do this so that they cannot be put in a 2.5g phone and constantly roam on).....then it would pair with the Bluetooth module in Mercedes however never get recieption.
I tried this on several phones including 6233 6280 N80 E61.....just to name a few....ALL PAIRED....however If I put a Vodaofone 3g Card in then IT worked .....IF i put a Three 3G card in it didnt.....BUMMER CAUSE I'm with THREE.....
I hope this helps in some way and Im more than happy to be corrected however these are my first hand expeirnces....I WANT TO USED THE TYTN in my MErc so Im keen to help in amy way....I have unlimited access to phones...so if anyone has any other suggestions Im happy to give it a go....
Mark
At the moment, you'll find that by default the merc kit won't even see the Tytn (it's a pocket pc, not a phone as far as Bluetooth is concerned). You can hack the registry to change this, but then the phone will be seen, but pairing will fail. Hopefully, the forthcoming firmware update will fix this - I've had mail back from HTC support to suggest they know there are problems with the SAP support.
Mercedes BT
Is there anyone who had paired Nokia phones with Mercedes BT(euro spec) successfully? I had tried for several Nokia phones (6230i/6270/6280) to pair with BT ,all failed. I can just find the 16-digit PIN on Comand, no phone appears on Comand. Phone & Comand can't find each other. Do I have to set other setting except the "bluetooth setting" for mobile phone? Even I try to "search for audio enhancements" and 'find no devices' at all .
Thanks Petes,
Did they give any idea on time frames?...Did you have any thoughts about my experience with the different sim cards....
Mark
I am considering buying the HTC TyTN and the Merc Bluetooth module so I am very keen to know if anyone can get this working.
Thanks,
Ady
Nope - no news on timescales I'm afraid - just waiting for the firmware update from HTC. I'm reluctant to try the iMate firmware at the moment - until there's an HTC to go back to in case something goes awry. Has anyone had a chance to try SAP with either of the newer firmwares (iMate or Dopod) - might give us a good clue if the HTC one's going to work.
I've connected my 6230i easily enough, just remember to allow "auto connect without confirmation" on the phone after entering the 16 digit code
I have tried my HW6915 pocket pc but like the other PPC's it is not recognised
A reply I got from HTC support on 21/09/2006 asking about the Merc SAP problem was:
At present the TyTN is only compatable with a limited number of kits. A ROM update will be released shortly to update this.
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So fingers crossed that it will be soon and solve the problem.
I asked them the same thing a while ago and just checked back in on availability. Just got ...
"At present the HTC ROM for the TyTN is being written and tested and we expect it to be released in the very near future."
So, patience is a virtue I hear....
Greetings,
I have been seaching the forum and have not found any help regarding the problem I have with my car kit.
The kit works fine with the PPC using RSAP but I am not able to synchronise the Phone contacts with the car kit. Only the SIM contacts.
Is there any solution for this problem?
I have tried the "JETware Hands Free profile" mencioned somewhere in the forum, but it didn't solve the problem.
Hope someone can help me.
Best regards
The rsap feature can only supply the information of the sim card to the car kit. rsap = remote sim access profile
Therefore you cannot sync other contacts unless the phone tries to push these information along with the sim information. It is reported that some phones do, but I hardly think this is possible.
On the other hand the vw passat has a limited capacity of saved numbers, so you won't ever get all contacts in the car's phone book.
Beside this, have you updated the trinity to wm6?? Is there any change in the rsap behavior ??
hi.. i hve a skoda, octavia 2, it has factory installed bluetooth car kit, i can easily connect my Herms , but it keeps disconnecting and reconnecting every few minutes, I tried to upgared to WM6 and its same, I cange my bluetooth control unit at Skoda , and its same. the car kit works fine on any other phones like Nokia or SE. the problem is only with HTC devices. any idea ?
not a single reply !!!
This is a common problem with the TyTn, there are plenty of other threads here with exactly the same problem. I have a Parrot C3000 Evolution car kit and am using a LVSW WM6 ROM (see sig) which works most of the time (better than other ROMs in my experience) - although I experience the following all the time;
Bluetooth turns itself off (on the TyTn)
Bluetooth is on, but the phone won't connect to the car kit
Connection to the car kit gets lost after making a call
Connection to the car kit gets lost when dialling a number
In most cases going to connection manager and turning bluetooth off then on usually works, sometimes (rarely) I have to soft reset the phone and once in a while I have to soft reset the phone and the car(!). When it does all connect it works very well, I also use MS Voice Command and with the various fixes applied I get announcements, voice dialing etc. all working perfectly.
My problems with bluetooth are limited to the car kit though, I also have a TomTom bluetooth GPS dongle which works perfect all the time.
thanks forza
thanks a lot, at least I don't feel lonley with my problem.
i found this, which works great with my car kit.
www.jetwaremobile.com it costs, but there is a 30 day trial to see if it will work with your car kit.
m15chief said:
i found this, which works great with my car kit.
www.jetwaremobile.com it costs, but there is a 30 day trial to see if it will work with your car kit.
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can you please advise how to setup the jetware ??
forza said:
This is a common problem with the TyTn, there are plenty of other threads here with exactly the same problem. I have a Parrot C3000 Evolution car kit and am using a LVSW WM6 ROM (see sig) which works most of the time (better than other ROMs in my experience) - although I experience the following all the time;
Bluetooth turns itself off (on the TyTn)
Bluetooth is on, but the phone won't connect to the car kit
Connection to the car kit gets lost after making a call
Connection to the car kit gets lost when dialling a number
In most cases going to connection manager and turning bluetooth off then on usually works, sometimes (rarely) I have to soft reset the phone and once in a while I have to soft reset the phone and the car(!). When it does all connect it works very well, I also use MS Voice Command and with the various fixes applied I get announcements, voice dialing etc. all working perfectly.
My problems with bluetooth are limited to the car kit though, I also have a TomTom bluetooth GPS dongle which works perfect all the time.
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I have found that my 3200LS Color works great as long as I have unlocked my phone BEFORE turning ignition on. Have you updated your Parot firmware to latest version?
timbouk said:
I have found that my 3200LS Color works great as long as I have unlocked my phone BEFORE turning ignition on. Have you updated your Parot firmware to latest version?
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Firmware is the latest version for my device, but will try unlocking as you suggest and see how that goes, thanks for the tip.
parrot ck3100 and spv m3100 with wm6 dutty v2... it works perfect... i had black 3.0.1... it all went well untill a call in or out was made... but with dutty v2 it is al perfect... i am amezed myself when i see all the problems others have...
Has anyone had any problems pairing their X1 with any Nissan or Inifniti cars? There seem to be some mumblings on the web about their cars and WM6 devices and I've had no luck getting it to work on my '08 G35. Thanks.
bluetooth pairing
i just checked the aproved phone list for your g35 and the x1 is not aproved by infiniti. only certain phones will link to our cars others will not
I have an 08 G35 and have no prob. pairing it with my car. How are you pairing this up with the car?
it also depend if you both have navagation or not
elee888 said:
I have an 08 G35 and have no prob. pairing it with my car. How are you pairing this up with the car?
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I don't have the navigation so I just click the phone button, tell it I want to pair a new device, and have my X1 start searching. At least now I know it can be done. Thanks for the reply
Well... I do have the navigation. So maybe the pairing process is a little different. But it should work though, it even allows me to download the whole phonebook into the car. Something my other phones in the past did not allow me.
baashha said:
Managed to solve this now.
Of course both Merc & SE didn't have any good solutions.... so had to continue googling & XDA-ing... This is what I did:
i.) Jetware, as I posted earlier has been removed.
ii.) I still had the SAP Profile addition downloaded from one of the forums in XDA on.
iii.) Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys\COD
the default is 5898764 (Decimal) which is "Telephone (Smartphone)" which you would think would work. Changed to 5374476 (Decimal) which is a normal phone.
iv.) Restarted the phone.
v.) Started the pairing process from the car - failed as per before.
vi.) Started the pairing from the phone, and they work!!
Now, they pair automatically as how they would before....
Ram
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this is how i got mine working with my pioneer deck.
here's the link to the SAP Profile he was talking about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=997872&postcount=166
hope this works for you.
which PIoneer do you have?
I have the DEH-P5900IB and a BT adapter, and i can't get my X1 connect.
All my previous phones worked fine.
it looks like the X1 won't let me pair without passcode, and the radio says Error.
Do you mind explaining exactly how you did it?
Thanks
i have the DEH-790BT.
what i did was after i changed what i mentioned above, then i set my deck to be able to be noticed by other bluetooth devices, then added it through my X1. After I added it through my phone it said successfully connected on my deck and the phone displayed it connected as wireless stereo and hands free. now the only weird thing was it was trying to connect as both the wireless stereo and hands free which seemed to mess with the deck, so I had to turn off my ignition and turn my car back on for it to actually recognize the connection fully. oh and the passcode if you connect through the deck to phone like I did it should be default '0000' but i would check your manual just to be safe, and if your connecting through your phone to the deck (which i haven't tested so I don't know if it works) you can pick your own passcode, which i suggest just making 0000 or nothing.
I have a problem also with my HTC Touch HD (Blackstone)
I can pair with my Nissan Qashqai carkit but soun dis very bad, and the caller on the otherside doesn;t hear anything.
Strangly, but try, when during a call i switch from carkit to phone and back (using the options in my carkit/buttons on stearing wheel) everything is fine!
Checking the internet learned me that this is related to the bluetooth stack (or settings) in WM6.1 (and 6.5 also)
So does anybody have any idea how to solve this, maybe by registry changes or maybe by even "downgrading" the Bluetoorh stack to 6.0 or maybe even 5.x.
Maybe it is also possible to replace the complete MS stack for an other stack?
My Imagio won't pair with the factory hands-free Bluetooth in my 2010 Nissan Frontier. Everything goes fine until I enter the requested PIN, at which point the Frontier tells me "invalid PIN". I'm entering the correct sequence.
The phone pairs ok with our 2007 Nissan Altima, and paired mostly-ok with my prior 2007 Nissan Sentra, other than the annoying but tolerable delayed hang-up problem that has been documented by others.
Our LG phones pair fine with the Frontier.
HTC tells me it is a Nissan problem. I was able to talk with a Nissan Bluetooth specialist who told me my phone has not yet been tested for compatibility (nor had the LG's that pair ok) and "probably is not compatible". Finger pointing both ways.
The phone pairs ok with the Altima and other hands-free devices.
I think it is related to the Imagio Bluetooth stack implementation coupled with a not-totally-compliant Nissan interface. I suspect that the phone is sending the PIN data in some format that the Frontier doesn't interpret correctly.
Does anyone have any suggestions for diagnosing this or making it work? Maybe some sort of packet/frame monitor for Bluetooth that would let me view the data packets being exchanged?
Can the Imagio Bluetooth stack be replaced by one that is more compatible?
I'd really like to get this working...
Thanks,
Steve