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Help! This can't be right.

I want to keep my two weeks old 8525 but the batt life is just not right.
Yesterday, it was 100% at 6am.
I have some phone calls but they were not long by any scretch, 1-2 mins long.
By 3pm, it was at 30% and by 4pm, it was at the 20% where BT won't work anymore.
And I haven't even used BT, wifi e.g. the whole day.
Last night, it was 100% charged so I turned off the radio and pda and unplugged it before bed.
This am, I turned the radio on and the phone was at 70% !!
I made a speakerphone call to my sister for 3 minutes.
The battery is now at 60% !!.
Could it be I'm not using the correct ac charger which I haven't broken out in light of the fact that I may have to return it.
I didn't think using my abundant Moto mini-usb chargers was a problem since it does reach 100%.
That said, though for some reason, my mini-usb car charger I used for my 8125, won't charge the 8525 at all.
I don't have any background apps nor any timed email retrievals.
Perhaps I have a defective batt or something.
Could it be that Mortsaver is sipping power continously?
Could it be because of 3g eventhough I see 'E' most of the time?
Does ne1 know how I can set the 8525 to just use Edge instead of 3g?
Thanks in advance.

bdbx18 said:
I want to keep my two weeks old 8525 but the batt life is just not right.
Yesterday, it was 100% at 6am.
I have some phone calls but they were not long by any scretch, 1-2 mins long.
By 3pm, it was at 30% and by 4pm, it was at the 20% where BT won't work anymore.
And I haven't even used BT, wifi e.g. the whole day.
Last night, it was 100% charged so I turned off the radio and pda and unplugged it before bed.
This am, I turned the radio on and the phone was at 70% !!
I made a speakerphone call to my sister for 3 minutes.
The battery is now at 60% !!.
Could it be I'm not using the correct ac charger which I haven't broken out in light of the fact that I may have to return it.
I didn't think using my abundant Moto mini-usb chargers was a problem since it does reach 100%.
That said, though for some reason, my mini-usb car charger I used for my 8125, won't charge the 8525 at all.
I don't have any background apps nor any timed email retrievals.
Perhaps I have a defective batt or something.
Could it be that Mortsaver is sipping power continously?
Could it be because of 3g eventhough I see 'E' most of the time?
Does ne1 know how I can set the 8525 to just use Edge instead of 3g?
Thanks in advance.
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check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844 for a today plug in that will allow you to use G instead of U... and the 8525 doesnt come with an E icon so you shouldnt see that unless you did something to change it.... Also battery life does suck on the 8525.. and you will want to break out the charger for this phone.. The moto charger is only a .5amp and may not actually charge your phone sometimes, whereas the factory charger is 1amp

shogunmark said:
check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844 for a today plug in that will allow you to use G instead of U... and the 8525 doesnt come with an E icon so you shouldnt see that unless you did something to change it.... Also battery life does suck on the 8525.. and you will want to break out the charger for this phone.. The moto charger is only a .5amp and may not actually charge your phone sometimes, whereas the factory charger is 1amp
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Hey Thanks!!! This would explain why the RAZR car charger they sold me at the cingular story doesn't always work to charge my hermes.....

slimsaturn said:
Hey Thanks!!! This would explain why the RAZR car charger they sold me at the cingular story doesn't always work to charge my hermes.....
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that could also be a grounding problem with the car charger.. we had a thread somewhere about all of that though.

bdbx18 - please use useful topic titles in your threads.
Do you know how many times I've throttled chipmunks using a reticulating fandango?
V

shogunmark said:
that could also be a grounding problem with the car charger.. we had a thread somewhere about all of that though.
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Shogunmark
Think this is the one you were thinking of:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1076879&postcount=28
Mike

hey, theres that link i was looking for.. maybe i should save my replies for when i am near a pc so i can start finding links instead of using opera mobile on my phone..
and Mike, i hop thre isnt n e typ0s n ths post

I only remembered link cos I wrote a battery charging thingy for the wiki that's got that link. Speaking of typos I once wrote an article for a student paper which should have read "Exotic cocktails to cater for all tastes" but it actually read "Erotic cocktails to cater for all testes"
Mike

You two moderators are doing a great job upholding decorum in this thread. Don't make me come over there and spank you - somebody already seems to have a little something on the brain
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well mod or not, something like this was bound to happen sooner or later... ok.. im done i promise

Just joking! And you (shogunmark) should be asleep!
V

vijay555 said:
Just joking! And you (shogunmark) should be asleep!
V
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im a trooper, i came to work today, that is where i am now
and now V is hijacking the thread

Thanks a bunch. Its 16 hrs now with about the same daily usage and I'm at 50%. Only difference is that I topped off the charge via my PC's usb. Either that or I'm no where near a 3G connection today.
Still I'm definitely going to break the ac adapter. It's practically the point of no return since I just finished converting the earphones to a 3.5 mm plug so I can resume using my phone to play mp3s in the car and home.
I'm on wifi now for the last 30 mins and the charge is still at the halfway point. So this one is a keeper.

battery problem....wont charge if 0%

ok, on my xda mini s, if i plug the charger in at 2% to 99% it charges fine
but, i let the battery go so dead that it wont charge. so i bought another one and it did the same
is there a software fix for this? can i charge the batteries another way? both are only 6 weeks old and charge fine in my mates mini s (one of the first ones) mine is only 6 weeks old
its now getting very annoying
thanks

What are you running? G3 or G4, IPL/SPL, ROM version??

hi mate
ipl 2.21.001
spl 2.21.001
gsm 0.2.07.10
os 2.21.4.1
so just to clarify, I think there needs to be a tiny amount of power the the device to power it enough to recognise the charger is plugged in
i have 2 batteries with 0% energy - none will charge. The 3rd battery charges fine if more then 1% is left before I stick the charger in
thanks

Actually my boss had the same problem with his 8125. He was running wi-fi & music and it killed the battery all the way dead. I don't think there's a fix. He had to buy a new battery.

Read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1206238&postcount=9

Looks like mfrazzz has the answer!

wow, ok i am a nuby and you might not like the solution but, every time my battery runs out completely and i cant charge it, disconnect the charger trust me on this one, lick the top of the charger connect it back and at first it will show a red light leave it there for about 4 minutes, then disconnect it and connect it back and your battery will start chargin again. trust me on this one ive done it like 4 times.

mafioso617 said:
wow, ok i am a nuby and you might not like the solution but, every time my battery runs out completely and i cant charge it, disconnect the charger trust me on this one, lick the top of the charger connect it back and at first it will show a red light leave it there for about 4 minutes, then disconnect it and connect it back and your battery will start chargin again. trust me on this one ive done it like 4 times.
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Dude!! I just have to ask...
HOW DID YOU FIGURE THAT OUT??? I mean, where you just sitting around thinking... Hmmm... I think I'll lick the top and stick it in.. hummm... I guess I'll leave it in for about 2 min... no... 3 min... oooo I think 4 min would be perfect.. then I'll unplug it and ummm... plug it back in!! Oh yeah!! That will do it!!!
Just kidding around!!!

wow, amazing stuff thanks
can i get an external charger/docker for the batteries?
do ALL these devices have the same problem or just the newer ones? my old one didnt do it (unless it still had some power in it)
Thanks

There is both a battery charger that you stick your battery in and a cradle that charges both your Wizard and also has a slot for a second battery. I couldn't find the single battery charger, but the dock can be found by searching for 8125 twin cradle.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Twin-Desktop-Cr...ryZ15037QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

mfrazzz said:
Read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1206238&postcount=9
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hi mate,
my battery does not have any markings to say + and -
do you know which is which?
thanks

m2rvh said:
my battery does not have any markings to say + and -
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Ok, on my 8125 with the battery oriented exactly how it sits in the phone, the + is the top most contact and the - is the bottom most contact.

Here's a pic of a battery I found and you can just make out the + (red) / - (black) on the pic.
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im not trying to ruin this great party, but were you trying to charge your MDA with the USB cord after you drained it? cuz u have to charge by A/C....
ohh and that licking thing....it works with AA batteries, 'cept you put them under your armpits for a few minutes

Best car charger for Kaiser?

As the title says!
I need a car charger and i don't know what to buy...
i wanted something that can last at least 6 months without having the cable damaged due to stretching

I use the cable of my TomTom One XL. Same voltage...

I like using my ebay-bought USB adapter and retractable mini-usb cable. Cuts down on the mess, and lets me charge other USB devices.

I use Motorola OEM that I got long time ago (4 years back with my first RAZR) - It works no problem
I also use regular USB cable with my wife's iPhone car charger and works fine too... So I guess Blackberry charger will do the same since I use Blackberry as home charger too occasionaly

Note that many of the miniusb chargers will not work consistently. Elsewhere here on the forum there are extensive details, but in short, HTC compliant chargers (meaning will charge 100% of the time) short pins 4-5 on the mini usb port. This is not implemented in normal mini usb chargers. The normal (non-HTC compliant) will usually work but not always.

Read about a small percentage that seemed to have trouble (RLOD related trouble) from cheap or non-HTC chargers, so I got a true HTC OEM at www.tiltdepot.com. Best $25 I've spent.

I have used a tomtom car(borrowed from my mom) charger too, wich is 2.0 Ah, but found out the HTC charger (same 2.0 Ah same voltage) charged a lot better than the tomtom one. After one hour(started with a 3/4 charged battary) the tomtom was pretty much the same(3/4) and the HTC one was fully charged.

Yep... With the TomTom charger I believe the charging current is limited because the HTC phone sees it as potentially a data connection. The HTC charger has short between pins 4 and 5 addresses that. Hard to beat the HTC charger.

Naztech Premium LCD Display Car Charger:
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http://www.naztech.com/products.php?id_prod=40
The "11 Foot Heavy-Duty Cord" is nice... it's coiled tightly, and long enough to get to wherever you need to in the front of the cab, be it a center console or a seat. The digital display tells you how long it's been charging, and changes color when still charging the device (blue is standby, orange is charging). Nothing beats the Naztech for a USB car charger. I have the silver one, but it looks like the newer ones are black; you can probably get your choice of either if you get one off of Ebay like I did.
They have lots of other cool products for phones, too.

Help - charging notification?

Hi,
I have just started to try my first charge on my HD. I have not got the sim card or memory card installed, just the battery.
Should I be seeing some form of light or something when it is charging? As at the moment nothing seems to be happening, do I need the sim card & memory card installed to charge the phone?

The charging light is on the power button.
You should see a tiny LED at the power button. You may refer to the manual for further details on the colour and notification of the LED.

Well it looks like the plug in charger doesn't work . The actual USB cable does work though. Bloody annoying cos I will have to return the phone to get a replacement.

Hi AFK_Matrix!
my plug in charger didn't work either. Had to hold the usb cable at an angle to make it work.
I sent the charger and usb cable back to Clove and they sent me replacements by return of post.
I guess they took those out of a new box, put my faulty one's in it, and sent it all back to HTC.
Ofiaich

Well I just hope that Expansys are as nice as Clove!! Really don't fancy returning the whole phone!!

Hi AFK_Matrix,
I hope so too, I made it clear to Clove that I like the phone and do not want to be without it. I also said I would do a factory store and ask for a full refund, because I was within the 14 day period.
Good luck
Ofiaich

AFK_Matrix said:
Well it looks like the plug in charger doesn't work . The actual USB cable does work though. Bloody annoying cos I will have to return the phone to get a replacement.
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Don't jump to a quick conclusion of returning your Phone.... See my topic ' Intermittent ReCharge Light'.
It looks like you have the same problem.
The only workaround I have found is if no light comes on, power the Phone down and then reconnect the USB power charger.
Plug it into the mains electric charger and you will then notice the red charging light will come on.
I have not found out yet what is causing the error but it does appear switching the phone off followed by connecting to the charger then makes it work.
Note: Once you have the red charge light showing you can then switch your Phone back on again if you want it operating whilst charging.
Me..... I just leave it off whilst it's charging as it doesn't take long and at least doing what I said above you do get the light changing from red to green when it is fully charged.
Beards.

Thanks for the suggestion Beards but I actually had the phone off when I first plugged it in and have tried wiggling the cable and pushing the plug in more etc and its having none of it!! So I am charging it via the computer, will be on the phone to expansys on Monday morning.

So sorry it didn't work for you.
Such a shame for you....... my heart goes out to your concerns.
Beards

Just thought I would give an update.
Just phoned up Expansys and barring any problems a new Charger should be with me by tomorrow or Wednesday. I didn't have to return the broken one either!!
I am feeling very happy that I went with Expansys, sure the deal may have been a bit more expensive but the Customer service of Expansys has been faultless!!! Plus I am only on a 12month contract so can change plans, providers etc next November.

AFK_Matrix said:
Just thought I would give an update.
Just phoned up Expansys and barring any problems a new Charger should be with me by tomorrow or Wednesday. I didn't have to return the broken one either!!
I am feeling very happy that I went with Expansys, sure the deal may have been a bit more expensive but the Customer service of Expansys has been faultless!!! Plus I am only on a 12month contract so can change plans, providers etc next November.
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That's great..... I just hope it was the charger and not the USB cable that is causing you grief.
....or worse it's neither!
Please do let us know. If it works I will be on the phone to Clove to request the same.
Beards.

Hi Beards,
Nope definetly not the cable as it charges fine if I hook it upto the PC. Its just the bit that plugs into the wall socket.
I will let you know when I get the replacement if it works (touch wood it does!!).

Fingers crossed for you mate....
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Well looks like I spoke to soon. Just had an email from Expansys saying that they can't send out seperate parts and that I have to return the whole unit .
Just gotta confirm with them about payment for me shipping it back to them.

This seems quite drastic for what is needed.
Why not try and source a USB charger off the internet.
You can pick them up on ebay for just a couple of pounds.
Beards

Hi Beards,
Well I was a little annoyed too about having to send the phone back. So was in the middle of replying to the email saying that I really wouldn't want to return my phone but if I had to then I didn't want to have to pay to return it.
Then the phone rang and a nice gentleman from Expansys phoned and said ignore the RMA email as he was sending out one of Expansys's generic chargers to me I have just now recieved an email order confirmation for this charger.
I tell you Expansys haven't put a foot wrong yet!! (Touch wood this continues)

Hopefully the generic charger should do the trick.
I remember my Mio A701's charger wouldn't work and I got hold of one of these generic USB chargers and it did the trick.
What I found was the charger that came with the machine simply did not have enough power to charge the phone......
Beards

what car charger do i buy?

hi all
i would like to buy car charger for td2 and want to make sure i get the official correct one, i am thinking of getting ''HTC CC100 Mini USB In-Car Charger'' is this the correct one as i have noticed the usb input on td2 is slightly different shape to my old xda orbit usb, any feedback would be usefull if u got car charger for td2
thanks

http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=179154

Is it really necessary to pay the premium price for a 'genuine' charger?
The device charges from any USB port, so any car charger designed to power mini-USB socket devices should work, should it not?

Any USB charger will do the job.

tstone78 said:
Any USB charger will do the job.
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I found with my 500mA charger, that while navigating for a long time (2 hours), my battery still drains..
The original HTC charger is a 2A charger, that can keep up charging while navigating.

Very interesting find there! I just ordered a Brodit kit for the car and this time round, I went for a active one so I just slot the phone in and it charges.
I will have to find out what current it gives out because I would potentially use navigation especially as I am recently finding the Audi one can be really crap!
On another note, I bought a premium HTC original one - it lasted all of a month and bearing in mind I must have used it 3 times in total...Was shocked!
What I found was that I had to hold it in a certain way to charge however, it was NOT the charger and it was NOT the phone.
For example, the charge worked fine on a Diamond1 but not 2.
For example, the phone worked with USB cables so its not the port.
Let's see how the brodit kit goes!

so can i use my old xda orbit charger and i have an old usb car charger adapter that was for something else so can i just stick in the td2 usb cable into that and charge it, i am just a bit overley concerned as i had to send 1st td2 back as it only held full charge for 45mins and i dont know if i damaged it by using wrong usb charger

I (we) have the HTC CC C100 USB Car Charger.
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Nice and beautiful charger. We use it for my HTC TD2 and her HTC S310, earlier I used it for my TyTN II too. In my car there is a passive Brodit holder for my TD2.
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Is it really necessary to pay the premium price for a 'genuine' charger?
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I've a car of "premium" mark, so there must be a premium charger.

Black-Rose...where does your "premium-mark" have its charger connector? I consider mine to be "premium" too but the location of the cigg. plug is in such a bad location !
OK I have heard from Brodit this morning - very short and straight to the point reply:
Thank you for the mail.
Cigg plugg ca. 800 mAh
Fixed installation 2A
I don't have time to get it done properly in terms of the fixed installation and no doubt it will cost a lot more too for the product. I'll see how the 800mAh goes with navi too...if it's bad, then I'll have to invest in the HTC cable again and hope it works this time.

i use HTC CC C100 as well, which came with my Polaris. it works fine with both my last Nike and Topaz now.

OK Ended up telling Clove to cancel the Active holder and change for Passive
Just not worth the risk if Im lacking that much in the charger/current
But I got the new HTC C100 today - works fine with the phone