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I hope this hasn't been covered before. I DID search, so I apologize if it has directly been addressed.
I have some questions concerning streaming video. I have tcmp and have no problems with youtube, but I've got a list of some websites here that I believe are rstp. I tried the htc player from here, but still can't get these sites to load. Some of the sites on these links are network stations (NBC, Fox, etc), so I think it would be awesome to be able to watch these.
http://freetube.110mb.com/
http://www.chooseandwatch.com/
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Another site that I'd like to play, but it's divx and I just can't get it to work
http://www.tv-links.co.uk/
How did you get youtube and TCPMP to work together? I never understood how to get it to work, I have the flash plugin and TCPMP installed but whenever the Youtube video opens in TCPMP it is so jumpy and laggy that its unwatchable, and it never works in full screen.
problem seems to be you're using an MDA (wizard).
The MDA is more than capable of playing streaming media, but you have to remember that youtube videos are not encoded for the low-bandwidth and slow-cpu of a phone.
The Titan (Mogul, which forum you're posting in) has double the CPU power of the Wizard, and can connect over 4x as fast to the internet.
It works just fine on the mogul/Titan.
what are you talking about? I have both the Wizard and the Mogul from Sprint, I am talking about using my Mogul to play youtube videos using EVDO. I know that the Wizard cant play the videos. But I don't know how to setup youtube on my phone.
Go to http://www.gopckt.com/ they have the mobile version of youtube that works really well with tcpmp. all the youtube videos are available unlike the m.youtube.com version
Check this forum. Forget mobile youtube, it blows http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-6800-xv6800/90808-full-youtube-access.html
Holy Riviera
Nice found! It works like a charm on my 6800!
riviera said:
I hope this hasn't been covered before. I DID search, so I apologize if it has directly been addressed.
I have some questions concerning streaming video. I have tcmp and have no problems with youtube, but I've got a list of some websites here that I believe are rstp. I tried the htc player from here, but still can't get these sites to load. Some of the sites on these links are network stations (NBC, Fox, etc), so I think it would be awesome to be able to watch these.
http://freetube.110mb.com/
http://www.chooseandwatch.com/
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Another site that I'd like to play, but it's divx and I just can't get it to work
http://www.tv-links.co.uk/
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I've also been looking for decent streaming media links and applications especially ones that are free of charge. I happened to come across this one which I found on the Microsoft site. https://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/domore/msnbc.mspx It only plays MSNBC network media but it works quite nicely. Videos also seem to be formatted specifically for wide screen. They look awesome and they stream rather quickly in my location. Check it out, I think you may like this app and even if you don't at least it was FREE.
It has now been updated to work with the Diamond and its free, Get it now, Its awesome!!
Change Log from Update here...
http://blog.kinoma.com/2008/09/kinoma-play-update-now-available/
Download here...
http://kinoma.com/freeplay/download/
Yeah but the interface is not drawn for VGA resolution, the whole menu looks pixelated and crap.
The best, I would beg to differ.
does it support divx?
Vulpix said:
Yeah but the interface is not drawn for VGA resolution, the whole menu looks pixelated and crap.
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HAHA, on my mogul, it was a really cool program, now that I'm getting the diamond, I guess it's not all that hot anymore
Think Core player is the one to have.
Its plays almost all popular files.... except rmvb.
Sorry wrong place, too much windows opened!
native VGA support would help me to buy this wonderful player immediately.
Felt Core Player much much better..
Blazeitup123 said:
does it support divx?
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Kinoma Play supports MPEG-4 Video SP and AVC/H.264 codecs, 3GPP (same as MPEG-4), Flash Video (Sorenson Spark codec), QuickTime Movie (same as MPEG-4) and Windows Media 9 (WMV9 codec) video formats. For streaming, Kinoma Play supports HTTP, RTSP, and MMS streaming.
doesn't seem like it
Works only in full version!
OK and what about performance...it doesnt support QTV so Im interested about smoothness of playing standart unconverted *.avi videos...
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Yeah but the interface is not drawn for VGA resolution, the whole menu looks pixelated and crap.
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Your right, I posted this thread before I had tried it on my Diamond, it looked awesome on my Hermes in its native resolution but on the Diamond, it looks pants. I'll wait for a true VGA version before I purchase this, the free one will do for now.
i downloaded the software by the link given in the first post, but when i start the player it wants to register. thought this was a free version ?!
Core Player vs. Kinoma Player
I do find that core player is an all in one package for almost all video formats. Though Kinoma is very good looking though not in VGA, core player is still the best so far.
Hope they could tweak it a bit further for it to utilize the built-in GFX accelerator ................... a wish that may not come true soooooon
Isn't this the old palm app, I'd have to check, but I'm pretty sure my kids have this on their zodiack tapwaves (nice machine in it's day, great spec.) . Core player with diamond skin is unbeatable.
Streaming files present on PC
Hi all,
Can I with Kinoma listen to music and video present in my personnal computer?
I'am looking for this type of application (like Simplifymedia for Iphone)
Thanks
I have to say, though, I am really digging the built in Orb client on Kinoma.
"Can I with Kinoma listen to music and video present in my personnal computer?
I'am looking for this type of application (like Simplifymedia for Iphone)"
Yes, it has a nice built-in Orb client.
More “finger-friendly” for phones with hi-resolution (VGA+) screens, including the HTC Touch Diamond
see, VGA resolution.
impossible to use Kinoma Freeplay
I downloaded the Kinoma Freeplay (do I need the full version : Kinoma play), I've installed it, and I lunch it, it ask for a product registration. I was thinking that the Freeplay version was free?
What I need to do?
Thanks
HI ALL I FOUND NEW MOBILE MEDIA AND BROWSER PLAYER FOR WIN MOBILE
Kinoma, a visionary creator of mobile media software, launches Kinoma Play to unify media browsing, search and playback, making it the first true mobile media browser. Featuring a user interface inspired by the simplicity and beauty of a digital television, Kinoma Play turns any Windows Mobile smartphone into a digital media powerhouse.
SEE DETAIL HERE
http://kinoma.com/news/press-releases/
SCREEN SHOT
http://kinoma.com/news/press-images/
INSTALLER full working
Vavvvv supppper.
Not so new but non the less, I have the full version and it rocks.... CorePlayer, Spb Online can't even come close....
Downloading... ... ...
It looks amazing, thanks...
Thanks a lot for sharing!!!!
I will also test it
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Not so new but non the less, I have the full version and it rocks.... CorePlayer, Spb Online can't even come close....
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i think its usefull to our community its amazing
for some reason it keeps hangin up on random files when I first run program and it scans all directories....anyways to bypass this or set it so it only scans certain folders?
what a fast and cool app. so speed is possible on windows mobile
but its not a full version and only english, but really great, also the youtube player
CorePlayer the best!
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for some reason it keeps hangin up on random files when I first run program and it scans all directories....anyways to bypass this or set it so it only scans certain folders?
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official forum for kinoma
http://forum.kinoma.com/
surprising :O
[damn, i did not refresh page, sorry for double-post
LazaPasi said:
CorePlayer the best!
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you must be kidding, there's nothing like tcpmp 0.81, good rom and set of plugs lol!
regardless of that, will try Kinoma(i'm surprised by that release).
I think this app is simply awesome. I will be upgrading h to full version ASAP. Great find; thanks for posting.
Best surprises:
- SPEED
- streaming podcasts
- auto update of local content
- internet radio
only thing missing that would make me pee myself: Pandora
thanks. concept is cool and could be replacement for a lot of apps. but video playback without fullscreen just doesnt get it done. maybe if you have smartphone with no touchscreen.
Yeah...it is a great app.... I love how you can use Shoutcast in the free version.
Did anyone find a way to make the YouTube part play in landscape mode?
$30 for a video player... I know WMP is not great but TCPMP is free and works darn well. Looks like Kinoma has a "free" version but the site does not tell you if this is a trial period only, if there are missing features, or ?
i found out that this version does not play my wma files, so its in some parts a limited version. ALso i could not find a qway to play youtube in landscape ?
amazing! only bad that fullscreen doesn't work.
It doesn't seem to support DivX...?!
Admiral_Thrawn said:
It doesn't seem to support DivX...?!
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"Technical Notes
Kinoma Play supports MPEG-4 Video SP and AVC/H.264 codecs, 3GPP (same as MPEG-4), Flash Video (Sorenson Spark codec), QuickTime Movie (same as MPEG-4) and Windows Media 9 (WMV9 codec) video formats. For streaming, Kinoma Play supports HTTP, RTSP, and MMS streaming."
I received my Touch Pro 2 from Vodafone last week and aside from the garish theme colours for the TouchFLO, I've noticed that Vodafone haven't included the fantastic Youtube App.
Having tried the latest version of the app I could find, it worked but stopped Media Player from working in the process meaning I could no longer play MP4 or 3GP files from the HTC Album (comes up with 'source filter not found' when you try and play the video.) Only way I could sort this out was to do a hard reset as the app wouldn't uninstall itself.
So far I can only get Youtube to work from the web, the quality of which is shocking, or from CorePlayer which is equally as bad.
Does anyone know where I can get the Youtube CAB that's specifically written for the Touch Pro 2? Perhaps someone with the standard HTC TP2 ROM could extract it? The rest I can wait until a decent ROM is written then I'll unlock and flash the phone but Youtube I can't live without!
I have installed Kinoma on mine - seems to play youtube OK over wireless but over 3G it was pretty poor and kept stopping. Not sure if there's any way to get it to buffer more.
Steve.
That's just the problem Steve.
Whilst Youtube can be streamed even via the web through HTC Streaming Player or CorePlayer, the quality sucks and is barely watchable at times.
The HTC Youtube app is as good as dammit viewing on the desktop. Where HQ streams are available for instance, these are of superb quality and smooth too, even over 3G. Nothing else comes close but I can't find this app for love nor money, not the TP2 specific version of the app at least.
Noone got the Youtube app to hand or perhaps could extract the cab from the WWE ROM?
Not Vodafone
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I received my Touch Pro 2 from Vodafone last week and aside from the garish theme colours for the TouchFLO, I've noticed that Vodafone haven't included the fantastic Youtube App.!
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Just to let you know it's not just the vodafone version I have an Orange branded TP2 and the app is not installed on mine either?! If you are desperate to watch youtube try youtubeplay the interface isn't great but at least it works
well I know google made a youtube app for wm (strange that they are making apps for wm when they have android), and personally I like the htc one better, but the quality seems to be the same:
http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/youtube.html
you have to enter your phone number and they will send you a download link to the app I dont know why they dont just let you download it off their website, but at least they made one lol
Steve,
sjwk said:
I have installed Kinoma on mine - seems to play youtube OK over wireless but over 3G it was pretty poor and kept stopping. Not sure if there's any way to get it to buffer more.
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Kinoma Play's YouTube playback quality will be as good or better than other YouTube clients under the same network conditions.
3G bitrates do vary constantly, so the quality of the data connection when you start playback affects the quality of the video/audio you'll see. You may get a higher-quality version the next time you play the video, or if you stop moving (if you were walking), or if you move 10 feet in any direction.
(Note that the latest Kinoma Play update includes a workaround for a YouTube bug, so results are not as good in Kinoma FreePlay as I write this. A Kinoma FreePlay update with that same workaround will be available soon.)
-- Charles Wiltgen
Thanks for the input guys, I see it's not just Vodafone who disable the app in their version of the ROM?
Whilst there are alternatives, I still think the HTC app is by far and away the best both in terms of usability and quality. So far the official HTC app is the only one I've seen that allows the HQ picture where available which makes a big difference to picture quality. Even standard videos look so much better through the official app, even at full screen.
I've seen several versions of the HTC youtube app on the web, the latest of which I tried but it messed up the media player and wouldn't play video files anymore. This had a knock-on effect in that you couldn't play videos anymore from the camera album. As mentioned I had to hard reset the phone to get rid of the youtube app and return things to normal, haven't touched it again since, perhaps it was the wrong version for this phone?
There must be the official HTC app for the TP2 floating around somewhere, esp given that some people have started 'dumping' their official ROMs for exploitation by the cookers.
Surely it wouldn't be too difficult to extract the app from the official HTC TP2 ROM for someone who is up to speed on these things?
I used to have a Xperia X1 and someone created a YouTube app for that, I've installed it on my TP2 and it works a treat. Quality is fantastic and it works well on 3G/HSDPA as well as WiFi:
http://norti.hu/xperia/youtube_x1.zip
arun1uk said:
I used to have a Xperia X1 and someone created a YouTube app for that, I've installed it on my TP2 and it works a treat. Quality is fantastic and it works well on 3G/HSDPA as well as WiFi:
http://norti.hu/xperia/youtube_x1.zip
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That's great... have you tested that it doesn't mess with the media player though?
Try filming a short video with the camera and then try playing that video back through the HTC album and see if it works?
If it works then obviously the video will play, if not, you may get a message similar to what I did which is 'can't find streaming filter for this file type' or words to that effect.
Let me know how you get on and if all checks out ok I'll try that CAB file
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I used to have a Xperia X1 and someone created a YouTube app for that, I've installed it on my TP2 and it works a treat. Quality is fantastic and it works well on 3G/HSDPA as well as WiFi:
http://norti.hu/xperia/youtube_x1.zip
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How you getting on Arun? Have you had chance to test the media player etc yet for videos?
arun1uk said:
I used to have a Xperia X1 and someone created a YouTube app for that, I've installed it on my TP2 and it works a treat. Quality is fantastic and it works well on 3G/HSDPA as well as WiFi:
http://norti.hu/xperia/youtube_x1.zip
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OMG, is there a QVGA version for my Treo Pro (320x320) screen?
Just for curiosity sake I installed it but can only see one-third of the app on my square screen.
the X1 version still breaks the video gallery which totally sucks as it was absoutely great looking so looks like us vodafone people are still waiting...
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the X1 version still breaks the video gallery which totally sucks as it was absoutely great looking so looks like us vodafone people are still waiting...
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Unfortunately this appears to be the case for now.
In the meantime I've downloaded and installed the Google YouTube app (see most recent thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4101425#post4101425 ) which appears to do the job to a certain extent. At least it doesn't mess with the HTC Album & video settings.
Obviously if anyone comes across the HTC version of the app that DOESN'T foul up the album & video then I'm sure there's quite a few of us, Vodafone users in particular, that would like to hear about it.
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Unfortunately this appears to be the case for now.
In the meantime I've downloaded and installed the Google YouTube app (see most recent thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4101425#post4101425 ) which appears to do the job to a certain extent. At least it doesn't mess with the HTC Album & video settings.
Obviously if anyone comes across the HTC version of the app that DOESN'T foul up the album & video then I'm sure there's quite a few of us, Vodafone users in particular, that would like to hear about it.
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for HD2 but may work:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TWGCL8GL
I'm currently using Core Media Player and it's work fairly well, but I'm annoyed that it doesn't have any on screen controls when videos are played fullscreen.
I'm looking for a video player that has on screen controls like the built in YouTube player. (tap the screen for controls, tap again to to go back to the video).
This makes it much more convenient to skip through videos while in fullscreen mode.
Does anything like that exist?
I recommend Kinoma Play, It's a super player/app for many reasons. And it has all the features you asked for!
I actually bought It!
Haven't tried all features yet...
For some reason It didn't recognize a file, once, that I had on my memory card so I alternate between Kinoma (mostly for the awesome streaming support) and CorePlayer.
mostberg said:
I recommend Kinoma Play, It's a super player/app for many reasons. And it has all the features you asked for!
I actually bought It!
Haven't tried all features yet...
For some reason It didn't recognize a file, once, that I had on my memory card so I alternate between Kinoma (mostly for the awesome streaming support) and CorePlayer.
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Thanks. I bought Kinoma using Trialplay. The interface is very nice, but video playback is aweful. I read on the Kinoma forum that it's designed for streaming and not for local playback.
I wish there was an optimized setting for local playback as well. The interface is MUCH better than CorePlayer.
I hope they update Kinoma to have better local playback at some point. Right now it's unuseable.
What version of core player are you using. I have tried every version with my TMO TP2 and none has worked. I don't mind if it's not touch screen, do you have a cab your willing to share. Thanks