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BBC iPlayer on HTC Touch HD

Can anyone confirm if BBCiPlayer is compatible with Opera 9.5.
I'm a Nokia n95 8gb user, soon to return to WM when Expansys deliver my early Christmas/late birthday present.
Wouldnt it be soo cool to watch bbc iplayer on this baby!!

Same Here
I am returning back to my WM. I had an iPhone, used for two weeks but did not like it, too complicated, so gone for sale.. now I am returning to my WM and just order my new Touch HD from expansys today. Window mobile are much easy to use and simply the best. I like to see HTC add more useful features on this new Touch HD before final release.

Waiting Time
Thats great. I hope you don't have to wait too long being you just preordered recently.
I know many at xda-dev forum ( including myself ) and elsewhere have been on that one form of preordering list since the phone was made official.
I hope Expansys don't keep everyone waiting too long after they get stock.

not bothered about it running on the touch to be honest (have a kaiser)
but i'm surprised theres little talk about getting iplayer working properly on windows mobile in general .
i've heard that opera and flash works, but i cant get it working at all
can anyone (surely someone in the know must do) confirm/deny if it is at all possible?

thefunkygibbon said:
not bothered about it running on the touch to be honest (have a kaiser)
but i'm surprised theres little talk about getting iplayer working properly on windows mobile in general .
i've heard that opera and flash works, but i cant get it working at all
can anyone (surely someone in the know must do) confirm/deny if it is at all possible?
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Yes. I Second that. iPlayer is as much a killer app to me as youtube.
Am I the only one who is keen to use their mobile to watch the BEEB ?

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Yeah I'm massive I Player fan. I used to listen to 5Live every morning in the bathroom with my Wizard and Wifi. I think the Beeb changed something as it suddenly stopped working with Realplayer 1.
I am surprised its taking this long to get a solution for WM for I player. I have just moved to a Diamond and will move to a Touch HD later next year.
I hope anyone doing searches for IPhone apps comes across our discussions about an I-Player... !

I believe the HD has crossed the seas and is now in the UK, well the preview batch anyways..
Could anyone that has the HD confirm if it works with the BEEB ??

born_2_code said:
I believe the HD has crossed the seas and is now in the UK, well the preview batch anyways..
Could anyone that has the HD confirm if it works with the BEEB ??
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strange, as the HD has been delayed until the middle of november.

Raziel1 said:
strange, as the HD has been delayed until the middle of november.
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Just reviewing stock status across a number of suppliers - seems the release date in the UK has been brought forward to the 7th November - maybe even sooner! Both Play and Expansys have revised "ready to ship" dates?
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I have spoken to a friend at orange who says they have sHD stock arriving today for sale on Monday 3rd. He has be saying this all week and is a very reliable source.

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Could anyone that has the HD confirm if it works with the BEEB ??
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I have a HD on order from Handtec.com and should have it on the 12th (or earlier) - I already have the Raphael and have been testing on a regular basis with Opera 9.5 and the latest Flash release - there was some improvement but its still not actually showing the streaming video?
As far as I'm aware there is still no i-Player codec for either Core Player or Windows Media Player. I think that the issue is one for the BBC to resolve rather than a hardware problem (i.e. once it works it will work on all Win Mob Pro phones that can show video?)
So..... unless HTC have a new Opera version just for the HD (Possible) or have negotiated with the BBC (As Apple have - Unlikely???) to allow the content only on the HD then I think we'll have to wait for the BBC (Aunty for the older Brits on here) to step up and provide either a codec or dedicated mobile player?
Hope my thoughts provide some help and guidance - and maybe spark some more debate?
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I've been trying for some hours today to get the streams from BBC Mobile working with little success.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/index.shtml
If I look at BBC mobile on my X7500 using explorer there is a link showing "Watch Live TV" I can then click on a channel which downloads a link and then launches Coreplayer which immediately complains that it can't do anything with it.
Anybody else had any joy?
Cheers
Matthew

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7459669.stm
Does that webpage and all its features work for any Touch HD users?

SingaporeAirlines said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7459669.stm
Does that webpage and all its features work for any Touch HD users?
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My Kaiser tells me that the content is only available in the UK but my computer through the same router is fine
why is this ????

SlashGear.com mentions content from the BBC iPlayer.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-touch-hd-video-demo-and-qa-3121040/
"Q. Can the Touch HD’s Opera browser play content from BBC iPlayer, Hulu or other streaming sites?
A. No. For instance, the iPlayer site loadsbut the streaming video component does not. There is a streaming video app, separate from the YouTube player, but that requires a specific url to load".

Jezwick said:
My Kaiser tells me that the content is only available in the UK but my computer through the same router is fine
why is this ????
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Oh of course - BBC NEWS 24 is a UK only channel as it's paid by us TV License payers. And no one in the UK on this forum seems to have the Touch HD so it wouldn't work.
D'oh !

I think it's just a matter of time before BBC iPlayer works on the Touch HD. They have expanded support for many smartphones and PMP's.

The issue from the BBC's point of view is simply demand - making Iplayer available for platforms like the ipod touch and Iphone is a no brainer since there are huge numbers of those devices in the UK, and their users are very much focussed on video and multimedia. With Windows Mobile the case isn't quite so clear - its users are in much smaller numbers for one, and many - perhaps the greater majority - are simply business users with no desire to watch TV on their mobile, and quite possibly inadequate hardware for the task in any case (since the vast majority of WinMo handsets are not high resolution, big screen devices like the HD). Realistically, the HD alone is not going to significantly advance the cause.

While I agree with you, it would be nice if the BBC used an open standard so any platform could watch their shows. Nothing to do with the HD except more devices like this will mean maybe it will become an issue.

Kangburra said:
While I agree with you, it would be nice if the BBC used an open standard so any platform could watch their shows. Nothing to do with the HD except more devices like this will mean maybe it will become an issue.
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Sure, but they have to protect their copyright first and foremost - and ensure it's only license fee payers in the UK who get the benefit - so whatever platforms they support can't be too open.

Windows Mobile 7 announced for the HD ?

Hello all, Windows Mobile 7 is announced to be available this year. It seems that it will be a lot more "finger friendly". The Touch HD would fit it very well.
In fact, I'm currently a Kaiser owner, and I planned to buy a Touch HD but I'm a bit disapointed (as always with HTC !!!) about its graphical performances.
Touch HD owners still need to convert video files for the Touch HD to read them at a good speed ... A shame !!!! I had an Axim x50v 4 years ago which was able to read any VGA DivX without any convertion and it was really fast, no lags.
So I can deal with the bad video performances (I already do with my Kaiser ...) but I need a major change in the general usage of the device compared to my Kaiser.
That's why I would be glad to see Windows Mobile 7 announced for the Touch HD, it may be the thing which would decide me to buy a Touch HD.
Does anyone know if HTC plan to upgrade the Touch HD with Windows Mobile 7 when it will be available ?
Thanks !

Windows 7?
Where? I thought was delayed for 2010 and that they will release soon windows 6.5... Did I miss something

In fact Windows Mobile 8 was delayed for 2010 (and maybe later !). What I read so far is that Windows Mobile 7 should be available in the middle of 2009.
EDIT : New news -> you're right, wm 6.5 announced to come before 7 ... 7 delayed for 2010 ...

dizzy33 said:
In fact Windows Mobile 8 was delayed for 2010 (and maybe later !). What I read so far is that Windows Mobile 7 should be available in the middle of 2009.
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what you read is incorrect. WM7 is for 2010, Q4 of 2009 at the EARLIEST. and to your original question. WM7 may require a different set of hardware to be completely finger friendly, ie no more resistive touch screen. but that's not to say people here can't hack it and port it to a legacy product (ie. touch HD) by the time WM7 comes out

About the date for WM 7, take a look at my EDIT section in my previous post ...
I've already noticed it changed, but thanks anyway ...
About the hardware, I'm not sure it may need a different hardware because it is said that Microsoft developped an application which use the camera as a G-Sensor ... So they may do their best for this O.S. to be compatible with old style hardware ...
So now the question is : will HTC offer a WM 6.5 upgrade for the Touch HD ... Not sure cause it may be there too late ...

Hm, i think the 6.5 will be published in Spring/Summer 09, so it could be possible.
Greets
John

i think htc will offer a update cause t-mobile will release the HD with android so they have to do sth for satisfy the customers with win mobile

kerni said:
i think htc will offer a update cause t-mobile will release the HD with android so they have to do sth for satisfy the customers with win mobile
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Where did u see this.

And sorry to take the air out your balloon
Turb0wned said:
Where did u see this.
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Fact:
He totaly made that up, there have been some renderings of what the G2 MAY look like and many people took it upon themselves to photoshop The Beast running the Android OS. Don't get your hopes up.
(My) Sepculation:
You'll probably see the G1 come out with 5 more colors, and 10 more OTAs before you ever find out what a G2 looks like.
Sources:
http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948774282
Not to mention that HTC specifically said that they did not manufacture the Black Stone with a radio module supporting the US 3G frequencies. So I doubt T-Mobile would Market any device going foward as running on G2/Edge
I hope you find this helpful (And sorry to take the air out your balloon)

dizzy33 said:
I'm not sure it may need a different hardware because it is said that Microsoft developped an application which use the camera as a G-Sensor
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Hmm. Camera tracking applications kill the battery _very_ quickly and obviously don't work in bad light conditions or against blank surfaces with no pattern.
The HD has a g-sensor anyway, so that shouldn't be an issue.

i've also read on numerous websites that theres the chance that t-mobile may be running android on touch HD.
also the HD is definitly coming out on t-mobile in the next 2 months

dizzy33 said:
About the date for WM 7, take a look at my EDIT section in my previous post ...
I've already noticed it changed, but thanks anyway ...
About the hardware, I'm not sure it may need a different hardware because it is said that Microsoft developped an application which use the camera as a G-Sensor ... So they may do their best for this O.S. to be compatible with old style hardware ...
So now the question is : will HTC offer a WM 6.5 upgrade for the Touch HD ... Not sure cause it may be there too late ...
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the time stamp sais your last edit was after my post. but regarding the hardware difference: microsoft never specifies the HW requirement to end customers because we don't get to purchase the OS. they do specify to the manufactures of the phones. it's the same reason why your PC hardware requirement changes for Windows 2000 and Windows Vista. I'm sure you can some what run Vista on a machine built for Win 2K, but your experience will be limited. So I was just saying that some hackers here can port the WM7 to Touch HD, even though Touch HD is not designated to run WM7.
Requirement wise, I am _speculating_ that it will need a better CPU/graphics chip, amongst other things. the current Qualcomm chip 's graphic capability just plain sucks, the CPU power also isn't the best. Horse power by horsepower, a Qualcomm 500 MHz is much slower than a Marvel/Intel PXA 500 Mhz. I believe WM7 will have more graphics requirement: here's my logic:
- Up till WM6.1 (possibly 6.5), the max resolution supported is 800x480 (which is ok), but he color depth is only 65000, which is low. Iphone supports 262000, i'm sure MS will be going after at least that.
- ever since phones/PDA moved form QVGA to VGA and WVGA, the graphics suffered, and understandbly so. though not microsoft's fault directly. people started saying "my WM phone/PDA is slow" and put the blame on MS. So MS will be clearing their name and restricting manufactures from putting their OS on a non-suitable device
so the above two points just to show you in the graphics department there may be a HW requirement. can you run it on a phone that doesn't fit the requirement? suuuuure, just that the experience won't be as good.
and finally, the news yesterday confirmed my suspicious is that HTC just dumped Qualcomm (not 100% dump though) as the sole CPU/chip provider due to their performance. Given that a product stays in incubation (for prototyping QA, testing, beta, etc etc) for 6 to 8 month before it hits the market. I believe HTC is prototyping the new devices with WM6.5 and perhaps even WM7, and found the performance with Qualcomm chip lacking. hence hardware requirement.

Site your sources.
adsno_1 said:
i've also read on numerous websites that theres the chance that t-mobile may be running android on touch HD.
also the HD is definitly coming out on t-mobile in the next 2 months
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I don't mean to be rude, but what part don't you understand that the the Touch HD has hardware limitation not allowing it to take advantage of US 3G frequencies
If you read my previous post you'll see an official announcement from HTC themselves supporting my comment.
The HTC will not see the light of day in the United States, In the US there are 2 GSM Carriers ATT and T-Mobile
ATT won't relesase because it directly competes (and probably breeches) their contract with Apple
And, when was the last time you seen T-Mobile release a beefy smartphone, the smartest phone they have is the Wing, and that's a joke in terms of Harware.
Site your sources before you make such claims sir.

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also the HD is definitly coming out on t-mobile in the next 2 months
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That comment is a joke, where are you sources.

I guess there are a lot of Wishful thinkers on this thread.

fnordelus said:
I don't mean to be rude, but what part don't you understand that the the Touch HD has hardware limitation not allowing it to take advantage of US 3G frequencies
And, when was the last time you seen T-Mobile release a beefy smartphone, the smartest phone they have is the Wing, and that's a joke in terms of Harware.
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What makes you think he is talking about the US market? There are other countries out there you know
I was told by around 5 people from T-Mob UK retentions that it was in the testing phase, and they could offer it to me around March. This could possibly have been conjecture to try and get me to stay, but if you look at the link below, you will see a trend.
As an aside, T-Mob UK have released all major "beefy" smartphones. - http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/phones/pay-monthly/all/all/

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What makes you think he is talking about the US market? There are other countries out there you know
I was told by around 5 people from T-Mob UK retentions that it was in the testing phase, and they could offer it to me around March. This could possibly have been conjecture to try and get me to stay, but if you look at the link below, you will see a trend.
As an aside, T-Mob UK have released all major "beefy" smartphones. - http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/phones/pay-monthly/all/all/
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You're absolutely right, that's my bad!
I actually did forget that T-Mobile is outside of the US, please excuse my stroke of ignorance.
I feel extra stupid because I actually have a German-T-Mobile Branded MDA Pro that I had to replace the keyboard for (to a qwerty keybord)
Me <---- Fail!

Schooleydoo said:
What makes you think he is talking about the US market? There are other countries out there you know
I was told by around 5 people from T-Mob UK retentions that it was in the testing phase, and they could offer it to me around March. This could possibly have been conjecture to try and get me to stay, but if you look at the link below, you will see a trend.
As an aside, T-Mob UK have released all major "beefy" smartphones. - http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/phones/pay-monthly/all/all/
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Aditionally, you're double right!
Becuase T-Mobile UK does have a history of releasing beefy smarthphones, I just got my ass handed to me.
When it comes to mobile devices (my passion) it SUCKS to be an American.
Everytime I wip out my BlackStone, or even my XDA iis I get some ****-head who says "is that an iPhone?" or even worse "Is that an iPhone imitation?"
So, again, excuse my stroke of ignorance.

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Everytime I wip out my BlackStone, or even my XDA iis I get some ****-head who says "is that an iPhone?"
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HAHA oh man I get the same thing all the time!
The annoying thing is it's surprisingly hard to say "HTC Touch HD" properly coherantly without sounding weird due to the cacophony of hard syllables!
Something interesting to note about WiMo 6.5 and the Touch HD is in reference to Pocket Internet Explorer 6. Microsoft have stated that their new mobile browser won't be released for use on any device due to hardware limitations of current devices - but there HAS been a ROM released by a microsoft developer for the Touch HD ONLY that DOES include the new Pocket IE...
My theory is that 6.5 will be held by microsoft for use on higher spec future handsets only, but the Touch HD will be allowed a possibly semi-official update. (maybe in the guise of a ROM by a microsoft developer like PIE6)
Something else to bear in mind, the Hermes was in mid life cycle when WiMo6 was released and HTC duly released a free upgrade from the pre-existing version 5 so there's a possibility they might do something similar for the HD.
All speculation and hope of course...

Here are some images of what WM7 might look like. Check out the Word 2007 picture. It looks like it has a lot of menu options.
http://cybernetnews.com/2008/01/07/windows-mobile-7-images-leaked/

WM 6.5 is a tip of an iceberg called Zune!

some time ago I saw a thread about discussions on how the Windows Mobile 6.5 and/or 7 would be like and I mentioned that it looked like Microsoft was trying to keep everything in the family as the menu looked exactly like the Zune's. None replied.
For those who are not aware, Zune is the Microsoft's media player which is available only in the US and Canada but you can pretty much buy it anywhere through eBay - that's how I got mine, a black 80GB one, which I love. zune's got wifi and the ability to access its marketplace through any wifi spot, big deal :-| the good thing about zune is that, if you want, it will store your plays and update automatically. quite good for social environments.
Xbox 360's dashboard is now Zune styled with a touch of 3D but the concept is the same, a menu, scrolling up and down and inside the item you go to the right to see more options. the menu itself is located at the left side of the screen.
and here it comes: Zune TV.
very slowly and purposedly making it look clumsy to observers, microsoft is building a massive entertainment network and to have the best of it, you will find yourself taking the whole family.
this article got me thinking and you'll get the reason i posted it here by reading it. some discussing about it?
http://www.hdtv-news.co.uk/2009/03/02/microsoft-plans-for-a-zune-tv/

SlakerBoi said:
some time ago I saw a thread about discussions on how the Windows Mobile 6.5 and/or 7 would be like and I mentioned that it looked like Microsoft was trying to keep everything in the family as the menu looked exactly like the Zune's. None replied.
For those who are not aware, Zune is the Microsoft's media player which is available only in the US and Canada but you can pretty much buy it anywhere through eBay - that's how I got mine, a black 80GB one, which I love. zune's got wifi and the ability to access its marketplace through any wifi spot, big deal :-| the good thing about zune is that, if you want, it will store your plays and update automatically. quite good for social environments.
Xbox 360's dashboard is now Zune styled with a touch of 3D but the concept is the same, a menu, scrolling up and down and inside the item you go to the right to see more options. the menu itself is located at the left side of the screen.
and here it comes: Zune TV.
very slowly and purposedly making it look clumsy to observers, microsoft is building a massive entertainment network and to have the best of it, you will find yourself taking the whole family.
this article got me thinking and you'll get the reason i posted it here by reading it. some discussing about it?
http://www.hdtv-news.co.uk/2009/03/02/microsoft-plans-for-a-zune-tv/
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This would be a welcomed advancement if 6.5 was to include zune

Don't forget the Windows Media Center menu
Since the very first version (2004 I think), you have a scrolling list, and in the selected item in the list, 2 or more options... just like the WM6.5 menu

lpaso said:
Don't forget the Windows Media Center menu
Since the very first version (2004 I think), you have a scrolling list, and in the selected item in the list, 2 or more options... just like the WM6.5 menu
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exactly! for some reason I forgot the almost forgettable Windows Media Center.
these guys really know what they're doing despite looking like they're the losers far behind Apple and this kinda of scares me to be honest. lolololol

i fear we'll have to wait for win7 to turn the page
and god knows if it will run ok on our hd

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i fear we'll have to wait for win7 to turn the page
and god knows if it will run ok on our hd
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By the time windows 7 comes out, the HD will be a long lost memory.

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By the time windows 7 comes out, the HD will be a long lost memory.
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i thought that too but im starting to believe otherwise. i think the HD is such a good piece of hardware that it will stay for a long time like the hermes. to be honest i am more interested in the developments of Android on HD than 6.5 itself. from what ive seen so far, 6.5 is the 6.1 with a new facelift which doesn't really make my mind.
days ago i was in the bus and there was this guy sitting next to me, he had an iphone and although i know the iphone very well as i used to sell it, this time it got me impressed how smooth and responsive it is. HD has a great hardware but even with all the tweaks we could possibly imagine to add it still just ok but not excellent and this thanks to Windows Mobile 6.1.
if you think about it, that's microsoft main problem: they can't innovate at all but they're great when it comes to improve someone else's idea. they developed windows mobile based on the concepts of those very old monochrome screen PDAs like Newton and Palm, to be used with a Stylus, and it wasn't even supposed to have phone capabilities but they added it later. they never realized that touchscreen would be the future and people would prefer to use their fingers rather than a little thing we keep losing... look what's happening now...

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i thought that too but im starting to believe otherwise. i think the HD is such a good piece of hardware that it will stay for a long time like the hermes. to be honest i am more interested in the developments of Android on HD than 6.5 itself. from what ive seen so far, 6.5 is the 6.1 with a new facelift which doesn't really make my mind.
days ago i was in the bus and there was this guy sitting next to me, he had an iphone and although i know the iphone very well as i used to sell it, this time it got me impressed how smooth and responsive it is. HD has a great hardware but even with all the tweaks we could possibly imagine to add it still just ok but not excellent and this thanks to Windows Mobile 6.1.
if you think about it, that's microsoft main problem: they can't innovate at all but they're great when it comes to improve someone else's idea. they developed windows mobile based on the concepts of those very old monochrome screen PDAs like Newton and Palm, to be used with a Stylus, and it wasn't even supposed to have phone capabilities but they added it later. they never realized that touchscreen would be the future and people would prefer to use their fingers rather than a little thing we keep losing... look what's happening now...
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Still think it will disappear into the horizon. With new models coming out from other manufacturuers all the time and a reported new HTC device coming out to replace the HD with 8MP camera and win6.5, I think I will forget the HD easily enough. My only concern is that HTC need to make a better improvement with each new release. Too many phones released with no real great improvement between each model.

I've always wanted an Apple product....

But I've never bought one! Every time Apple come out with a new product I want to rush out and get one. Then, I don't. This has happened for the iPod, Apple TV, iPhone, new iPod, Mac, etc. There is always some limitation that is a deal breaker (and the high prices). With the iPhone, it is locked to AT&T or O2 or whoever. Take it overseas and your going to be paying incredible roaming fees. You can buy an unlocked 3GS in Europe (Italy) but it costs around $1100 (that is US dollars) and you probably won't find one without a contract. It won't play xvid/divx etc. The Apple TV looks awesome. Ahh, but you're locked in to iTunes and supported formats are not that great. The iPod Touch - wow, that looks fantastic. But I keep having to pay for upgrades? And it's not a phone? It just goes on an on.
So I went out and bought the HTC Hero. I absolutely love this thing. I'm not saying it is perfect, but there are only a few faults so far. Once I turned off that silly clock on the home screen it became quite snappy. The browser is amazing. Bookmarks are easy to access, though I wish you could do it with a finger swipe. Or at least cycle through open pages that way. Integration with Google accounts (maps, gmail, contacts) is fantastic. The maps work great with both GPS and just the cell tower information. Using Google street view and sky is really cool. The device knows its orientation at all times. Enable compass mode in street view and when you face North, the phone will show you that view. Turn in a circle, it will follow. I bet Google will eventually do turn by turn and 3D navigation. Why not? They'll make loads of money on it. The PDF reader is actually very useful. Since the Hero did not come with a manual, I downloaded the manual (all 220 pages) and actually skimmed it very easily with the PDF reader! That was amazing. Come to find out, the manual was actually on the included SD card, but there was no file manager to access it (but there is an app!) Now maybe this phone is so awesome because I'm getting ~4mbps throughput (yes, throughput) with my HSDPA connection....but it works pretty good on Edge too. The Wifi antenna is reasonable for the size of the phone, though my laptop usually gets a stronger signal. The ability to switch from the Sense UI to the normal Adroid environment sweet. I don't know why they have to still call it Touch Flo though. That is just confusing (but I can deal with it!). Start up time (boot) for the Hero is abysmal. I have not timed it but probably on the order of 1 minute. Hope you don't need to call the hospital or something. Have no idea how the iPhone compares. My solution, just leave the phone on.
The day after I bought the phone I set it next to my friends iPhone. I thought, ohh no! His screen is much bigger. This is going to be a train wreck. After a week, I much prefer the Hero size screen. It is so much easier using with one hand. I can type and browse fairly easily with one hand. Plus, when you actually use the Hero as a phone (to your ear) you don't look like you're talking into a small TV. It fits in my pocket much better than the iPhone. Still looking for a really good case that protects and is small. I do wish the "back" button was on the other side of the phone as it is a bit awkward. I guess the designer was a lefty. I can deal with that. The build quality is quite nice, though the back panel is quite flimsy. I hope they sell replacements because it is going to break sometime.
HTC Hero, what I always really wanted my Dell Axim X51v to be.

clobber said:
..... I do wish the "back" button was on the other side of the phone as it is a bit awkward. I guess the designer was a lefty. I can deal with that....
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... bought mine couple a days ago, when breaking my Diamond.
just to say: I love the "hero". and as Im "lefty" I love it even more...
Now just waiting for decent outlook calendar syncing program (funambol) for android to be ready and good offline navigation option, as usually I need navigation when out in foreign country and roaming fees are quite high then.
P.S. I will never go back to WM... never ...

Another satisfied Hero customer here as well And I second the WM opinion, I had a XDA Exec for years - and although the hardware was good the OS just ruined it!

clobber said:
You can buy an unlocked 3GS in Europe (Italy) but it costs around $1100 (that is US dollars) and you probably won't find one without a contract. It won't play xvid/divx etc.
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Do you have an android divx player? Link please!

Kudos to the thread starter, I agree completely!
Hear hear(o)!

I had the iPhone 3g , good phone loved it , but I hated apple , their restriction have ruined it for me , I felt like if I was renting it and not actually owning the thing , but over all good phone .

You're right. I don't see a divx/xvid player yet.

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You're right. I don't see a divx/xvid player yet.
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You had my hopes up.

guys ... what should i say ... i was WM usr for years ... and tested one interface after the other (wisbar advanced desktop, touch flo 2d manilla, and so on)
but this here (YES I GOT A HERO, TOO) is just awesome... will be a hard fight for microsoft to bring me back ... (maybee windows mobile 7 - we will see)
but this phone is the best i ever had my hands on ... and i'm workin for a big german provider, so i touched much phones
LOVING THE HERO

TVCatchup...

My mates iphone can go to this site and stream tv in good quality. In case you havnt seen/heard of it yet...its proper uk tv not those ****ty internet streams that have...lets be honest nothing on ever!
Any ideas?
http://www.tvcatchup.com/
(TVCatchup has channels like bbc, bb2, bb3, itv, c4, e4 etc)

seems like skyfire is the only solution just now (just read some some hd2 users saying it works well with wifi)

fracmo2000 said:
seems like skyfire is the only solution just now (just read some some hd2 users saying it works well with wifi)
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I am playing it on my HD2 using Skyfire over 3G and even though is is straight from the website, the picture is not that bad ;-D

just seen your post man, Im still struggling to get this working. It "does play" in skyfire...but wow it is buggy as hell. Even over wifi (on my new hd2 )
It plays 100% on my mates gheyphone...which winds me up a little haha
I have nrgs rom installed which uses opera 10...but i read that you can use opera 9.7 with a flash fix...I wonder if that will make tvcatchup work with with opera rather than skyfire?
AAARRRGGHGHGHGHGHGHGHHGHGH

btw, sign up to the forum and show intrested in a windows mobile support/app
the more the better!

SPB TV, bro.

i seen that and another mobitv...but they seem to have the worst selection of tv channels
the weather
news
the wether
more news
some weather
are they any good? have you checked out tvcatchup...got it working on skyfire via wifi...3g is no use (at least in my area). it seems they made a specific app/page for iphone users...the stream is prob tailored to their device/resolution...half the size of the hd2 (?) so it will look/stream a lot better over 3g (or at least this is what i think?)

Tv catchup
May i suggest to all of you to forgrt Tvcatchup
try
www.yamgo.com
is best
tv catchup people dont like windows mobile thats why they have made it for iphone

Thankyou! Yamgo is brilliant! Far far better than TVcatchup

at45 said:
Thankyou! Yamgo is brilliant! Far far better than TVcatchup
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As one of the Admin of TVCatchup let's face the facts:
http://m.tvcatchup.com/ has 28 freeview channels, for most phones including Windows Mobile 6.0 + Yamgo has 4.
Yamgo's quality is like watching something from the 60's, that is allowing for bandwidth problems as well. TVC has it's own optimised page offering low and high quality options.
Yamgo spam everything and make false twitter and facebook accounts and generally pee off everyone. We never spam and have built our membership by word of mouth and reputation.
We have open and free help forums that deal with issues right away, I once sent a support email to Yamgo and got a response four days later.
Sounds petty I know but we are trying to provide a service par excellence and of course I am biased, but it peeves you off with shafters like this.
Rant over !