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I have read all of the Wiki's and quite a few other postings and will try my first flash when i get home. Does anyone have any advice for me before i try anything? I just got the Wing and it is my 1st PDA and I am very excited to start customizing it but i dont want to trash or as i've heard "brick" the thing so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
flashing a new ROM is actually wwwwaaay easier then the threads teaching you make it seems.
advice is... flash to a custom ROM.
decide what you want your phone to be able to do. compare the different ROMs before you flash. collect and organize cabs etc for the programs you will want to install after flashing. then go for it!!
Thanks for the response. How do io even start to flash do i need special sodtware on my PC. and what is SPL? i read i need 4.0 or higher or i will brick my phone. when i say i am a newb i mean complete newb. i dont even know where to start to install the files or anything.
to check your SPL, perform a soft reset while pressing the camera button. You should see a three colored screen with the words IPL and SPL and whatever. If SPL is over 4, then you can use USPL (temporary unlock) or HardSPL (permanent unlock). Note that in this case unlock means the removal of a block that forbids the flashing of custom roms. This is called a CID unlock.
SPL = Secondary Program Loader
similar to the BIOS in a pc..tells the device to load windows, etc
Hard-SPL = is a "permanent" change/upgrade..in this our case it changes your SPL to "yang4.7" or something like that
Herald-USPL = temporary upgrade to HTC Herald SPL 5+
thanks MV3 for the deffinitions and explanation it really helped alot. where can i find some .cab files at.
not like i wanted.
well things did not go like i wanted because i couldn't even backup my damn contacts because the stupid activesync wont back them up. getting tired so i will try this again tomorrow.
download and install HTC Backup
or PIM Backup..cuz they are freeware hehe
connect to your usb and transfer/install on your device. then you can run the program and backup or restore your contacts, messages, notes, calendar, etc.
if you have a data / internet package..you should be able to download through your phone....if that's not working.. you can download it to your computer..then email it to yourself... but really, via usb is much faster/easier.
cool can i active sync the files i need with this software to or no. and how exactly do i active sync a .cab or flash or anything for that matter.
well... synchronizing with active sync kinda sucks... and is rather annoying
it just synchronizes windows outlook, outlook/ms contacts, and other ms stuff.
if the file is a pc installation/setup file.. you need to connect your phone via usb.. then run the file on your computer and it installs it to your phone... your phone will ask where you want to install it.
if it's a .cab file, transfer it to your phone... then search for where you put it and run the .cab file.
to transfer files between your pc and your phone... on your pc's activesync... click "Explore"... or just open my computer/windows explorer.. and open Mobile Device..or whatever your computer named it.
to flash.. the instructions are usually on that ROM's page..
ok i got it. so i dont necessarily need to install it to a specific folder, just somewhere i will remember.
correct
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if the file is a pc installation/setup file.. you need to connect your phone via usb.. then run the file on your computer and it installs it to your phone... your phone will ask where you want to install it.
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FYI: There is a way around this. When you execute the .exe file it does establish a .cab file in the folder on your PC for ActiveSync to use to install it on your Phone. So, what I have done in the past is go to the folder on my PC, find the .cab file and then transfer that .cab file to my SD Card and then install the .cab file on your phone. Search for where you put it on your Phone SD card and run the .cab file. It does work as I have done it many times. Then continue as stated below.
ok I will try it that way too thanks guys for all your advice. all I,ve done so far is a game and some themes.but I want to get my wing running faster so what should I install. and how can I run a app and still listen to wmedia at the same time?
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FYI: There is a way around this. When you execute the .exe file it does establish a .cab file in the folder on your PC for ActiveSync to use to install it on your Phone. So, what I have done in the past is go to the folder on my PC, find the .cab file and then transfer that .cab file to my SD Card and then install the .cab file on your phone. Search for where you put it on your Phone SD card and run the .cab file. It does work as I have done it many times. Then continue as stated below.
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i don't see the point in that... unless you want to save the .cab file to your storage card...but if that's your point, then "i see..."
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ok I will try it that way too thanks guys for all your advice. all I,ve done so far is a game and some themes.but I want to get my wing running faster so what should I install. and how can I run a app and still listen to wmedia at the same time?
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To make it faster, you have to kill a lot of the junk that's in it from starting up, or you can use any third party ROM.
Hello fellow newbie..
Beleive me i feel u and all these questions ur asking, i was in the same boat and for the most part still am about certain things...i to wanted my device (wing) to run faster and EVERYONE advised me to flash a 3rd party rom (ttran biggy 3.0 is awesome) heres the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365607
not only is it fast and slick lookin but it gets rid of all that 'stuff' u dont need and frees up ALOT of memeory so u can still add stuff (cabs/programs) u want...he even provides instructions and 'how-tos' on the thread just follow exactly using USPL instructions when flashing...if u are in need of cabs go to the 'Herald' section or click here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=348) its the same device and concepts as the Wing, ull find everythin u need here
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i don't see the point in that... unless you want to save the .cab file to your storage card...but if that's your point, then "i see..."
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There are many people who cannot connect with ActiveSync. I had trouble with it for months. So, that is another way of installing an application without using ActiveSync. This is also used as you said, to save the Cab file on your SD card.
Thanks Ivan i have read your "how to flash" thead alot of your other postings bro so i know you have this thing down pack and appreciate the advice.
Thank you too timace any dod and dont's advice you have feel free to Pm me or post it. I just dont want to brick my phone.
yesterday i loaded some themes and a game and some of my ringtones that i had made from my old nextel and now i feel brave enough to flash the rom.
hi all
i cant install alot of my favourite softwares such as SPB , i dont know why? can anyone tell me the reason plz?
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hi all
i cant install alot of my favourite softwares such as SPB , i dont know why? can anyone tell me the reason plz?
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can't help you or tell you the reason because you are not giving enough details about what you are trying to install, what is going wrong. How are you trying to install. Exe or .cab files. are you just getting error's during the installation
i tried to install .cab & .exe , but it says install unsuccessful, for example SPB & Battery status
mmmm
On what ?... is the cab on the phone or on the PC ???????
i tried both , but i couldnt
You have the HTC Touch Elf right? No cabs at all are instaling on your phone.
Possibiliites:
1. The cab files are being currupted either while you are downloading them or while you are sending them to your phone. FYI Cab files are to be installed via your phone not PC. Transfer the complete cab to phone and just click it to install - Do Not Unzip it. (A cab file looks like it is a zip file or a rar file wen it is on your PC but don't be fooled. it is a cab and does not need to be unzipped) you will only see a bunch of messy files and will just get confuzed. just place the cab on your phone and tap it with your stylus to initiate install
Exe's are to be installed via your PC to your phone through activsinc. place the exe on your desktop (Or wherever) and connect your phone to your PC using Activsinc. Then click the exe on your desktop and follow installation instructions - NOte you will have to still do some clicking on your phone to allow the installation.
2. you are not installing them properly and therfore follow instructions above.
3. your phone is currupt somehow (I don't see how) Try a hard reset and see if the programs will install after that. if not, you might want to return your phone for warranty (I am assuming you just got this phone and this is the first time you are trying to install something.
4. Maybe you have run out of room on your device to install any more applications (if you have been installing tons of other stuff successfully)
I have never gotten any errors installing cabs or exe's exept for when I was trying to install something that my phone did not support. (Not a valid WM application) or something like that.
Edit: You still are not give us much information - What type of error are you getting - What does your phone show/tell you?
Does it start to install and fail half way through? does it not start at all? does it install and the programs just do not run?
Tell us what program you are trying to install - what error you are getting and when you are getting it. Tell us the method you have used to install it etc....
If you want help you will have to provide us with as much information and detail as you can. Otherwise - Good Luck.
I will check back here regularly to see your response and try to help, but if you don't give us much more detail - no one will be able to help you.
Did you flashed your ROM recently?
it start to install and fail half way through, but not all of the softwares , for example i cant install tcpmp,wm router , battery status , and alot of softwares , the error is always the same ( it start to install and fail half way through)
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it start to install and fail half way through, but not all of the softwares , for example i cant install tcpmp,wm router , battery status , and alot of softwares , the error is always the same ( it start to install and fail half way through)
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I don't know about battery status or wm router but TCPMP is an exe type installation. if you try to install this using your phone by putting the TCPMP installation on your phone and clicking to install, it won't work. You have to put the installation file on your computer, connect your device to your computer through activesinc. then click the TCPMP Installation on your desktop and follow instructions. Make sure you accept installation on your device when your device asks. The others may be the same
i did like that , but nothing changed , same message , install unsuccessful
shadows of yesterday said:
i did like that , but nothing changed , same message , install unsuccessful
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Are you trying to install to your storage card or to device? Are you certain that you have enough storage space left?
Do you have any problems with Activsinc?
Have you tried downloading another copy of TCPMP - Maybe the copy you have is no good.
yeh , i tried on both storage and device memory , i have 1.5 gb remaining on storage also
my active sync is working in perfect condition, i dont know wht happend , ok , is there anything that i can upgrade my phone ???
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Did you flashed your ROM recently?
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You never answered the above question.
shadows of yesterday said:
yeh , i tried on both storage and device memory , i have 1.5 gb remaining on storage also
my active sync is working in perfect condition, i dont know wht happend , ok , is there anything that i can upgrade my phone ???
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I don't know if I can help you with this problem. I have never had any problems installing anything onto my device even when the app wasn't compatible. usually still installed, just wouldn't run. I am still using official stock WM 6.0 rom that came on my device. (have not ever flashed a new ROM or Radio and don't know anything about that. If you did flash a new ROM or radio, that could be what is causing your problems and you may want to examine in the thread where you got your ROM or Radio from for answers or to see if anyone else is having the same difficulties. Perhaps PM the person who cooked the ROM. If you havn't flashed any new ROM or Radio, then maybe you changed something in your registry that you shouldn't have with a registry editor (just a thought - don't know if you have ever done this) or maybe you have an app on your phone that is causing conflict when trying to install other apps. You can always try a hard reset of your device (if you don't mind starting from scratch again customizing your device) and then try installing TCPMP and see if it works right after a hard reset. That would suggest either something was changed in your registry or that another app was causing conflict. Bit of a pain in the a## having to reinstall everything(unless you don't have much installed on your device) and still no guarantee that it will work. Before doing a hard reset, you might want to look into backing up your device. (I don't know anyting about backing up - what program to use or how much it can back up such as setting or such but you might want to check it out. Also make sure you sincronize your device with your computer prior to hard reset so that all your contacts, appointments etc... are up to date that way after a hard reset you can just syncronize your device again and get your contacts and appointments etc... back.
If anyone else has any suggestions here -- Please feel free to jump in. I know that I would be really annoyed not being able to install new apps to my device.
Good luck. I hope this gets figured out for you
Rod
i had the same problem, it was unbelievably frustrating, i had to restore my X1i to factory settings, that fixed the problem.
I think you should follow hotrod101's suggestion and do a hard reset. Its quite likely that your phone has malfunctioned or something. It's probably going to save you a lot of work in the long run. Or turn in your device in one of the HTC service centers as already stated. Don't forget to back all your stuff up first.
Good Luck.
thanx alot
you did not say whether your rom is original or coked as i met some problems with cocked roms in installing arabic based applications that was easily installed before flashing me device
Did you get things figured out - If so please share with the rest what you did to solve your problem, in case others are having similar problems. Did one of our suggestions help or did you find another solution?
same problem on my Touch Pro, seams to be common ... some say that it is due to the fixed number (50 installed programs) on the touch flue ... however, I have no more information of how did they got this result, or what is the registry of this issue???
I hope if someone help on this to avoide us the headache cused by hard reset, just thinking about it make me crazy.
even hard reset is not a solution.
hey everyone. i just got my new x1 a couple of days ago and its a really kool phone.
i manage to get the roms to work and all thru the step by step guide in the ROM development sections.
but i dun understand how to install the applications. i notice they said to just run the .exe file, but my question is do i download the cab file and put it in my memory card and then run it on the x1?
sry im really slow at this. i ve been reading alot of the info here for the past days, but i couldnt find how to install the apps.
Thanks alot,
and you got roms working?
basically there are 2 types of installation 1st .cab file you install that in your phone(copy to memory card and run it) 2nd .exe you have to run this on your PC with phone connected with activesync
yea, the rom is working fine.
and thanks alot for your feed back. imma go try it now
Thanks!!
guys i have playing around the registries and i saw that i can boot a rom present at the location mentioned .but the problem is that it cant boot an .nbh format file..Its booting files present in it can any body help me extracting all the files in an rom ....if this worked it will profit all the win32 users alot who are faceing flashing problem this is simplest method i found ....plz after getting solutions n after making sure ill let u know guys how it done i dont want nebody taking this riskk....sooo plz
what reg keys are you talking about here??
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what reg keys are you talking about here??
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hiii ..the registries were like h_key/localmachine/init/bootvars/masterkeyfiledictorie it was /windows by default..i used my extrom that is /storagecard/windows/ well its booting the folder but due 2 lack of some file getting switched .off....kkk..lets see im not gonna give up ...ORTHER PLEASE DONNOT TRY THIS ITS VERY RISKY UR CELL MIGHT GO DEAD SO PLEASE..well hopes so this work still waiting of our members to a conclusion....
i'm just guessing here coz i don't have that much of in-depth know-how about it but...err...even if your system theoretically worked, wouldn't that reg key only be present and accessible when there is a proper booting Windows based OS on the device first...
as far as i am aware of (and that awareness is very limited in scope at this point in time) Windows is the only OS using the sorta reg keys we use (do correct me if i'm wrong)
and assuming that even if we do get it to boot from an external location, for instance a mem card, wouldn't that still mean that we would require a Windows base on the device memory first...
isn't that kinda redundant??
and suppose we keep an absolutely clean ROM on the device and have a loaded ROM in an external location and then boot off of it...our GENE's processor and RAM are still not powerful enough to deal with the added load on it...
now don't get me wrong...i'm not trying to put you down...i would even help in any way if possible but i just don't what it is you're trying to do because i fail to see how this would alleviate the problem of flashing in any manner...
may i also suggest you post you idea up in the WinMo Development thread so that you can catch the attention of other advanced users who could help you out or shed some light on the use of the reg key...
u haven't put me down ..wat u said was n is absoulately correct .thankin u from bottom of the heart for giving such an precious knowledge 2 us.n pls help me with sum more ideas in future regarding this thread pls pls ........thankinn u n hve a greatday....;-)
just because you hit a stumbling block here doesn't mean you have to pass up on it...
try posting stuff that you find out that hasn't been tried/used well before on the WinMo Q & A or Dev thread...you never know what sorta breakthrough you might make...people here are incredibly helpful but the only way they (we?) can help you is if you are gonna share information that you have...
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just because you hit a stumbling block here doesn't mean you have to pass up on it...
try posting stuff that you find out that hasn't been tried/used well before on the WinMo Q & A or Dev thread...you never know what sorta breakthrough you might make...people here are incredibly helpful but the only way they (we?) can help you is if you are gonna share information that you have...
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well booting is possible through Storrage card -. but the problem is that getting the rom files does any 1 has and idea how we get all the files From nbh file any body having 1dea of getting Please p:s^here ..well sum guys say tht omap 850 can't offerd such an data load ...well tht fake I don't believe thz it nothing 2 do with processor it regestry ..me n friend found tht default setting for data transfer with microsd is 64 byte and and sdHC is 256 byte for booting if u microsd whn u use microsd change it 2 128 byte not more tht cool speed has omap 850 can handle 32gb memory card 2gb is nothing in front of it ...well got 50% sucees for thz post.i put all start menu programme in storage card guys u not belive tht i've got ram space used is only 34% ill post an image of it .....tryin now to put all the programmes let see let c for rest 50% plz feel free to post ur suggestion it all for u guys n e1 im not gonna give up so early ....the reason y it takin time is tht pc's motherboard has crashed n its given for repairing.............plz keep post I'll prefer reply
POSTING THREAD UNCESSARLY MAY PROVE DANGEROUS BECAUSE WE GUYS FLOOD THE SERVERS N THE ADMINISTRATION MAY GET UPSET SO PREFER REPLIES INSPITE OF REPLING WITH NEW THREAD ....BECAUSE I'VE SEEN MANY GUYS DOING THIS.....have a nice day
guys guys my solution is working ...u wanna know does ur memory card has the folder WINDOWS on the root..
.well if not don't worry ..
1-if u are having .net framework 3.5 cab install it on the storage card ..after tht u will windows folder on ur sd root "ROOT-the folders which r welcomed or opened when u open or execute storage card through explorer..
NoW things tht u need to boot rom on storage card r
1- resco explorer latest version install it ..n if u r havin it check whiether it not an expired version ...
2- run the resco explorer ..one good thing is tht resco has an regedit s\w in it which we will require after wards ..
3-configure resco explorer ..n then in menu\option\ general\ browser uncheck all options n press ok button...
4-go on windows folder not the one on storage card outside it ...the windows folder where all the rom files are present ...and select all files on in the windows folder..
5- after tht a long tab on it thn select property..uncheck all except ROM option cause it not possilble to do so ...after tht press ok...
6-now start copying file from windows to \storage card\windows ....it take a very long time and do make sure tht u have 120 mb on storage card ...
7- while copying u will hve to keep pressing "yes" button all the time whenever required ...because copying denied by sum file but thts okay ...n don't lose u patient while doing so ...action stopped due to sum reson u may continue by same proccedure but "skip all "file already copied.....after finishing ....go to resco registry...
8-in resco registry open HkEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init\BootVars and modify the string value of MasterKeyFileDir from
\windows to \storage card\windows
pls don't mistake it with backslash"/" it ALWAYS "\" in registry ...now what
9-its finished n u all done but plz check all file copied I know sum file couldnot be copied but don't worry thoose file are .dll files mainly containing registry and work according with HKEY's ...
now do a softreset let it boot n after booting let it settle down for few minutes for the 1st 15min it goes slow but after ward goesssss very smoth....
note:-THIS CONDITION GOES TRUE IF U R HAVING GENE THAT IS HTC P3400 OR HTC P3400i BECAUSE ITS TESTED WITH GENE OTHER PLEASE DON'T NOT TRY IF U TRY AND CAUSE ANY DAMAGE TO UR OS OR ANY OTHER RELATED THING ...I AND XDA ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR IT"
10- BEFORE I EXIT ONE MORE THING THIS ARE TEMPORARY CHANGES WHICH MAY BE CHANGED AFTER U HARD RESET UR MOBILE N U CAN FOLLOW THIS INSTRUCTION IF U HAD N HARD RESET UN WILLINGLY.......
have a nice day n sry abt my english ....pls give a feed back .....
regarding your first post ->
before i begin i'd like to make to assumption, one for me and one on your part...
assumption 1: your project aims at getting a ROM to boot up from the memory card instead of the very limited phone memory
assumption 2: you believe booting off the memcard will improve on the performance and speed
now let me get to the point-
if you dump a stock ROM or even a cooked ROM what you will get is a huge number of files and modules...alongwith a .rgu and .reg files...tons of them...
now simply copying them over to the mem card won't make it work...
the .reg and .rgu files which contain all the registry entries for the software need to be added into the system registry (which is ironically located in the phone memory) for the program to function as most of them maintain settings and records and certificates on the registry and access and refer to them while running
now this work or adding the registry entries is usually done by the kitchen for us cooks...
it can be done by hand as well but the sheer amount of time and patience required for it to be done this way is way to overwhelming....
and it can only be entered by hand if there already is an operating system functioning on the device
so for now...i'm leaving that out as an option...because basically no reg entries mean no OS
our gene are able to read mem card higher than 4 Gb because the SDHC drivers required for this to be possible are cooked in with our devices...
SDHC cards do not work with stock 5.0 and 6.0 WM ROMs because they can't recognize/handle them...
now about your second post ->
what you've done is copied your system files onto your mem card and made your system boot into it...
the only way to know if it is genuinely booting up with the file in mem card and NOT with the ones in the phone memory \Windows folder is by deleting the files from phone memory...
and even then, you'll still be accessing the registry from phone memory to get the files from the mem card to function probably
now a request to you...
i want to know what exactly it is that you are trying to do...
you mentioned you wanted to get a ROM working this way to ease the burden of flashing...but this wouldn't help at all as it would still require a running OS on the phone and also need corresponding reg entries for a different ROM loaded on the mem card if you were to boot into one from there...
its just that i'm losing point to what you are aiming to do...
if i understood it better i could even help a bit myself...i've been cooking ROMs for a fairly long time so i could even provide ROMs dumps if needed...
so if you could, just write down a few lines about what you want to achieve via this...
Brother wat u said is correct...e1 im tryin to reduce the flashing accident without excepting any reward ...I've been a victim of flashing.losing my gene dead so.
frist I was scared after completeing the procedure tht my mobile might get stuck on bootloader mode but fortunately it started ...after looking at the registry sawed tht while booting it take help of the files present in documents n setting folder rest everything from windows which now is \storage card\ windows getting RAM free near 50% ...but the problem is tht flash a rom files go in windows folder im looking to change tht scenerio over here ....belive me the speed is improved a bit while multi-taskIng ..so I can say i ve 5% success...pls post sum ideas or question u may get....'''IDEA GIVES BRITH TO INVENTIONS''' tc
have a look at the ExtenDir project...you'll find it in a quick search
i have hd2 and i just now put in it windows7 after long time off headek
but now the phone going crazy like:
1. the battery work for 3 hour maximum
2. cant read massage
3. i cant see the log history
4. i cant see miss call
5. the sd card not working
and it continue can someone help me ...
At a guess. I'd suggest you might have an SD card that WP7 doesn't like. You could try reflashing with a different card, if you have one.
Failing which, remove WP7 and go back to your previous OS.
Lots of threads around about both of these if you search. Good luck.
i ill flash it if i can but everything stuck i cant connact to pc at all
i try to many time but it not work plus i have many sd card non off them work ,, befor that i was have android and windows 6.5 and they working o0ok .. can u give me away to make my phone have android or windows ?? thanx for ur help
Have a read of this thread. It will tell you how to go back to WM6.5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912416
Adam.