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[6.10.08] Kinoma FreePlayer all in one (mobile media browser)FULL working

HI ALL I FOUND NEW MOBILE MEDIA AND BROWSER PLAYER FOR WIN MOBILE
Kinoma, a visionary creator of mobile media software, launches Kinoma Play to unify media browsing, search and playback, making it the first true mobile media browser. Featuring a user interface inspired by the simplicity and beauty of a digital television, Kinoma Play turns any Windows Mobile smartphone into a digital media powerhouse.
SEE DETAIL HERE
http://kinoma.com/news/press-releases/
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http://kinoma.com/news/press-images/
INSTALLER full working

Vavvvv supppper.

Not so new but non the less, I have the full version and it rocks.... CorePlayer, Spb Online can't even come close....

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It looks amazing, thanks...

Thanks a lot for sharing!!!!
I will also test it

mchapman007 said:
Not so new but non the less, I have the full version and it rocks.... CorePlayer, Spb Online can't even come close....
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i think its usefull to our community its amazing

for some reason it keeps hangin up on random files when I first run program and it scans all directories....anyways to bypass this or set it so it only scans certain folders?

what a fast and cool app. so speed is possible on windows mobile
but its not a full version and only english, but really great, also the youtube player

CorePlayer the best!

!Kernel Panic! said:
for some reason it keeps hangin up on random files when I first run program and it scans all directories....anyways to bypass this or set it so it only scans certain folders?
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official forum for kinoma
http://forum.kinoma.com/

surprising :O

[damn, i did not refresh page, sorry for double-post
LazaPasi said:
CorePlayer the best!
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you must be kidding, there's nothing like tcpmp 0.81, good rom and set of plugs lol!
regardless of that, will try Kinoma(i'm surprised by that release).

I think this app is simply awesome. I will be upgrading h to full version ASAP. Great find; thanks for posting.
Best surprises:
- SPEED
- streaming podcasts
- auto update of local content
- internet radio
only thing missing that would make me pee myself: Pandora

thanks. concept is cool and could be replacement for a lot of apps. but video playback without fullscreen just doesnt get it done. maybe if you have smartphone with no touchscreen.

Yeah...it is a great app.... I love how you can use Shoutcast in the free version.
Did anyone find a way to make the YouTube part play in landscape mode?

$30 for a video player... I know WMP is not great but TCPMP is free and works darn well. Looks like Kinoma has a "free" version but the site does not tell you if this is a trial period only, if there are missing features, or ?

i found out that this version does not play my wma files, so its in some parts a limited version. ALso i could not find a qway to play youtube in landscape ?

amazing! only bad that fullscreen doesn't work.

It doesn't seem to support DivX...?!

Admiral_Thrawn said:
It doesn't seem to support DivX...?!
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"Technical Notes
Kinoma Play supports MPEG-4 Video SP and AVC/H.264 codecs, 3GPP (same as MPEG-4), Flash Video (Sorenson Spark codec), QuickTime Movie (same as MPEG-4) and Windows Media 9 (WMV9 codec) video formats. For streaming, Kinoma Play supports HTTP, RTSP, and MMS streaming."

Alternative Player for AVI?

What are the player to play my AVI as i notice that it cant play my avi on wmp.

i use this - http://www.coreplayer.com/
however its commercial software.
im sure someone else would be able to recommend an alternative that is free.

Personally tried core player,it dropped frames. Played a Music video of 640*352 rsolution,24fps,.xvid encoded avi file,the result of first 45 seconds are like this-Played frame-25,Dropped frame-999. So how is that? I used the 1.30 version though,no idea about the latest version. I am selling it as soon as the Omnia Hd or Omnia 2 releases. I can't live without watching movies/videos on the go,so I need something where I will get the .divx and .xvid support out of the box.
Thanks.

I think it's a shame that CorePlayer don't do a demo since more than most software, you need to trial it before you know whether it will play your videos on your device, and no reviews or screenshots will ever tell you that.

Core media player (1.25) played a 23 fps 640*352 xvid (.avi) video file encoded at 133Kbps (about 90 minutes fo video in 700MB). This was downloaded as a "for PC" file and played like a dream.
Stu

I found that divx has a mobile player and it seems to work great for avi and divx files. I tried installing both coreplayer and the freeware version TCPMP player and both crashed when I tried to run. If anyone knows of a fix to either of them crashing please inform.
Heres the link to Divx mobile. http://www.divx.com/mobile/

Hi all. I'm using core player and haven't had any problems - vid playback is good. I did use the divx player for a while but somehow preferred core player. One thing I dislike about them both is the lack of finger friendly controls - always need the stylus sooner or later.

I'm also using Core player and it works absolutely fine for me...But I found that there are no controls and seek bar when in full screen landscape mode. As soon as I touch the screen, it goes to portrait mode. So to move the movie forward or backward, it has always to be done only in portrait mode.
Is this a normal behavior, or there is some bug in mine?

Core player alternative needed
Core player plays everything fine for me, but it is very non-intuitive. Making playlists in the old version, TCPMP, was as simple as selecting, etc. I have not seen this ease of use in the new version. The lack of any good documentation does not help either.
It may be that I just have not figured this piece of software out, but the new version takes the ipod and Windows media player approach. This approach requires that it must know where all your files are all the time and be updated each time you add new media, then you are willing to spend a lot of time setting up playlists. I wife bought it and never uses it because it is a pain in the a$$. It seems to have a learning mode, but this is really annoyong when you know what you want. I am not willing to spend the time required for setting up playlists in the required manner before getting in the car or going for a run.
A simple program like the old TCPMP would be greatly appreciated. They had a winner before.
MPlayer is not yet ready for prime time, but shows promise.

Any Player that supports subtitles?

pgu said:
I'm also using Core player and it works absolutely fine for me...But I found that there are no controls and seek bar when in full screen landscape mode. As soon as I touch the screen, it goes to portrait mode. So to move the movie forward or backward, it has always to be done only in portrait mode.
Is this a normal behavior, or there is some bug in mine?
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Well, I have the same issue. Whether we're calling this a bug , or normal behaviour is maybe up for debate, but in the real world its pretty annoying.
What I really want is a media player that intuitively knows when to play in landscape mode, can browse files easily and has finger friendly controls ... and if it's free, that's fine too

pgu said:
I'm also using Core player and it works absolutely fine for me...But I found that there are no controls and seek bar when in full screen landscape mode. As soon as I touch the screen, it goes to portrait mode. So to move the movie forward or backward, it has always to be done only in portrait mode.
Is this a normal behavior, or there is some bug in mine?
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CorePlayer works in landscape for me. When I rotate the phone, it updates to match portrait or landscape.
I think I had to force it to do this with G-Config.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487991

TCMP
Bothkill said:
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Hi
There is a version of TCMP (search this forum) wich support srt subtitles.
I also use Coreplayer but I must say that if the user interface is better with Coreplayer, TCMP play the same avi files (standard 700 mb divx) much better than Coreplayer.
I think Coreplayer need more fine tuning to work right.

Video Player with on screen controls?

I'm currently using Core Media Player and it's work fairly well, but I'm annoyed that it doesn't have any on screen controls when videos are played fullscreen.
I'm looking for a video player that has on screen controls like the built in YouTube player. (tap the screen for controls, tap again to to go back to the video).
This makes it much more convenient to skip through videos while in fullscreen mode.
Does anything like that exist?

I recommend Kinoma Play, It's a super player/app for many reasons. And it has all the features you asked for!
I actually bought It!
Haven't tried all features yet...
For some reason It didn't recognize a file, once, that I had on my memory card so I alternate between Kinoma (mostly for the awesome streaming support) and CorePlayer.

mostberg said:
I recommend Kinoma Play, It's a super player/app for many reasons. And it has all the features you asked for!
I actually bought It!
Haven't tried all features yet...
For some reason It didn't recognize a file, once, that I had on my memory card so I alternate between Kinoma (mostly for the awesome streaming support) and CorePlayer.
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Thanks. I bought Kinoma using Trialplay. The interface is very nice, but video playback is aweful. I read on the Kinoma forum that it's designed for streaming and not for local playback.
I wish there was an optimized setting for local playback as well. The interface is MUCH better than CorePlayer.
I hope they update Kinoma to have better local playback at some point. Right now it's unuseable.

What version of core player are you using. I have tried every version with my TMO TP2 and none has worked. I don't mind if it's not touch screen, do you have a cab your willing to share. Thanks

watch films etc!

hi. thinking of moving from the compact iv to hd2! question: how easy is it watch movies on the go with hd2? how big sd card would it need,,, and what format is the best to convert dvd's or tv program recordings? ta!
(the screen is so huge,,, looks like next gen iphone will be copying htc!)

jannen said:
hi. thinking of moving from the compact iv to hd2! question: how easy is it watch movies on the go with hd2? how big sd card would it need,,, and what format is the best to convert dvd's or tv program recordings? ta!
(the screen is so huge,,, looks like next gen iphone will be copying htc!)
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If you rip dvds with something like Nero, you can create DivX avi files that will play a treat in core player.
The native Windows WMP format plays perfectly in media player too.
The native HTC player format is mp4, and to be honest, that looks the best to me, but DivX in core player is about 99% as good.
Whenever I have something to watch, it's usually a DivX file, so I just copy it to the phone and watch it as is, without conversion (about 350MB per hour). I have a 16GB card with about 6GB of music, 2GB of installers and installed apps, and therefore 8GB free to put vids on (at the moment).
I should be able to get about 10 films on there, or 20 typical episodes of TV programs, at the above-stated average size.
A few people have had problems with core player, but there's plenty of settings that you can change. I've got it set to play nicely now, and there's very rarely any lag (toggling fullscreen off and then back on gets rid of that for me), and it looks gorgeous on the massive bright screen.

I am using HTC Touch HD video converter (use search in the forums for download ). It works fine to convert for example divx movies.

robje_2004 said:
I am using HTC Touch HD video converter (use search in the forums for download ). It works fine to convert for example divx movies.
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I find this to be putting the audio out of sync very slightly when converting xvids etc.

richardirv said:
I find this to be putting the audio out of sync very slightly when converting xvids etc.
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Yes me too. I converted several TV shows and the audio remained out of sync by about 0.25 seconds for the duration.

If you can get Core Player or TCPMP (core player beta) working well (which just takes some settings fondling), then you don't need to convert things. AVIs and MPEGs play perfectly for me.

johncmolyneux said:
If you can get Core Player or TCPMP (core player beta) working well (which just takes some settings fondling), then you don't need to convert things. AVIs and MPEGs play perfectly for me.
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I know what you mean but I kinda like using the HTC Player, it just feels like a better experience.

richardirv said:
I know what you mean but I kinda like using the HTC Player, it just feels like a better experience.
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Yeah, I know what you mean too! In fairness, the hi-def movie test thread with the helicopters movie on it looks sooooooooo much sharper and cleaner in the HTC player than it does in CorePlayer.
I'm just impatient. I just "rip" a movie or tv show and watch it straight off. I find converters to usually take as long as it takes to watch it.

johncmolyneux said:
Yeah, I know what you mean too! In fairness, the hi-def movie test thread with the helicopters movie on it looks sooooooooo much sharper and cleaner in the HTC player than it does in CorePlayer.
I'm just impatient. I just "rip" a movie or tv show and watch it straight off. I find converters to usually take as long as it takes to watch it.
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Hehe, When I get time I am going to dowload a variety of converters and try to find one I like and one that works well. Ideally the one that was made for the HD would be perfect if the audio sync was fixed. I must admit though I havn't had chance to actively look for any solutions to that problem yet.

One thing I would like from the HTC Player would be a resume option.

Settings in Core Player
Everyone is talking about these Settings in Core Player:
I have searched the web and couldn´t find any good settings.
Can someone please share the settings for Core Player here ?
Thanks in advanvce.

raphy82 said:
Everyone is talking about these Settings in Core Player:
I have searched the web and couldn´t find any good settings.
Can someone please share the settings for Core Player here ?
Thanks in advanvce.
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In CorePlayer, go to Menu, Tools, Settings, Select Page, Video and set output to Raw FrameBuffer or GDI, and make sure quality is High. I also set Smooth Zoom on (not sure what it is though), and turn Dither off (I've had it hang on me when this was on).
I have mine on Raw, and it plays movies that are SD (telly size) perfectly. I can watch them on my TV via my PC, or just copy the AVI onto my memory card and watch them on the phone.

Thank You , I´ll try the new settings when i get home.

Thanks
Thanks for all the posts... damn this forum is so good!!!
Just one thing... is there a way to watch videos in landscape on Coreplayer? The version I have doesnt have that option...

jannen said:
Thanks for all the posts... damn this forum is so good!!!
Just one thing... is there a way to watch videos in landscape on Coreplayer? The version I have doesnt have that option...
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What version are you using? That's been in every version of coreplayer I've had.
I've just done a hard reset on my phone, and haven't installed coreplayer yet, so I can't tell you how to do it exactly, but the it's in menu under options and I believe it's orientation. Also, when a movie is playing it, touching it usually makes it landscape and fullscreen too.

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In CorePlayer, go to Menu, Tools, Settings, Select Page, Video and set output to Raw FrameBuffer or GDI, and make sure quality is High. I also set Smooth Zoom on (not sure what it is though), and turn Dither off (I've had it hang on me when this was on).
I have mine on Raw, and it plays movies that are SD (telly size) perfectly. I can watch them on my TV via my PC, or just copy the AVI onto my memory card and watch them on the phone.
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Excellent, using GDI seems to have sorted out my frame flicker during fast moving sequences. Thanks!

Video Quality

Playing back videos that are stored on my sd card, as well as youtube videos, are not clear at all. They aren't even close to how clear they appear on my ipod touch. Is that because the file source resolution does not match the HD2's resolution? Even when videos are played in original resolution, they still are grainy and pixelated.

You will find all videos related stuff here, Simple search can do a trick

Has anyone seen a chart that would be similar to this one for the Sony Ericsson:
http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=8491877&postcount=24
I'd like to set up the optimum settings in my SUPER conversion software. If you have setting in SUPER that you are using and really like, could you please share? Thanks.

For Youtube, if you're using the Youtube client you should set the quality to the best.

Use Core player, I get very good results. Plays all of my divx/xvid movies without conversion. Better Quality than any ipod i have seen. Just search for best settings to use!

Has anyone test driven the "Kinoma Player"? It is supposed to be very good and works with Leo. I don't know, just trying to find out some information about the quality of this product.

original_ganjaman said:
Use Core player, I get very good results. Plays all of my divx/xvid movies without conversion. Better Quality than any ipod i have seen. Just search for best settings to use!
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For purchasing core player to use with the HD2, do you download the WM Pocket PC version, or the WM Smartphone version?
I believe these are the ideal settings once it's downloaded (correct?):
Menu/Tools/Settings/Select Page/Video and set :
1-Video output to DirectDraw (not GDI)
2-Smooth Zoom to ON

mojohio said:
For purchasing core player to use with the HD2, do you download the WM Pocket PC version, or the WM Smartphone version?
I believe these are the ideal settings once it's downloaded (correct?):
Menu/Tools/Settings/Select Page/Video and set :
1-Video output to DirectDraw (not GDI)
2-Smooth Zoom to ON
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wm pocket pc version is the one you want, the smartphone version is for non-touch screen devices.
Those settings are fine. GDI works also.

bahardman said:
Has anyone test driven the "Kinoma Player"? It is supposed to be very good and works with Leo. I don't know, just trying to find out some information about the quality of this product.
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I'm biased, of course, but Kinoma Play is a pretty great app.
The product page is a good representation of what it can do: http://kinoma.com/play/
You can see it in action here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfYZ-bC20eM
Plus, there's 30-day money-back guarantee in case you're not delighted.
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