is there a way to get the alternate back to the Rafael, i.e., lost the 'diamond' back if favor of the regular back to the device,....? on the Wiki there are two pictures, one showing the 'diamond' back and the other showing a regular one,....
does anyone know if it will be as simple as just swapping out the backs, or is one completely different than the other,....?
thanks,
ek
Yeah I'd be interested to know this too but for the opposite reason. I will be getting a Vario IV but don't like the back (the phone it black and the back is grey, WHY!!!!). Will probably order a replacement back from the HTC site if it will fit.
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Seen on another forum .. thanks taxman .. bought this .. seems like a cheap package overall ..
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=m18_relax_300_MDAVarioCP
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Seen on another forum .. thanks taxman .. bought this .. seems like a cheap package overall ..
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=m18_relax_300_MDAVarioCP
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Looks good - Another T-Mobile page still shows the Vario with Co-Pilot on this tariff at £119.99
Yeah , it is under "special offers" - look under the "300 mins for £14.50 for 12 months" deals
Thanks joker3001 ! just ordered one
Was looking for a reason to buy a Wizard anyway (or at least something to justify it to the wife :wink: ) and the Sat Nav does just that !
Soon , the battle between the Universal & the Wizard will commence - pending a T-moble credit check of course :lol:
Cheers dude
Is this phone any different from the SX56?
I just installed the XDA ROM software into my SX56 and unlocked the AT&T phone which now accepts TMobile (the phone accepts my SIM card and TMobile made a call to me which came in). I am paying $19.95 a month and have had the service for about eight years
The problem I am having is that my phone screen now doesnt respond properly: Touching it causes the backlight to go on but most of the keys dont do what one would expect them to do: The phone turns on with a reminder from the calendar on the screen which wont DISMISS or CLOSE. Pressing on the windows logo and then on the phone key causes the calendar to come up and I am not sure which numbers are entered when I do manage to get the phone to come onto the screen (none of the right hand numbers seem to work at all). Does anyone recognise these symptoms and/or could they just show that my SX56 needs the ROM RE-flashing? I should add that pressing the Master Reset button with this ROM in place seems to make the phone shut off and then when you restart it, all of the data remains in place. I wonder if there is any possibility that the XDA ROM has prevented the reset button from working normally?
But then I saw this ad: The SDA site implies that all these phones are the same under the skin although an article written in 2002 http://wiki.xda-developers.com/uploads/tmobile-pocketpc.pdf implies that the manufacturer was coming out with some different processor at that stage and that the processor in the Wallaby was then already obsolete: Does anyone know if this phone represents any advance on the SX56 or is it newer or is my phone exactly the same as this one or is my SX56 actually better? (I already have the COPILOT software independently). Or is it just the same walllaby in a different casing which TMobile are tyring to get rid of because the manufacturer is as uncooperative iwth them as they are with anyone else?
Anybody had any luck with this?
I just called T-Mobile sales to ask what was included with the Copilot kit and was told that they are not honouring this offer due to a mistake. Worth a try anyway?
Mistake, but IS this phone any different from the SX56?
What the mistake was may be relevant: I just called them and they said they WERE although they had at first said that the CoPilot was extra and wasnt included with the price. I didnt take it any further as I couldn't figure out whether the phone they are offering is any different to the one I already have
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The problem I am having is that my phone screen now doesnt respond properly
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Sounds like the digitiser is up the swanee - have you tried recalibrating it?
is it just the same walllaby in a different casing which TMobile are tyring to get rid of because the manufacturer is as uncooperative iwth them as they are with anyone else?
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It's a completely different phone. The Vario is an HTC Wizard with T-Mobile branding. There's plenty of info on this site on the differences between models.
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I couldn't figure out whether the phone they are offering is any different to the one I already have
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Never heard of Google, or even http://wiki.xda-developers.com/?
Pricing mistake
The sales chap I spoke to said that the free Copilot offer only applies to other phones - it should cost £120 with the Vario. However, he said he works for direct sales, not the web sales team, so advised me to give it a go anyway, which I have done. It's before the 7.30pm cutoff for next day delivery, so I'll give you an update tomorrow...
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The sales chap I spoke to said that the free Copilot offer only applies to other phones - it should cost £120 with the Vario. However, he said he works for direct sales, not the web sales team, so advised me to give it a go anyway, which I have done. It's before the 7.30pm cutoff for next day delivery, so I'll give you an update tomorrow...
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Their "mistake" excuse is weak - if it is, why haven't they taken the page down?
It clearly states on that page Vario with co pilot. Whats the problem ? Get it bought :lol:
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"Sounds like the digitiser is up the swanee - have you tried recalibrating it?"
Not sure how to reclalibrate it but the problem appears to be that I dropped it and 10-12 vertical black lines started appearing to the right hand edge of the screen. Sometimes they are there, sometimes not. THere is usually at last one there somewhere. At about that time the screen stopped responding as I mention. Today the left third started displaying the same veritcal lines, though spaced quite far apart (about a millimetre). Screen doesn't APPEAR cracked: Does this sound like a digitiser and if so, how do you recalibrate it please or is there a link to somewhere on the XDA site which I cant find which might tell me? Or could it be the cable loose in the circuit board? As you touch the lower right hand corner of the metal casing where the vertical lines are, those lines flash (the right 10 or 12) on and off and every coloured bar everywhere on the screen or word of text has vertical lines on it even if the white parts don't??
(BTW FWIW I am in New York and couldn't take advantage of the .co.uk offer but was just wondering how they could give the unit away so cheap unless it was essentially the same as the 2002 units which are described on the XDA site)
Success! (I think)
Just checked my email on arriving home and my order has been confirmed by T-Mobile so it should be with me tomorrow. Still odd that they show it at £120 on one page and free on another, but I'm not complaining!
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@licensedtoquill - to me it sounds like you've dislodged the connections to the screen. Youcould try taking the thing apart and reseating it, but it's a delicate job and not for someone who's not used to dealing with miniature electronics. Might be work looking for a repair facility - PPC Techs have a good reputation.
As for why the phones are so cheap over here, the network operators will do anything to get you signed up to a contract, as that's where they make their money. It's easy to get a free top line phone if you chose the right contract. Especially one like this which locks you in for 18 months as opposed to the normal 12. They're banking on the fact that even with the 300 free voice minutes, you'll still ramp up the bill with SMS and GPRS over the life of the contract. That's why they put the unlimited half price rental "loyalty" bonus at the end to make sure you stick out the full term.
Mine is confirmed too - should be here before one tomorrow
The Guy on the phone (had to phone to confirm some details) said the deal was so good that they (the web sales team) were all snapping them up too , and that the deal was subject to stock , and that stock of the copilot kits would probably be exhausted by the end of today
No mention of a mistake at all :roll:
@zoidster: what time did you order yours? I needed one and did not have the time to order w/o co-pilot earlier in the day and this looked too good to be true. I got confirmation around 9:30PM UK and hope the stock is not finished yet.
It was about 4.30pm mate - mind you , in "sales speak" a few left probably means several thousand :lol:
If your order was confirmed & they charged you the £5.99 for next day delivery then I'd guess they had stock left
Thanks, I got confirmation and should be with me tommorrow.
Thanks for the link, saved me 50 quid.
Got mine !
yesterday , I managed to navigate to the deal via the homepage
tried again this morning and the same deal is now £199 !
Does this package come with a gps receiver as well??
First of all I've been picking my XDA2 up, to put it in the cradle, by the speaker since everywhere else on it seems to be either buttons or touch-screen, now the plastic cover bit's got pushed in and I need to get into it to push it back. I'm assuming I need those star shaped allen key things and if I do then what should I ask for in a shop, what size and whatever their special name is?
And also, I'm planning on selling this phone to my cousin soon enough but he doesn't know much about computers and whatnot and I know that he'd prefer to have it as it's meant to be in case he needs support. Is it simple to put the old ROM back in after the upgrade, would it just be a case of backing mine up and then installing it back afterwards? I'd love to fiddle round and install WM5 on this phone, would like the persistent memory feature. And one little thing, what's the risk factor of ROM swapping like, I read somewhere that there's a chance I may just be left with a plastic brick of spare parts.
Thanks in advance.
Try this
the service manual explains how to disassemble the himalay
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Himalaya/Himalaya-Service-Manual/HTC XDA II-MDA II Service Manual.pdf
Thanks, but where in freakin hell do I get that plastic stick thing? I'm assuming they won't sell it at the O2 shop.
My screen piece isn't right. Is it possible to remove it without damaging the screen?
Also, There is a piece that I cannot figure out where to stick. It was on the sheet with the screen, immediately below it. The part of the device that corresponds to this location does not have enough surface area to be covered by a piece this shape. It seems that the piece will cover part of the buttons (on hook/off hook) as well, if applied.
Thanks!
You have the same problem that I faced! I was sent a set for HERM100/HERM300 (Cingular, i-Mate, O2, Orange, Dopod 838, T-Mobile), and not for HERM200 (TyTN, Vodafone, Dopod 9000, Softbank). They are differ by buttons layout (see Wiki).
Unfortunately, ShieldZone service is awful and does not reply to my mails.
ooh. that's not good. I think i'm going to fight it w. my CC then. How long ago did you email them?
A week ago already. I can't call them because it is hard for me to understand English by phone.
Hi, has anyone removed their screen shield yet?, mine had a line in it, but I kept it on because I needed some type of screen protection, and didn't have another brand handy at the time, I'm concerned about screen damage upon removal cause this stuff sticks fairly well, and left behind residue, I had a full kit, and just peeled most of it off because it was trash, but I left the battery cover, and screen shields on.
Shieldzone is awful. I bought a screen protector back when the Cingular 8125 came out. It was hard to put on and it had small dots all over the screen which I found very annoying. So I call them up and they told me to send it back. I shipped it back via USPS First Class with delivery confirmation. According to USPS it got to the destination but Shieldzone claimed they never received it. They never response to my emails and when I call them up they hang up on me.
Well, now I can say they are not awful, probably just stupid...
Having still nothing back from them via e-mail, I just have received a new shield set from them! The funny thing is that, although it is marked "HTC TyTN" (just like the first one), it is the same cut for HERM100, not for HERM200 once again!
So, there is a good guy there who had read my complain and decided to send me a replacement, but there is no a person smart enough to check whether they make them all similar (=wrong) or not.
Also looks like most of their people are unable to read. They couldn't read my mail describing their fault, but also they couldn't read internal instructions. On a paper inside the envelope it was a printed instruction to send this order via UPS. The instruction was even painted over by a green marker. But the person who actually was sending it had sent it via USPS, just like the original order...
OK, now I have enough pieces to cut the full shield from. But I have no an intention neither to write them once again, nor to deal with them in the future. I don't like gambling.
To add some fairness...
The replacement order is dated the same day that I e-mailed them. That's fast reaction! If they were thinking before doing it would be great! I'd be satisfied by immediate appologies and a change on their web site (if they just can't make it for TyTN actually), but they prefer to waste their money and loose reputation instead...
I guess I got lucky. Mine said just HTC TyTN and it was correct for the Cingular 8525,
I will say it took me and my wife about an hour to figure out how to put it on though... 7 years of college went to waste it looks like
A lot of people do not like the screen, but I love it. I have a slightly jittery hand and the "stick" helps keep me from selcting the wrong thing.
Granted because I have the Cingular 8525 there are some places that are not covered (because the HTC TyTn has the video conference button and eye.) But all and all I feel much better protected because of it.
Good luck...
Ok, I have done some searching and I am still not sure of the answer to my question.
I have a HERM 100. I broke the screen on accident, but it was having the WSOD problem anyway. I still love the phone and I am trying to fix it.
First question is I have the screen with the P/N HTC60H00037-01M. I have looked several places on ebay, and the only ones I can find selling this exact screen are almost 2 times as expensive. Most if not all the others are saying this screen will work HTC60H00037-00M
Here are the links
The cheaper one with -00M on the end in one of the pictures.
The more expensive one with the EXACT same number as my screen in the pic.
Will the cheaper one work in my phone or is there a real difference between the two screens.
Oh, and does anyone know the best way to get a chip reflowed? I have been watching and reading the WSOD thread, and the only option that seems to fix the problem permanently. I am not able to do this myself I don't think, but if anyone has a surefire way to do this at home I am willing to listen, I just want my favorite phone back.
Chris
5.8LImportEater said:
Ok, I have done some searching and I am still not sure of the answer to my question.
I have a HERM 100. I broke the screen on accident, but it was having the WSOD problem anyway. I still love the phone and I am trying to fix it.
First question is I have the screen with the P/N HTC60H00037-01M. I have looked several places on ebay, and the only ones I can find selling this exact screen are almost 2 times as expensive. Most if not all the others are saying this screen will work HTC60H00037-00M
Here are the links
The cheaper one with -00M on the end in one of the pictures.
The more expensive one with the EXACT same number as my screen in the pic.
Will the cheaper one work in my phone or is there a real difference between the two screens.
Oh, and does anyone know the best way to get a chip reflowed? I have been watching and reading the WSOD thread, and the only option that seems to fix the problem permanently. I am not able to do this myself I don't think, but if anyone has a surefire way to do this at home I am willing to listen, I just want my favorite phone back.
Chris
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Well at least they are both made by Toppoly and that is the crucial thing because different manufacturers use different digitizer circuits:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3372952&postcount=4
NB - This link is for reference only it was written for another Hermes owner who had bought a Hitachi part.
So I think you should be ok with the cheaper one - but I wouldn't put a 100% guarantee on that. (My understanding is that it should be ok though).
Obviously buy from a company that has put in writing that it works ok - just in case a return is needed.
Regarding reflowing the chip. You can experiment with an oven (though I wouldn't like to guess the temp or length of time) - and remove the plastic layer from the keys side. To be honest though, I'd look for a part on ebay or a device being parted out here - because if you try the oven method, you'll probably need a new part anyway
Mike
Ok, I got the cheaper one, and put the phone together. I am having a small problem. I think it is related to the WSOD issue now. After replacing it I put the phone together and it was working but the screen was very white. There were colors and objects on it but they were very hard to see, you had to look from an angle. After charging it a while and working with it (and thinking I screwed up again) I got the screen to work with some pressure on the right side. I am thinking that is the connection for the screen that you almost bend backwards. I am going to re examine that, and look locally for someone who will reflow my chip. This must be the problem.
At first I was not sure but now I have finally gotten a few minutes of non WSOD use out of it, so indeed the cheaper one WILL work.
Again, thanks mike, you are the man. I am certain I can find a dunked 8525 that will allow me to get my WSOD issue fixed.
-to sum up, the cheaper screen WILL work! good times.
Chris
I found a black bricked G1 on craigslist that I am going to buy tomorrow. The current owner says it wont turn on. I plan on messing with it a bit but if it is truly dead, I plan on swapping my good mainboard, etc from my current phone to this one which has a nicer casing.
My question is: Is there an easy way to transplant all of the insides over without having to disconnect it all? Is there a way to extract it as one whole unit?
I am of course assuming that the screen is fine.
It is not going to be as clean cut as you want it. Just changing the digitizer and replacing the touchscreen took me a week just to get it back in there without having springs and coils popping out through the sides.
Actually, I couldnt even do it. I had to beg my wife to do it --- some things just need a womans touch. She crammed it back in there and now it works fine, but I am just saying, no -- be prepared to have nimble efficient fingers and do not do this while drunk or inebriated. It will just destroy the phone!
But if you are getting a "brick" why not JTAG it and end up with two functioning phones.
I was considering that also. i am picking it up today and so I will be able to see exactly what it is doing.
Did you just follow the HTC g1 repair guide to open it up?
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I was considering that also. i am picking it up today and so I will be able to see exactly what it is doing.
Did you just follow the HTC g1 repair guide to open it up?
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I followed the repair guide to open it up - and swap out the motherboards. Took me the better part of five minutes ( I have pulled many phones apart - and the right tools are the key )
I only swapped out the motherboards - put them back together, and now have one fully functioning phone - with another for parts.
Take your time - follow the instructions to the letter, and ensure you have the tools required
Good luck