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Default input methods question

Is there a way of defining some programs to use a particular input method by default? Say, I always want Word to use the transcriber, but PIE to use the keyboard.
Thanks,
John

jko said:
Is there a way of defining some programs to use a particular input method by default? Say, I always want Word to use the transcriber, but PIE to use the keyboard.
Thanks,
John
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I know there is way to enable/disable an input method and how to make one input method as default.. but don't know how to set a specific input method for particular program.. :roll:
I am using 838 TC version with 4 different chinese input method.. but none of it are english by default.. I have to toggle between ChongKit and English keyboard. Is there a way to install a purely english input to my 838? Hope someone could help out.
*******************************************************
Enable/Disable InputMethod
[HKCR\CSID\{CSID}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"= 1, for Enable
"Default"= 1, for Disable
手寫板 - {124D7CDC-CF2D-418F-8BB4-4395AD048B79}
全螢慕手寫 - {5AAFAF99-8D99-4466-A66D-95C44B608A84}
注音 - {E18BFD41-BEB8-11D1-8F9F-00AA00B58D45}
倉頡 - {E18BFD44-DF36-11D1-90DD-0000F81E0CE9}
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Change Default InputMethod
[HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip]
"DefaultIm" = {CSID}
手寫板 - {124D7CDC-CF2D-418F-8BB4-4395AD048B79}
全螢慕手寫 - {5AAFAF99-8D99-4466-A66D-95C44B608A84}
注音 - {E18BFD41-BEB8-11D1-8F9F-00AA00B58D45}
倉頡 - {E18BFD44-DF36-11D1-90DD-0000F81E0CE9}

I would be happy to just know how to stop the on screen keyboard from popping up unless i hit the icon.

Please Help Me with my Error Keyboard for O2 Trion

Hi guyz
Is there anyone out there know how to fix my keyboard problem? Please Help Me. I bought my O2 Trion From HK and they have reflash the firmware with HTC firmware which is meant for QWERTY keyboard layout but my keyboard layout is QWERTZ. It works fine when i bought it and now after i hard reset it my "Z" button become "Y" and my "Y' button become "Z".
thanks guyz for helping me

Saint said:
Hi guyz
Is there anyone out there know how to fix my keyboard problem? Please Help Me. I bought my O2 Trion From HK and they have reflash the firmware with HTC firmware which is meant for QWERTY keyboard layout but my keyboard layout is QWERTZ. It works fine when i bought it and now after i hard reset it my "Z" button become "Y" and my "Y' button become "Z".
thanks guyz for helping me
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Have you tried registry changes?
UK/US layout (QWERTY):
HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\Locale = 1033 (DWORD decimal)
German layout (QWERTZ):
HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\Locale = 1031 (DWORD decimal)
French layout (AZERTY):
HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\Locale = 1036 (DWORD decimal)
EDIT: WORKS FOR MANY WM5 DEVICES BUT NOT HERMES (SEE FOLLOWING POSTS)
Mike

Hi Mike
Thanks for your help but i am new in this area can u please tell me how to change the registry please.
thanks once again for your help
i really appreciate it

Saint said:
Hi Mike
Thanks for your help but i am new in this area can u please tell me how to change the registry please.
thanks once again for your help
i really appreciate it
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Well you need a registry editor this one is free PHM:
http://pocketland.de/util/getdownload.php?regedit.Mrln_ARM.cab&id=22357
Download to your desktop (do not open it) and then move it to your Device using active sync. In active sync use the explore tab to open up your device. If you have a storage card go there and drag and drop the file onto storage card. If not put it in device main memory.
That done disconnect from PC and use file explorer to hunt for the file and tap it to run it. If offered a choice choose install to Storage Card. If not main memory. Once installed go to your programmes and open PHM.
Navigate using PHM to the keys shown in my first post and change the numbers accordingly.
Post again with problems.
PS changing registry has potential risks. There is a chance that if you d something wrong you will need to hard reset again. Are you willing to take the chance?
PPS You may need to soft reset. Do not just poke stylus in hole. LONG press on off switch until a message pops up. Say yes. Device will reset.
Mike

Hi Mike
sorry to border you again i have manage to install and iin my device i can only find \HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd only and inside it it has got InitialDelay and Repeat Rate
i cant find \HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\locale
however i can find \HKCU\keyboard layout\preload\1 its value is e0010409
is that the one?
thanks for your help

Hang on while I check mine!
Mike

just go ahead and take your time hopefully u can help me
thanks

OK, it seems the info I gave above re keys to change does not apply to Hermes specifically. However there are registry changes you can make. The following information is taken from the "wiki" link on brown bar top of page:
Goto the following registry entry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]There is a key called 'Layout' and it is in Decimal.
The default value of English ROM is 20409, and Chinese ROM is 20404 (both are in hexadecimal).
The suitable value for German Hermes keyboard is 20407 (132103 in decimal). =qwertz
The suitable value for Spanish Hermes keyboard is 2040a (132106 in decimal).
Probably Hermes use 20+country ID (409=WWE, 407=German, 404=Trad. Chinese, etc...) format for keyboard layout value.
The above settings does not work with the latest Hermes firmware, the following is required.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\Preload]"Default"="e0010414"[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\Preload\1]"Default"="e0010414"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]"Layout"="132116"
The last setting is the same as in the above solutionThese settings are for Norwegian keyboard, country code : 0414Tested on fw. 1.31.502.1
Note: For those with a Chinese Keyboard Layout, Changing the Preload will affect Outlook, particularly when composing e-mails. Typing e-mail addresses will not auto-load from your address book for some reason. This can be fixed but deleting the [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\Preload] folder and all its contents. As of now, no known side effects from deleting the folder has been found.
A list of other layouts:
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/winxp/xp-lcid.mspx
Note2: For those using a Japanese layout (i.e. Softbank X01HT) with newer ROMs should use 30411 Hex. (197649 Dec) as value for keyboard layout in order to get ',' and '.' properly mapped:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\Preload]"Default"="e0030411"[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\keyboard layout\Preload\1]"Default"="e0030411"[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]"Layout"="197649" Hope rhat all makes sense
Mike

thanks mike for your help. even though it is not working but i appreciate your effort for helping me.
thanks mate you the champ

Saint said:
thanks mike for your help. even though it is not working but i appreciate your effort for helping me.
thanks mate you the champ
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Hi Saint. Sorry it's not working but perhaps it's worth another go - and don't forget do not do standard soft reset after changes use the long press on on/off button. The reason I say this is that there are folks out there who have said it does work (though they were going Qwertz to qwerty, but still, - see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=273332
Good luck
Mike

thanks alot mike it works now. it is such a wonderful that you can help me with this. thanks once again

Pleased it's working
Happy days!
Cheers
Mike

Qwertz in WM6
Though our company IT expert went through the regedit settings, in WM6 this fix seems not to work.
A cab file would be the solution (without German editing or word suggestion)
Anybody out there with a QWERTZ hardware input running WM6?
Would be very very very happy to get help

When you people make these changes to the registry it is advisable to put the phone to sleep for at least 1 minute to make sure the registry values get saved...

shogunmark said:
When you people make these changes to the registry it is advisable to put the phone to sleep for at least 1 minute to make sure the registry values get saved...
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Great, My Trion may sleep even 24 hours if only the regedit settings would work...
They refer to WM 5 settings and not WM6. As such, no values can be set at the correct three.
Damn. I need that cab file badly...

i dont know what can i say
i really thank you so so so so much "mikechannon". i dont need aekmap anymore.
friends as mikechannon said;
Goto the following registry entry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]There is a key called 'Layout' and it is in Decimal.
The default value of English ROM is 20409, and Chinese ROM is 20404 (both are in hexadecimal).
The suitable value for German Hermes keyboard is 20407 (132103 in decimal). =qwertz
The suitable value for Spanish Hermes keyboard is 2040a (132106 in decimal).
Probably Hermes use 20+country ID (409=WWE, 407=German, 404=Trad. Chinese, etc...) format for keyboard layout value.
it really works perfectly
thanks thanks thanks

QWERTZ keyboard layout

My O2 XDA Mini S has a QWERTZ keyboard layout, and the WM software uses QWERTY layout, thats why whwn I type using the keyboard, Ive always misused the Y with the Z, and vise versa. Also the symbols are all rumnbled into places. Is there a way I can use the QWETZ layout using the english WM, because I believe that the QWERTZ layout maybe compatible to WM German version. (I dont understant german, so I need the english version). Please help, because I dont think I can do anything with the physical layout of my keyboard so I just need a modification with the software.

you need to edit the keyboard language in the registry. the default is 0409 for english. im not sure what the german one is, but check the wiki, i'm sure you can find out some more info in there.
look at the next post, i figured it out
-Nstefanelli-

Code:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\Locale = 0407
You have to edit the registry, you need to change it from 0409 to the above.
Good luck.
-Nstefanelli-

Hi. I'm not able to safe any keys in the registry.
Done and rebooted. Edit was gone.
Maybe issue with my Registry editor?

I use the german keyboard as well. The easiest solution to that is the Registry wizard
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Upload/cabs/RegistryWizard_PPC.ARMV4.cab
There you just change the keyboard to German and done with it.
As to the other, you should always wait a couple of minutes before reboot, looks like it actually take some time for the system to write it back into the registry.
In addition, it's moire than just the one key to change.
Bye

In here any simular cab like this, but for Czech qwertz keyboard?
Thanx in advance!

roland valentini said:
I use the german keyboard as well. The easiest solution to that is the Registry wizard
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Upload/cabs/RegistryWizard_PPC.ARMV4.cab
There you just change the keyboard to German and done with it.
As to the other, you should always wait a couple of minutes before reboot, looks like it actually take some time for the system to write it back into the registry.
In addition, it's moire than just the one key to change.
Bye
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Thanks.
But this location is not working for me

I have the same problem again....
This fix worked for me with wm5 but I just upgraded to wm6 and kb went to qwerty mode (the hardware is a qwertz).
I tried adding the above-mentioned key to the recommended location, and it did not work (that key does not initially exist on wm6).
I also found two keys: \\\registry\hkcu\keyboard layout\preload\default, and \\\registry\hkcu\keyboard layout\preload\1\default, and both of them had e0010409 as the value. I changed them both to e0010407 and tried coldboot after each (one and then both) and it still doesnt thinks its a qwerty keyboard.
Any ideas guys?
Thanks -- AshayinFLA

Switch keyboard from QWERTY to QWERTZ

Hi.
I have just installed the phone enabled rom. Everything is fine, but it is an english version. Actually I managed to switch everything from english to german EXCEPT the hardware keyboard. I have figured out the following keys in the registry:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd (this is already known and does not seem to have any effect)
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout (this seems to activate one of the defined layouts in the 'Layout'-key)
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
Could anyone, who has a german keyboard layout running, check what his/her entries in these three keys are?
If anyone has another solution for this issue, I would be happy to hear from you.
Thanks alot.

Don't know wether this is the solution, but there are lots of keyboard layouts listed in:
HKLM/System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Keyboard Layouts
The German Layout has the key number 00000407.
Maybe you only need to enter that number as value in:
HKU/Default/Keyboard Layout/Preload
Good luck
retir0

Hi
Thanks for your reply. The country code for German is known, I have tried that, but it caused some major problems including not working keyboards (not even the virtual keyboard). Only transcriber was still working.
That is why I thought the registry keys
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Keyboard Layout
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
would have more effect.
If you look into the "layouts" you will find "00000409" which defines the US keyboard layout. There you will find a "Layout File" that is called "KbdNopALL.DLL" and another value called "Layout Text" containing the value "US". I was wandering if changing any of these keys would enable the QWERTZ layout of the keyboard. So if anyone that uses a QWERTZ Layout could check what settings there are in these keys (e.g. "Layout File" is the same, but "Layout Text" is "DE" or "GER"). Does anyone know anything about the "KbdNopAll.DLL"?

Looking into "00000409" I find the "Layout File" 'KBDUS.DLL' and the "Layout Text" 'US'.
By contrast in "00000407" the values are 'KBDGR.DLL' and 'German'.
I've scanned the whole registry but didn't find any KbdNopAll.dll-file on my German version Shift.
Hope I could help a bit.
retir0

hmm, maybe someone should make a Keyb.cab or REG file, that switch automaticly the right Language codes into registry.
I remember, that this issue comes up all new releases of a WWE ROM, I think there is the solution in some older posts ;-)
Anybody knows how to make a *.cab file or a Reg file for pocket PC´s?
If I know that, I can make a "batch" file for easy changing to german Keyboard layout ;-)

got it
i finally got it.
i had a false entry in
HKLM/hardware/devicemap/keybd/CurLang
the value 407 was entered in Decimal which results in a wrong Hexadecimal value. Now I have entered 407 as a hex value which equals 1031 in decimal. now the layout is correct.
damn complicated that is....
thanks for your help everybody

retir0 said:
Looking into "00000409" I find the "Layout File" 'KBDUS.DLL' and the "Layout Text" 'US'.
By contrast in "00000407" the values are 'KBDGR.DLL' and 'German'.
I've scanned the whole registry but didn't find any KbdNopAll.dll-file on my German version Shift.
Hope I could help a bit.
retir0
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I've got the same problem with my German Treo 750. Hardware keyboard swaps z and y. I've changed all registry entries, but what I need is a kbdgr.dll to change the contents of my new created 00000407 to Layout File KBDGR.DLL and the Layout Text to German.
Has anyone got an idea where I could get this kbdgr.dll for WM 6.0?
I googled my fingertips bleeding, but only found the dll for xp - and I'm sure that this wouldn't work with my Treo.
Regards and thanks,
Reiner

Is there really nobody with a German Treo 750 to help me?
Regards,
Reiner

Auto word suggestion

My elfin auto suggest words when using keyboard on a black horzontal line above the keyboard. How can I switch to the original WM vertical list method? Is there a reg key to change?
Thanks!

I think thats build into your SIP.
Which means you cant change it, you can try googling it though.

I'd really like to get rid of that black bar as well.
Is there some way you can change the SIP?

A solution
Ok I found out how to do it and it just requires a couple of small registry changes.
Change the following entries under registry key: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
Ime File: compime.dll (compime.dll was in my Windows directory so I didn't need to copy it)
Layout Text: COMP IME
Soft reset and the old autocomplete that we all know and love is back, e.g. a small box with all the suggestions.

jeremy89632 said:
I think thats build into your SIP.
Which means you cant change it, you can try googling it though.
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May not be as the keyboard is the standard WM keyboard, not the HTC one. Additionally, for some time, I managed to make the black bar go away and revert to the drop down list. But recently, I did a deep registry celarning using memmaid and somehow something was changed and it caused the blacj bar to appear again...
Wondering where in the Registry should I look for this....

Galadai said:
Ok I found out how to do it and it just requires a couple of small registry changes.
Change the following entries under registry key: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
Ime File: compime.dll (compime.dll was in my Windows directory so I didn't need to copy it)
Layout Text: COMP IME
Soft reset and the old autocomplete that we all know and love is back, e.g. a small box with all the suggestions.
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I see entries under the Layouts: (Which one to change for normal Windows Mobile Keyboard?)
00000409
Layout File kbdNopAll.dll
Layout Text US
PS2_AT kbdNopAll.dll
e0010409
Ime File \windows\eT9ime.dll
Keyboard Layout 00000409
Layout Text eT9 IME
e0010804
Ime File xime.dll
Keyboard Layout 00000409
Layout Text Mobem IME
Which one should I change? Or do I creat a new entry? Thanks for your help!
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Found put that I should change e0010409 from eT9ime.dll to compime. Problem is that I can;t find this file on my elf.... continuing to look