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Hey, I have an HTC Pure, and the stock ROM has been driving me crazy since I got the phone a few months ago. So yesterday, I finally took the plunge and flashed Dutty's Holy Grail ROM.
Afterwards, I have been getting significantly worse signal strength then I did with the stock ROM. I've gone from ~4-5 bars to ~1-2. I just finished a new radio to the device, specifically this one, 4.49.25.91
Aside from the occasional extra bar, there have been no real improvements.
Please, if anyone knows any steps I could take to fix this, I'd appreciate. The battery barely lasts half a day know because I have 1 bar the majority of the time.
demonic_pascal said:
Hey, I have an HTC Pure, and the stock ROM has been driving me crazy since I got the phone a few months ago. So yesterday, I finally took the plunge and flashed Dutty's Holy Grail ROM.
Afterwards, I have been getting significantly worse signal strength then I did with the stock ROM. I've gone from ~4-5 bars to ~1-2. I just finished a new radio to the device, specifically this one, 4.49.25.91
Aside from the occasional extra bar, there have been no real improvements.
Please, if anyone knows any steps I could take to fix this, I'd appreciate. The battery barely lasts half a day know because I have 1 bar the majority of the time.
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Just keep trying different radios. .91 works okay in SoCal, but I had better battery with .17
I had no signal after flashing HG 10 but after a hard reset it came back. You may want to run the connection setup wizard.
Some older dutty's HG ROMs had that issue, try to search forum here and on htcpedia.com
post your concerns in the ROM's thread instead of opening brand new threads.
So I have seen countless complaints on battery and reception regarding the new radio. I personally haven't upgraded it, but seeing as I have seen so many complaints, I'd like to hear if anyone liked the new radio.
I'm not sure if it's the ROM, peoples' location, or what is causing the issues for some people, but so far I am getting an all-negative reaction which makes me not want to update it at all...
Any thoughts specifically regarding the new radio??
i live in ohio and the radio update has improved my signal...at work i would never get an 3g signal and after 8 hours would basically need to throw my phone on the charger...after the update i feeel like i got an extended batter i never leave 3g coverage while at my desk its great i think the main thing it does is attain the 3g better thus improving battery through a quality signal...i am interested to see if it does have someting to do with location as ive seen the mass negativity about this radio update...my opinion people get cold feet about the radio and subconciously start hating it
i flashed the .03 radio. everything seems the same same same
The new radio has GREATLY improved my battery life, but I really cant tell any difference in reception.
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The new radio has GREATLY improved my battery life, but I really cant tell any difference in reception.
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Kind of agree. I can't tell a difference in reception but I believe it has improved my battery.
My battery keeps a charge a lot longer. Also since I've been getting better reception
Im running thr new radio with damage's rom, battery seems wayyy better and signal as well..internet browsings faster too.not sure if thats cause of the new radio or rom.goood stufffff
I haven't really noticed any difference in battery life or signal, not better but not worse either.
Don't really notice any difference after flashing the new one.
+1 better reception and battery here...
phx, az
Didnt seem to kill the battery any faster, I dont think.
It didnt seem to improve my reception
it actually seemed to make my data slower. im still testing this.
I have nothing against it, but Ive had sprint for 10years in my area and after a few months I knew how many bars I had at certain locations.
well after the upgrade I seem to get LESS reception (bars) then before. I dont experience dropped calls or missed txts, etc. so I see no point to go back to the old one. doesnt bother me
as far as battery life I have a 1800mAh battery they still hasnt had but maybe half a dozen charges so i cant really give you any better of an idea.
My battery life is a little better. My reception is not any worse or better really. I see less "bars" but bars don't mean much. My db reading is -75 in my office, which is the same as with the old radio. I do notice my data rates went from about 1100-1200 down to about 600-800 down at best. Upload rates went from 700-800 to 500-600. So I notice slower data which is a bummer.
my battery life drastically improved. i haven't noticed data difference.
I upgraded the radio at the same time I upgraded to the newest Fresh Rom. Shortly after I loaded damage control.
At first I thought my reception was worse but then noticed the signal strength bars only had 4 instead of 6, which makes it look like less signal. But my internet seems noticably faster (could be the 2.1 Rom) and I'm not dropping calls and reception is clear on phone calls.
As to battery life; again hard to say with the new OS, bit its not any worse than before. Still have to charge every night under normal use and sooner with some extra Pandora action tossed in.
I'm averaging 2.5 - 3% battery per hour with the new radio, but I also upgraded to a 2.1 ROM at the same time.
With the 1.5 ROM I was running and the old radio I was averaging 4 - 4.5% per hour.
I can't definitively say if it was the ROM or the radio that made the difference though.
I'm running an Andida 2000mah battery too.
-Daryel
I haven't noticed a difference either way...I went back to stock for the heck of it and everything seems the same...
Meh, its good. I feel like I am getting better battery life. Not sure though. Give or take.
I live in an area that no carrier has great reception, so yeah.
hey guys thanks for all the feedback. i was wondering about this too and since im on this thread i guess i can ask about what .zip file i should use for my rom? or is it the same? im running damageless. thanks!
I say there needs to be an experiment... would the same "differences" come up if a "radio update" came out that only changed the #'s of the baseband version, but said it was better?
just a thought.
This was the original scenario:
When my phone is in standby, I get 42% of the time without signal.
I was using a 2.12 radio, and damn, half of the time people couldn't reach me or only after a while.
So here's the deal, if you have any trouble with getting signal,
just change your radio to 2.10.50.X
have a nice day
I currently use
RADIO_2105026
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and get 98% coverage.
HectiQ said:
When my phone is in standby, I get 42% of the time without signal,
I'm running the latest hyperdroid, this is way to much, but I think it's RADIO-related, can this be possible?
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I m facing the same issue as what you have described. No answer right now .
What radio are you running? Try 2.14, it can't hurt.
2.12, I already know the newest causes the same problem
polo735 said:
What radio are you running? Try 2.14, it can't hurt.
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I have tried the radio 2.14 , problem still persist.
belon_cfy said:
I have tried the radio 2.14 , problem still persist.
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sure, you should try a 2.10, the newer ones always seem to tend this way
okay: for al those who are in need of a proper radio, with 98% reception all of the time, use this one:
RADIO_2105026
I get only 1-2% without signal. maybe someone can cleanup this post and make it sticky, as it is I think, fairly important for ppl. to know they are almost half of the time out of range with a bad radio, for android a suggest a 2.10.50.X radio!
I think it has to do with your carrier, some Radio images work better with other carriers.
BTW, which app are you using to measure your signal strength?
I use battery indicator for measurement of % without signal. For signal strenght/dbm signal status bar, hope that helps you
I'd say it'll also have to do with the carrier. I know a handful of people with a 2.12 and have no reception problems, and likewise for 2.14. Users should definitely try out different radios, but I wouldn't going as far as saying 2.10 is the one and only.
Just to be an oddball around here, I'm on 2.14 right now and it has served me better than a 2.10
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
This thread is pointless, It is carrier dependant, why you should try several before starting threads about ones that don't work!
Some will give you better signal whilst giving quicker battery drain, others will be the opposite, others will give you a good balance, it's all down to trial and error, it's never the case of 'it doesn't work'
I'm running 2.14 and have no issue at all, full signal most of the time and after 3 charge cycles battery is great also, try a few radios for a few days each before coming to the conclusion they 'don't work'
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This thread is pointless, It is carrier dependant, why you should try several before starting threads about ones that don't work!
Some will give you better signal whilst giving quicker battery drain, others will be the opposite, others will give you a good balance, it's all down to trial and error, it's never the case of 'it doesn't work'
I'm running 2.14 and have no issue at all, full signal most of the time and after 3 charge cycles battery is great also, try a few radios for a few days each before coming to the conclusion they 'don't work'
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<_< this thread is not pointless, and if it's carrier dependant, we could maybe make a sticky and ppl post results with there findings for carriers then.
All radio's work, but not all are even effective. And believe me, I tried like 50 radio's before.. 2.12 gave me great call quality but huge battery drain and signal drops, no radio is perfect, but carrier dependant, lol yes some carriers just suck, but I should have signal all the time, I'm on the two biggest networks of my country, providing coverage everywhere, and I tested those out, it really looks like the radio is more affecting it, ofc you will NEVER get the same results with any carrier, but when doing research, you will see that the radio affects your signal. Just try for your self in stead of telling me this thread is pointless. Some radios might be better for some networks, in that case you are right, but in case of battery drain, it is mostly due to the radio, maybe because the way it corresponds with the network/carrier.
i'm using 2.12.50.02.2. no probs here..
edit: for some odd reason I wasn't having any issue with the winmo rom but once i updated android to hyperdroid sense build it was bad.
now updated to the latest build
Hi,
I installed this morning this Rom on my MyTouch 4G. Everything was going good, until i got to my workplace and i realized that my T Mobile Signal Was Extremely weak, and i mean with and X on my signal Status. If i wanted some signal i would have to go out of the building. ( Something that never happens)
So, i would like to know if it is problem with this ROM, or if i have to "flash the radio" ( something that i dont know how to, to be honest) or what could i do.
I got so scared, that i tried to restore my Stock rom ( that i created it with Rom manager), but the thing is that now, all the apps that i had installed on the SD card, they dont show up ( they are not linked) AND the Signal Still is bad!!!!...
So, i dont know if i messed up the phone in anyway ( i did not do eanything extra while installing this new ROM) or what could it be
Anyone out there could help this guy?:-(....
Thanks!
I don't see how installing a ROM could suddenly cause your signal to plummet, especially when so many people are running that ROM without issues. In your case, I would upgrade to the latest radio since that may very well help your signal, and it's the one the dev of that ROM recommends anyway. See this thread for info on the radio flashing procedure and make sure you follow it exactly. If you don't have ADB set up yet, see this excellent thread. Most people highly recommend using ADB since it may prove very useful if you ever get into trouble in the future, but if you'd like alternative radio flashing instructions that avoid the use of ADB, I can provide those too.
TeeJay3800 said:
I don't see how installing a ROM could suddenly cause your signal to plummet, especially when so many people are running that ROM without issues. In your case, I would upgrade to the latest radio since that may very well help your signal, and it's the one the dev of that ROM recommends anyway. See this thread for info on the radio flashing procedure and make sure you follow it exactly. If you don't have ADB set up yet, see this excellent thread. Most people highly recommend using ADB since it may prove very useful if you ever get into trouble in the future, but if you'd like alternative radio flashing instructions that avoid the use of ADB, I can provide those too.
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Ok, thanks!.. Ill try it Tonight.
BTW, Im feeling that my Battery goes down faster. I unplug the phone about 45 in ago, and i ised it a little, and its already at 93%!!!!:-O
DANCCS said:
Ok, thanks!.. Ill try it Tonight.
BTW, Im feeling that my Battery goes down faster. I unplug the phone about 45 in ago, and i ised it a little, and its already at 93%!!!!:-O
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lol I also noticed this on Virtuous Fusion, it was a battery hog on my phone Sense builds usually have a shorter battery life. the radio you flash will affect the battery life also. have you tried recalibrating your battery after a full charge?
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lol I also noticed this on Virtuous Fusion, it was a battery hog on my phone Sense builds usually have a shorter battery life. the radio you flash will affect the battery life also. have you tried recalibrating your battery after a full charge?
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Not really, if you tell me how to do that, I will love you, heheh!....
But the MyTouch 4G doesnt come wiht a Sense build already? shouldnt be any diference between Stock ROM and this one, right?
My Radio that i have is the Stock one. Should i Upgrade it?
DANCCS said:
Not really, if you tell me how to do that, I will love you, heheh!....
But the MyTouch 4G doesnt come wiht a Sense build already? shouldnt be any diference between Stock ROM and this one, right?
My Radio that i have is the Stock one. Should i Upgrade it?
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The easiest way to calibrate you batter is with this app...very straight forward.
And yes, as I said in my previous post you "should" upgrade your radio. I used quotations because it isn't absolutely necessary, and you may very well have fine performance on the stock radio, but eViL does recommend the latest, which seems to work very well for most people.
DANCCS said:
Not really, if you tell me how to do that, I will love you, heheh!....
But the MyTouch 4G doesnt come wiht a Sense build already? shouldnt be any diference between Stock ROM and this one, right?
My Radio that i have is the Stock one. Should i Upgrade it?
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both the stock rom and Virtuous Fusion are Sense builds, but the stock rom is a version of Sense called MySense. Virtuous has A LOT more stuff added onto the rom rather than stock MySense, thats why it uses a bit more battery life. as for the battery calibration, just download the app "Battery Calibration" by Nema and charge your battery until its full. once full, run the app and youre good to go. I wouldnt charge it again until the battery has completely drained as youll get a better reading. as far as the radios go, each radio works differently with everyone. just try them all out and see which one works best for you, comparing battery life/signal strength and coverage
Hum.... Im going to work on the radios, to see whats going on..
another thing that im feeling, is NOW when im upstairs, the phone disconnects itself from the WIFI ( soemthing that never happened to me before). Could it be because of the ROM?
BTW, im really loving this ROM. Its all useful and beautiful!!...
Hi guys,
Welll well, after 2 days on this ROM, all i can say, its been workign perfectly Fine.
I tried 2 apps to WIFI tether but look like they dont work, the only way i can do this, is thru the Hot spot that comes with the ROM, but i cant keep an eye on the Traffic. Any ideas?
DANCCS said:
Hi guys,
Welll well, after 2 days on this ROM, all i can say, its been workign perfectly Fine.
I tried 2 apps to WIFI tether but look like they dont work, the only way i can do this, is thru the Hot spot that comes with the ROM, but i cant keep an eye on the Traffic. Any ideas?
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+1 me too any thing help?
any help about wifitether
You can easily view bandwidth usage on your computer.
If you're using windows, press ctrl+ alt +delete. Select start task manager (unless it already popped up). In windows task manager, click the tab labeled "Networking". Next, click view->select columns... Put a check next to bytes, bytes sent and bytes received. This will show you bandwidth total, uploaded and downloaded respectively in terms of bytes. 1024 bytes = 1 megabyte, 1024 mbytes = 1 gigabyte.
I'm sure other OSes (linux, osx) offer this simple tool as well.
Note: the data session its reset to 0 after restarts and wireless network connection. So, take a note of it before restarting or repairing the wireless connection.
After the Oreo update, my s7 active has really sucked. A lot. It overheats, battery drain is through the roof, it lags constantly, the camera takes a solid 20 seconds to respond at times, and it just generally sucks. The problems sometimes seem to be heat related, as it slows down even more when on charge. I'd seen on another forum that flashing the older CP file would fix the heat issue. Anyone have any luck with this? I haven't done much android modding since the days of ICS/JB/KK, before knox and all of that. Would doing this brick me or trip knox? Any alternate suggestions besides ditching the awful carrier AT&T is in favor of a lesser evil that allows me to use a third party phone with WiFi calling or VoLTE support? That's all that's keeping me with ATT branded phones now, as where I live has little 3g reception for an urban area, so having to drop down on calls without VoLTE is a no-go for me.
Thanks guys!
Have you tried doing a hard reset on the phone first? It sounds like you updated to Oreo with all of your junk on it. No wonder it caused so many problems!
There isn't a way to downgrade from Oreo.
No way to downgrade from nougat but as I understand it, isn't it just the boot loader that can't be rolled back?
I'm not sure if what you're proposing is actually compatible but you could always check.
Best way to keep all your bits and pieces in my opinion is Samsung backup.
Just did it myself and I am getting better battery and cell signal than I ever have! On a two+ year old phone!!
I just got 4 God damn days of light use between charges!
bandario said:
No way to downgrade from nougat but as I understand it, isn't it just the boot loader that can't be rolled back?
I'm not sure if what you're proposing is actually compatible but you could always check.
Best way to keep all your bits and pieces in my opinion is Samsung backup.
Just did it myself and I am getting better battery and cell signal than I ever have! On a two+ year old phone!!
I just got 4 God damn days of light use between charges!
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Sorry, been away for a few days. I have done a reset and it works alright for a day or two then back to total suckage. I managed to drop 55% battery in a matter of two hours this afternoon with moderate use. Bright side, it was cold outside, so I got a nice hand warmer. What did you try? Flashing the older CP/CSC?
I was under the impression that the older OS wouldn't work with newer bootloader.
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Have you tried doing a hard reset on the phone first? It sounds like you updated to Oreo with all of your junk on it. No wonder it caused so many problems!
There isn't a way to downgrade from Oreo.
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Yeah, I've done two hard resets so far. No luck, but I'm backing it up again for one more shot.
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Yeah, I've done two hard resets so far. No luck, but I'm backing it up again for one more shot.
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Before doing anything drastic like attempting to flash CSC from a previous version, have you tried clean flashing the following rom in latest modified Odin including all relevant wipes?
G891AUCS4CRJ1_CL13639069_QB20030093_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT_meta
My original comments were more towards the fact that radio behaviour on this rom has been totally different for me than every other version I've had on the device, as a result I seem to be getting much better battery life. I'm not sure what CSC it comes with, but it is certainly acting in a different fashion to all previous versions: Lots more time with 4G icon, less with LTE. Far more readily jumping over to 3G when the signal is stronger etc.
After charging my device is still getting hot, but not during general use. I think my battery is just dying a slow death - it only has 3000mah capacity now. A real shame that it isn't replaceable without defeating the waterproofing.
If the Sonim XP8 were a little bit better specced I would buy one in a heartbeat.
Nice, I'll give that one a shot. I was going to flash a clean install of CRJ1 tomorrow after it downloaded. Don't have very fast internet here. I appreciate the input!!!
If it weren't for AT&T restricting VoLTE to their branded phones, I'd jump ship to oneplus or anything in the pixel lineup. Or the LG g7. Or literally any third party phone that wouldn't force botched updates and bloatware down my throat constantly and re-enable crap I've disabled with every update. But where I work has great LTE signal, very very little 3g/HSPA+, so not having VoLTE isn't an option. Same for wifi calling where my parents live, poor signal so no use having the phone when I visit if I can't use wifi for calls/texts.
Currently using my old g5. Whew. I forgot that this thing would fry eggs with light use. But at least the battery is replaceable. Tried replacing my aging S7 active battery on my first one. Four days later the bottom half of the screen died. Oops.