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A button "ok" bigger

Is it possible to change the size of the button of "x-button" because it is inaccessible with the finger? May be we need a bigger bar.

X-Button
I don't know a sollution for this, but I map the x-button to a hardware key. That way I don't press the x-button with finger, just press the hardware button. The bad thing is that I don't have enough hardware buttons for all functions that i like to map, but .... There is no 100% happiness

Thanks, it's a good idea but as you said, there are no enough buttons. The best would be not to make a bigger bar but a button broader, i mean increase the size horizontally.

If you use Smartkeys you can assign 2 functions to the softbuttons, hold and it will do something, single tap does another. I use it and if I hold the right softkey it closes/ok

I'll post a solution within 1 week (on that thread) using an app from Vijay to hide the taskbar and a battery status theme replacement for it.. Stay tuned

Here, try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143&page=49 post 481 You can use it w/FtouchFlo or map it to a hardware button.

Why not replace it with a hardware button?
I made VJOkButt for this. If you can show me a graphic of how you think the X button should look, enlarged, I'll try to make it. However, without proximity sensing in the screen, this seems quite futile. How big would you want the OK button? Wouldn't it obscure the normal screen?
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vijay555 said:
Why not replace it with a hardware button?
I made VJOkButt for this. If you can show me a graphic of how you think the X button should look, enlarged, I'll try to make it. However, without proximity sensing in the screen, this seems quite futile. How big would you want the OK button? Wouldn't it obscure the normal screen?
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I mapped it to ftouchflo up-down, works great.

I am using WKTask, you'll have options for OK/X button to make it bigger, I would say almost 50% bigger

powerwoot said:
I am using WKTask, you'll have options for OK/X button to make it bigger, I would say almost 50% bigger
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Thanks, i'm going to try.

Gestures on buttons

Hi,
I do not own Touch HD, so I cannot test, but the button area bellow should be touch sensitive. Why did not somebody used it as D-pad? Dragging up/down left/righ as the GScroll (http://www.mobilesrc.com/GScroll.aspx) for Diamond? It is not possible to detect different touch positions on the same button so with only one row of buttons there is no way how to do up/down gestures?
Thanks you for your explanation, Jan

very good idea, i'll check !
edit : doesn't works somebody to code it ?

I've tryed it, not working for me on my HD (black pearl light rom) , but an app like that should be the missing part for HD.

This is a FANTASTIC idea.
Anyone willing to give it a shot and code it?

I don't think this is possible, because those "touch sensitive buttons" aren't capacitive buttons, they are just normal button much more sensitive than usual. You can see it your self by pressing them with the stylus: it works, and it wouldn't if they were capacitive.

for sure the button are not capacitive i did the same test too and few more
i think the "button" are a simple touch screen extra area
look at the attached image of the touch screen replacement part.
i think that all the button area could be remapped as wished..

Using Magic mobile or AEbuttons you can remap key to simulate Dpad, i've put up and down to double tap volume,left to double hang up, right to double hang off, center to double backspace, done it with mobilemagic. Give it a try.

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Using Magic mobile or AEbuttons you can remap key to simulate Dpad, i've put up and down to double tap volume,left to double hang up, right to double hang off, center to double backspace, done it with mobilemagic. Give it a try.
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For me this is not good replacement, on real D-pad I can press and hold, for instance quick rewind/forward on player. You cannot do that with key remapping.
If it is possible to follow gestures, you can move left a hold to simulate D-pad left key hold.

I don't think the buttons are "capacitive" (as on iPhone), but the button area is touch sensitive as the rest of the display - see the image. So it in theory should be possible to use this area to capture stylus or finger touches. I don't think I am the first one with this idea. It seems to be that there are some obstacles.

[REQ] Double tap the Capacitive screen buttons

Essentially, I'd like to get even more buttons. With the capacitive screen, we have the 4 hardware buttons for Home, Green & Red and the hybrid back/ok button. There's the 4 directional 'hidden' buttons and of course, the center select buttons.
When you count the scroll/zoom surface, that's 9.
THEN, add in butler and you get 4 more via swipe actions.
I'd like to see a double tap application - or possible extension to butler?
So if you double tap the Home, send, end or back buttons (not press - TAP) you can assign a link or application to them.
Also, is the center button also capacitive? put your finger on it and lights for the other buttons will come on... If so, can we turn it into a 'mouseball' of sorts?
Anyone else see a use for something like this?

GScroll has that.
You can assign programs to launch when you double tap one of the four button locations.
And it can emulate cursor keys left/right/up/down by swiping part of the capacitive area.
And it has a task switcher that activates on a certain capacitive-motion but I can't figure it out how to make it work ok .
The app is 5 bucks from Mobihand, and get the latest beta from their own forum.

Flippin sweet! Thanks!
Anyone know if the center button is capacitive?

l3it3r said:
Flippin sweet! Thanks!
Anyone know if the center button is capacitive?
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yes it is..

OK, so is there any app that uses the center button like a sort of 'rollerball' type input? It could even work like the 'nubs' on the old Toshiba, IBM & Lenovo laptops

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OK, so is there any app that uses the center button like a sort of 'rollerball' type input? It could even work like the 'nubs' on the old Toshiba, IBM & Lenovo laptops
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I haven't seen an APP for that, but the last beta of GScroll has a mouse pointer activated by the center button and is controlled by touching anywhere on any of the capacitive pads. I don't use is much though. Otherwise it' a great idea, just not sure it would work that well. Who knows?

l3it3r said:
OK, so is there any app that uses the center button like a sort of 'rollerball' type input? It could even work like the 'nubs' on the old Toshiba, IBM & Lenovo laptops
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Aw the days of the good ol' Think Pad clitoris, haha.

[Q] Anyone Else Prefer Physical Home Button Versus Virtual?

I prefer waking my phone by pressing the physical home button rather than using the side power button. Since the note has a larger foot print it's easier to reach the home button.
Also given Amoled's flaws, static images such as the notification bar and virtual on screen buttons would prematurely cause screen burn out which leads to ghosting. I've had the notification/status bar destroy my galaxy S screen.
Am I the only one that likes physical home button?

inurb said:
I prefer waking my phone by pressing the physical home button rather than using the side power button. Since the note has a larger foot print it's easier to reach the home button.
Also given Amoled's flaws, static images such as the notification bar and virtual on screen buttons would prematurely cause screen burn out which leads to ghosting. I've had the notification/status bar destroy my galaxy S screen.
Am I the only one that likes physical home button?
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Nopes You are not...I too like waking it up via the Home button....

I also prefer the physical home button compared to the capacitive touch buttons. This device is my first international phone that I have used and I like it a lot better than any carrier's version I've ever used.

I'd rater it was capacitive like menu and back buttons. Would make the design look so much better.
Can't say that i like software keys though - i always turn them off.

Given I'm the only one who voted Virtual so far; I better post my rationale to see if I am sensible or really need to get my head checked.
First; why I like the physical button; no accidental press and good demarcation of where the back and menu buttons are (and the home of course ) I tend to wake the phone using the side lock button, because my thumb is on the side already, when I pull the phone out of my pocket (right handed) but I grant that when my phone is on the table, its much easier with the home button.
On the other hand I would prefer it if the home button was the capacitive icon like the menu and back buttons. Advantages of this to me would be that it would distance Samsung from the iPhone-like single button front but mainly because I like the modern feel when I used a Galaxy Nexus. There is something to be said for the 'light touch' approach to using phones. I Swype the screen with a light touch, tap icons and links lightly, back-button lightly. Then *crunch* the home button goes. I know its a really weird niggle to make but it is just personal preference.
edit: Reading some of the posts which were made while I was composing this short essay, I think I may have misunderstood 'virtual button'.

Yep same here prefer sometimes it saves me when screen is stuck
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Physical for me as well. And I use Screen Off and Lock in the notification bar to, well, switch the screen off and lock the phone. Using the power button is soooo 2010.
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I never use the home button to wake the phone (well maybe that's because I only discovered that it can be used instead of the power button after having the note for like a month lol)

I've not had a virtual unit to compare against, but I could see some problems having a virtual home key.
So, I voted physical.

My opinion goes like this:
99/100 - Xperia X10 buttons (slim, long, elegant, easy to press. Proper positioning of Back, Home, Menu buttons).
80/100 - NOTE's physical buttons (though the Back and Menu buttons should trade places. Accidental capacitive presses occur when passing the phone to others).
60/100 - On-Screen buttons (ICS/JB).
What I would like for NOTE-2:
On-screen buttons:
-Then device can be smaller.
-Device looks better/styling.
-S PEN will work with it.
-We can customize it with different functions, colours, glows, animations, gestures, app shortcuts.

Kangal said:
My opinion goes like this:
99/100 - Xperia X10 buttons (slim, long, elegant, easy to press. Proper positioning of Back, Home, Menu buttons).
80/100 - NOTE's physical buttons (though the Back and Menu buttons should trade places. Accidental capacitive presses occur when passing the phone to others).
60/100 - On-Screen buttons (ICS/JB).
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+1 totally agree!
PS. The X10 buttons were great, too bad the phone sucked.
PPS. I really hope phone manufacturers keep disregarding the ics/jb onscreen buttons. It just looks fancy but is way less functional.

On-screen or capacitive. Tactile feedback reminds me of wear anf tear. On the Note, I unlock exclusively using the home key
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I prefer physical Home button of Note / GS2. It is easier to wake up the phone. But compared to other Android which have capactivie Home, I tend to press physical Home less frequently, but instead press capaitive Back couple of times to come back to home. When I must press Home for task switching or when I have browsed several pages in browser, I press Home. So my take is - I like physical Home to wake up but would have preferred capacitive Home to go to home screen.

Kangal said:
What I would like for NOTE-2:
On-screen buttons:
-Then device can be smaller.
-Device looks better/styling.
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Huh? Device can be smaller?! You know that the result would be a smaller screen, right? In fact, if you want the same (usable) screen size, the device has to have the exact same size, even with CB.
I´m really enjoying my hardware buttons and I really hope that samsung will never ever abandon them.
- Wakeup with home key
- NO IN-BURNS!!!
- brighter lightning, even when screen is in energy saving mode
- partwise usable for other functions (see hyperX camera mod)

It is as simple as this....
YOU PREFER YOUR GIRLFRIEND/WIFE TO BE "PHYSICAL" OR "VIRTUAL" ????
The answer to this is as easy as the answer to that

Rulinglionadi said:
It is as simple as this....
YOU PREFER YOUR GIRLFRIEND/WIFE TO BE "PHYSICAL" OR "VIRTUAL" ????
The answer to this is as easy as the answer to that
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:-D great analogy
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brooon said:
Huh? Device can be smaller?! You know that the result would be a smaller screen, right? In fact, if you want the same (usable) screen size, the device has to have the exact same size, even with CB.
I´m really enjoying my hardware buttons and I really hope that samsung will never ever abandon them.
- Wakeup with home key
- NO IN-BURNS!!!
- brighter lightning, even when screen is in energy saving mode
- partwise usable for other functions (see hyperX camera mod)
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Here's my reasons why NOTE 2 should get On-Screen buttons:
1) Position the Power button on top. Make it large. Make it clicky.
There you go, its easy to Wake phone again : )
2) The Burn-In is associated with the screen tech, not the buttons themselves.
This point is quite redundant/pointless. In fact the issue affected a tiny portion of Gnex users and the in-burn was associated with the entire screen NOT exclusive to the navigation buttons.
3) You do have a point. But changing the buttons to a white silhouette will make it bright and stand out. You then have the option of making it Grey so its easier on the eyes in the dark. Or red to save power. You can also set a "screen on time" for the Navigation buttons for how illuminated they are for what duration. And more options when in power mode. The possibility of tons of options makes this a positive thing, not a negative thing.
4) hyperX MOD is for the Volume Rocker not the Home/Back/Menu keys. Its still possible to have hyperX and On-screen buttons. What you will miss out on though is BLED: flashing of capacitive buttons when Notification arrives.
Solution: Notification light! (a la Gnex)
I'd like to make another suggestion: Curved Glass.
That way it molds around your face and bum cheeks. Feels a little more balanced in the hand. What do you think?

Disable Home-Button if soft-pressed

I don't know why Samsung made the onscreen home button working even if you don't press it and just touch it. So is it possible to "disable" the home-button when I just touch it and make it only work if I press it hard so it gives the force feedback?

Jemand222 said:
I don't know why Samsung made the onscreen home button working even if you don't press it and just touch it. So is it possible to "disable" the home-button when I just touch it and make it only work if I press it hard so it gives the force feedback?
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You can increase the sensativity of the hard press so it always acts as a press so you know
Go to settings - display - nav buttons and move the slider to more sensative

ElBeaner said:
You can increase the sensativity of the hard press so it always acts as a press so you know
Go to settings - display - nav buttons and move the slider to more sensative
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That's only for a hard press, so when locked, or in full screen for example. I don't think we can disable soft presses generally yet.

ElBeaner: Thanks for your help but thats not what I wanted.
I thought that there is no normal touch on the home button when all the reports came about the new force touch button. I was expecting that Samsung replaced the old button with the force feedback one. But they just added normal on screen buttons like they are on 100s of other android phones. And I really don't see no need for the force feedback button because all it does you can also do with touching the button and not pressing it.
It would be great if Samsung changes the behaviour so that only a real press on the home button is working and not the touch.

Wait so you want the on screen button to only work when its pressed hard? :silly:

peachpuff said:
Wait so you want the on screen button to only work when its pressed hard? :silly:
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Yes, I would actually prefer it if that was an option.

Skander1998 said:
Yes, I would actually prefer it if that was an option.
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And what phones have soft buttons that only work as hard buttons? Zero, stick to phones with physical buttons instead rather than hoping for an imaginary feature.

Actually I like the idea of pressure on the button as an option. We know it could be done if programmed right as the ability is right there, pressure sensitivity is built in under the screen.

This would be such a great idea. One of the reasons I hate onscreen buttons so much is that it's so easy to accidentally miss the space bar and tap the home button instead.

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Wait so you want the on screen button to only work when its pressed hard? :silly:
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Silly indeed

I'd actually prefer this too. It's weird that their whole promotion was around a pressure sensitive home button, but the way they set it up, it literally has no purpose.

Moostafa29 said:
I'd actually prefer this too. It's weird that their whole promotion was around a pressure sensitive home button, but the way they set it up, it literally has no purpose.
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You can press it to wake the phone up, you can press it to go home if you're watching a full screen movie or playing a game and the onscreen buttons aren't shown... ya i guess it's useless.

Interesting topic. So why has Samsung included a hard press home button? It doesn't​ do anything.

i would also prefer this , im in the same boat , useing messages app , and having the floating buttons show up is anoying

I'm pretty sure this is how the iPhone 7 home button works. It is not a physical button but a pressure sensitive area where the button used to be. Different actions for different amounts of pressure.

It would be great to have the whole display everytime and if you need the back button and the task manager button you could swipe them up (like on fullscreen apps) and you have always the sensitive home button. That would be 1cm more screen and no accidental clicks on the home button.
I guess that it has a reason why Samsung built a button but doesn't use it for real. And I found one possible reason: If you touch the display above the button and slide your finger to the center of the button you can't press it. You have to hit the button directly to press it.

ex-28 said:
i would also prefer this , im in the same boat , useing messages app , and having the floating buttons show up is anoying
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Its been like this since forever on any nexus/pixel devices, get used to it.

peachpuff said:
And what phones have soft buttons that only work as hard buttons? Zero, stick to phones with physical buttons instead rather than hoping for an imaginary feature.
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I agree with the original poster. With the soft touch intact, what is the purpose of the hard press? You can't get to a hard touch without a soft touch so it is pointless, also, I use immersive mode so if I swipe up the nav bar, invariably it's from the centre so I accidentally trigger the home key.

mydan said:
I agree with the original poster. With the soft touch intact, what is the purpose of the hard press? You can't get to a hard touch without a soft touch so it is pointless, also, I use immersive mode so if I swipe up the nav bar, invariably it's from the centre so I accidentally trigger the home key.
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Hard press (3D touch) is to make you always able to go home even when navbar is not present,
As for the rest of situation, soft press is more than enough to serve the function
So I dont really think enable only the hard press is actually a good idea.

otonieru said:
Hard press (3D touch) is to make you always able to go home even when navbar is not present,
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Thank you... why can't people understand this?