Today I had to softreset my phone for the first time without doing it from Mobile Shell. The phone hanged for the first time - and I didn´t find the reset button You have to take of the battery cover to soft reset it - hadn´t thought of that before because I never had to do it Lucky you don´t have to do it very often
Oh man, are you serious?! That might be a deal breaker for me. As often as you have to reset WM, I can't believe they were that dumb!
Blowfish64 said:
Oh man, are you serious?! That might be a deal breaker for me. As often as you have to reset WM, I can't believe they were that dumb!
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yes but the phone is so stable you don´t have to do it often I have to reset my Touch Pro much more often
Given the instability of many 3rd party programs, it's not going to matter how stable Sony's OS build is, it's going to freeze up. I was trying to give Sony the benefit of the doubt on their hardware design seeing as how they're new to the WM world and all, but first they take off the side button, and now this. Just stupid.
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Given the instability of many 3rd party programs, it's not going to matter how stable Sony's OS build is, it's going to freeze up. I was trying to give Sony the benefit of the doubt on their hardware design seeing as how they're new to the WM world and all, but first they take off the side button, and now this. Just stupid.
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I once did the misstake and bought a Samsung SGH-i780 - it could not even be hard reset Just inside WM with "Clear storage" - but not with any button combination. It took Samsung months to fix it for the english roms. But the Swedish rom is yet not updated and fixed - so if it hangs and only a hard reset helps you have to send it to their repairshop - thats stupid
i know there is a soft reset program for windows mobile which you could use so that you wont have to remove the battery cover.
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i know there is a soft reset program for windows mobile which you could use instead of removing the battery cover.
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Yes as I wrote I normally use Mobile Shell for that, there are lot of applications for soft reset. But they are no help when the phone has hang and you can´t use them
try long press turn on/off button
on HTC Pharos its working even if OS is freeze
kosobryuh said:
try long press turn on/off button
on HTC Pharos its working even if OS is freeze
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same on my kaiser
I guess the common image of any MS product is that you have to reset all the time. Its not really true. I rarely have to reset my kaiser. 90% of the time I reset, it is because some software or teak that I made needs a reset to apply itself. My phone rarely crashes. I guess YMMV.
agree... 1 time in 2-3 weekx at maximum for my touchXL
It's more like 1-2 times a day on my Kaiser. That'd be annoying. But if holding hangup button really worked PERFECTLY even if the entire phone was frozen, I'd be ok with that. Anyone with the X1 want to check?
My Wizard has never really locked up anytime I was just using it how its supposed to be used. Now when I go into things that arent preinstalled on the phone eg PocketSNES or FPSEce then it might freeze and since those are 3rd party programs you can't complain about them locking up.
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My Wizard has never really locked up anytime I was just using it how its supposed to be used. Now when I go into things that arent preinstalled on the phone eg PocketSNES or FPSEce then it might freeze and since those are 3rd party programs you can't complain about them locking up.
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Uhm, bingo. 3rd party apps. Kind of one of those things that is attractive in WM versus the iPhone. You know what they are, right? I mean, it's great that the OS of the Xperia is stable, but since 3rd party apps aren't always stable, did Sony put some sort of guarantee in there that the phone would never lock up no matter what? No? Then why are you posting about how the lack of an external soft-reset button doesn't matter?
I don't like the soft-reset hole under the battery-cover too. But does it matter? Would I not buy the phone in cause of this? No!
I have the same problem with my G900. Yes, I don't like it and there are moments, softreset by software does not work and the 5 second-hold of the power-off does not work too. But they are not often and mostly when playing with new installations of software. In the daily work there is no need to softreset by this and therefore I don't mind this problem, even I don't like it.
Drill a hole in the back cover , then U can softreset it without remove it
Its a good phone.. but when U try alot of soft its good to have Spb + installed to be able to start in safemode.
notice some system apps and tweaks did hang it after a rebot.. maybe its the screen size.
a fast remove of cover and soft reset it twice jumps the question about safe mode and then U can uninstal the bugger.
but .. its so much better then my Kaiser.
Love the steel look.
Feels so solid.
can live with the reset under the cover
Would LOVE some custome roms .. hehe anyone ???
Carlis said:
Drill a hole in the back cover , then U can softreset it without remove it
Its a good phone.. but when U try alot of soft its good to have Spb + installed to be able to start in safemode.
notice some system apps and tweaks did hang it after a rebot.. maybe its the screen size.
a fast remove of cover and soft reset it twice jumps the question about safe mode and then U can uninstal the bugger.
but .. its so much better then my Kaiser.
Love the steel look.
Feels so solid.
can live with the reset under the cover
Would LOVE some custome roms .. hehe anyone ???
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I thought spb pp safe mode just disabled the spb extensions. Does it also disable other startup apps too?
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I thought spb pp safe mode just disabled the spb extensions. Does it also disable other startup apps too?
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yes it start it clean. not just the Spb apps.
Could anyone take a picture of the back of the phone with the cover off so I can see where exactly the reset button is located?
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I saw a thread about the a guy changed his wizard after using it for 5 months
What do u think mates?Is this a phone that just seems good when you firs got it?
My review about this phone is(cingular 8125)I've been using it for a month now.
keyboard got a lit' bit loose..
Poor battery life.(1day at most)
and it keeps dialing the last call while in my pocket in case i forgot the lock itlol(btw is there any autolock program for wizard)
Cheers :lol:
Hi Mate,
I have it just for 3 days now , but I wanted to ask you, how can I lock the keypad when I put it in my pocket to avoid dialing by itself by accident ?
i'm using the regular wi5 lock button at the today screen but there are some programs that allows you to choose a hard button and use it as a lock
but im looking for an autolock
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Hi Mate,
I have it just for 3 days now , but I wanted to ask you, how can I lock the keypad when I put it in my pocket to avoid dialing by itself by accident ?
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Well, since its going into your pocket and you won't need the screen, can't you just hit the power button once to make it go into standby mode. Two benefits, you save battery, and lock the phone (only a press of the power key unlocks it again). In standby, you will still receive phone calls and get email (if its set to poll every XX mnutes, dunno about push email). The only downside to using the power button as a keylock is if you're using the wizard as mp3 player or something becuase standby causes the app to stop.
There's a cab out there that allows you to map the key lock to a button, I forgot what thread its in. I've got keylock mapped to the voice record button (hold). It works well.
Thanks Edyhan, I thought that this Lock is to lock the PPC and give it a password so that nobody can use it without knowing the Password well I am very new with this Pocket PCs, I am still figuring out the beauty.
KINetics, thanks for your reply, I know about the Power button, but it can b pushed - accidently - too then your PPC gonna do some jobs while it is in your Pocket, this is why Locking the buttons is the best solution.
But I really don't need any other apps just to lock the keys, as long as there is a Lock already in the WM5.
I wish the Wizard owners answer the main question of the Thread Starter
Edyhan said:
I saw a thread about the a guy changed his wizard after using it for 5 months
What do u think mates?Is this a phone that just seems good when you firs got it?
My review about this phone is(cingular 8125)I've been using it for a month now.
keyboard got a lit' bit loose..
Poor battery life.(1day at most)
and it keeps dialing the last call while in my pocket in case i forgot the lock itlol(btw is there any autolock program for wizard)
Cheers :lol:
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I got the tmo mda the day it was available in the US and I like it a lot more now than when I got it. I can't say my keyboard has come loose but it does seem to close with less than a snap now and then. Still, it seems to work fine, as does the phone, so I'm not concerned.
The custom 2.17 rom available on this site seems to work wonders for battery life. When using the stock tmo rom, battery life was a couple days. With the 2.17 rom, it takes 3 days to hit 50%. Your mileage may vary, of course, but it added a couple extra days for me. I've since gotten a battery that's about twice as large (needs a custom backplate for the phone) and it seems to last forever but I haven't measured the time.
Finally, I agree with the above. I hit the power button before putting it in my pocket and it's never once dialed on it's own. I also discovered the secret of hitting the power button after I call or answer the phone. That prevents random screen frenzy from your face as you talk.
I had a Blue Angel phone before the mda and I really liked that phone a lot. It had a larger screen and was much faster but...the mda had WM5 and the BA was 2003SE. Eventually I learned that there's a different "rhythm" to using the mda and once I found it, I stopped overclocking and now I think it's an awesome phone.
For locking the Wizard I normally use a combination of both lock and standby, ty hat way if the power button does get pressed in pocket (which has happened on a couple of occasion) the screen comes on but the pad is still locked.
I've owned mine since January and have been more than happy with it, sure its bigger than my old Orange C500 but it does way more too! only got around to hard reset it the other day to wipe off the T Mobile due to having so much installed on it, tis faster now tho. Overall a great phone, even my stylis still stays in tho it doesn't extend when u pull it out anymore.
Hello everyone:
I've found a failure on my blackstone's g-sensor.
I noticed it wasn't working playing Teeter.
I tried to configure with the tool provided in the ROM but une of the bubles (horizontal) always goes back to the right side.
Tried hard reset, but still got the problem.
Is there something like a driver that I could reinstall, or should I send it directy to HTC??
Thanks in advance
If HARD reset doesn't work, I would suggest sending it back for repair.
- Steve
Yes, HARD reset didn't work.
The SOFT reset was the first thing I tried...
¿Wouldn't be possible to reinstall the software that uses the g-sensor?
The hard reset restores your phone to the state it was out of the factory. No additional software to the preinstalled stuff is required for the G-sensor to work. If immediately after a hard reset the G-sensor still does not work, it's 99% a hardware problem. The reason why hard reset is suggested is to make sure that other software possibly disturbing what does not work (the G-sensor software in this case) are removed, but, again, out of the box the phone already has the software and drivers needed for each part of it to work.
By the way, the calibration error is a clear signal of the problem.
Well my friends...
The g-sensor failure issue has been solved without HTC's help...
Maybe using the Advanced Config tool, I changed the Gsensor value (don't know how to translate it, in spanish "Intervalo de muestreo del acelerómetro").
I set it in 200. Today, as my last attempt to solve it, I changed it again, to 150, and... et voila!!! It works!!!
The strangest thing is that I made several soft reset, even one hard reset (yes, a hard reset, I know how to do a hard reset), but it didn't worked.
It seems that some changes we make with this configuration tools, stay the way we set them, even if we make a hard reset... Is this possible?
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If immediately after a hard reset the G-sensor still does not work, it's 99% a hardware problem.
By the way, the calibration error is a clear signal of the problem.
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Definitely, I've found the 1% that always bothers us in computers...
I still tend to think that your sensor was "stuck" for some reason and after a bit of moving and shaking the device with normal use it got "unstuck". The stock settings are always correct for basic hardware features, and are the same for all users.
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I still tend to think that your sensor was "stuck" for some reason and after a bit of moving and shaking the device with normal use it got "unstuck". The stock settings are always correct for basic hardware features, and are the same for all users.
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Maybe you're right.
In fact, I've changed back the value back to 200 (ms.), and it still works...
But it didn't get unstuck by the normal use... I tried it several times. It happened only when I changed that value.
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But it didn't get unstuck by the normal use... I tried it several times. It happened only when I changed that value.
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By doing a hard reset this value should be reset to default, so if you really did a hard reset, it probably wasn't a software issue at all.
I don't have any explanation. Maybe it was just a case that it got unstuck in that moment, maybe not, and changing the setting caused something in a microchip of the G sensor work again... No ideas.
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By doing a hard reset this value should be reset to default, so if you really did a hard reset, it probably wasn't a software issue at all.
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Yes, a hard reset, switching on the PDA while keeping volume down pushed, as the user guide says...
I don't have any explanation. Maybe it was just a case that it got unstuck in that moment, maybe not, and changing the setting caused something in a microchip of the G sensor work again... No ideas.
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OK, at least, if anyone reports same problem, this could help.
Hi,
I m facing the same problem as you described, my horizontal tube is stuck on the left side.
I tryed to change the polling interval setting without effect.
I discovered a weird (from my point of view) inside the registry. The calibrate2-? is set set at a very hight value (only 1 in binary).
Changing it by a registry editor doesn't work, it goes back to the weird value when i restart the device.
Can you tell me if you had such values when you experienced the problem ?
Thank you
Hi again,
You know what ? i m happy
It was a pure physical problem. I give on my touch hd a little pinch on the left side and it unstuck the problem.
Everyone must know that it can happen. No change inside the registry is needed. You just have to shake a bit your hd to make it work again (if you break it i m not responsible )
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It was a pure physical problem. I give on my touch hd a little pinch on the left side and it unstuck the problem.
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I had this problem after I traveled in a bus on a bumpy road with HD in my pocket - No pressure fall or anything. I am surprised to see so many had his problem. Hard Reset was no use. I shook my HD vigorously and this solved it. I was worried if this baby gets a Shaken baby syndrome by the shake
Lol! You remind me of my car stand. Each time I am on my car with the HD on its stand, and I bump into a hole on the road, the screen rotates for a short while (due to the G-sensor). This is annoying, but funny... I think I will add TomTom to the exceptions list.
yann.gloriau said:
Hi again,
You know what ? i m happy
It was a pure physical problem. I give on my touch hd a little pinch on the left side and it unstuck the problem.
Everyone must know that it can happen. No change inside the registry is needed. You just have to shake a bit your hd to make it work again (if you break it i m not responsible )
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Had the exact same problem, sensor was stuck on the left. I was about to retire the HD and go back to my rhodium when found this post.
Pinching didn't work but a minute of VIGOROUS shaking did the trick! Still looking for my stylus which flew out ... be careful when trying this at home children
Yay, my HD lives!
Please advice where can i find the advance config tool? i'm facing the same problem
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Please advice where can i find the advance config tool? i'm facing the same problem
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Here you go mate
rahilpatwa said:
Please advice where can i find the advance config tool? i'm facing the same problem
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It sounds like the less Advanced tool also does the trick - just give it a vigorous shake
I don't know if i did or something else happened but when i shake the HD it wakes up (it turn on) - and i want to turn that off because it turns on when i just a little bit shake (and that's not good when it's in my pocket)...
I have on it: HD tweak and a theme for HD (black theme) - the rest is by default (fixes, .net 3.5)....any sugestions (besides hard reset - after soft reset same thing)
EDIT: I restarted several times and now is ok....i just love MS crap......
It's a pretty ignorant statement to say it's a Microsoft thing since our devices don't do that.
You must have installed an app to cause this.
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I don't know if i did or something else happened but when i shake the HD it wakes up (it turn on) - and i want to turn that off because it turns on when i just a little bit shake (and that's not good when it's in my pocket)...
I have on it: HD tweak and a theme for HD (black theme) - the rest is by default (fixes, .net 3.5)....any sugestions (besides hard reset - after soft reset same thing)
EDIT: I restarted several times and now is ok....i just love MS crap......
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Actually, this happens also to me and almost every day. It happens by just shaking the phone. As a result, many times when I take it out of my pocket I find it dialling, messaging, etc by itself. I believe it is an hardware issue, and not the only one I have as I also experience sd card not being "read" anymore (soft reset or re-inserting needed to have it back).
Anybody else experienced this?
Hmmm - my first thought is you have an application doing this.
But, reading your comments further suggests a possible hardware fault. If for some reason the SD card connection is not right then the shaking might start up the device.
Try keeping the SD card OUT for a while and see if that helps. If this stops the problem then it looks like a hardware fault.
I am so confused by this problem, as it almost seems impossible with the reasoning that when the device gets suspanded, it was rumored that the accelorameter gets turned off (to which I agree, as my Gyrator does not work when the device gets suspended, only if just the screen is turned off, however the top 'power' button normally suspends the device). This brings us to a post from about two months ago, when people WANTED a program which would suspend/wake the phone up with shaking, but it was said impossible with the reasoning above (as there is a program which lets you switch silent/vibrate/ring profiles by shaking, but the phone has to be on for it to work). In the end, glad you got it worked out (though I'd still like a program that would do just that)
Just a thought... could have something to do with a looser stylus. Don't forget that whn you pull it out phone comes out of standby. Worth checking the stylus.
my hd doesnt do this :S must be a loose stylus or smthng..
Now that HTC have located the reset button under the battery cover whats the point in it anymore. If the covers off you may as well yank the battery out than spend 10 minutes looking for a suitable pen etc to press the little bugger with.....
Just my 2 pence worth!!!!
richie_jones said:
Now that HTC have located the reset button under the battery cover whats the point in it anymore. If the covers off you may as well yank the battery out than spend 10 minutes looking for a suitable pen etc to press the little bugger with.....
Just my 2 pence worth!!!!
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Agreed. I just pull the battery when necessary because I never have anything small enough to press it.
You dont really need it anyway
richie_jones said:
Now that HTC have located the reset button under the battery cover whats the point in it anymore. If the covers off you may as well yank the battery out than spend 10 minutes looking for a suitable pen etc to press the little bugger with.....
Just my 2 pence worth!!!!
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If you want to soft-reset the device - just hold the power button,
then select "Power Off".
Tap the power button again - and - the device had soft-resetted.
It the device is hung - well, that's a different story,
as you said - just pop the battery, and you're set.
Bad idea to hide reset point. Window mobile sucks a lot, and everyday I need open the battery cache. Just boring.
Is a simple power cycle (power off/on) the exact same thing as a soft reset?
I always thought they were different for some reason?
They are not different. Only sometimes you can't use power off, for example if the device is stuck.
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Bad idea to hide reset point. Window mobile sucks a lot, and everyday I need open the battery cache. Just boring.
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I can't imagine what you are doing if you have to soft reset like this every day but I wouldn't blame it on Windows Mobile. I think I've had to pop the battery maybe twice in the last month and I know that it was my fault at least one of those times.
Agreed. Although so far the only thing I've had that needs it is when the lock-screen decides not to accept my PIN. But how long until the battery cover no longer stays in place?
Strange.. Never had to make a reset yet. Still havent crashed on me not only once. Am I blessed? lol
Yes if I need to do it the buttin is not on the best spot but for me it is working like a charm!
I had few hangups trying different CorePlayer output devices. Also had to reset few times because of problems with lock screen (could not unlock).
But all-around, HD2 is pretty stable for WM device.
If spare back-plates become readily available, and don't cost too much, I might drill a hole in mine so that a paperclip could hit the reset button without pulling the back off every time. Given the location of the reset button, it almost feels like this hole should already exist.
Due to a crash caused by putting the phone in standby while closing down igo8, i had to reset my device to make it work again.
I didnt had a pencil close by so i just pulled the battery out. When i booted it again it seems manilla became corrupted and restored itself (like after a hard-reset). I needed to fill in my details in manilla just like after a hard reset. So some information was lost, but the storage on the phone was still there. But for example i needed to install cf3.5 again and all the apps asked if they are verified before i could start them again.
I wonder if this problem occured because i pulled the battery instead of pushing the reset button? ANyway this is a pain in the ass bug but as far as i can tell im the only one with this problem so far...
Well, I think HTC chose to hide the soft rest button right next to the battery becuase of two reasons:
1. You don't have the chance to accidentally press that button. BTW: I have never accidentally pressed the soft rest button on my P4350...
2. If they hadn't built in such a button, everyone here qould be bragging and nagging that there is no such button, and you'd always have to "pull the plug" ie. the battery, which would of course be harmful for the battery etc. pp.
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Well, I think HTC chose to hide the soft rest button right next to the battery becuase of two reasons:
1. You don't have the chance to accidentally press that button. BTW: I have never accidentally pressed the soft rest button on my P4350...
2. If they hadn't built in such a button, everyone here qould be bragging and nagging that there is no such button, and you'd always have to "pull the plug" ie. the battery, which would of course be harmful for the battery etc. pp.
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3. They didn't actually use the device enough to realise that hiding the reset button was a daft idea.
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3. They didn't actually use the device enough to realise that hiding the reset button was a daft idea.
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Design over function, I think...
The reset button should be recessed into the lower SIDE of the phone, next to the usb and earphone ports. Having to remove the battery cover just negates the need for the button, period.
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3. They didn't actually use the device enough to realise that hiding the reset button was a daft idea.
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I think it's good for design. And it's not like we need to press the reset button everyday.
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I think it's good for design. And it's not like we need to press the reset button everyday.
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Um but you never need to press the reset button. Ever. Once you've taken the battery cover off it's easier to just remove the battery than press the reset button....
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I think it's good for design.
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Until the battery cover no longer stays on because the plastic tabs in the phone body have been worn because they forgot to put a small hole in the battery cover to reach the reset button.
Just as i said - Argh! The screen is no longer responsive. What to do? I can no longer slide the lock across the screen. i have tried to flash the ROM with the 1.66 official but i cannot because it tells me to unlock the phone. I cant! argh! I've pushed the little red button by the battery a couple of times as well as removed the battery. Any suggestions? The hard buttons allow me to answer a call but that's it. i recently turned on the lock for the phone (today in fact) but I've unlocked it several times since doing so before this happened.
Sounds familiar...
Sounds like it is the same problem I had, as well as a few others on this forum. Even after a hard reset, it still didn't work. According to other people here, the solution is to have the screen swopped out for a new one. I've actually just sent mine in today to get it sorted out.
Just curious - I've got a suspicion that environmental conditions may have a role to play in causing the failure. What is the weather in your area like?
Very nice here today. Sunny, mid 50s(f).
I bought this off of ebay. Do i just send it in to HTC?
Try a hard reset, and if it doesn't help then make sure you have an official ROM and send it to HTC.
a hard reset is the little red button next to the battery, correct? ive done that.
and i cant very well change the ROMs at this point now, can i?
lythe123 said:
a hard reset is the little red button next to the battery, correct? ive done that.
and i cant very well change the ROMs at this point now, can i?
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I would really like to wipe it before i sent it in. i dont want all my info, etc going into someones hands i dont know. anyway to do that?
No, that's a soft reset. Hard reset is pressing the red button while holding both volume keys until you get the "Restore factory settings?" prompt (when the device is on), then following the onsceeen instructions. This is what you're looking for to erase everything, including any possible software bug that could have caused the issue.
If the touchscreen still doesn't work then, send it in.
lythe123 said:
a hard reset is the little red button next to the battery, correct? ive done that.
and i cant very well change the ROMs at this point now, can i?
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No! A hard reset is:
- Turn phone off
- Press vol up and down at the same time and then press power button (hold vol)
- follow the instructions on the screen
Be aware, that all you data on the phone will get lost. I recommend taking out the SD for that as well. After that u r done. By what you say i assume, that you didnt flash a custom ROM yet, right ?
Thanks! that didnt work either though.
I just want my money back now honestly. This thing, as pretty as it is, is just too much trouble.
Sorry double post...
A faulty device can happen to anybody, just bad luck... can't count how many times it has happened to me as well in the past.
I heard that there is a batch of phones that have a faulty screen, other problems are that without pressing anything the phone still registers clicks, phone doesn't always detect the correct place of where you pressed and the screen not responding.
I have got this on my phone and have arranged a pick up from HTC to pick up my phone for repair, hopefully in a week or two it will come back with a brand new screen that works
Ive had it a couple of months now. Im not sure if i can deal with the lack of apps that my iPhone has, pandora and the like, and the fact that teh HD2 would every so often change time and even date and i cant get weather in places my iPhone can.
In short, i love the HD2 for its specs but i no longer trust it at all.