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Hey everyone. I am considering buying the Cingular 8125, which is also the Wizard i guess, and unlocking it to use with my AT&T plan. I dont want to change plans because i have an awesome plan, etc.
My question is, what will i be able to, and not be able to use on this phone using that old network? I suppose the data features will be useless because im not on cingulars network?
What do you guys think?
Thanks!
you will be able to use is unlocked but realize that cingulars tower coverage is better then atts, ..they purposley lower the coverage capacity of att devices so that u see a difference on cingular. And the data plans for att are now none existant . So beware.
are you currently doing this?
I just got a reply from someone who is using the mmode also.
i currently have no data on my cell plan, shoot....
can i ask where you got your phone? i am about to pay 450.00 for a non-contract 8125 tomorrow.
i'm posting this from an unlocked 8125 on a cingular blue (old AT&T) plan and I absolutely love it. I see no slowdown where i'm at compared to the cingular sim chips. on dslreports.com/mspeed I average between 125 and 155 kbs.
if you still can hurry and add unlimited mmode for $25 a month before they completely freeze the at&t accounts so that any change/add would warrant a migration.
once you do, get your 8125, carrier unlock it, cid unlock it, flash with button's cooked rom, flash with radio rom 1.13, customize your extended rom to the way you want (no need to use the cingular extended rom, its just bloatware because your on at&t's settings.
to get edge working just set your connections to connect to "my work network" on both settings, then go into my work network and add a connection "cellular (gprs)",name it at&t edge (or whatever you want. now the important part is that you have to set the apn as "proxy" without the quotes. then set this connection connects to the internet under the proxy setting.
leave username and password blank and domain blank. that should do it, then connect to internet explorer and you should be surfing on edge. good luck.
I paid full retail also, $490 after tax, and it was worth every penny. I could have got it for $250 if I migrated and used my FAN buisness account, but my blue plan is sooo much better. good luck.
cingular is pretty much refusing to sell one of these to me! The local store is out of them, and told me to call cingular to try to get one, and they wont let me have it without signing a contract. now what?
KINetics, i sent you a PM about details about how you did each of those steps. Are there writeups anywhere? Any additional help would be great. Thanks.
danrw84 said:
cingular is pretty much refusing to sell one of these to me! The local store is out of them, and told me to call cingular to try to get one, and they wont let me have it without signing a contract. now what?
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You should be able to order off line for full retail price of $449 without the contract. Thats where I got mine but had to pay full retail as I had just upgraded my phone with the Cingular 2125. I had 30 days to return the 2125, which I did, so they should credit my account soon with the price difference once it posts. I dont see why you cant just flat out buy it for retail tho. Just my 2c.
i'd love to do that but i cannot find any option online to buy the phone without a contract. how did you do it? I go to cingular.com and I try but cant get it to the card without a plan. I am on the old AT&T so if i try to Upgrade my device, it says i cant, i need to call because i need new plan?
suggestions?. thanks
danrw84: If you go to www.imatephonestore.com you can buy an unlocked phone there. I am using a JasJar with my AT&T SIM. No problems at all. You will have to pay full retail and get a Imate K-Jam which is the same as a Cingular 8125. The phone is $749 so i'm not sure you want to pay that much but it is completely unlocked and you can use with any GSM plan
They are based outside of Chicago so you can get next day service if you wish.
danrw84: If you go to www.imatephonestore.com you can buy an unlocked phone there. I am using a JasJar with my AT&T SIM. No problems at all. You will have to pay full retail and get a Imate K-Jam which is the same as a Cingular 8125. The phone is $749 so i'm not sure you want to pay that much but it is completely unlocked and you can use with any GSM plan
They are based outside of Chicago so you can get next day service if you wish.
749 is quite a bit! Ebay has much better prices on the unlocks.
I got the phone thru cingular today for 314.00 its supposed to arrive tomorrow.
i am going to try to do it myself.
as far as the post from KINetics, anyone know where to get ahold of those ROMS hes refering to?
I did exactly what you're looking to do. I have all the settings if you get a phone. I bought one, cancelled the contract and took the fee hit, then unlocked it, etc.
PM me if you need the settings or have any questions.
is there a way to unlock the t-mobile wing aka HTC Herald or P4350. i wanna make it work on boostmobile service. thanx
call t-mobile and ask them for the unlock code,tell them your going overseas.
it wont work on boost mobile.
But you could still call them and ask for the unlock code, correct?
T-Mobile
T-Mobile has an amazing unlock policy...
If you have a contract with them, just call 611 on your phone and request the unlock code...
Basically, if you're past your 30 day return window, and on a contract, they know they'll get their money back if you change carriers/early terminate...
But then again, with how helpful T-Mobile is, who would want to go to another carrier? ;-)
I'm actually sitting outside my store right now waiting for the FedEx guy to drop off my Wing so I can get on T-Mobile... (I just started working for T-Mobile 2 months ago, and I gotta say, their customer support is amazing by comparison)
+1 on asking T-Mobile. I have had excellent customer service from them, from them replacing a SIM card (the phone was lost, so I had the old SIM card disabled, and unlocked an inexpensive TracFone to work with the new one.)
If T-Mobile won't give the code, I'd hit up the usual denezins on the Internet for unlock stuff. www.imei-check.co.uk comes recommended, and can CID/SIM unlock the Wing for you for about $40.
I have some questions:
1. If I will change ROM to another version. Will it remove operator locking?
2. Or if I will bay code at byIMEI-unlocking service so how often I will need enter this code? Once? Or every rebooting, hard reseting, removing battery?
3. Tell me please and another ways to unlock my phone if I am located not in USA.
Thanks
1. changing the rom will not sim unlock your phone
2. if you go online and buy an unlock code you only have to enter it once, but you will have to enter a sim from another service provider
I just inherited my brother's phone, a wing he used in the states and i owuld like to use it in the UK. can anyone please help? im dying to try this manificent phone
google IMEI CHECK
i know about imei check but i was hoping there would be a free solution out there
unfortunately not at this time for the Wing.
Is the Sim Unlock Available for Wing
Is the Sim Unlock available for Wing Now or still not. Any help will be really appreciated.
No. it's been 2 days! haha
THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO SIM UNLOCK THE PHONE FOR FREE.
Have a T-Mobile user put their SIM card into the phone and call 611 from the phone. Go to Customer Service and inform them that you will be leaving the country and would like to unlock the phone so you can use international prepaid SIM cards to call your aunts and uncles in *insert non-US country here*. They will give you the unlock code for the phone.
This will only work if the T-Mobile user has had the T-Mobile service for more than 30 days. If you are able, have your brother do it from his SIM card since he had the phone previously.
Thanks for the advice. Works!
Ok, just for conversation. Lets say I want to get a new wing with my equipment protection from Tmo. Does a SIM unlock on my old wing make it useable for others?
Equipment protection? Huh? Are you talking about getting it replaced with the insurance? and giving your old one to someone else?
When the phone is locked, it ONLY works under T-mobile.
When the phone is unlocked, it will work with any carrier, ie TMO, ATT, etc..
How about Vodafone NL..
Is there any free solution to sim unlock it ..?
Anyone with a Herald/Atlas or any of its variants ... are all in the same boat. There's no free unlock solution as of yet.
AT&T and T-mobile both have the same policy on unlocks:
- Account must have existed for at least 3 months
- Must not have had an unlock request within the last 3 months
- (Generally) Must be outside the Buyer's Remorse period (30 days)
- Must not be one of the 'special' phones (Sidekick, iPhone)
If the Wing is an upgrade to your existing service, you can get it unlocked after 30 days.
New customers must wait 90 days.
Simple workaround: If you know someone on T-Mobile with an available unlock (one per 90 days, remember), you can just give them the IMEI number, make & model, and they can unlock it from there. They do not check if you're calling from that phone -- but the phone must still belong to the carrier/be branded with that carrier
SO if my phone is "lost" and i get a new phone. Is myold wing good to go for someone else?
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No. it's been 2 days! haha
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Is someone working on unlock for Herald???
I am aware that 3G does not work on AT&T, but for the GSM to work, we need the Unlock Code and also change the APN to cingular APN to enter the google account username and password. Has any one able to use it with AT&T ? I bought the phone on ebay but now its sitting in home doing nothing.
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I am aware that 3G does not work on AT&T, but for the GSM to work, we need the Unlock Code and also change the APN to cingular APN to enter the google account username and password. Has any one able to use it with AT&T ? I bought the phone on ebay but now its sitting in home doing nothing.
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I would recommend finding a friend with tmo. Get the phone unlocked by calling cust service and getting the unlock code from their phone, get logged in and from that point you can adjust the APNs. There was somebody here talking about bypassing the initial login screen... I don't know about that but give it all a try.
syrusfrost said:
I would recommend finding a friend with tmo. Get the phone unlocked by calling cust service and getting the unlock code from their phone, get logged in and from that point you can adjust the APNs. There was somebody here talking about bypassing the initial login screen... I don't know about that but give it all a try.
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Thank you. But I heard that we need 90 days of service to get the unlock code for G1. Is that true ? Also the G1 should be under my friends account to get the unlock code.
rameshb_v said:
Thank you. But I heard that we need 90 days of service to get the unlock code for G1. Is that true ? Also the G1 should be under my friends account to get the unlock code.
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Naa all they ask for is an IMEI. A customer in good standing can get an unlock code every 90 days. Has your friend (hypothetical at this point) received an unlock code for any phone in the past 90 days?
Try it, have your friend call and say that he bought a G1 full price from the store because the rep said if he did they would provide an unlock code and then he could use it when he went to Germany next week.
On a side note, the G1's ARE actually locked? I had heard from the rumor mill that they shipped unlocked.
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Naa all they ask for is an IMEI. A customer in good standing can get an unlock code every 90 days. Has your friend (hypothetical at this point) received an unlock code for any phone in the past 90 days?
Try it, have your friend call and say that he bought a G1 full price from the store because the rep said if he did they would provide an unlock code and then he could use it when he went to Germany next week.
On a side note, the G1's ARE actually locked? I had heard from the rumor mill that they shipped unlocked.
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From what I was told at the store and confirmed by Tmobile CC, There are no G1's being sold at full price right now. You have to buy it with a new contract or upgrade. Meaning they aren't going to let you unlock these until they start selling them with no contract... or after 90 days from the 22nd.
The story from T-Mobile, and my current wait for a SIM unlock code.
neoobs said:
From what I was told at the store and confirmed by Tmobile CC, There are no G1's being sold at full price right now. You have to buy it with a new contract or upgrade. Meaning they aren't going to let you unlock these until they start selling them with no contract... or after 90 days from the 22nd.
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Those statements seem to be incorrect.
I am an ATT user.
I have been told that there are officially two scenarios for acquiring a SIM unlock code for a T-mobile device:
1. A device is purchased full price by a non customer, and T-Mobile requires (at least in the case of the G1) the outsider to FAX an image of the proof of ownership or receipt from the store. The SLA for delivering the SIM unlock code is one week.
2. A device is purchased full price by a customer in good standing for the past 90 days, and the customer can expect delivery the SIM unlock code within 24 hours.
I am an ATT user and purchased a G1 yesterday at the 3rd Street store in San Francisco and was offered no resistance by the SRs at that (particularly well-stocked) store.
I arranged to share the device with a friend who uses T-Mobile, and together we completed a call-in request to T-Mobile support at 1-877-453-1304 to obtain by e-mail a SIM unlock code for the device to go along with the IMEI number beneath the G1's battery.
The SR on the telephone said that it would take "up to" 24 hours to complete the current request. I have in the past acquired such a SIM unlock code for a T-Mobile device, and received the appropriate e-mail message within four hours of completing the request.
I'm still waiting for the SIM unlock code and haven't received the e-mail message in the past 15 hours, but hope springs eternal.
Also, note that pre-paid customers seem to have *no* Unlock privileges as far as T-Mobile is concerned. I stepped through the process with a friend who buys minutes as she goes, and we were bounced several times between the regular service representatives and the prepaid SRs, getting language barrier, slow comprehension and shallow knowledge from these professionals on every front. They were nice about things, though.
Yes it works on AT&T after unlocking
rameshb_v said:
I am aware that 3G does not work on AT&T, but for the GSM to work, we need the Unlock Code and also change the APN to cingular APN to enter the google account username and password. Has any one able to use it with AT&T ? I bought the phone on ebay but now its sitting in home doing nothing.
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Hi, I did the same. I bought the phone from ebay and then got the unlock code from ebay. We just have to change the APN settings and everything is working fine (of course except 3G). Usually getting the unlock code takes a day or two.
Alternately, if you want feel the phone, buy a T-Mobile SIM card for $10-$20 bucks and everything works fine. At least phone will get activated.
A reported shortcut that obviates the need to get a SIM unlock code.
I just saw Matt Buchanan post this on Gizmodo: http://gizmodo.com/5068242/use-the-t+mobile-g1-without-activating-itl
"If you don't wanna spring for the two-year contract or wait out the 90 days 'til T-Mobile will unlock the G1 for you, getting it going without actually activating it is remarkably easy. Just snag an active T-Mobile SIM card from a friend (or foe), pop it in to get through the setup process, and after enabling Wi-Fi, you can drop it like it's hot. 'Course, it won't make any phone calls, but that's not why you wanted a G1 anyway, right?"
g1 at&t apn settings
hi im using a G1 on at&t my settings are as follows
apn:wap.cingular
proxy blank
port blank
username:wap.cingulargps.com
password:CINGULAR1 must be in caps
server blank
mmsc:mmsc.cingular.com
mms proxy: blank
mms port:80
mcc:310
mnc:41
apn type blank
everything seems to work except mms
if anyone has any info on mms settings please let me know
thanks
Just spoke with a T-Mo rep. For ME, I have to wait until the end of the 14 days buyer's remorse period to get my unlock code, it is provided within 24 hours of the request being made.
Upgrade status does not affect unlock codes, I was right with what I said before. You can request an unlock code every 90 days if your account is in good standing. After the 14 days buyer's remorse period has expired you may request an unlock code.
@rameshb_v Find a friend and have him/her do as I said above, tell the rep on the phone that the phone was purchased full price. In the past I had heard it rumored that sometimes they request proof of purchase, I don't know about it. I am unlocking mine at the end of the 14 day period. If your friend cant get it done for some reason you can have anyone on this forum that is willing call in with your IMEI and have "their" phone unlocked after the 14 day remorse period.
I got my unlock code yesterday...
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I got my unlock code yesterday...
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Ah! Did you get it from a rep? If so what strategy did you use? I got blackballed with the 14 day thing.
I've been a Tmo customer since 1999(VoiceStream). I told him I wanted to get my unlock code. He requested it from HTC like they usually do. Then I got my email 2 days later. It is usually 24 hours this one took a little longer. That was all...
It was all via T-Mobile representative...
Does anyone have the unlock code or a way to hack the G1????
i got my unlock code the same day i got the phone... and i've only been a tmobile customer for (as of today) 3 days now.
military perks
MMS problems? APN Settings also
whenever i receive a picture message from someone...there is a download button on the right side..whenver i press it i get an error telling me it could not download the message.
checked tmobiles support forums..nothing there for a solution..
any ideas?
check auto-retrieve box in mms settings.
that is checked already..i can send a message to myself..but incoming messages dont work. i was able to get them on my free POS nokia haha
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that is checked already..i can send a message to myself..but incoming messages dont work. i was able to get them on my free POS nokia haha
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I noticed after the update it started giving me a download option... I am wondering if this has to do with the network issues. Everytime I download it seems to download just fine... Do you think maybe whatever they sent you isn't compatible yet?
possibly..i applied the update..incoming mms wasnt letting me download before then either..
i have tested something else too..seems i can get mms from other tmobile users...just not from outside networks...weirddd
I have an Orange HTC HD2 on to which I have loaded two different Android systems and they have worked fine. However, as Orange seem expensive I bought a 'three' 3GB SIM from eBay.
It worked today in a phone in a 'three' store and 'three' shows up with the Orange SIM in my phone (but, unsurprisingly, the Orange SIM will not allow me to connect). I have unlocked my phone from Orange, but with the 'three' SIM I get no service, no networks, no APNs - nothing - apart from it briefly saying, I think, it has registered with the network and it then reports "Error while searching for networks"
I would be grateful for any advice.
Is you phone sim unlocked?
If not then that would be why it cannot get any signal...
Yes, I have a SIM network unlock PIN which when I enter the phone reports "Network unlock succesful".
I am a bit lost... Did it work under wimo with different sims. Could be the unlock code has to be entered with wimo as things are not correctly configured in android.
I have only used the 'three' SIM with Android (Pure Gingerbread gpc and BoyPPC versions).
Could it be that the unlock code I have entered has not properly unlocked the phone - despite the message "Network unlock succesful" as above?
Yeah possibly put wimo back on and enter unlock code then. Test and see. If it still does not work I would contact orange to see what the problem is...
you only need to enter the code once to unlock, are you able to enter it more than once?
I have to enter the unlock code each time I boot from cold and when I switch airplane mode off.
I really would go back to wimo and do it there something is not being saved properly...
Chris,
I find that's easier said than done.
Can you point me at a UK Orange WM6.5 ROM for the HTC HD2?
sounds like its only a temporary unlock code not a full unlock code
Well tbh any wimo rom would work. but on that front
but here is the 3.14 rom straight from HTC
http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=1049
If you flash from PC it will NOT overwrite HSPL.
Just enter bootloader -> connect to PC then flash.
Also where did you get the unlock code from?
I had my HD2 with Orange lock on it as standard, all i did was go to a reliable known unlock site, unlock it to all networks in windows mobile.
Then flash android.
I now run a Three 3g sim card and it's the best network and cheapest ive used.
3g speeds are awesome.
I NEVER got above 400-500kbps on Orange...it was ****!
From the very first day I put my Three pay as you go sim in, i've never got below 2,000 kbps - awesome.
Average connection is 3-5 meg.
Price = awesome.
£10.00 top up = 1500 free texts + 500mb internet
I pay an extra £5.00 for 500mb internet....wicked
matt
My contracts ends very soon and will be moving to giffgaff as it seems the best value for money, runs of o2 so will be reliable. Friends do and never had a problem with it. Even though this drags it off topic, do you get any minutes in that £10 top up Matt?
just a fyi £10 on giffgaff 300 xnet mins unlimited txt and truly unlimited internet (as long as you do not tether)
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My contracts ends very soon and will be moving to giffgaff as it seems the best value for money, runs of o2 so will be reliable. Friends do and never had a problem with it. Even though this drags it off topic, do you get any minutes in that £10 top up Matt?
just a fyi £10 on giffgaff 300 xnet mins unlimited txt and truly unlimited internet (as long as you do not tether)
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i just moved to giffgaff and its 250 min not 300 internet speeds at the moment are piss poor slow, but is being investigated, signal strength doesnt seem to be as good as o2 directly
no minuytes on three for that, they do offer £10 and i think its 100min + unlimited txts and 500meg of data, i havea three sim at home with a tenner on it but signal is crap in my area
Chris,
I am reporting back the results of my endeavours which, you may guess, do not appear to have succeeded.
I tried your link and others on the page but was met with "Sorry this software download is not susitable for your device". My serial number starts with SH.
So I have tried WP7. I have to enter the unlock code each time I cold boot and get "PIN accepted" each time. However, when using the connection set up app I get "Warning There is no SIM card or PIN code has not been input.
I got the unlock code from HTCimeiUnlock.com. It cost me £15.54 (or $25). Is it , as Richy suggests, a temporary unlock code that does not seem to work even temporarily.
Any further ideas?
Go back to them and say it did not work. ask for a return, never know may get your money back.
There is a better one, honestly I cannot remember the name. helpful eh? thought it was HTC unlocks but that does not do the leo.... was going to suggest unlockitnow.com but its $70!
Since the 4shared folder is now up here is a link to the orange rom
http://www.4shared.com/file/Oc0SHxFY/RUU_Leo_S_Orange_UK_314612_Rad.html?
So then I would try to call orange ask nicely and see if they will give you an unlock code. Do not know if they are kind, most do a O2 give them out for free after a month or so... and T-mobile too. No idea about orange....
Chris,
Thanks for your help. I've just grabbed the Orange ROM from 4shared.
I am drawn the the conclusion that my unlock code is defective. I'll ask for my money back.
Does anyone know a reliable source for unlocking an Orange HTC HD2?
Just a note to say that HTCimeiUnlock.com have provided a refund.
I guess my only avenue now is to ask Orange for an unlock code.