I Have read plenty of threads on xda, and searched the htcwiki and have found no conclusive evidence. I have heard that it's only software differences between sd and sdhc and i've heard it's hardware. All I want to see are reports of working sdhc cards on the Wizard and only the wizard, if their are any. If anyone has one to post if they could PLEASE post:
1. Size of card
2. Brand of card
3. Rom
4. S/N (HT618xxxxxxx only 2 letters and 3 numbers)
5. Any registry edits/CAB Files/Hacks/Dlls
I understand some people have strong feelings about this, I only want confirmed working SDHC posts anything else is as useless as the other indecisive threads. If there are no working instances, there should be no posts. Thank you very much, I'm sorry if I come off frustrated but arguing back and forth is useless, only working evidence will prove it to me, if there is none then i am convinced it's a hardware problem.
p.s. If any are found working, where u purchased the card would be great too thanks
p.s.s. I have researched this a little bit, if you have any definitive information on SDHC cards (not 4gb standard SD) for use with the wizard I'd appreciate it
Well, if you will look 2 sub-forums down under the Wizard forum, you will find the topic that you are looking for....2 seconds of searching would have solved your problem.
Here is the link-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297324
You see, I did see that post, 2 seconds of reading it would inform you that i have a different question. That post says SDHC does not work, while many will say it does, i'm asking for examples of WORKING SDHC cards, besides that SD cards only go to 2gb. 4 gb SD cards are fake/hacked or non compliant, that's according to www.sdcard.org, the official on these matters. SanDisk doesn't even make them, nor does any other reputable brand. I've done some homework on this one, thanks for trying to help anyways.
Here's my take on it:
The Wizard does not support SDHC.
There are some 4GB cards that are not SDHC but some in-between standard that came out before SDHC was settled on.
Some Wizards support 4GB cards that use this in-between standard.
So the trick will be finding some of those cards and hoping you have one of the Wizards that can support it. I seriously doubt anyone is making 4GB cards that use that in-between standard anymore since SDHC has become a standard.
Personally I think the mini-sd slot on the Wizard is generally flaky. I have to re-insert my card numerous times to get it to read, and there are some 2GB cards that don't read at all, whereas the 1GB cards seem to always work. 2GB is not enough if you're running TomTom (whose maps take up over 1GB).
Sounds like a pretty good take to me. I have a 2 gb card and it seems to work pretty well actually, i wanted something larger so i could use it as my mp3 player as well. I guess i'll try to find a working 4 gig and hope my wizard supports it... Thanks for your input.
Sounds good, if you find one that works, please let me know, I'm very interested! Mine starts with HTC626 which I haven't seen on the other threads (I've seen HTC616 but not HTC626). Good luck!
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I just bought an transcend 2gb 80x card and it works untill i leave the phone for a bit or it has done some kind of acces to the card and all of a
sudden the card is not seen by the phone.
Now i am going to write a mail to see what can be the problem since it
works fine in my card-reader in my pc. On the other hand it works fine in
the phone too untill it suddenly dissapeared. One time i seen this 2 files that
where on the card after it "died" .. one little file and some sort of bin file .
which looked to me like it was some sort of cd image..
Anyone had similar problems ?
Allthough i read somewhere that so called SDHC are not supported i found
some registry values in the device area that at least tells the operating system supports it, so does the build-in card reader. which suggests that 4gb cards should work, but i'm no guru at this matter so i cant tell for sure.
here is a site which has a lot of minisd cards http://www.flash-memory-store.com/mini-secure-digital.html
If you bought a 4gb miniSD card you got ripped off.
There is no such thing available to the public yet.
Any miniSD card claiming to be 4gb are just miniSD cards that are actually smaller capacity with hacked firmware to make them appear as 4gb to operating systems.
If you don't believe me have a look at Transcend's official website:
http://www.transcendusa.com/Products/ModDetail.asp?ModNo=17&LangNo=0
No 4gb cards listed. Only 2gb.
SanDisk is working on a new miniSD standard called miniSDHC that will be able to hold 4gb of data, but current miniSD devices will not be able to use this miniSDHC cards.
Read up on SanDisk's website here:
http://www.sandisk.com/Corporate/PressRoom/PressReleases/PressRelease.aspx?ID=3530
I beg to differ. I just loaded my MiniSD card that I bought on eBay PAST 2gb (with porn RSS feeds nonetheless) and it's working just fine. There have also been other successful cards purchased from well known retails.
2GB MiniSD formatted = 1907MB (or around that) showing on the memory readout for memory card... I have used 1964mb and am still writing, now 1965, and 66. As long as it works and I don't lose data, fine. I could care less. Most of us have hacked our Wizards, which could have severe repercussions in the future, but does it really seem like any of us care?
If they were hacked to appear as 4gb and only 2gb, that would MEAN that at 1907mb, my device would have crashed because it couldn't write anymore even though it thinks it can. However, that is not the case with these cards, and to hack the card to put some sort of "compression" built in, is impractical, not feasible, and impossible without some software or extra hardware chip in the middle of the entire process, thus raising the cost of them. There is none of that at work here, this is straight up flash memory, 4gb of it. The fact that I'm speaking from experience, watching my Wizard RIGHT NOW writing more than 2gb of data to the card with no problem, able to play the video back without issue, says, in all practicality, that the damn thing is 4gb and works. Now if you want to dispute this I am attaching screenshots from inside the device proving this point.
Oh and if you're looking for a working 4gb card like I have: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1100646
You don't seem to understand how solid state memory works.
Come back in a month or 2 and let me know how well that card is working for you
I gaurantee you that card will die in a short amount of time.
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You don't seem to understand how solid state memory works.
Come back in a month or 2 and let me know how well that card is working for you
I gaurantee you that card will die in a short amount of time.
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So what you're sitting there telling me, is that manufacturers knowingly produce 4gb+ capacity flash chips, and then mark them 2gb with a "firmware" flash? How insane is that? Flash chips are based on the same level of technology that RAM is. Switching circuits, 1 OR 0, and there is a predefined and set amount of switching circuits on any chip as manufactured by the companies. Now, what you're sitting here trying to tell me, is by a simple "firmware" flash, these chips are holding DOUBLE their original PHYSICAL capacity on a technology that is a static, unexpandable, and certainly not double-bit compatible. How much else are you going to say to defend this? Just your "wait 2 months and tell me how that card is working"? It's not going to cut it, you cannot make a 2gb card appear as a 4gb and then enable it to fill the card to 4gb. There is only 1 type of "flash" memory that is double-bit, it's expensive as ****, and would certainly not afford such low pricetags as we're finding. Your arguement is flawed. Show me some documentation on a solid state flash card, NAND to be specific, that has the ability to "expand" it's capacity BEYOND it's physical limitations. Look up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory
Just defending my point.
I'm not going to argue a point I already proved in my 1st post.
Read the 2 links.
as far as i know there is no miniSD 4gb card. THERE IS HOWEVER A 4Gb SDHC mini. From other posts that i have read on cingular, all you need to do is forat the card on an external reader on your computer and then the card will read and write like a mini SD card
http://www.transcendusa.com/Products/ModDetail.asp?ModNo=129&LangNo=0
Just wondering why there is still so much rumor about that topic - dozens of people already reported 4GB miniSD cards to work on their PDAs and hundreds of them have been sold at ebay. Nobody ever complained about a 4GB card (NOT marked as SDHC) not to work on their PDA - so what's the point in questioning that?? I personally don't care whether these ones are HC or not, as long as they work and hold 4GB of data, which was proofed by so many people...
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Just wondering why there is still so much rumor about that topic - dozens of people already reported 4GB miniSD cards to work on their PDAs and hundreds of them have been sold at ebay. Nobody ever complained about a 4GB card (NOT marked as SDHC) not to work on their PDA - so what's the point in questioning that?? I personally don't care whether these ones are HC or not, as long as they work and hold 4GB of data, which was proofed by so many people...
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THANK YOU! Yeesh, how hard is it to ACCEPT that there are 4gb miniSD cards, even if they're NOT made and marked by some big overpriced company? You'd buy a stick of 4gb DDR or DDR2 RAM for your computer if it was available, even if it was with a brand you'd never heard of, or no brand marking at all. Why the hell should miniSD be any different?
GldRush, your two links, point to a specific manufacturer's "standards" for how to make a 4gb miniSD work (when other companies have already adapted normal miniSD to 4gb), and an online retailer (who's not obligated to carry a 4gb miniSD or may not have any in stock). My link however points towards known information proving my point in the fact you can't have more memory than there is physically storable, no matter how you "hack" a card. (Change alloc tables, it just changes sector sizes, compression is illogical and impractical, hacking the card to appear as 4gb when it's a 2gb yields the results we saw from another person's venture showing half-full card all the time.) You say your point is proven with those 2 links, it's not.
can you point us to this topic jimmyjam ?
as i looked on transcend site i came up to this:
compatibilitylist for wizard memcards
now my question is wouldn't it be a strange idea to think this 4gb minisd normal ones are actually refurnished mmc cards ?
here is the datasheet of the card i bought :
pdf datasheet 2gb 80x transcend minisd
so it should be working fine in my wizard but it does strange things... same happend in this other wizard before and after a new rom upgrade.. and in this nokia n73... but the cardreader which is a usb2.0 56-sorts-of-memcard-reading device has no problem with it. I'm totally lost on it. could it be the power the card needs or its thin size ?
Hi, I've been browsing around the forums trying to work out whether a 4GB MiniSD or MiniSDHC card will work with the Trinity or not, but I can't seem to get a definite answer..
For those of you, who have successfully been using 4GB (MiniSD or MiniSDHC) for a long while now, (> 1 month preferably), how did you get it working? i.e. how did you format it, are you using a different ROM, etc.
My device will be the Orange SPV M700 (I haven't got it yet), if I flash it with, say, a Dopod ROM, what are the advantages/disadvantages?
Thanks for the help!
I have a DoPOD d810, i also would like to know if it can handle a 4GB MiniSD.
Please reply if you have any experience with this issue.
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I have a DoPOD d810, i also would like to know if it can handle a 4GB MiniSD.
Please reply if you have any experience with this issue.
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Listen up guys...How many threads does it take to get this issue solved? I have been using a TopRam 4gb miniSD for 3 months. I'm a power user with TomTom, video apps and audio apps all running directly from the miniSD card. The card is 85% full of nav maps, music and videos. I have never had an issue with this setup running the Dopod Test Rom found in the Wiki of this site. It works for me, that is all I can say. Apparently there are some rom versions that have had issues in the past.
Thanks.
I also saw some other threads on this issue, it would seem that the Trancsend 4GB MiniSD is the most promising.
At this point, it's hit or miss. While a few users report no problems, many others have had problems with not only the 4gb, but smaller cards as well.
I, for one, have a 2gb card that works flawlessly, and a 4gb card that wont last a day without errors. My belief is that this has more to do with the brand/manufacturer than anything else
ausi said:
Thanks.
I also saw some other threads on this issue, it would seem that the Trancsend 4GB MiniSD is the most promising.
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Im having major probs with my 4GB trancsend SDHC card.
It no longer is recognised through my card reader / HTC P3600
Tested on all ROMs that are available to download. Still trying to find a solution.
sTe said:
Im having major probs with my 4GB trancsend SDHC card.
It no longer is recognised through my card reader / HTC P3600
Tested on all ROMs that are available to download. Still trying to find a solution.
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From what i saw in some forums you should not use "SDHC" (yet, till HTC solve the problem) but normal one and Format FAT/FAT32
Just wondering from users who have SDHC cards: do they work well in Trinity or not? I have read too much contradictory information...some say yes others say no. Let's settle this once and for all. Thanks!
Hi PSargent,
I'm using a SanDisk MicroSDHC 4 Gb with MiniSD adapter.
After applying "miniSD HC Patch v2.2.cab" it worked, but if I soft-reset the device with the card inserted it disappears. I have to remove it, reset, and re-insert after boot.
I'm still trying to find a way to make it work better.
Best regards,
Paulo.
I'm using the Kingston 4GB mini SDHC Flash Card Model SDM6/4GB.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134518
No problems at all. I do have a strange issue where sometimes when I take out the card, when I reinsert it it shows as a new card (Card2, Card3, etc.) which can throw off some of the programs and email/internet storage. Reseting the device and running the SD fix usually fixes it though.
The Class 6 seems to be faster than my old Class 2.
Good luck all!
Mike
Works a treat for me
I run with a Sandisk 4gb in a mini sd adapter and it works perfect for me with no errors. It also loads files pretty quick too.
SanDisk MicroSDHC 4 Gb here. No problems for months. Touch wood.
I don't take it out as I don't need that, though.
MiniSd HC
I have a SanDisk 4 Gb mini sd and is working very well
So many threads with no concrete answer.. some say it works, some say it doesn't. As soon as more than one person says it doesn't, I suspect that there is an issue. Is there a fix that works 100%? Does it depend on the ROM you have flashed?
I suspect the truth is NOT out there.... Or does this thread need updating?
Mattster.
Hi guys!
I've read several threads here regarding which cards work and don't work in our machines. One of the main threads is ridiculously long, and describes various reg hacks that do NOT solve the problem.
In my opinion, there is NOTHING worse than a PDA that needs to be rebooted every day or several times a day.
I am starting this thread just to bring the basic information into one place.
I can tell you right now:
I have two 2GB Sandisk MicroSD cards, and one 512MB card.
Not surprisingly, all three have problems in two 8525 devices, with two different WM5 ROM.
I know that the 1GB Made in Japan Kingston seems to work flawlessly.
Can anyone else please share their experiences in this thread? Let's keep it nice and clean, so that people wanting to understand what works and what doesn't.
How are the 2GB Kingston cards? Anyone have any luck?
I have used the SanDisk 2GB with no known issues.
I also have a 2g Sandisk with no issues over nearly 11 months.
I'm not sure you will prove much here as I have seen folks who swear Sandisks are bad and Kingstons (typically 2gig) are flawless. Equally I have seen exactly the reverse views reported. It may have more to do with physical connections (contacts) between device and the card.
But lets see how it pans out.
Mike
bkeenan said:
I have used the SanDisk 2GB with no known issues.
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I have as well and love it. Only issue I have is getting the little sucker out! I just leave it in. The only way I have found to get it out is by opening the back, and using an eye glasses screw driver to slide it out.
sandisk 2g and 1 g here and no issues with either work perfect. um you do know if you push it in it releases the catch and it pops out like its suppose to right?
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sandisk 2g and 1 g here and no issues with either work perfect. um you do know if you push it in it releases the catch and it pops out like its suppose to right?
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If only it was that easy. For some reason, mine doesn't do that. I push in, it doesn't pop out
Not AKU2.3?
Hands up those of you who have microSD card problems with AKU2.3 ROMs!
Using a SanDisk 1Gb here no problems. Also using WM5 Build 14955.2.3.0, which is AKU 2.3 is it not?
Mine is the HERM300 (MDA Vario 2).
help
hi I am usin 1gb kingston with hermes.and its speed is too slow like 30kpbs via wm5 storage.I think I need to format my card correctly.any help?
and can any body tell me any tweak to have programs install on folders of my own choice?
thx in advance.
it is a pleasure to write from hermes .....hehe
Kingston 2GB made in Taiwan
Often not responding after loading for a few times. Need to be inserted into the device again.
Toshiba 2GB made in Japan
No problem until now.
Wow, I've got something different!
1GB Corsair MicroSD in my Imate JasJam.
Worked flawlessly for 6 months until I became the new owner of both phone & card, it then had card detection issues for a couple of days, but came good on it's own.
Now on WM6 and still working fine. I'm wondering if larger than 2GB cards will work.
Cheers! Oggy.
I purchased a SanDisk 4gb microSDHC and it DID NOT work!!!
I am now back to using my 2gb A-data microSD (which works fine).
No problems with my A-Data MyFlash 1GB, although once or twice I did have to use a tweezers or a needle to extract it. Just FYI, I bought my card on NewEgg.com, and people there usually leave feedback on if the card worked or not on their particular mobile device.
Very interesting.
So it looks like some people have 2GB Sandisks with NO problems.
Mine pops in and out quite nicely, actually. Although on my dad's unit, you need a tweezers.
Typical......!
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If only it was that easy. For some reason, mine doesn't do that. I push in, it doesn't pop out
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I have a 8525, had that issue on day 1 and it was driving me crazy. then I thought let's put a needle down there and see what happens!! the thing lost its virginity, now pops in & out just fine
BTW I have Sandisk 2GB microSD card (Made in Taiwan) which works fine, I just have to eject and reinsert it in sleep mode.. else i'll have to SR so that the device would recognize it.
micro SD not reading
My unlocked M3100 has stopped seeing the storage card - nothing wrong with the card (tested elsewhere), and it used to work (on M3100). How might I rectify this?
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My unlocked M3100 has stopped seeing the storage card - nothing wrong with the card (tested elsewhere), and it used to work (on M3100). How might I rectify this?
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Check this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324
Mike
My SanDisk 2GB Taiwan card would disappear every other day or so. It wasn't a huge problem as I'd just have to pop it out and push it back in to get everything working again, but I needed another microSD card for another device so I bought a Kingston 2GB hoping to get a Japan card. I ended up with a 2GB Kingston Taiwan card, but it works just fine (a month now) without disappearing *knocks on wood*
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I know that the 1GB Made in Japan Kingston seems to work flawlessly.
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I have occasional problems with a 1GB Made in Japan Kingston, so I have to disagree with your statement.
I am convinced that this problem is hardware related. Either a connector fit problem as Michael Channon believes, and/or a motherboard problem as I believe. Earlier Hermes motherboards were manufactured by Hitachi, HTC now uses a different supplier for their motherboards. Rumour has it that the Hitachi mobo's have a problem with the mSD card hardware (could be the same problem I s'pose).
John
Sandisk 2GB card
I also have a Sandisk 2GB.
It had trouble ejecting the first few times and I had to use tweezers or the tip of a razorblade to get it to slide out but after a very short time it started moving normally.
My 8525 does lose site of the card from time to time and I sometimes have to re-insert it several times before it is recognized but I have not had to reset the phone to get it to come back.
I've read that not all 4gb Mini-SD cards work, does anyone know which do?
I would like the biggest card I can for my XDA and I think 4gb is the biggest I can get my hands on, yes?
Thanks,
Nick.
Here's the story on 4Gb SD cards.
There are 2 types of 4Gb SD cards, SD and SDHC. SDHC will not work in a wizard at all. From what I've read, there's a possibility that sometime in the future a firmware update could come out that will allow it to read them, but unless I've missed something recently, that hasn't happened yet and may never happen.
That doesn't mean a 4Gb SD card will actually work in your wizard. So far, there seems to be 3 different groups, people that can't get a 4 Gb card to read in their wizard no matter what they try, people that get them to work but they constantly get corrupted and have to continually reformat the card about once a month (sometimes more often than that) and then restore everything on it (I actually belong to this group), and people that have no problems with them.
If you can afford to buy one and risk not having it work at all, then by all means buy one and try it out. There's a thread in the wizard accessories section on working 4Gb cards that will help you decide which one to buy. That's still no gaurantee it will work in your wizard, but it will give you a better chance that it will anyway.
My advice that I usually give though if you can't afford the risk is to buy 2 2Gb cards, copy the main files that you want to have always there to both cards and then split the rest of the stuff you want to put on there, such as MP3's on one card and movies on the other card or whatever it is you're wanting to put on them.