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Better place to install TomTom5...

Hai guys!
Where do you have installed TomTOm 5 on your Jam?
I don't know if is better to install it on memory card, on RAM or on ROM....
Obviusly the maps on SD... :wink:
But the app?

I install everything on SD. (need to modify the registry to move the voice file to SD) So far so good.

can you indicated datail
I do install to the SD but it still intalled some files in main memory

I moved the files menually and modifiy the registry for the modified path

I installed all of it to the ROM (did the bigstorage rom hack), except for the maps which are on SD.

Install into RAM at all costs. Why? Because internal ROM and SD-Cards are way slower then internal RAM, youll slow down the speed of programs quite a lot. Using a Qtek S110 with 128MB RAM this is no problem at all but even on my old iPAQ 5450 with only 64MB RAM is was easily possible leaving 32MB for program exection.

Private-Cowboy said:
Install into RAM at all costs. Why? Because internal ROM and SD-Cards are way slower then internal RAM, youll slow down the speed of programs quite a lot. Using a Qtek S110 with 128MB RAM this is no problem at all but even on my old iPAQ 5450 with only 64MB RAM is was easily possible leaving 32MB for program exection.
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I agree RAM is the fastest one but I don't think putting everything on SD has any noticeable performance hit to run TT5 at all (it does takes more time to load, that's it). In fact, I always run TT5 + IGuidiance 2.1 + BetaPlayer all at once without performance problem. I don't want to spend extra $$$ to upgrade to 128mb and I rather save more ram to run more programs by all the tricks. (I do manage to get 35-40 mb free with many programs installed)

Smahatma said:
I installed all of it to the ROM (did the bigstorage rom hack), except for the maps which are on SD.
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Since we have to put the maps to SD anyway, I won't put the program to rom. Instead, I use my bigstorage for DLLs to save ram (by memmaid) and programs that still have to run even I need to swap the SD. Examples are:
1. Resco file explorer
2. betaplayer
3. Softick card export II.
4. Cyberon VoiceCommander (or MS Voicecommand)
5. Resco picture viewer
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Available memory size of most common HTC Wizard OS versions

Real, dependable, up-to-date information on the available memory size of the most common HTC Wizard operating system versions
While trying to find a Wizard ROM version that makes it possible to run the
software-rendered version of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 by Aspyr Media (of
which I'll soon publish a quick review) on the HTC Wizard, I've thoroughly
scrutinized the free (dynamic) RAM/ROM size of all the known and recommended
ROM versions.
This information will be essential to anyone that wants to run
memory-intensive programs (mainly games) that require every single byte of
the memory.
... more at:
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=782&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

My QTek 9100 with the latest AKU2 ROM has 24 MBs of RAM after loading after a clean boot, but a few hours later and after loading *and* closing completely some apps, it is down to 18 MBs of RAM. Ususally that's where I am at: at 18 MBs of free RAM.

Eugenia said:
My QTek 9100 with the latest AKU2 ROM has 24 MBs of RAM after loading after a clean boot, but a few hours later and after loading *and* closing completely some apps, it is down to 18 MBs of RAM. Ususally that's where I am at: at 18 MBs of free RAM.
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Latest AKU2 ROM should grant you at least 26-27mb of ram. Try to avoid installing all the extrom crap after a hard reset (especially the antivirus if you're using latest imate rom).
bye

risidoro said:
Latest AKU2 ROM should grant you at least 26-27mb of ram. Try to avoid installing all the extrom crap after a hard reset (especially the antivirus if you're using latest imate rom).
bye
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Depends heavily on how many programs you have installed and running in the background at startup. I have 24.6MB free RAM after booting, but with dozens of programs installed and several today plugins running (PocketBreeze, KabuToday, Egress, PocketWeather, tdlauncher, TimeToday) - I think you can't expect more than that! ;-) Before I switched to SBSH I had the SPB products installed and around 3-4MB less...

i know, but i though Eugenia was saying she's only 24mb after a hard reset (now i see she wrote 'clean boot' so maybe she was referring to a soft reset)
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How to redistribute free space between Storage and Program?

Hi,
I have all programs installed on 2GB miniSD card, and have 30MB in storage part of memory available, but have only 10MB free space available for programs (I'm running skype and some other big programs).
I'd like to redistribute space as I could in windows mobile 2003. Is it possible to do in WM5?
It's really anoying when iGo says it's not enougm memory available and I have to shut down some programs.

I asked a couple of times.
Got no convincing ansers. I hope some tech guru can find the solution!
I heard WM2005 handles the memory is a completely different way from WM 2003. So probably it is impossible.
Thanks
Saulo866

it varies between devices apparently. On my uk tmob vario it wont move at all, even using memaid :roll: on my old ipaq however it worked fine

You can NOT use (static) flash ROM (say, a storage card) as dynamic (program) RAM because of the speed difference, which is in the order of orders of magnitude.

That is, you can NOT increase the program memory in your PDA in any way - except for sending it in for PPCTechs for a (costly) RAM upgrade. Sorry.

usual amount of free RAM

Hi All,
What would you say was a reasonable amount of free RAM to have with a WM5 Wizard, assuming you'd already installed the standard stuff like smartskey, tomtom, reg hacks, palm messaging etc etc?
Mine's on about 9.5MB free which seems very low, and it's causing GPS Tuner to fail to launch.
I'm debating a hard reset and reinstall and wanted to canvas opinions...

landwomble said:
Hi All,
What would you say was a reasonable amount of free RAM to have with a WM5 Wizard, assuming you'd already installed the standard stuff like smartskey, tomtom, reg hacks, palm messaging etc etc?
Mine's on about 9.5MB free which seems very low, and it's causing GPS Tuner to fail to launch.
I'm debating a hard reset and reinstall and wanted to canvas opinions...
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Are you taking about program RAM ( I have about 25M Free) or Device RAM ( I have about 19M Free)? If your taking about device RAM (where you install programs) I would uninstall them and any program that does not have a today plug-in associated with it, I would install it on my mini SD Card, if it does have a today plug-in associated with it, I would install that on the device. Also, you can go into your mail attachments stored on your SD Card as well as your temp internet files. If you are speaking about program memory, well, I would suggest Faria’s WM5 3.3 ROM!

M2D 3d Driver ROMs RAM Usage?

Hey Folks,
first of all, I like those new ROMs with Manila2D very much. Interface looks nice and is really good to use.
The thing that makes me think about going back to non-Manila ROM is the excessive RAM usage ... with Syrius R1 e.g. I got max. 35mb of free RAM directly after Installation. Compared to a udK Diamond R8 which I used for quiet a while ... running SPB Mobile Shell 2.1.2 + Cube and several other installed apps, gave me 45mb+ free RAM.
What's your RAM usage like with Manila2D? I don't know if it's in any way worth sacrificing 10MB+ of RAM just for the nice looks .... though anyway Mobile Shell looks very nice too, and has like thousands of Skins and mods available.
boba

Well thats the trade off you get. Manila 2d isnt THAT RAM intensive. So its up to you wether you use it or not.
I think Manila is GREAT and im more than happy to sacrifice ram. Nothing else compares to Manila.
If you want just a skin and cut down on Ram usage a little bit, try loading on Vito's Winterface or iFonz.
Other than that, just dont use Manila.

No answer to your question, just a other question of me.
Do you need the extra free program memory?
I never have a shortage in memory. I never checked the amout of free memory until I saw your post. I have 23 MB free program memory with a lot of programs active. I noticed there is only a total of 84 MB of program memory. I thought it should be 128 MB? As stated before, I never have any issues with a lack of memory.

Different ROMs have different amounts of free RAM available. There is a certain amount that can be reserved for other things, such as pagepool I believe, that take away from the total program memory available. This even happened in the wm6.1 official ROM, max memory available dropped.

hambola said:
Different ROMs have different amounts of free RAM available. There is a certain amount that can be reserved for other things, such as pagepool I believe, that take away from the total program memory available. This even happened in the wm6.1 official ROM, max memory available dropped.
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If you want max free memory out of the ROM, like me try Bepe 0.67 rom. I disable the Biotouch.exe (a simple trick by renaming activesynkiller.exe to Biotouch.exe) And install Manila2D on my own -> use the beta 18 version.
And on fresh restart, I get 69MB free memory. After hours of usage, I still get 60MB free memory.

No answer but another question
IGO 6 & 8 not working while Manila is active, must disable the Manila and reset to launch IGO
if I minimize IGO and start Manila and return back to IGO it working with no problem
is it another memory problem or what ???