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Google maps Cache file

hi,
can we manage to do something to keep the images downloaded on google maps in a cache file on the pda?
this way we can access them the offline like we do with google earth
thx

take a look @ http://terracrosser.com/

i've seen terracrosser
the thing in terracrosser is that u have to load maps it needs lots of work
if we can save ggogle maps cach to use it offline it would be much easier and user friendly...
what do u think?

jokove said:
the thing in terracrosser is that u have to load maps it needs lots of work
if we can save ggogle maps cach to use it offline it would be much easier and user friendly...
what do u think?
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having google maps cache for when you don't have reception or gps would be a nice feature you might wanna put in a request to google the developers there might be able to implement it

or you can use gpsVP (freeware). it uses google maps and saves the maps on your phone. has a desktop version too, so you can download the maps to your phone from your desktop, and you wont have to use airtime to download them when you are on your way.
the program has some nice features like tracking, waypoints, traffic density etc..
on my phone I need to have GPSProxy runnşng for gpsVP to work. GPSProxy is a neat little freeware program too...

kunteper said:
or you can use gpsVP (freeware). it uses google maps and saves the maps on your phone. has a desktop version too, so you can download the maps to your phone from your desktop, and you wont have to use airtime to download them when you are on your way.
the program has some nice features like tracking, waypoints, traffic density etc..
on my phone I need to have GPSProxy runnşng for gpsVP to work. GPSProxy is a neat little freeware program too...
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nice hmm wonder if this will work even though i don't have an gps i'll have to test this out.
looks like a nice program doesn't look like it will work well with out a gps
i have an HTC WIZARD

How do you get the Google maps onto the GPSVP software?
Hope you guys can help

Terracrosser is Perfect !
It works very well on my Diamond
Thank you for this topic and information

VEM
There's also virtualearthmobile, but development has stopped i believe

Tracky is another that uses and caches google maps. It is not free, and the shareware is basically useless. It only runs for 15 minutes at a time, and resets the cache upon closing.
I found it a while ago on Aximsite.

Can the google cache file be moved to the storage card to conserve space?

it's no use of finding a way to move it to storagecard since basically u cannot use it without internet connection...

I don't understand what you mean by that.

jokove said:
it's no use of finding a way to move it to storagecard since basically u cannot use it without internet connection...
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hm, 30 MB free memory on my device and 3 GB free mem on storage card - I´d love to move the cache to the storage card
but apparently there is no way

I guess that having things stored locally is against the very concept of what Google aims to achieve... I don't think they'll ever release a version where the maps can be stored locally... it must all be drawn 'live' from the web... eventually perhaps data connections will be free though

I think that must be possible to use google maps offline, you can find a lot of manuals on the net to do this with the iphone.
Use other programs with dowloaded maps from google?? Yes...but what about the gsm location? This is really importat to me becouse I don't have gps in my htc touch.
Using google maps offline? anybody knows how to do it??
If the iphone can...
Cheers

I think the point of storing the cache on the storage card is not so much being able to use GoogleMaps offline, but more so to conserve the device storage space and use the larger storage card space. Similar to how Windows Mobile Live Search can store the cache on the storage card. I would be interested in this as well.

hambola said:
I think the point of storing the cache on the storage card is not so much being able to use GoogleMaps offline, but more so to conserve the device storage space and use the larger storage card space. Similar to how Windows Mobile Live Search can store the cache on the storage card. I would be interested in this as well.
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Exactly, my wing is running low.

kunteper said:
or you can use gpsVP (freeware). it uses google maps and saves the maps on your phone. has a desktop version too, so you can download the maps to your phone from your desktop, and you wont have to use airtime to download them when you are on your way.
the program has some nice features like tracking, waypoints, traffic density etc..
on my phone I need to have GPSProxy runnşng for gpsVP to work. GPSProxy is a neat little freeware program too...
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Sorry for posting in this thread after it has been started for such a long time, but how do you go about using gpsvp?
I manage to download both google maps and gpsvp on my handphone (X1), but I have no idea what's the next step.
Would anyone kindly teach me? Thank you.

[UPDATE: Guide in 1st post, possible problem though]CoPilot Install/Activation guide.

Hi guys,
The version of CoPilot Live 8 that comes installed on the HD2 is something I wish to use. I have a license key (had purchase this a while ago). I have managed to activate my license on the HD2 but cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the latest maps onto the device.
I have RTFM and searched and I still don't get it, am I being really stupid? Any help on getting the latest maps onto my device (SD card I presume) would be much appreciated.
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There may be an issue with my method, I will report back as soon as I have investigated. I suggest not using this guide until I have found what the issue is and if there is a fix/solution.
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Right guys, the method below does work but you need a fair amount of patience. The guide below has been updated.
Do everything shown in the guide below and your maps will download. It will take a fair amount of time depending on the follow:
1. The size of the maps you are downloading.
2. The speed of your broadband connection.
READ THE WHOLE GUIDE BEFORE DOING ANYTHING!!!!
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You have a new HD2 with CoPilot Live 8 preinstalled (I think this is the case for ALL new HD2s as CoPilot Live 8 is cooked into the default/official ROM.
You already have a CoPilot Live 8 license (that you perhaps used on a previous device etc) that covers you for regions other than the one that comes preinstalled on the SD card that comes in the box.
You want to use your existing license and map regions on your shiney new HD2.
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1. Deactivate the license on your old device by doing in the following:a. Launch CoPilot
b. Menu -> Settings->Licencing. Press deactivate (you need to have an internet connection active for this to work, I used WiFi).
c. You should see a message the confirms the deactivation has been successful.​2. Before you do anything on your HD2 with CoPilot I suggest copying the "copilot" folder on the bundled 2GB SD card onto your desired card (I used an 8GB Sandisk that I used to use with my Touch Pro). You can skip this step if you just want to use the bundled card and there is enough space for any additional maps you want/need to download.
3. Make sure your HD2 has an internet connection, once again I suggest using WiFi for speed and stability reasons.
4. Make sure your HD2 is connected to a power supply to keep it "awake". Not sure if this is really necessary.
5. Fire up CoPilot and follow the on-screen instructions.
6. Enter your license key when prompted, followed by the email address and password you used on the old device.
7. Your HD2 installation of CoPilot should now be activated (as indicated by an on-screen confirmation).
8. Press Menu->Download Maps: Now select the map/region you desire (this will be dictated/limited by the license code you enter I believe). Once you do this the download will commence but you will (I did) get thrown back to the map screen showing your location. Once again press Menu->Download Maps. You should now see a progress indicator and the title at the top of the page should show "Download In Progress".
9. After you complete step 8 below you will see a progress indicator in CoPilot in the "Download Maps" section as stated above. This will obviously creep up as your map is downloaded. When this progress bar reaches the end it may appear to become "stuck", it will not move for sometime. At this point do not lose heart and be patient, VERY patient!
During this time I think the device is making a copy of the file it just downloaded, I dont know why and I dont know how, because looking in file explorer the two files are named EXACTLY the same and within the same folder?! How is this even possible?
The only thought I have on this is that perhaps it's doing some weird check/checksum on the downloaded file. While this is happening the screen will not change, the progress bar will remain at 100% and the title will still be "Download In Progress".
The downloading process will eventually switch to an "Unpacking" process which is reflected in the title of the screen which will now show "Unpacking Data", however the progress bar will still say downloading and reset back to zero and then start to creep back up (though thank fully fairly quickly compared to the previous one!). Again when this progress indicator reaches 100% the device will sit there for a little while.
10. When the device/CoPilot decide they're done you'll be thrown to the map screen and shown a dialog box. Choose "Ok" and you will be shown a list of your available Data Regions. Select your desired data region. Now, weirdly, for me the device showed Europe and Europe!! I assume the currently selected Europe was the "UK & Ireland" map set which was preloaded so I selected the 2nd "Europe" option in the list.
11. Now press OK and you will be asked to restart CoPilot, press "Yes" and CoPilot will exit.
12. Restart CoPilot and the new map set and data region should be set!! You're good to go!!!
PHEW!!!
The issue I was experiencing was (I think) due to the fact that I launched and activated CoPilot without having an SD card inserted, I then tried to insert and download maps but I think the installation had configured itself to look to onboard space rather than the SD card.
I hope this guide is useful for others.

RTFM??? i know theres a download maps section in the settings of copilot..??

Well when you activate it gives you the option to download maps, but it seems to want to download them to the device rather than storage card. There's not enough space on the device and obviously storage card would be a better option, but how?

I approached CoPilot customer service a while ago asking to get hold of maps - Iwas having the same problem. They replied with this link which worked for me,
http://www.alk.com/htc/
Good luck.

ambler11 said:
I approached CoPilot customer service a while ago asking to get hold of maps - Iwas having the same problem. They replied with this link which worked for me,
http://www.alk.com/htc/
Good luck.
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But that link requires you to buy maps. I already have a license which I paid for. I have full pan-european map coverage under that license.

I bought paneuropean maps and in my conirmation mail I have been sent a link, where I could downoiad the maps. It's a file of about 1,5 Gig in size. You can copy everything to your storage. Simply copy the Copilot folder from the SD the HD2 came with to the big SD card you most certainly bought.

cyclingfan74 said:
I bought paneuropean maps and in my conirmation mail I have been sent a link, where I could downoiad the maps. It's a file of about 1,5 Gig in size. You can copy everything to your storage. Simply copy the Copilot folder from the SD the HD2 came with to the big SD card you most certainly bought.
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I think you misunderstand, I bought my license well before I bought my HD2, I used to use CoPilot Live 8 on my Touch Pro.
I now have a HD2, I deactivated the license on the Touch Pro and used the same license to activate the installation on the HD2.
I have a blank 8GB SD card to which I want to download the latest pan-euro maps to use with the installation of CoPilot Live 8 which is preinstalled on the HD2.
How do I do this?

Try downloading CoPilot Central 2.0, login with your account used on your Touch Pro. Press on the Store tab and go under maps, then download the appropriate map.
http://www.alk.com/copilot/central/
Plug in your HD2 and transfer the maps. I hope that works

jorghd2 said:
Try downloading CoPilot Central 2.0, login with your account used on your Touch Pro. Press on the Store tab and go under maps, then download the appropriate map.
http://www.alk.com/copilot/central/
Plug in your HD2 and transfer the maps. I hope that works
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Tried this already, it expects me to pay for the maps even though I already have a license!

Syphon Filter said:
Tried this already, it expects me to pay for the maps even though I already have a license!
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Here's what ALK emailed me, though I'm not sure what happens if you follow these instructions when CoPilot is already installed.
EDIT: I'm assuming you've downloaded "8.0.0.346_Pan_Europe_Card_Image.zip" (the phone app) and not "CoPilot_Central_setup32.zip" (the desktop app)? The confirmation email I received following purchase had this link:
[FONT=&quot]http://www.alk.eu.com/buynow/eu_download.asp[/FONT]
You'll need your order number, last name, and postal code to get the download...
How to put it on your memory card:
Step 1: Download CoPilot Live v8 software and maps to your desktop computer
Click on the download link above and save the file to a location on your desktop computer
Once the maps are downloaded, right-click on the downloaded zip file and select 'Extract All'
You should now have 2 new folders on your PC: '2577' and 'CoPilot'
Step 2: Transfer CoPilot Live v8 software and maps to your memory card
Note: if your phone has a large internal storage (for example HTC Touch Diamond) then you may not need a memory card, and can transfer the maps directly
The easiest way to do this is using a memory card reader
Insert your memory card into your desktop computer's card reader
Browse to the memory card using your desktop computer's file explorer
Copy the 2577 and CoPilot folders onto the main directory of your memory card
Once the transfer is completed, please insert the memory card into your mobile device
Alternative method: transfer the files to a memory card in your mobile device using a sync cable
Insert your memory card into the card slot in your mobile device
Connect your mobile device to your desktop computer using a synchronization cable
Browse to the memory card in your mobile device using your desktop computer's file explorer
Copy the 2577 and CoPilot folders from your desktop computer onto your memory card
Step 3 - Install CoPilot Live on your mobile device
If your mobile device is connected to your desktop PC, disconnect it now
Insert the memory card into your mobile device (if not already inserted)
CoPilot Live installation should begin automatically after a few seconds. If not, use your mobile device's file explorer to browse to the 2577 folder on the memory card and tap 'Autorun'
Select an installation location when prompted on-screen. We recommend that you install CoPilot to your device
Follow the on-screen instructions to complete installation

Are you using the 2Gb SD card that came with your phone? If not, copy the copilot folder from it the SD card in your phone. All your compatible maps need to be placed in this folder (the ones that came with your phone will already be there).

iphoneresister said:
Here's what ALK emailed me, though I'm not sure what happens if you follow these instructions when CoPilot is already installed.
EDIT: I'm assuming you've downloaded "8.0.0.346_Pan_Europe_Card_Image.zip" (the phone app) and not "CoPilot_Central_setup32.zip" (the desktop app)? The confirmation email I received following purchase had this link:
[FONT=&quot]http://www.alk.eu.com/buynow/eu_download.asp[/FONT]
You'll need your order number, last name, and postal code to get the download...
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I still have all this information in the original email that ALK sent me and I am sure this method would also work. But the pre-installed version of CoPilot is newer. The one in the email link is:
8.0.0.346
The pre-installed is:
8.0.0.457
Hence I wanted to use the pre-installed version with my existing license. Also by doing a fresh download you ensure that you have the latest maps/data packages (I hope).
jakem said:
Are you using the 2Gb SD card that came with your phone? If not, copy the copilot folder from it the SD card in your phone. All your compatible maps need to be placed in this folder (the ones that came with your phone will already be there).
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I think this is where I was going wrong.
I have found a solution and I have updated the thread title and my first post with complete "how-to".

Syphon Filter said:
I have found a solution and I have updated the thread title and my first post with complete "how-to".
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+100 to you mate. I'm sure that lots of people will stumble across this post with similar issues (if they bother searching ).
Nice one.

johncmolyneux said:
+100 to you mate. I'm sure that lots of people will stumble across this post with similar issues (if they bother searching ).
Nice one.
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Cheers. The community gives so much to us, it's only fair we contribute in return when we can!! That's what it's all about.
I would suggest making this a sticky or something but not sure how many people actually like/use CoPilot. Either way, as long as people use search they will find this thread I may also post a link in the hints & tips sticky, maybe the OP of that thread can work it into his list.

Syphon Filter said:
Cheers. The community gives so much to us, it's only fair we contribute in return when we can!! That's what it's all about.
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Are you purposely looking for me to say +100 again, cos that's what you're getting! lol
That is what the forums are about.

Ah crap,
We spoke too soon. My device downloaded the maps but CoPilot would not shut down properly (it hung on shutdown). I pressed the "Home" key and had a look in task manager and it was sat there, I waited a bit but it remained so I killed the task.
I relaunched CoPilot and it threw an error, something along the lines of "some files could not be unpacked, these files will be deleted". Press ok and it continued to work but without the new maps. I am wondering if the process that appeared to be stuck in memory was infact unpacking the downloaded files?
I am trying the download the again and am going to leave my device running overnight, hopefully that should be enough time for it to download and unpack the files.

Syphon Filter said:
Ah crap,
We spoke too soon. My device downloaded the maps but CoPilot would not shut down properly (it hung on shutdown). I pressed the "Home" key and had a look in task manager and it was sat there, I waited a bit but it remained so I killed the task.
I relaunched CoPilot and it threw an error, something along the lines of "some files could not be unpacked, these files will be deleted". Press ok and it continued to work but without the new maps. I am wondering if the process that appeared to be stuck in memory was infact unpacking the downloaded files?
I am trying the download the again and am going to leave my device running overnight, hopefully that should be enough time for it to download and unpack the files.
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Someone who knows may well be able to advise you on here at some point, but in the meantime, have you tried contacting the CoPilots bods? Relevant maps were stored on my SD card when I got the phone, so I didn't have to worry about it. This is obviously something they've arranged with HTC so I'd imagine they should be able to help.

johncmolyneux said:
Someone who knows may well be able to advise you on here at some point, but in the meantime, have you tried contacting the CoPilots bods? Relevant maps were stored on my SD card when I got the phone, so I didn't have to worry about it. This is obviously something they've arranged with HTC so I'd imagine they should be able to help.
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Yeah I might hit them up in the morning but they are only open for the morning on Christmas Eve. I will try anyway.

CoPilot 8 and Data Regions (USA)
I have a Touch Pro 2 and downloaded to my PC the software; 1.2 gigs. I'm asking myself with an image file that big why after downloading it to my sd card do I need to download data regions; so upon request I download Alabama; the state I live in. We're travelling to LA later today; does that mean I have to download Mississippi and Louisiana to plot an address for the software? I'm asking myself why with such a large file and I expect it to be a large file; why do I have to download these data regions in the first place; does data imply maps or does it imply "data" features which require a data plan? The software works great, I'm just trying to understand how to plot a 600 mile trip and not pull my hair out too.
The second is CoPilot Central - I'm going this is sync software, but like others who have posted; it wants to put the software on my device and I don't have the memory where an 8 gig sd card should do the trick. I have wi-fi and I'm using the device to do the work. I just think that this part of it wasn't well thought out by ALK.
What else caught my attention was the updated release 12-29-2009. I bought and downloaded the software on the 30th.
So what am I missing here? Must I download all the data regions manually? And if so, what exactly other than audio files is within that 1.2 gig download?
Thanks

What exactly have you downloaded?

Using Google Maps without Data Connection!

Is there absoluetly no way to use google Maps without some sort of data connectivity? Is there another way around this?
I've opt to not have a data plan on my cellphone service.
I only have GPS and Wifi. But on the highway, there is no Wifi, is there?

There really is no way around it...
Though there are some tools that allow you to cache the map imagery and display them while offline, but they require you to use other apps for windows mobile and not the Google Maps app.
Before you go on your trip you have to download all imagery of where you are planning to go. Decide which zoom levels you want, and voila. The problem is that if you want all zoom levels,
or even if you just want the few most detailed zoom levels, the cached data will be incredibly big... barely or simply not fitting on your SD card.

Unfortunately no, you'll have to get one of the many GPS apps out there.
If you're just looking for something short term, just try the CoPilot trial, 15 days!

Google only loves you if you're constantly talking to it.

Copilot Navigator 8 - $34.99 Data Plan NOT Required to Operate
lemonspeakers said:
Is there absoluetly no way to use google Maps without some sort of data connectivity? Is there another way around this?
I've opt to not have a data plan on my cellphone service.
I only have GPS and Wifi. But on the highway, there is no Wifi, is there?
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CoPilot Navigator 8 costs $34.99 and it can be installed to any memory card at and above 2 GBs as long as its two folders "2577" and "copilot" are installed to root of the memory (MicroSD) card. You can activate the software via PC or via your mobile device; after activation no data plan is required to run it. All favorites, places, etc are stored to your memory card. I have bought 4 licenses...2 at $19.99 and 2 at $34.99; and had I known it was would be as good as it was during holiday prices, I'd bought 5 licenses for all my Touch Pro 2s.

U need a map

isn't there any free gps app?

dan138zig said:
isn't there any free gps app?
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free should exist but dependable? defeats the whole point of a GPS if not dependable, right?

Maps in HTC Sync 3

Hi, I installed HTC Sync 3 to see how it works with the 2.1 Hero.
In the overview, there is listed, how much space on the SD card the various file types use.
Well, I have some music and photos on it, as I expected. But I also saw there is an option for maps on the SD card (which I unfortunately don't have)
what kind of maps does HTC mean here?
is it some way to download maps for google maps navigation? do they recognize copilot or something else?
i'm really interested, so, does anyone have a clue?

I am actually also looking for an answer to this. Very disturbing, this "maps" label that nobody seems to know what it's there for.

the new range of 'sense' phones have offline navigation installed. I guess it will be something to do with that.
The feature probably allows you to back up your maps.

Yes, me too... I don't find any resources explaining the purpose of this ...
I hope some of you will find one...

Same question here...

minty1978 said:
the new range of 'sense' phones have offline navigation installed. .
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Do they? What maps and what navigation system? AFAIK Google maps tiles cannot be cached onto card. If there is a way I would be interested!
By the way with the new Sync the only reference to maps is in the SD card usage - they are not included in the list of data than can be synced, so it is nothing to do with backing up maps by the looks of it.
I have almost 4GB of maps on my card from two different sat nav programmes (Sygic for Europe and Copilot for USA), and yet according to Sync I have no maps at all! So it cannt recognise maps from two major sat nav apps.

How to increase free space of my SD Card?

I've already installed CM7 and am trying to install Sygic and successfully installed. But when I ran Sygic it said that SD Card must have atleast 500 MBs free space. I observed that my SD Card'd only 47x MBs. How can I increase free space of my SD Card (There're any programs installed yet and I used 2 GBs SD Card)? Can I remove clockworkmod folder b'cos they used more space?

Inside clockworkmod folder you have a folder named backup, if you have done any backups of your device then they will be there, they are pretty big so they might free some space if you copy them to your pc or delete them.. I suggest you copy them to your PC because you never know when will you need them

Yes,it works.Your instruction helps me a lot and sygic (aura) still didn't work. But Ndrive and iGo can work but still looking for new updated map.
Thanks.

VRmagician said:
Yes,it works.Your instruction helps me a lot and sygic (aura) still didn't work. But Ndrive and iGo can work but still looking for new updated map.
Thanks.
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I tried to install sygic too, but it wont work, i want an offline map because in my country mobile internet isnt cheap

You could try copilot. I'm using it daily and works fine.
Sent from my HTC Tattoo using XDA

kemoba said:
I tried to install sygic too, but it wont work, i want an offline map because in my country mobile internet isnt cheap
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I have an absolutely superb offline nav maps of your, and all other surrounding countries only 200 MB heavy, and a fenomenal piece of android software called iGo with which I`m thrilled. Think you should try it too.

itadic said:
I have an absolutely superb offline nav maps of your, and all other surrounding countries only 200 MB heavy, and a fenomenal piece of android software called iGo with which I`m thrilled. Think you should try it too.
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I used iGO about a year ago while i was still on android 1.6, but now i cant find the lowres version

kemoba said:
I used iGO about a year ago while i was still on android 1.6, but now i cant find the lowres version
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You can download from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853197&page=2 .

Do you have removed all "update-cm-....zip" from the sdcard?
It takes 70-80 MB.
Be sure you have a copy in your PC.