I've read that not all 4gb Mini-SD cards work, does anyone know which do?
I would like the biggest card I can for my XDA and I think 4gb is the biggest I can get my hands on, yes?
Thanks,
Nick.
Here's the story on 4Gb SD cards.
There are 2 types of 4Gb SD cards, SD and SDHC. SDHC will not work in a wizard at all. From what I've read, there's a possibility that sometime in the future a firmware update could come out that will allow it to read them, but unless I've missed something recently, that hasn't happened yet and may never happen.
That doesn't mean a 4Gb SD card will actually work in your wizard. So far, there seems to be 3 different groups, people that can't get a 4 Gb card to read in their wizard no matter what they try, people that get them to work but they constantly get corrupted and have to continually reformat the card about once a month (sometimes more often than that) and then restore everything on it (I actually belong to this group), and people that have no problems with them.
If you can afford to buy one and risk not having it work at all, then by all means buy one and try it out. There's a thread in the wizard accessories section on working 4Gb cards that will help you decide which one to buy. That's still no gaurantee it will work in your wizard, but it will give you a better chance that it will anyway.
My advice that I usually give though if you can't afford the risk is to buy 2 2Gb cards, copy the main files that you want to have always there to both cards and then split the rest of the stuff you want to put on there, such as MP3's on one card and movies on the other card or whatever it is you're wanting to put on them.
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After exchanging from MMC card to SD card the PPC wants to reformat the SD card (the one with all your programs and back up etc on it [1GB]). The other SD card of 256mb is not recognized at all anymore (so much for all my music). Could there be a connection from the fact that I have had a MMC card inserted before? I already have put back the MMC card to see if some program had not been closed properly. ALthough I fortunately have a recent backup of my 1GB SD card ( but not my 256 mb card) I would prefer to find a more sophisticated solution than to reformat my SD card. Who has a solution for me? Thanks.
Is there a bug between MMC and SD?
SD Card getting corrupted by MDA II !!
Hello,
I have MDA ii since last two months and my device has corrrupted my extreme - 512 SD Card Twice and after corruption it's not even recognized by PPC , USB card reader and my camera.
I have installed omeg a_Red OS. on my MDA ii
Following are the details of my device
ROM Version : 2.0.6.00 WWE
ROM Date : 06/14/2004
Radio Version : 1.18.00
Protcol Version : 1337.38
ExtROM Version : Diamond 1.2 se
Please help
try to open it with card reader. and back up first.
Any luck?
For some unknown reason my XDA IIi no longer reads the SD card!
In about it says "Expansion Slot : In Use", but explorer can't see it!
Any help please?
Loads of pictures and movies on there too.
ross1234 said:
Any luck?
For some unknown reason my XDA IIi no longer reads the SD card!
In about it says "Expansion Slot : In Use", but explorer can't see it!
Any help please?
Loads of pictures and movies on there too.
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have you been able to read your SD card at all. I am having the same problem with my XDAIIi. Cannot read the card on any device or PC.
Yep it worked fine straight away, hence I had "Loads of pictures and movies on there too. "
Does any one know what it going on?
maybe the card is dead
seen it happening to a CF card once all of a surden it just died
and would not work in the digicam sdreader ..,....
Nooooo, is that it then?!?! data none recoverable?
Does this happen often? Should I be able to get my money back? What's the point of having 1 gb of storage if at any moment it disapears with all your info on?!
when it happent with the CF card for the camera it was 100% dead and all data was lost
of cause i cant say for sure if it could be saved or not
but no money was thrown after the project
i mean when soo much time have passed who care who was firing the shots from the grassy nole
and to answer you other question then no it should be pretty rare
that a flash card die seen tests where they put a cam on a bridge and blew it up and found the flash card and it still worked
and also this
http://news.com.com/Lost+at+sea,+found+in+flash+-+page+2/2100-1041_3-5780047-2.html?tag=st.num
but i would try some different SD readers before writting it off as dead
i had exp with some sd readers which sucked
and others my own sandisk 8-1 flash reader had no issues reading the card
That's the route I'm trying, installing card reader on pc.
Cheers.
Expect a post in the near future "SD Card reader not working on XDA IIi"
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I am also currently in the same soup. Whe I let the xda2 format the sd, it works alright in xda storing files etc, but not recognised by laptop and it also asks to format it.
Victor
I am giving up on my card. As it was only 2 days old I am returning it and hoping for a replacement. My friend has sent his XDA II back to O2 as it has destroyed 3 SD cards within the space of two weeks. All different makes. My card was a new 512MB high speed card. I had been using an older Sandisk 256MB card with no problems for several months and decided to upgrade. I will try another card that I have - Sandisk 512MB (slow card) and see if that is OK.
O2 have said that this is not a known problem!!! What do they know???
O2 also gave me the same reply!
Idiots.
Their solution was "Take it to a store, and an engineer will look at it"
Yeah right, you mean a dummy who is trained to follow a 10 stage analysis process and tell you at the end "Sorry, I don't know what the problem is, shall we send it back to HTC for analysis?"
My guess is that the handset is not negotiating the operating voltage correctly, and is frying certain cards.
My 512MB + 1GB Toshiba cards fried within 2 weeks of new.
My 256MB Kingston is still going strong after 9 months (touch wood!)
Now almost 90 quid down the drain, and I'm going to try O2 as a last resort!
(Might print this forum too
This has been happening quite a lot recently. I made a post regarding the same happening to my 512mb Kingston card here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25566
Somewhere in that thread are links to THREE other recent threads regarding fried SD cards. I think there is a hardware fault in the device...
Anyway, I seem to remember the seller boasting about some warranty on their site, so I'm going to try to return it...
I just spoke with the supplier... he was very accomodating. This is what he said:
Whilst the Kingtston card is of superior quality to the Viking they are both using Toshiba components and we have had customers experience a similar issue when using either card with the XDAii where it would seem that the device 'kills' the card... I would recommend a Lexar branded xD card for use in the XDAii rather than any Toshiba based card. If you are interested, you could purchase the Lexar card from us and I can issue you with a full refund for your current SD card (including postage) as I feel the Lexar card would be more suitable for your use.
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Sounds more and more like a device problem! Oh oh!
mmm_ok said:
I just spoke with the supplier... he was very accomodating. This is what he said:
Whilst the Kingtston card is of superior quality to the Viking they are both using Toshiba components and we have had customers experience a similar issue when using either card with the XDAii where it would seem that the device 'kills' the card... I would recommend a Lexar branded xD card for use in the XDAii rather than any Toshiba based card. If you are interested, you could purchase the Lexar card from us and I can issue you with a full refund for your current SD card (including postage) as I feel the Lexar card would be more suitable for your use.
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Sounds more and more like a device problem! Oh oh!
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I just had 2 SD cards blow up, a Viking 1GB card and a PNY 512 Mb card. Who is your supplier?
I just bought an transcend 2gb 80x card and it works untill i leave the phone for a bit or it has done some kind of acces to the card and all of a
sudden the card is not seen by the phone.
Now i am going to write a mail to see what can be the problem since it
works fine in my card-reader in my pc. On the other hand it works fine in
the phone too untill it suddenly dissapeared. One time i seen this 2 files that
where on the card after it "died" .. one little file and some sort of bin file .
which looked to me like it was some sort of cd image..
Anyone had similar problems ?
Allthough i read somewhere that so called SDHC are not supported i found
some registry values in the device area that at least tells the operating system supports it, so does the build-in card reader. which suggests that 4gb cards should work, but i'm no guru at this matter so i cant tell for sure.
here is a site which has a lot of minisd cards http://www.flash-memory-store.com/mini-secure-digital.html
If you bought a 4gb miniSD card you got ripped off.
There is no such thing available to the public yet.
Any miniSD card claiming to be 4gb are just miniSD cards that are actually smaller capacity with hacked firmware to make them appear as 4gb to operating systems.
If you don't believe me have a look at Transcend's official website:
http://www.transcendusa.com/Products/ModDetail.asp?ModNo=17&LangNo=0
No 4gb cards listed. Only 2gb.
SanDisk is working on a new miniSD standard called miniSDHC that will be able to hold 4gb of data, but current miniSD devices will not be able to use this miniSDHC cards.
Read up on SanDisk's website here:
http://www.sandisk.com/Corporate/PressRoom/PressReleases/PressRelease.aspx?ID=3530
I beg to differ. I just loaded my MiniSD card that I bought on eBay PAST 2gb (with porn RSS feeds nonetheless) and it's working just fine. There have also been other successful cards purchased from well known retails.
2GB MiniSD formatted = 1907MB (or around that) showing on the memory readout for memory card... I have used 1964mb and am still writing, now 1965, and 66. As long as it works and I don't lose data, fine. I could care less. Most of us have hacked our Wizards, which could have severe repercussions in the future, but does it really seem like any of us care?
If they were hacked to appear as 4gb and only 2gb, that would MEAN that at 1907mb, my device would have crashed because it couldn't write anymore even though it thinks it can. However, that is not the case with these cards, and to hack the card to put some sort of "compression" built in, is impractical, not feasible, and impossible without some software or extra hardware chip in the middle of the entire process, thus raising the cost of them. There is none of that at work here, this is straight up flash memory, 4gb of it. The fact that I'm speaking from experience, watching my Wizard RIGHT NOW writing more than 2gb of data to the card with no problem, able to play the video back without issue, says, in all practicality, that the damn thing is 4gb and works. Now if you want to dispute this I am attaching screenshots from inside the device proving this point.
Oh and if you're looking for a working 4gb card like I have: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1100646
You don't seem to understand how solid state memory works.
Come back in a month or 2 and let me know how well that card is working for you
I gaurantee you that card will die in a short amount of time.
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You don't seem to understand how solid state memory works.
Come back in a month or 2 and let me know how well that card is working for you
I gaurantee you that card will die in a short amount of time.
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So what you're sitting there telling me, is that manufacturers knowingly produce 4gb+ capacity flash chips, and then mark them 2gb with a "firmware" flash? How insane is that? Flash chips are based on the same level of technology that RAM is. Switching circuits, 1 OR 0, and there is a predefined and set amount of switching circuits on any chip as manufactured by the companies. Now, what you're sitting here trying to tell me, is by a simple "firmware" flash, these chips are holding DOUBLE their original PHYSICAL capacity on a technology that is a static, unexpandable, and certainly not double-bit compatible. How much else are you going to say to defend this? Just your "wait 2 months and tell me how that card is working"? It's not going to cut it, you cannot make a 2gb card appear as a 4gb and then enable it to fill the card to 4gb. There is only 1 type of "flash" memory that is double-bit, it's expensive as ****, and would certainly not afford such low pricetags as we're finding. Your arguement is flawed. Show me some documentation on a solid state flash card, NAND to be specific, that has the ability to "expand" it's capacity BEYOND it's physical limitations. Look up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory
Just defending my point.
I'm not going to argue a point I already proved in my 1st post.
Read the 2 links.
as far as i know there is no miniSD 4gb card. THERE IS HOWEVER A 4Gb SDHC mini. From other posts that i have read on cingular, all you need to do is forat the card on an external reader on your computer and then the card will read and write like a mini SD card
http://www.transcendusa.com/Products/ModDetail.asp?ModNo=129&LangNo=0
Just wondering why there is still so much rumor about that topic - dozens of people already reported 4GB miniSD cards to work on their PDAs and hundreds of them have been sold at ebay. Nobody ever complained about a 4GB card (NOT marked as SDHC) not to work on their PDA - so what's the point in questioning that?? I personally don't care whether these ones are HC or not, as long as they work and hold 4GB of data, which was proofed by so many people...
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Just wondering why there is still so much rumor about that topic - dozens of people already reported 4GB miniSD cards to work on their PDAs and hundreds of them have been sold at ebay. Nobody ever complained about a 4GB card (NOT marked as SDHC) not to work on their PDA - so what's the point in questioning that?? I personally don't care whether these ones are HC or not, as long as they work and hold 4GB of data, which was proofed by so many people...
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THANK YOU! Yeesh, how hard is it to ACCEPT that there are 4gb miniSD cards, even if they're NOT made and marked by some big overpriced company? You'd buy a stick of 4gb DDR or DDR2 RAM for your computer if it was available, even if it was with a brand you'd never heard of, or no brand marking at all. Why the hell should miniSD be any different?
GldRush, your two links, point to a specific manufacturer's "standards" for how to make a 4gb miniSD work (when other companies have already adapted normal miniSD to 4gb), and an online retailer (who's not obligated to carry a 4gb miniSD or may not have any in stock). My link however points towards known information proving my point in the fact you can't have more memory than there is physically storable, no matter how you "hack" a card. (Change alloc tables, it just changes sector sizes, compression is illogical and impractical, hacking the card to appear as 4gb when it's a 2gb yields the results we saw from another person's venture showing half-full card all the time.) You say your point is proven with those 2 links, it's not.
can you point us to this topic jimmyjam ?
as i looked on transcend site i came up to this:
compatibilitylist for wizard memcards
now my question is wouldn't it be a strange idea to think this 4gb minisd normal ones are actually refurnished mmc cards ?
here is the datasheet of the card i bought :
pdf datasheet 2gb 80x transcend minisd
so it should be working fine in my wizard but it does strange things... same happend in this other wizard before and after a new rom upgrade.. and in this nokia n73... but the cardreader which is a usb2.0 56-sorts-of-memcard-reading device has no problem with it. I'm totally lost on it. could it be the power the card needs or its thin size ?
I just got an 8Gb Samsung OEM 8Gb 150x SD card for my 02 Exec, but the XDA doesn't recognise the card, it just says there's no card installed. My PC can read and write to it find.
Can anyone shed light on this? Is there a max of 4Gb, is it the brand of card or do I need to do something on the XDA? I don't remember doing anything for my 4Gb cards, so I don't think it's the latter
I do hope it's not a 4Gb limit, as that means that not only will the 8Gb card work, but also it means the 16Gb and 32Gb cards Samsung say they will have on the market by the end of the year won't work which will be a major pain
Cheers
Is it an SD, or SDHC? If it's the latter, it will not work.
If it's only SD, there have been many problems with cards above 4gb in many devices, not just PPC devices.
The success rate is not that high.
Ah, I see. It's SDHC. What's the difference? Is it worth returning and changing for a normal SD?
SDHC is high capacity, it requires fundamental different changes that can't be done via software updates to your device, so it will never work with it.
So yeah, I would exchange it. Personally, having seen the amount of problems people have had with 8gb cards, I would go for a 4gb standard SD.
Oh well. The idea was to get as much music on it to save me having to buy an MP3 player but I guess that's not going to work.
Johnny C said:
Oh well. The idea was to get as much music on it to save me having to buy an MP3 player but I guess that's not going to work.
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4GB of music is approximately 4000 minutes (give or take) which gives you 67 hours of music!
I guess when you're done listening, you can copy another 4GB should take you some time to listen to all of this!
Why buy a device for a function you already have.
If anyone is still there I havve a problem. When I tried to update it. i think it failed and got stuck on the serial v1.00 botloader. Luckily I found a way to fix that. May one of you please supply the 1.30.79 WWE QTEK-TMobile rom please I cannot find it. Also I ahve a 4gb that's not working with my device. Could it be possible that my rom is to old and the update for 4gb cards haven't been set in place fo r that rom? This the only time I've heard of a 4g card not working. Please help. I think its a 2005 rom
I Have read plenty of threads on xda, and searched the htcwiki and have found no conclusive evidence. I have heard that it's only software differences between sd and sdhc and i've heard it's hardware. All I want to see are reports of working sdhc cards on the Wizard and only the wizard, if their are any. If anyone has one to post if they could PLEASE post:
1. Size of card
2. Brand of card
3. Rom
4. S/N (HT618xxxxxxx only 2 letters and 3 numbers)
5. Any registry edits/CAB Files/Hacks/Dlls
I understand some people have strong feelings about this, I only want confirmed working SDHC posts anything else is as useless as the other indecisive threads. If there are no working instances, there should be no posts. Thank you very much, I'm sorry if I come off frustrated but arguing back and forth is useless, only working evidence will prove it to me, if there is none then i am convinced it's a hardware problem.
p.s. If any are found working, where u purchased the card would be great too thanks
p.s.s. I have researched this a little bit, if you have any definitive information on SDHC cards (not 4gb standard SD) for use with the wizard I'd appreciate it
Well, if you will look 2 sub-forums down under the Wizard forum, you will find the topic that you are looking for....2 seconds of searching would have solved your problem.
Here is the link-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297324
You see, I did see that post, 2 seconds of reading it would inform you that i have a different question. That post says SDHC does not work, while many will say it does, i'm asking for examples of WORKING SDHC cards, besides that SD cards only go to 2gb. 4 gb SD cards are fake/hacked or non compliant, that's according to www.sdcard.org, the official on these matters. SanDisk doesn't even make them, nor does any other reputable brand. I've done some homework on this one, thanks for trying to help anyways.
Here's my take on it:
The Wizard does not support SDHC.
There are some 4GB cards that are not SDHC but some in-between standard that came out before SDHC was settled on.
Some Wizards support 4GB cards that use this in-between standard.
So the trick will be finding some of those cards and hoping you have one of the Wizards that can support it. I seriously doubt anyone is making 4GB cards that use that in-between standard anymore since SDHC has become a standard.
Personally I think the mini-sd slot on the Wizard is generally flaky. I have to re-insert my card numerous times to get it to read, and there are some 2GB cards that don't read at all, whereas the 1GB cards seem to always work. 2GB is not enough if you're running TomTom (whose maps take up over 1GB).
Sounds like a pretty good take to me. I have a 2 gb card and it seems to work pretty well actually, i wanted something larger so i could use it as my mp3 player as well. I guess i'll try to find a working 4 gig and hope my wizard supports it... Thanks for your input.
Sounds good, if you find one that works, please let me know, I'm very interested! Mine starts with HTC626 which I haven't seen on the other threads (I've seen HTC616 but not HTC626). Good luck!
Hi, first of all, sorry if Ive posted this in the wrong forum.
Right, basically, I purchased a new HD2 last month (I love it!) and it came with a stock 2GB micro sd card, which is not big enough for the music and movies I want to put on my phone. I purchased a Sandisk 32GB Micro SDHC off ebay, it was genuine, came in genuine packaging etc.
Now, I was transfering music onto the memory card via the phone using a program called iTunes Sync, which transfers music contained in my iTunes to an MP3 Player/memory card. Half way through the transfer, it stopped and the phone/memory card automatically disconnected from my computer. The memory card was then unrecognised by the phone, so I performed a soft reset and the phone went past the HTC screen and then went black, and wouldn't boot. However, when I removed the card, the phone would boot up fine.
I put the memory card into a card reader I have and plugged it into my computer.Windows recognised the memory card, but it only had a capacity of 8MB and Windows could not format it or access it. I also put the card into an SD Adapter, making sure it was in the unlock position, as I'd read this could have solved the problem.
Unfortunately for me, it didn't. However, I contacted the seller and they sent me a replacement (exactly the same card). Today, I've put the replacement card in, started using iTunes Sync and the exact same thing has occured.
Now, what I want to know is if these are genuinely defunct memory cards, if theres a problem with my phone, if I should stop using iTunes Sync (although I can't understand how a program can make a memory card non-functional), if I should get a smaller sized memory card, if its a problem with my computer, or if I'm just attracting a lot of bad luck!
I just want to know what is happening or what I can do to make sure it doesn't happen again. As you may understand, I'm getting very frustrated.
Any help is appreciated
*sigh*...dude search search search!
it has been discussed in many many threads. ebay sellers are notorious for selling "fake" sd cards. it turns out, so far very few manufacturers have very few models that are genuinely 32GB. the "fake" ones are specially formatted to present themselves as 32GB, until you start filling them up. then, surprise!
there are some software tools that can confirm that it is a fake, i forget the name.
summary: you have been sold a fake card. search some more to read other similar threads...you'll find many which contain EXACTLY the same symptoms as yours and conclusions as mine.
what he said.
It could very likely be fake if you got it off ebay. How much did you pay? What class is it and what is the part number on it? I have 2 32gb Sandisk cards... 1 is class 2, 1 is class 4... both work great. Sandisk is the best brand cards out there, but there's a lot of counterfeits.