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Someone Help Please!!

So, I have an 8525, newest rom from Cingular/HTC, and a few apps.
The apps I am running are as follows:
SPB Pocket Plus
SPB Mobile Shell
SPB Diary
VibraSwitch
Device Lock
Jetware BT Fix
Clear Temp
and a few other irrelevant ones.
Anyways, I have the Device Lock mapped to the Comm Mgr button. So, I lock the device, and power off the screen. When I go to wake up the device, Instead of the usual unlock in the bottom right of the screen, first I get Password, so I hit it, then I have to hit unlock, then unlock again as normal....
Any suggestions? I have never set a password on this device, so I dont know why all of a sudden it is prompting me for it.
Thanks,
John

Same thing happened to me when I installed Shell on my touch.

that's wierd. I had the trial version for a while, then got the full version, and only started with the full version. Never happened when I had the trial version.

Do a so called hard reset:
Press and hold the Left SOFT KEY and Right SOFT KEY, and at the same time, use the stylus to press the RESET button at the bottom of your device. You will be presented with a menu saying 'press R to reset, X to exit', if you press R Your device will be set back to factory default settings.
(The L/R soft keys are the "--" keys just up the start and OK buttons)
This should do the trick!

Hermes 100 (8525 Cingular) (WM6 Flashed) Won't except PASSWORD
Hi all! I'm a new member here so the help is greatly appreciated.
So here's the deal. I just recently got married while doing the last minute prep for the big day my hermes 8525 decides to get devil possesed on me.
It started a few days before. Sometimes losing radio connection and other times locking up right after a call was completed but not fully ended. It was OK I guessed since I was able to powerdown and restart (remove the battery) and resume "normal" use.
BUT on the day before the wedding, That lil @#$% decides to lockup one last time and after a power down (removing battery) and restarting the unit, I was prompted to enter the password (as usual), BUT this time after entering my password for access, like I always do, I got the response stating that my password was not entered in correctly. AAAARRRRRGH! NO WAY! but yes way. The worst has struck.
After searching my ARSE off looking for a solution the best I came acress was a "hard reset". Another AAAARRRRGH!
From what I understand this would wipe off all my data. This would really hurt since I had recently entered many long lost (over 10 years) family members contact info that I was finally able to track down.
So, I'm reaching out to this community for something... anything that would HELP!!!
How can I get into my phone and get my contacts back???
TIA
I really appreciate any help on this one!
NEAR TEARS!

Still Stuck
THanks for the replies and the suggestion for the HARD RESET which I'm finding very hard to DO! Not that I can not just that I CAN"T!
I've been talking with an HTC tech in the hopes that this issue can get a better resolution than NUKE'n all my data. Didn't hear from him last night, guess he's still diggin for a solution. I'll have to call him in the morning. Hopefully he has figured out something.
Thanks Again ALL!!!

***Need help ** *Device was locked - any idea how to open

My device has been working perfectly till suddenly & without any early notice the device has been locked with some kind of locking.
After reset the device goes into the locked status showed in the pictures, no option to do hard reset,
Tried all options, seems like one of the keys is defective and that’s why can’t perform hard reset.
The device is locked and the 90 minutes limit don’t go down, you can’t do anything.
However if there is a incoming call, you see it on the screen and you can answer the call.
Does anyone familiar with this lock screen ? how do i pass it & relase the device? please advise & help me ....

This is the password protection built into all versions of windows CE. (accesed form control panel/personal/security (or something like that, may vary with OS versions). It has options to lock the device after switching it off (going to sleep mode is considered switching off too), or after the device is not used for a given period of time. The whole point of this protection is to prevent unauthorized access to the device, so i think that without the password you're screwed
Did someone play with your phone before that happened? Maybe it was a "joke" by one of your friends? If you never set the password, anyone can enter the password settings applet and enable it. That's why it's always a good idea to set the password, even if you don't plan to use it -it is also required to enter security settings...
So, if you really want to HR, first of all make sure that one of the buttons is really defective - I just checked and you can't turn off the device by holding the power button when it's loched - this might be your problem. So try holding the comm manager and voice command buttons and press reset button on the side (keep the side buttons pressed until you get the "reset to factory defaults" question)
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If that doesn't work, try checking if the device connects to activesync when it's locked. It shouldn't happen, since it would be a possible security hole, but knowing microsoft...
If it does you might try to flash its ROM (of course you would lose all your data).
And if it does not and one of the buttons really is defective you might have to disassemble the device in order to do a HR (by shorting the switches' contacts with some metal object), but i wouldn't do this if you don't have some experience with electronics, since you might damage the phone if it's not handled properly with case removed. It might be easier to go to a GSM repair shop and have the switch replaced.

itzik-g said:
My device has been working perfectly till suddenly & without any early notice the device has been locked with some kind of locking.
After reset the device goes into the locked status showed in the pictures, no option to do hard reset,
Tried all options, seems like one of the keys is defective and that’s why can’t perform hard reset.
The device is locked and the 90 minutes limit don’t go down, you can’t do anything.
However if there is a incoming call, you see it on the screen and you can answer the call.
Does anyone familiar with this lock screen ? how do i pass it & relase the device? please advise & help me ....
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Forget all that password bs. Lock your device with this rogram. Unlock by pressing both soft keys at the same time.

Locked, but password wont work.

Ok, I have an AT&T 8525 version. It's been upgraded to WM6 using the official patch, and the only other thing I had running on it was SPB shell trial version or something. I set a lock password, where when ever you turned the screen on you had to enter a password to access the device. With the Shell trial thingie it would actually give you the clock first, which was why I was trying it.
Now, my problem is this. I'm an idiot and my phone got dunked in water. I took it apart, well, took the battery out, SIM card, etc, anything I could get out without dismantling the whole phone. Took compressed air and blew on it until my can froze up and I had to surgerically remove my fingers from the can o' air (ok, exaggeration there). Anyways, if I call the phone, it rings and does what it needs to. The problem is that I can't unlock the stupid phone now. I'm not forgetting the number, it just won't accept it. I'm up to 8 mins of wait time before I can reenter it as well.
So, my question, is there a way to break the lock code without destroying the data on the phone? If no, how do I reset the phone completely? Do I have to do a hard reset? Can I take it to AT&T to get them to reset it?
And one big question, does the reset go past WM6 and revert to WM5?
Thanks all.

anything, anyone?

Just having the same problem myself.
Didn't dunk in water, but found wi-fi was locking up so did a soft reset with the sylus in the reset hole and when it rebooted, it would not accept the password.
Apperently, this is a common fault with WM6 where if you reset (or lose power whilst settings are in cache memory) the phone 'forgets' your password.
Maybe this is what has happened to yours - the only way round it is a hard reset.

Must be a "feature" not a bug.
*sigh*
Makes me pretty hesitant on ever using the feature again. I'm having serious issues trying to get it back to Syncing w/ my desktop and letting me access the device as a folder. Right now it's just powering up but nothing else.

How to reset the password
Ive just updated my rom to wm6 2days ago. Now im having the same problem...my device was set to auto off after 3min then when turned on... password prompt...i know the password...but was not accepted. Tried to re-flash wm6 but nothing happened. Anyone plsss help!!!! Thank you very much in advance!
Unit: XDA IIs,WM6 from Helmi & etc (thnk u very much guys ...u know who u r)

Re below post...hard reset did not reset the password tnx anyway
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"Just having the same problem myself.
Didn't dunk in water, but found wi-fi was locking up so did a soft reset with the sylus in the reset hole and when it rebooted, it would not accept the password.
Apperently, this is a common fault with WM6 where if you reset (or lose power whilst settings are in cache memory) the phone 'forgets' your password.
Maybe this is what has happened to yours - the only way round it is a hard reset."

maria_terie said:
Re below post...hard reset did not reset the password tnx anyway
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"Just having the same problem myself.
Didn't dunk in water, but found wi-fi was locking up so did a soft reset with the sylus in the reset hole and when it rebooted, it would not accept the password.
Apperently, this is a common fault with WM6 where if you reset (or lose power whilst settings are in cache memory) the phone 'forgets' your password.
Maybe this is what has happened to yours - the only way round it is a hard reset."
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Hard reset worked for me. Only issue now is I can't get it to allow me to explore the device any more. It'll sync emails, etc, but won't let me access the device while connected to the USB.
The WM6 I used was the official version, not sure if that's a difference.

Unable to unlock device

Hello,
Wondering if someone can help me, i have a very strange problem indeed!
I've just rest my device and when it came up with the Unlock screen to type in my unlock code (4 digits) I can press the buttons on the screen, and the code is typed in, but when I come to press any of the unlock buttons, they do the physical depress animation but it's as though they are not registering the click event.
This is on Mirri WM6.5 rom.
Any help would be appreciated, I also tried to use MyMobiler to use my mouse to try and do it, but as I last used it as Mass Storage, it won't connect as I can't get to set it as ActiveSync.
*Edit - Further update, if I dial 999, I can correctly press the cancel button, which means it's not that portion of the screen which is obscured, it's just the unlock, contacts, mail buttons that are failing to unlock the device. I receive no error messages when typing incorrect codes either.
Could it be possible a program has changed my password?
Thanks in advance folks.
D.
** HARD RESET DEVICE **
Too business critical to keep messing about, please leave comments if you have any ideas incase this happens in future.

I severely doubt your password has been changed. If you are unable to press unlock, it may be worthwhile performing a hard reset to see if this fixes your problem. Obviously backup contacts, emails etc beforehand as you should still be able to do this.

Hi,
I was unable to do anything with the device, so had to hard reset.
As the device was locked upon startup, the only thing i got was the enter device unlock code screen.
I know the changed password is a strange idea, but can't think of anything else unless my device is actually knackered... just finished hard reset now.

THEAnarch1st said:
Hi,
I was unable to do anything with the device, so had to hard reset.
As the device was locked upon startup, the only thing i got was the enter device unlock code screen.
I know the changed password is a strange idea, but can't think of anything else unless my device is actually knackered... just finished hard reset now.
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Any joy after hard reset?

All seems to be working perfectly now, have lost a few days of txts since my last backup, but otherwise all up and running... very strange indeed!!
Thanks for checking back

Hard reset on HTC Ozone?

Hello to all,
I have the HTC Ozone from verizon... Recently I flashed the custom Windows Mobile 6.5 Rom onto the device and attempted to install my screen reader without much success. (yes... I have no vision.)
Now, the device boots up, but is frozen at the windows mobile splash screen. I can't seem to find a way to reset the device without it loading Windows mobile completely. When I plug it into my laptop, USB is not recognized.
Does anyone know a key combination I could use to reset the Ozone (at boot)? I used to have a Q but Enter with the end key does not work anymore - and the user manuals only talk of using the "clear storage" option in system tools.
Any help is appreciated.
With all due respect-
Tomi

did u hardSPL ur device?
u gotta start there..sounds like you didnt tho. Theres another member whos in ur shoes at the moment, who himself didnt read the instructions.

yeah... I knew of hard spl, and it ran to 100%. But I guess it didn't install. in the end I had to go to verizon and they replaced the phone - however I will not be flashing another cooked rom until we get a signed stock ozone vzw rom.. Or generic.
I was told on another thread here that holding down the volume down key + send +end will put the device in reset mode, and that's true. However even that didn't help, my rom was prob gone.
-Tomi

You can do a Clear Storage from bootloader by turning off the device. While holding volume DOWN key and SEND key, power on the device. Follow the prompts.
If that doesn't do it, it's bricked.

hmm. there used to be a forum topic filled with stock roms (they still required hard spl) but I can't find it... Is it still up? the files were on mediafire.

Bricked by password utility
Maybe this deserves it's own thread but I may have found a way to brick an HTC Ozone by setting and removing the password.
I got the phone 4 days ago and after messing around with the installed applications and finding some of them lacking I looked at alternatives. First I installed a version of Keypass for WinMo6.1 smartphones (the beta version since the older version doesn't support smart phones) and the basic functionality seems to work fine. Then I then I tried to install Opera Mini but there appears to be no JVM on this phone so the install file was not recognized by Windows. Then I tried UCWEB and ended up uninstalling it after a few frustrating moments trying to get it to open any page other than the UCWEB home page. So I removed UCWEB and installed Skyfire. Unfortunately I didn't install the latest version and foolishly clicked on the update button when Skyfire started up. The update feature appears to be broken and it leaves you with a Skyfire that won't run and won't uninstall. After a few hours searching for solutions and trying various options I gave up and did a hard reset from the OS. This appeared to work fine and since it was late I went to bed. I should mention that all of the 3rd party apps were installed to a 2GB micro SD card and that I took the card and SIM out when I did the hard reset.
The next day when I powered up the phone I got a screen with colored bars, which I remember reading was a boot loader screen. The phone had appeared to reset properly the night before but I didn't do more than scroll through the home screen before powering it off with the end button. From the boot loader screen I had to pull the battery to shut down but when I powered it up again things seemed fine. I installed the Google maps application (highly recommended), downloaded and installed latest version of Skyfire and installed the Google search application and everything seemed to be fine. I decided that I should try out the password lock feature and set an eight character alphanumeric password with two special characters and two capital letters. I used it for the rest of the day to surf the web, send some texts and plot driving paths with Google maps. I found the password lock a bit annoying but never had a problem unlocking after the device went into standby or after I shut it down. That night I downloaded a couple of largish (150 MB or so) MP3 audiobooks from netlibrary.com but couldn't play them with the included Windows Media Player. Despite having MP3 extensions WMP wouldn't open them and clicking WMP from the start menu appeared to do nothing. Then I tried to re install Keypass and got an insufficient memory message. I deleted some photos and a short video I'd taken with the phone software and did a soft reset (power cycle) but no joy. Unable to play my MP3 files or install keypass and getting the occasional memory warning I decided a hard reset was in order but waited until the next day.
The next morning, after the phone had charged all night, I decided to remove the annoying password lock and then shut down and restarted the phone in order to verify that the problems I'd had the previous day still existed. I navigated to the Security settings and unchecked the box about password protection then powered off the phone. When it came on again it asked for a password. Annoyed, I hit the soft key under the "UNLOCK" notification and keyed in the password I thought I had just disabled and got a screen that said "Alert The password you typed is incorrect." I'd seen this a few times before since my thumbs are not optimally sized for the keyboard so I entered the password a few more times taking care to get it exactly right. It seems that my password has been removed but the requirement to enter a password has not. I tried a blank password but it won't take one it just reiterates the UNLOCK prompt. I have the password written down, it's also a variation of one I've used a lot in the past, and I'd used it successfully dozens of times the previous day so the likelihood of my having "forgotten" it is pretty low. I called Verizon and after they suggested entering a blank password I tried again and reported the failure. Their only suggestion was a visit to a Verizon store to "re flash" the phone which I assume means reload the ROM image.
I found the hard reset suggestion below and tried it. I assume the DOWN key is the bottom D-Pad key and the SEND key is the green bracket key with the microphone icon to the left of the D-Pad. I tried holding the DOWN and SEND keys and hitting the power key until the HTC logo came up and the phone buzzed briefly and I tried holding the keys down until the phone booted to the UNLOCK screen but nothing changed the boot sequence. So I guess my phone is bricked and I'm on my way to the Verizon store shortly to see what they can do. I also noticed that the phone occasionally emits beeps for no apparent reason at random times while entering the unlock password. Also, there is an Alert message behind the UNLOCK icon that says "Alert There is not enough free space to download message. Please free up some space". I wonder if in my efforts to download a few hundred megabytes of MP3 files (audio books) I managed to clog the memory and that I can't unlock the phone because there is a memory logjam of some sort. While downloading the MP3 files I did have to kill Internet Explorer from the task manager a couple of times as it seemed like the download had hung and I couldn't find the downloaded file anywhere on the storage card or in system memory. I haven't installed anything to system memory and with a 2GB card I don't think I've come anywhere close to filling it up. I had about 500 MB in files on the SD card at one point but I deleted the extra install files and some other stuff I'd downloaded. When I put the SD card in a USB reader hooked to the PC I see 378 MB of files with 1.46 GB of free space.
I'm pretty convinced that the OS is buggy (it is Windows after all) and that I need to avoid the password utility and downloading large files until I figure out what the safe combinations of activities are.
Assuming they can resurrect the phone or give me a new one I'll try to set and clear my password at the store and see if that reproduces the problem.
Meanwhile I'd be interested in any sort of hardware based hard reset procedure that works with the Ozone since holding the green SEND button and Down D-Pad key while powering up does not work in this situation. Perhaps the fact that I can't power down and I have to remove the battery to shut the thing off is a problem but I would expect a hardware reset to work no matter what the state of the software is, even if the memory system were full of garbage. I guess designers have gotten away from dedicated reset buttons but software based hard reset mechanisms seem doomed to failure of the sort I am experiencing.
I'll report back my experience at the Verizon store when I get back. I suspect they won't be able to do much other than give me a new phone since I can't get the Active Sync software to even talk to the phone in this state. Maybe they have a lower level software tool to unbrick me; we'll see.
Max L.
ookba said:
You can do a Clear Storage from bootloader by turning off the device. While holding volume DOWN key and SEND key, power on the device. Follow the prompts.
If that doesn't do it, it's bricked.
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Wow.
Sorry, I got bored halfway through your discertation. However, I did note a mistake that you made.
Hard Reset: A guide for long-winded users.
Step 1: Power down the phone. If your phone is already powered down, you may skip this step. Note: Removing the battery, while technically powering down the phone, is not the correct method to make the following steps work.
Step 2: With your left hand, press and hold the VOLUME DOWN button that is located on the side of the phone. Continue pressing the VOLUME DOWN button and press the SEND button. With both the VOLUME DOWN and SEND button pressed, use your right hand to press the POWER button.
Step 3: A gray screen will appear asking you three options. Pressing the VOLUME UP button on the side of the phone will be the correct option to hard-reset your phone to ROM default.
Step 4: Press SEND to verify choice.
Step 5: Cuss loudly because you forgot to back up contacts, calendar, and email. (Optional: Crying like a little girl always makes things better.)
There you have it, a true hard-reset.
NOTE: The D-PAD is not Volume Control. Utilization of the D-Pad in this operation will result is user failure.

HTC Hard Reset from password lockout solved
I had managed to lock myself out of my phone by setting a password and then unchecking the password required box under the security settings and power cycling the phone when I got low memory alerts (see previous post).
I was able to hard reset my phone by removing then replacing the battery to power the phone down then holding the VOLUME DOWN button and SEND keys at the same time while pressing the power button to bring up a menu that allowed a hard reset. You can follow the menu prompts from there. If you power the phone down normally this still works but if you are locked out with a password you can't power down normally.
My lessons learned are:
1. To hard reset a password locked HTC Ozone hold VOLUME DOWN and SEND while powering up.
2. If you get a clueless Verizon rep call back later as they do have some helpful people in tech support
3. I've yet to find anyone helpful at any of the nearby stores so that avenue was a waste of time and gas.
I've written up a more detailed account of my saga that has some other useful phone numbers and resources should anyone have special problems with their HTC Ozone phones.
When I first had the password lockout I called Verizon and after after some basic efforts to trouble shoot they said go to the Verizon store for a re flash. At the Verizon store (Waldorf, MD) they said, after 15 minutes or so of waiting, that they couldn't do anything for me. Back home I called Verizon again (866-406-5154) and got someone who was much more helpful but still unable to fix things. It seems these phones are new enough that the Verizon techs don't know the tricks yet. They did provide a number (800-229-1235) for Personal Communications (http://www.pcdphones.com/formerly UT Star Com) but that number is only staffed from 8AM to 5:30PM M-F (not sure which time zone). However the voice message mentioned a hotline number (866-806-9990) which I called. This referred me back to the 800-229-1235 number for "unlock code" issues but I stayed on the line anyway and got someone who tried to help me out. At some point they mentioned holding the DOWN VOLUME button and SEND button while powering up the phone. They thought this would clear the memory but not the password setting. I tried it anyway and it worked.
While pressing both the Volume Down button and SEND button you need to hold the Power/END button in for a second or so until you see the following menu screen (the misspelled "resotre" is exactly how the menu appears):
Wiping user data/settings &
any user installed applications...
1. Press VolUp to restore
manufacturer default.
2. Press VolDown to resotre
custom configuration.
3. Press other keys to
cancel.​
At this point pressing the VolUp button gets you a screen that says:
Are you sure
you want to wipe your phone?
Press Send Key to confirm,
and any other key to cancel.​
Pressing the Send Key results in:
Restoring . . .
Wait for completed​where the second line is in red
After less than a minute you should see:
Restore completed
Press Volume Down to restart​
Pressing Volume Down restarts the phone.
First you see the HTC boot screen for about 40 seconds followed by the Verizon splash animation. Then the green Windows Mobile Version 6.1 boot screen comes up about for 90 seconds while the back light flashes on and off a few times. Finally, if you have a SIM card installed, a Change Mode window appears with the following message and OK above the left soft key:
SIM card detected. Your device will now
switch to Global mode.​
Pressing the left soft key brings up a Press SEND to activate your phone where SEND is actually an icon of the SEND button. Pressing SEND dials *228 and displays a GEAR icon and the text Programming in progress... . . ." while voice propmpts tell you "To program your phone press 1 . . . "
Pressing "1" plays some badly encoded music along with the text "Connected:" followed by a timer and "SPL unlocked" in red below it.
After a minute or so the screen displays "Programming was successful. Please Wait. Your phone is being reset."
Then, the phone restarts and comes up at the normal home screen displaying the time and date. From here you can restore or set up your applications and data.
So if you back up your data you can even recover from a lost password or a "friend" that locks your phone. I suspect there may be a way to unlock the password without wiping the phone by getting an unlock code keyed to the phone's serial number of DEC number (found under the battery). I didn't need this service as I just got the phone and hadn't put any data on it. If you back up the data and applications with Active Sync you should be safe but I haven't played with active sync much so I can't vouch for its stability and performance.
Hope this helps others with this phone. It's really nice when it works but it seems to have a few software pitfalls as well. Feel free to move this to an HTC Ozone forum should one be set up in the near future.
Max L.

Hard Reset
hi,
i am tried to do the same but still my phone shows HTC logo screen
how i can fix the briced phone
i am in Qatar Middle east (out side of US)
help me to fix the my lovely phone

Great Guide!
Thanks for posting this! My HTC Snap has a broken screen and I wanted to hard reset before I sold it. This was the only place I could find instructions with enough detail to do it without seeing what I was doing!