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Ultimate Point UI theme for PocketCM

I wanted my theme to look as much as possible as point UI.
you be the judge
The buttons at the bottom are removed. In stead I have 2 buttons at the top of the screen, the left for contactlist/smscontactlist the right for the option-buttons
--EDIT--
Not 1 but 2 revised versions, because I like you all so much.
Basiclly they are the same, with 1 difference:
Point UI Black BBF - Has a (point UI) bar at the bottom, which is the old favorite-button
Point UI Black NBBF - Has No Bottom Bar, in stead you can use the area between the other 2 buttons (see image).
Changelog:
- Returned the filter-button (in 2 different ways)
- Adjusted the top right button, it should work better now (it's also a little bit wider)
- Adjusted the dailer, it looks better now
- Changed the contact details top-bar, it now has an extra image
Known issues:
- The dailer sometimes keeps acting annoying
- With the NBBF-version, I can't get rid of the black square when you press the filter-button. It disappears again when you see contacts...

thank you

Daanmannetje said:
I wanted my theme to look as much as possible as point UI.
you be the judge
The buttons at the bottom are removed. In stead I have 2 buttons at the top of the screen, the left for contactlist/smscontactlist the right for the option-buttons
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Is this VGA? If not could you adjust it?

I tried to do anthing with relative sizes, but I don't know if it works on VGA, I think some of the images might be out of proportion.
I don't have a VGA-device, so I can't test it...

THX for the Skin.....but I have found some bugs...
1 ...by opening and closing the application, it opens in dial modus (Is that a normal behave) here the layout between icons and text does not suit each other
2 by long pressing inside a contact i got that (second image)
How can i get the options again..?? i would like to switch back to the former skin.
Used device: HTC Cruise (Orbit 2)

Daanmannetje said:
I wanted my theme to look as much as possible as point UI.
you be the judge
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I'm guessing you'll like better alpha channel support in 0.19

tene said:
I'm guessing you'll like better alpha channel support in 0.19
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Yes I will, but it is getting harder and harder to create a working skin without bugs...

qtek_metanol said:
THX for the Skin.....but I have found some bugs...
1 ...by opening and closing the application, it opens in dial modus (Is that a normal behave) here the layout between icons and text does not suit each other
2 by long pressing inside a contact i got that (second image)
How can i get the options again..?? i would like to switch back to the former skin.
Used device: HTC Cruise (Orbit 2)
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I don't have those problems, it doesn't open with the dail modus here.
If you have serious problems and can't get to the option screen:
- close pocketCM (use the close running programs in WM5/6)
- rename another theme to point ui.zip

Daanmannetje said:
I don't have those problems, it doesn't open with the dail modus here.
If you have serious problems and can't get to the option screen:
- close pocketCM (use the close running programs in WM5/6)
- rename another theme to point ui.zip
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THX for the recommendation, I've already recovery my old skin again (iPhone-ish v2.6) but anyway i must ask you something, where can the user in your skin reach the PocketCM options..??
I found the colors of your skin very lively

Normally you have 4 buttons at the bottom:
Favorite, SMS/phone, Filter, Options
Now you have 2 buttons at the top:
The phone on the left = SMS/Phone
The arrow on the right = Options
Press and hold options to see 4 extra buttons:
old contacts
options
close
minimize

Daanmannetje said:
The arrow on the right = Options
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Well, this button has always closed the app...and after when I tryed to reopen the app using the key "contacts" came the dialing option as showed.

normally you had to press the options buttons shortly to get the dail and long to minimize/see options
what you properly did was press it short, which opened the dail and then a second time which minimized it.
When you pressed contacts again, you maximized pocketCM and the dail was still open...

Looks great! I'll try is as soon as possible.

Looks great. Any chance you could skin it black to go with the black PointUI?

Zyphlin said:
Looks great. Any chance you could skin it black to go with the black PointUI?
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see the first post...

Really great skin, very nice work..

I really like your work man but you have still some little improvements to do
What qtek_metanol was trying to tell you is that when you use the virtual button to minimize the app, and reopen it, you'll see PocketCM open with the dialer on ... But the reason is simple... this virtual button is the same as your option button (but smaller). In fact, the virtual button is in the right up corner (like if it was the cross) and if you want to use it, you click also on the option button which show the dialer.
I don't think that we can deactivate this virtual button so the isue is maybe to move the option button... ?? You're the creative one

Tekka33 said:
I really like your work man but you have still some little improvements to do
What qtek_metanol was trying to tell you is that when you use the virtual button to minimize the app, and reopen it, you'll see PocketCM open with the dialer on ... But the reason is simple... this virtual button is the same as your option button (but smaller). In fact, the virtual button is in the right up corner (like if it was the cross) and if you want to use it, you click also on the option button which show the dialer.
I don't think that we can deactivate this virtual button so the isue is maybe to move the option button... ?? You're the creative one
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What is the virtual button?
Is there normally a button in the upper right corner? I've tested it with the standard theme and no matter how much I pressed there, nothing happened.
The only thing I can think about is the following:
If you "click" (really short) on the upper right corner = dailpad
If you press (less then 400ms) on the right corner = minimize
If you press and hold the upper right corner = option-buttons
Those are all standard with every theme, just the location of the button changed..
I want the theme to work perfect, and it does for me... except for the dailer screen, it's a bit messed up with the green and red, but I never use it...

Ok so we don't have the same isue...
If I click (less than a nanosecond ) on the right corner : minimise + Dialer
If I press (less then 400ms) on the right corner = minimize + Dialer
If you press and hold the upper right corner = option-buttons
Maybe it's because of my Touch ??

I've tried, maybe you're partly right:
click = dailer or dailer + minimize
press = minimize
press and hold = option-buttons
so the solution for me is to press and not to click
Maybe someone can try to mess around with the timings in settings.ini? I think you can adjust the 400ms and stuff...

start menu opens when touching screen with finger

Hi,
When I use my finger on my HTC trinity screen (rather than using the stylus) sometimes the start menu opens. At first I didn't understand why, but then when I opened the notes application and used my finger to draw on the screen I noticed that sometimes a line appears from my finger to the top left corner of the screen, even though I didn't touch there... It's as though the screen is confused and it detects a touch on the top left corner.
Anyone have a clue why this is happening?

I have no idea why this happens, but I do have the same problem. So far I've been ignoring it. I'm on Schap's 4.30.

This is a well know bug on Trinity, read here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=370478

WOW - thanks so much - this bug was driving me crazzzy!

Where is the link?

iAno like program for HTC diamond

Is there any programs like the iAno for the HTC diamond?

tango3 said:
Is there any programs like the iAno for the HTC diamond?
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The diamond is not a multi-touch screen. Sigh... another plus for the iPhone.

topspeclt said:
The diamond is not a multi-touch screen. Sigh... another plus for the iPhone.
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Aww darn it

topspeclt said:
The diamond is not a multi-touch screen. Sigh... another plus for the iPhone.
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The screen may not be multiitouch, but the lower panel is fully multi-touch, and can be sued tor anything you fancy...
I don't know who else has noticed this, but the diamond only has 2 real hardware buttons it seems. The device uses the multi touch panel to "guess" which button has been pressed, as the finger touches the panel over the button.
A nice experiment to try, is pressing a button through a t-shirt or a cloth. You'll notice that the buttons light up, but no commands are executed, as the device doens't know where you pressed.

brins0 said:
The device uses the multi touch panel to "guess" which button has been pressed, as the finger touches the panel over the button.
A nice experiment to try, is pressing a button through a t-shirt or a cloth. You'll notice that the buttons light up, but no commands are executed, as the device doens't know where you pressed.
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Are you talking about the actual buttons at the bottom of the phone? Because mine actually press down. Yours must be broken
I can even press them with an apple

i think he sais that the phone "knows" your finger is on the button before u even push it, its enough to gently stroke or place your finger onto the round button.
i dont think he meant that he couldnt push the button, just that there is 2 functions to it.

thats right
the pad on the bottom actually server 2 purposes. mechanical buttons (5, enter, home, back,pick up, and hang up) and the dialwheel... BUT underneath the buttons there is more.. the complete pad is touchsensitive, altough not utilized by the diamond, for now that is...
its even multitouch.. for now only the dialwheel and the enter buttom use the touchsensitive capabilities..
somewhere on this forum there are a bunch of applications to debug/test youre diamond, i believe this paticular program was called navdebug or something like that..
it would be nice when sombody can utilize this pad in his software...

Espensodal said:
i think he sais that the phone "knows" your finger is on the button before u even push it, its enough to gently stroke or place your finger onto the round button.
i dont think he meant that he couldnt push the button, just that there is 2 functions to it.
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I know there is the touch and the actual button function, but when he said...
brins0 said:
the diamond only has 2 real hardware buttons it seems. The device uses the multi touch panel to "guess" which button has been pressed, as the finger touches the panel over the button.
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...it had me confused. The panel clearly has hardware buttons underneath so there must be more than 2 on the entire phone. It also doesn't need to "guess" which button has been pressed.

The lower part of Touch Diamond has:
Two touch surfaces (one on the left and one on the right of the OK button)
Two clickable buttons underneath each touch surface (actually including the OK button it's 3 buttons)
When you put your finger on the touch panel it reads your position. If you press harder you will press the button underneath and it will translate the press according to your position on the touch panel as a specific button press.
So in theory, we could add another button bitween HOME and PHONE, or BACK and HANG UP etc etc
Unfortunately it's not fully multitouch, it just able to read simultaneously finger positions or presses from both touch panels. Something that may be mistaken for multitouch!

Ah right, so the 2 hardware buttons makes sense now

marios96 said:
The lower part of Touch Diamond has:
Two touch surfaces (one on the left and one on the right of the OK button)
Two clickable buttons underneath each touch surface (actually including the OK button it's 3 buttons)
When you put your finger on the touch panel it reads your position. If you press harder you will press the button underneath and it will translate the press according to your position on the touch panel as a specific button press.
So in theory, we could add another button bitween HOME and PHONE, or BACK and HANG UP etc etc
Unfortunately it's not fully multitouch, it just able to read simultaneously finger positions or presses from both touch panels. Something that may be mistaken for multitouch!
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youre absolutly right...
however when i run the navdebug for the touchpanel, i can surely read the position of my fingers on both sides simutaniously. wich as far as i understand could be explained as multitouch.... correct me if i am wrong..
sadly i dont know how to code my own software, otherwise i would like to investigate further how this works... i geuss it has a grid of proximitysensor whis get read at a specific interval, and i assume, like the navdebug already gives away, that the resolution of the so calles multitouchpanel, will be very low...
i tried it and i just have to correct some of my sayings...
i seems that the matrix is divided into 3 parts wich could be read simutaniously, lets say left, middle and right... it doesnt read multitouch in one matrix... we just got 3 matrixes simutaniously....
never the less we could utilize it for example scrolling....

I am not really sure how multi touch works but I have been using Stylophone program
on my fone and the whole screen is a keyboard. I allows you to play 2 keys of the keyboard
at the same time and two different sounds are always present if u get what I mean.
So m not sure if that cuts in as multi touch....Hmmm

marios96 said:
The lower part of Touch Diamond has:
Two touch surfaces (one on the left and one on the right of the OK button)
Two clickable buttons underneath each touch surface (actually including the OK button it's 3 buttons)
When you put your finger on the touch panel it reads your position. If you press harder you will press the button underneath and it will translate the press according to your position on the touch panel as a specific button press.
So in theory, we could add another button bitween HOME and PHONE, or BACK and HANG UP etc etc
Unfortunately it's not fully multitouch, it just able to read simultaneously finger positions or presses from both touch panels. Something that may be mistaken for multitouch!
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This is exaclty what I was trying to say. I really do suck at explaining things sometimes...
The buttons on my device do indeed click down when pressed firmly, but when pressed with a non organic object, the button clicks, but no action is performed, as the device does not know where the button was pressed down.
When I work out how to read the location of these "touches" I think it would be VERY easy to add extra "buttons" to the lower touch section, and even replace the ones which are there already.

here's the link for whom that haven't seen it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3Owgcos_KY

[REQ] Twin curtain style app

I'm putting out a request to all developers in compiling this app.
My idea is based off the function of the dialer curtain. Only, this app will have the option of using a transparent curtain or custom curtain (blank, wallpaper, etc.) and the curtains can be activated at any time for any reason, and then of course, be deactivated.
To be a little more detailed, one could use a capacitive swipe upwards from the send key to the home key (and activate transparent mode), or from the end call key to the back key (to activate wallpaper mode), to initialize the program. Upon initialization, the screen wouldn't be immediately covered, only a click and drag icon would appear at the top and/or bottom of the screen. Clicking this icon and dragging up or down would extend and retract the curtain and the curtain could stop wherever you lift your finger (you could use the curtain to partially cover the screen). Reactivating the program while running would simply close it (meaning another swipe upwards of the capacitive area would put away the curtain AND button).
An added option would be to double or triple tap the curtain button once the curtain has been put in place to lock the curtain in place. (even locked so that capacitive swipes won't close the program.)
I feel this could be very useful in many area's and for all types of user's from parents to porn addicts as well as for business. (<---that's sounds kinda F'd up in an ominous pun kind of way.)
Just to name a few
(e.g. Porn addicts could use it for privacy purposes in public. Parents could use it to cover the start menu while in a paint app and let their child play with it without worry, and business when you're multi tasking and need to walk away for a min and want to lock/hide the screen without closing apps or putting your phone into suspend.) Not to mention a fullscreen dialer curtain!
So what do you all think? I know there are apps that can do parts of this which is why I'm asking multiple developers to compile their certain segments.
Please and Thank You!
*Edited* A better way to lock it could be if the curtain button was able to slide left and right. When it pops up, it would start on the right side. when you let go and then touch the button again, you could slide it to the left side of the screen and it would lock. ( Because the button actually sits just above the curtain, when you drag to the very top, the button wouldn't exit the screen and the curtain wouldn't cover the start menu. Same thing for dragging down, it wouldn't cover the softkeys. But when you performed the locking action, the curtain would merely slide up or down the rest of the way. eh?!?!

Is this not that good of an idea? I noticed people have at least looked at this but not a single comment? No body backs this? disagrees? is too busy? i'm kinda disapointed.

Sounds to me like this is another locking application with features of both S2U2 and Touchlock Pro. Would you agree?

yes and no. More like a combo of butler and the HD dialer curtain with visual interaction/amusement. I'm a big fan of using gestures and seeing things work rather than just relying on adequate lighting or waiting for a vibration.
Mainly, this style of locking app allows you to lock out certain parts of your phone with ease, while still being able to use other functions.

To me this is not really another locking app! I actually like this idea. Has some possibility in it! Good thinking

Dialer optimization - double tap / click to dial and up/down arrows

Guys,
does anybody know if and how can I make my dialer not dial the person when I single tap on the row but only highlight it and then use either the hardware dial button or the big green "talk" button ... or double tapping the highlighted row?
I find it very annoying when I tap an adjacent row by mistake and have to search again. This happens pretty often when I drive and have my HD2 on a stand but it also happens from time to time when hold the phone in one hand I try to select/dial the topmost row in the result list.
The last part brings another question - is there a way to add two arrow buttons at the bottom of the dialer which will go trough up/down through the list? These will be very helpful in such "car" situations and also in the case where the search criteria results in large list (more than 3-4 items) which requires a scroll (flip scroll) and/or hiding the dialing pad to see the full list. Currently I've mapped the Vol Up/Down keys for up/down directions with AEButtons but it's not very convenient / comfortable.
I'll try to make some kind of screen shot to show what exactly I mean but I believe you get the point.

Here are the screen shots - the original and the modified (using paint)
It would be great if somebody can make such a dialer ... or explain what I need to make it myself. (the arrow buttons should stay visible when one hides the dialer ... or when the user presses them to start moving the "focused" contact just as if hardware arrows are pressed).

pankov said:
Here are the screen shots - the original and the modified (using paint)
It would be great if somebody can make such a dialer ... or explain what I need to make it myself. (the arrow buttons should stay visible when one hides the dialer ... or when the user presses them to start moving the "focused" contact just as if hardware arrows are pressed).
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I'm not sure but I don't think I can do it. I'm not to good at editing those resource dll files.
Someone like RyanMogul6800, or Fards, would know about this. Maybe senf one of them a PM.