M2D 3d Driver ROMs RAM Usage? - Touch Cruise ROM Development

Hey Folks,
first of all, I like those new ROMs with Manila2D very much. Interface looks nice and is really good to use.
The thing that makes me think about going back to non-Manila ROM is the excessive RAM usage ... with Syrius R1 e.g. I got max. 35mb of free RAM directly after Installation. Compared to a udK Diamond R8 which I used for quiet a while ... running SPB Mobile Shell 2.1.2 + Cube and several other installed apps, gave me 45mb+ free RAM.
What's your RAM usage like with Manila2D? I don't know if it's in any way worth sacrificing 10MB+ of RAM just for the nice looks .... though anyway Mobile Shell looks very nice too, and has like thousands of Skins and mods available.
boba

Well thats the trade off you get. Manila 2d isnt THAT RAM intensive. So its up to you wether you use it or not.
I think Manila is GREAT and im more than happy to sacrifice ram. Nothing else compares to Manila.
If you want just a skin and cut down on Ram usage a little bit, try loading on Vito's Winterface or iFonz.
Other than that, just dont use Manila.

No answer to your question, just a other question of me.
Do you need the extra free program memory?
I never have a shortage in memory. I never checked the amout of free memory until I saw your post. I have 23 MB free program memory with a lot of programs active. I noticed there is only a total of 84 MB of program memory. I thought it should be 128 MB? As stated before, I never have any issues with a lack of memory.

Different ROMs have different amounts of free RAM available. There is a certain amount that can be reserved for other things, such as pagepool I believe, that take away from the total program memory available. This even happened in the wm6.1 official ROM, max memory available dropped.

hambola said:
Different ROMs have different amounts of free RAM available. There is a certain amount that can be reserved for other things, such as pagepool I believe, that take away from the total program memory available. This even happened in the wm6.1 official ROM, max memory available dropped.
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If you want max free memory out of the ROM, like me try Bepe 0.67 rom. I disable the Biotouch.exe (a simple trick by renaming activesynkiller.exe to Biotouch.exe) And install Manila2D on my own -> use the beta 18 version.
And on fresh restart, I get 69MB free memory. After hours of usage, I still get 60MB free memory.

No answer but another question
IGO 6 & 8 not working while Manila is active, must disable the Manila and reset to launch IGO
if I minimize IGO and start Manila and return back to IGO it working with no problem
is it another memory problem or what ???

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Available memory size of most common HTC Wizard OS versions

Real, dependable, up-to-date information on the available memory size of the most common HTC Wizard operating system versions
While trying to find a Wizard ROM version that makes it possible to run the
software-rendered version of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 by Aspyr Media (of
which I'll soon publish a quick review) on the HTC Wizard, I've thoroughly
scrutinized the free (dynamic) RAM/ROM size of all the known and recommended
ROM versions.
This information will be essential to anyone that wants to run
memory-intensive programs (mainly games) that require every single byte of
the memory.
... more at:
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=782&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
My QTek 9100 with the latest AKU2 ROM has 24 MBs of RAM after loading after a clean boot, but a few hours later and after loading *and* closing completely some apps, it is down to 18 MBs of RAM. Ususally that's where I am at: at 18 MBs of free RAM.
Eugenia said:
My QTek 9100 with the latest AKU2 ROM has 24 MBs of RAM after loading after a clean boot, but a few hours later and after loading *and* closing completely some apps, it is down to 18 MBs of RAM. Ususally that's where I am at: at 18 MBs of free RAM.
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Latest AKU2 ROM should grant you at least 26-27mb of ram. Try to avoid installing all the extrom crap after a hard reset (especially the antivirus if you're using latest imate rom).
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risidoro said:
Latest AKU2 ROM should grant you at least 26-27mb of ram. Try to avoid installing all the extrom crap after a hard reset (especially the antivirus if you're using latest imate rom).
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Depends heavily on how many programs you have installed and running in the background at startup. I have 24.6MB free RAM after booting, but with dozens of programs installed and several today plugins running (PocketBreeze, KabuToday, Egress, PocketWeather, tdlauncher, TimeToday) - I think you can't expect more than that! ;-) Before I switched to SBSH I had the SPB products installed and around 3-4MB less...
i know, but i though Eugenia was saying she's only 24mb after a hard reset (now i see she wrote 'clean boot' so maybe she was referring to a soft reset)
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FREE UP MEMORY RAM v1605

How can i free up memory ram? It seems is 64 MB, but i don´t know how obtain more free memory for programs than 29 mb when my v1605 is running without any program in use.
yes you have a maximum of 64mb of ram.
The operating system itself and the software loaded by your your device retail supplier (imate, dopod, htc, orange, congular etc) takes up around half of your ram. this is when the phone has booted up and 'you' have not loaded any applications.
therefore 29mb of free ram seems good.
Thanks, the probles is that i have some games that needs 32 free memory ram. There is not any way to do?
AMANTEGA said:
Thanks, the probles is that i have some games that needs 32 free memory ram. There is not any way to do?
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buy a psp
try using an app like memaid or sktools, though i doubt you can obtain 32 mbs.
simonk12 said:
try using an app like memaid or sktools, though i doubt you can obtain 32 mbs.
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i can obtain 32.5-33mb on a fresh soft reboot on my 8525... I chose not to install any of cingular extension rom and only installed the keyboard remap cab from the extrom...
and i installed most of my apps to the extension folder...
Also does anyone know of any apps that free's up ur ram as if u just done a soft reset??? i remember someone reccomend an app like that...
The most I have ever got free is around 33Mb so if you want to runs games that *need* 32Mb you will be struggling. This is on a bare Hermes (no programs installed) with nothing from the ext ROM loaded and no operator junk.
The best program I have come across for freeing up memory is MemMaid

usual amount of free RAM

Hi All,
What would you say was a reasonable amount of free RAM to have with a WM5 Wizard, assuming you'd already installed the standard stuff like smartskey, tomtom, reg hacks, palm messaging etc etc?
Mine's on about 9.5MB free which seems very low, and it's causing GPS Tuner to fail to launch.
I'm debating a hard reset and reinstall and wanted to canvas opinions...
landwomble said:
Hi All,
What would you say was a reasonable amount of free RAM to have with a WM5 Wizard, assuming you'd already installed the standard stuff like smartskey, tomtom, reg hacks, palm messaging etc etc?
Mine's on about 9.5MB free which seems very low, and it's causing GPS Tuner to fail to launch.
I'm debating a hard reset and reinstall and wanted to canvas opinions...
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Are you taking about program RAM ( I have about 25M Free) or Device RAM ( I have about 19M Free)? If your taking about device RAM (where you install programs) I would uninstall them and any program that does not have a today plug-in associated with it, I would install it on my mini SD Card, if it does have a today plug-in associated with it, I would install that on the device. Also, you can go into your mail attachments stored on your SD Card as well as your temp internet files. If you are speaking about program memory, well, I would suggest Faria’s WM5 3.3 ROM!

Picsel ProViewer memory problem

What can I do with the speed of Picsel ProViewer under HTC TD2?
I can read the PDF files with HTC Touch Pro perfectly (e.g. an 130 Mb magazine) and I cannot believe that the older PDA is faster and has larger memory than the Touch Diamond 2.
TD2 is „out of memory” and I cannot move the page quick just very slow.
My memory is basically on 50% and I don’t know why. There’s no running program. Suspect that this is the problem but how can I increase the Free memory? Can You give me any solution? Thanks a lot in advance..
Use TD2 Tools and set it for max free RAM.
Also try to disable Sense and see if it works.
Thnx, I'll try!

[ROM]ROM_TG01_Clone_Diamond2_WWE based latest WM6.1 & TouchFLO 3D

The new ROM based WM 6.1 and stock apps Diamond 2​
Hi!
Provides users XDA my ROM.
Current version
ROM_TG01_Clone_D2_6.1.21056_WWE
Date: 26 Martch 2011
Version Radio: 5005.1600.05
Build version: WM 6.1 5.2.21056 Windows CE: 5.2 Build 3028 (2 октября 2009 г. 7:51:40)
Detailed description:
ROM cooking based on the latest ROM HTC Diamond 2 with OS 6.1 & oridginal TouchFLO 3D 2.0
I'm have not pursued the goal of maximum achieved a huge amount of RAM, original goal was to cook the ROM retaining maximum functionality of the device software and Diamond 2. Make a clone of Dolly the sheep
Free RAM: ~ 100 mb
Free ROM: ~ 292 mb
Remove ROM: Autoupadate,DRM,Enterprise,FWUPDATE-replaced by the package mini,IPSECVPN,Livesearch,SampleMusic,SqlCeMobile,SQM-replaced by the package mini,VoIP,WelcomeCenter,WindowsLive,WMWidgets, turn off unnecessary services, standard keyboard MS, standard task manager MS, 3D Toshiba Menu, keyboard Toshiba, OEM cleared of debris operators and soft TG01.
Added ROM: TouchFLO 3D 2.0 (Landscape mode does not support), Phone Canvas Dialer, SIM Manager HTC, Teeter games, Google Maps, RSS Hub (work), YouTube, Voice Speed Dialer, HTC Zip, StreamingMedia, Voice Recorder, MP3 Trimmer, HTC Calc, Comm manager, Java, Adobe LE, Task Manager FDC 3.1, HTC EzInput 2.0, Quick GPS, Opera Browser 9.5, GPS Driver to Comm Port.
Special thanks to:
1. Barin for perfect rom-building tool and a lot of friendly advices
2. Cedesmith for cool TGtool program
3. Alexx~ & AndrewSh for friendly support
Thanks.
Enjoy
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Please keep the feedback.
ooho, very cool- i don´t need to update my miROM14! is the same, but better and more free RAM!
tnx for that ROM, my friend
Feropont! you did it, i will no doubt try this when i get home! thank you sooooooo much man! i really appreciate your work!
feropont said:
the new rom based wm 6.1 and stock apps diamond 2​
hi!
Provides users xda my rom.
current version
rom_tg01_clone_d2_6.1.21056_wwe
date: 26 martch 2011
version radio: 5005.1600.05
build version: wm 6.1 5.2.21056 windows ce: 5.2 build 3028 (2 октября 2009 г. 7:51:40)
detailed description:
rom cooking based on the latest rom htc diamond 2 with os 6.1 & oridginal touchflo 3d 2.0
i'm have not pursued the goal of maximum achieved a huge amount of ram, original goal was to cook the rom retaining maximum functionality of the device software and diamond 2. Make a clone of dolly the sheep
free ram: ~ 100 mb
free rom: ~ 292 mb
remove rom: autoupadate,drm,enterprise,fwupdate-replaced by the package mini,ipsecvpn,livesearch,samplemusic,sqlcemobile,sqm-replaced by the package mini,voip,welcomecenter,windowslive,wmwidgets, turn off unnecessary services, standard keyboard ms, standard task manager ms, 3d toshiba menu, keyboard toshiba, oem cleared of debris operators and soft tg01.
added rom: touchflo 3d 2.0 (landscape mode does not support), phone canvas dialer, sim manager htc, teeter games, google maps, rss hub (work), youtube, voice speed dialer, htc zip, streamingmedia, voice recorder, mp3 trimmer, htc calc, comm manager, java, adobe le, task manager fdc 3.1, htc ezinput 2.0, quick gps, opera browser 9.5, gps driver to comm port.
Special thanks to:
1. barin for perfect rom-building tool and a lot of friendly advices
2. cedesmith for cool tgtool program
3. alexx~ & andrewsh for friendly support
thanks.
Enjoy
download
please keep the feedback.
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downloading and will flash in next hour or so i love ur roms and miro roms u 2 guys have given our tg a new life . Even tosh themself cant do wot u 2 have done :d
May I aks, why you haven't used new Radio? The last one "5007.0000.0321 (tnx Nokser)" significantly improve call quality, as far as I noticed.
And just wondering why WM6.1?
Anyway great job man!
Narkodrom said:
May I aks, why you haven't used new Radio? The last one "5007.0000.0321 (tnx Nokser)" significantly improve call quality, as far as I noticed.
And just wondering why WM6.1?
Anyway great job man!
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use miros radio tool.
he uses 6.1 because the aim of the rom is to be a clone of the diamond 2 rom which was 6.1. there is also more ram in 6.1. i havent tried the rom yet!
hey man ) incredibile worck 10x, when you CLONE ANDROID )
skw said:
hey man ) incredibile worck 10x, when you CLONE ANDROID )
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When TG01 will still at least three additional buttons
feropont said:
When TG01 will still at least three additional buttons
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Testing your ROM now Feropont
I seemed to have an error, when i flashed the phone and it goes to customize settings, says failed HTC Log error.
I cannot navigate the phone and it is freezing... I managed to get to the file explorere though to reflash it again. I think i may have had a bad flash.
I'll report back. many thanks
Reflashed the ROM ,working great now! i love all the mods, they are so profesional! Please could you upload the files fro teeter please? it is the only ROM that has all functional HTC apps! Alos free RAM is quite low after a while.
But great ROM!
How about ROM_Clone_Touch HD (Blackstone now)?
Haha that would be awesome! I can find you the pacakges if you want. It uses less RAM and ROM.
touchflo 1.3 + wm6.1
How about it?
Cheers!
cheers!
Added to the table:
#209 26/03/2011 6.1 feropont 21056 5005.1600.05 E 292 100
ROM Table HERE
olyloh6696 said:
Reflashed the ROM ,working great now! i love all the mods, they are so profesional! Please could you upload the files fro teeter please? it is the only ROM that has all functional HTC apps! Alos free RAM is quite low after a while.
But great ROM!
How about ROM_Clone_Touch HD (Blackstone now)?
Haha that would be awesome! I can find you the pacakges if you want. It uses less RAM and ROM.
touchflo 1.3 + wm6.1
How about it?
Cheers!
cheers!
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From RAM memory there is a common phenomenon, unlike other ROM in my ROM included in the work of all the services HTC, one Opera 9.5 eats a fairly large amount of RAM, not to mention the other services HTC. And yet I have RAM does not fall below 70 mb, remember the time a month ago, you were glad that the first load had 80 MB, but now that has changed, spoiled you kindly huge RAM memory I'm not a huge fanatic of memory, I'm concerned about the maximum functionality of the software otherwise I'm just not interested.
Thx my friend
feropont said:
From RAM memory there is a common phenomenon, unlike other ROM in my ROM included in the work of all the services HTC, one Opera 9.5 eats a fairly large amount of RAM, not to mention the other services HTC. And yet I have RAM does not fall below 70 mb, remember the time a month ago, you were glad that the first load had 80 MB, but now that has changed, spoiled you kindly huge RAM memory I'm not a huge fanatic of memory, I'm concerned about the maximum functionality of the software otherwise I'm just not interested.
Thx my friend
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thanks for the explanation! do you want the touchflo 3d 1.3 packages for a blackstone clone? or do you already have them?
olyloh6696 said:
thanks for the explanation! do you want the touchflo 3d 1.3 packages for a blackstone clone? or do you already have them?
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Dump Blackstone do five minutes, another question that, I'm back Stick in the ROM all the software and services HTC and you will not see 130 MB of memory
hi there i flashed it after hard reset i changed o2 uk and regional setting it said restart
did that and it only went up to windows screen tried to recover it after with pin method no luck its not even charging red light :| just dark grey :| bricked i guess plus am not that good to unbrick it :|
feropont said:
Dump Blackstone do five minutes, another question that, I'm back Stick in the ROM all the software and services HTC and you will not see 130 MB of memory
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Yeh it wont have that much memory as the htc dialer + htc services take up RAM. but i can manually disable them
or you could do a perfectly clean ROM, just pure 6.1 + touchflo 3d 1.3..
that would also be nice!
thanks feropont!
rajauk1 said:
hi there i flashed it after hard reset i changed o2 uk and regional setting it said restart
did that and it only went up to windows screen tried to recover it after with pin method no luck its not even charging red light :| just dark grey :| bricked i guess plus am not that good to unbrick it :|
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atlast after messing around with it i unbricked it thanks to how to unbrick forum thread
olyloh6696 said:
Yeh it wont have that much memory as the htc dialer + htc services take up RAM. but i can manually disable them
or you could do a perfectly clean ROM, just pure 6.1 + touchflo 3d 1.3..
that would also be nice!
thanks feropont!
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Who can explain to me what good is a free 150 MB of RAM? When the virtual memory in windows CE 5.2 as it was 32 ​​MB and immutability. In this case, I'll have free RAM 50 mb, and of free space in slot 0 27 mb, but you will have 150 MB of RAM and 22 MB slot 0, tell me who is better going to work? Need to monitor primarily for slot 0 and its content, for virtual memory, because only 32 MB as it is, and will
feropont said:
Who can explain to me what good is a free 150 MB of RAM? When the virtual memory in windows CE 5.2 as it was 32 ​​MB and immutability. In this case, I'll have free RAM 50 mb, and of free space in slot 0 27 mb, but you will have 150 MB of RAM and 22 MB slot 0, tell me who is better going to work? Need to monitor primarily for slot 0 and its content, for virtual memory, because only 32 MB as it is, and will
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yes i am RAM addicted.. enough is never enough! i dont know why, but i always want more RAM when possible. its just my personal preference your the rom chef anyway, so your rom customizations are entirely up to you

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