Memory release question - Mogul, XV6800 General

I use memmaid and I have noticed that while its reclaim ram function does a decent job of freeing up some memory, the one thing i can do to get back alot of ram is to run internet explorer and do some surfing.This uses up a lot of ram but when I shut down I.E. it releases the ram back up to around 18mb. Memaid can never seem to get that much back. Wondering if there is a setting in memaid or possibly another program which will consume a large amount of ram then release it and see if that does better at freeing up ram?

The Exchange Factor
I should add that free RAM, is, in my opinon, widely affected by whether or not you use Microsoft Exchange for e-mail.
Before using Exchange, my RAM hovered at 22-23 MB.
After switching to my exchange account at work, my RAM eventually drops to around 18-19 MB of RAM. It doesn't seem to go below 18, though. Flexmail 4 has the same impact on RAM, so I stuck with Outlook.
Just for the record, I made these observations using both DCD's 1.6.10 ROM and DCD's 3.2.5 ROM. I had 27-28 MB free on a soft reset with the 1.6.10 ROM (5.23 MB pagepool), and 25 MB free on a soft reset with the 3.2.5 ROM (6 MB pagepool).

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Average amount of RAM free?

Whats a good amount of RAM to have free?
Between 14 an 18 Mb, I think...
Mine S200 below 12/10Mb becomes slugish
Ok thanks, so RAM is purely programs running, startup programs and DLLs? Is there any way to minimize RAM usage?
I noticed in memaid you can see today plugins that load DLLs ...anyone had any experience cleaning up the system for minimal RAM usage?
using less today plugins results in less ram usage, yes.
Even taking the sd card out of the pda leads to free more memory.
40mb for me after perfect reset and AFTER install of the extended rom
40mb free....whats the average amount u other ppl have free?? mines about 15-19mb free
12-15. but I do best to contol constantly the on/off programs

Cache: Relationship administrated/adjusted - memoryleak

Since some months I'm wondering whats better:
1.) To let WM administrate the file system filter/fatfs/glyph cache size or to
2.) Use one of the tweak tools to set a specific value.
I think if WM is administrating this caches the free ram will go down and down and down, apparently WM is not able to free the ram, the result is a memory leak.
If a specific value is set it will cost some ram, but its faster and the amount of free is more or less stable. After some hours of using the device the memory leak also shows up, but in my opinion its not as bad as if WM is administrating it.
Is this memoryleak in WM devices caused by this caches or is there another reason for it?

Why is my memory so low?

I have a verizon xv6800 and it only shows 19MB of free ram (in Running Programs). It also only shows 47.46MB total program memory and total 164.41 storage memory. I though it was supposed to have 64 MB total program memory and 256MB total storage memory?
some of each is used by the OS, memory issues with the phone have been known since day 1, alot of the custom roms help the ram issue by disabling uneeded services, you might want to look into those
I looked at some of those ROMs and they still show like 20MB being used when everything is closed (with about 27MB or so free). I guess my real question is why does it show my total at only 47MB ? vs 64MB? hidden useage by the OS? If so, then why is 20MB in used after a hard-reset? visible use by the OS ?
yeah, 47vs64 is hidden by the OS, used fro shell and other things you cant kill
20vs47 is other stuff, services, autorun programs, today plugins, etc
Hey i would suggest getting oxios hibernate/memory app. It really does help. Sometimes i go from 78% usage down to a 55% usage with one tap of the program. I currently am running at 49%, which is not bad at all.
But why do I start with 20 megs on a reboot...but can never get back to it...even after I close everything AND use oxios...Why are there 3 instances of the phone app running? Can't close em...
I NEVER get back to 20! This is really starting to piss me off.
I just flashed DCD's newest rom, and I got about 27.41MB. After installing about 10 apps (some and some aren't ram dependent), and now I have 24.84MB with a fresh soft reboot. Which, I think, is still pretty low, but it is definitely better then the VZW shipped version.
We have to face the facts. We got a very crappy set of software with our Titans from every provider. MS dropped a load when they saw all the complaints and the people leaving for the Iphones. A few lucky people have been fortunate enough to test our new verson of WM6 and so far everyone says its much faster and alot smaller. This phone has the most horrible hardware support on the market atm as well. This should be greatly improved with the next rom from HTC. Do not forget everything you put on your phone is based off of bad code and bad hardware support. Every mod out there is 2nd rate untill we get better stuff from HTC and microsoft. Bottom line is you have to wait for the new ROM.
Does anyone have any clue when the new WM 6.1 Rom will be out? I love my titan but my god its slow I am seriously thinking about defecting to an iphone just cause its faster.
sudermatt said:
But why do I start with 20 megs on a reboot...but can never get back to it...even after I close everything AND use oxios...Why are there 3 instances of the phone app running? Can't close em...
I NEVER get back to 20! This is really starting to piss me off.
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You possibly could create a custom ROM and then change the Pagepool size. That should get you well over 20. I'm using DCD 1.6.10 Kitchen and changed the Pagepool size to 4MB. That increase available Program Memory to 27MB after a fresh install of the ROM.
having more memory on this phone will not make it run any faster or better. It becomes an issue only when you run out of memory running applications lie PIE, Opera, Picsel, ETC.
I'm running DCD's 1.6.10 Rom with my configuration and apps I have installed I still get 24.8 megs of ram free and I havent soft reset for atleast 24 hours.

CPU shows 77% when nothing is running!!

I am using a standard UK T-mobile 6.5. I have nothing running on the phone, all apps have been closed, but when you click the top right-hand corner, the CPu shows its running at 77%!!
Does this mean that there is something keeping the processor busy or is 6.5 ineffiecient..or both maybe?
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
use cleanRAM which is from the best free application for HTC devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514333
It's not the CPU usage, it's RAM used.
You say nothing is running, but the nature of the beast is that normally there are applications running in the background, Outlook, light & G sensor, the GSM/3G radio, if you use the CleanRam application and looking into the Running processes there is always something running there.
I'm never too worried with CPU or memory usage as long as the device runs fine, I don't care! ...and if it slows down, I just reset (off & on) once in a while (also use cleanRam)
Ram is also ate up by cache that HTC sets. Having lots of apps precached means faster loading of those apps.
If you care about the amount of free memory... then flash a custom rom. The later Official WM6.5 HTC roms are killer.
and remember that unused ram is wasted ram. So what are you going to do with more free ram? It would be there for nothing.
georgeono said:
and remember that unused ram is wasted ram. So what are you going to do with more free ram? It would be there for nothing.
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That's all very well, but if the RAM cannot be freed it's a problem when you want to run a program that needs more. I used to be able to run iGO8 navigation software with text-to-speech voices with the stock HTC 6.1 ROM (as long as I did a RAM clean up before starting it - to get RAM usage down to under 55%). Now, with the HTC 6.5 ROM I cannot get the RAM usage down low enough for TTS to work. It's a memory hog.
Anyone got any ideas (with the stock ROM - it's a corporate phone I should not re-flash)?
Filbert
Thanks for all the responses. I guess is nothig to worry about then.

froyobylaszlo Questions

HTC Mytouch 32B
Froyobylaszlo
CC @ 18% / VMH @ 32M
256MB ext4 / 0 swap (swap not enabled)
Home and Messaging locked
very few small apps installed
First off, quick question. Anyone know why My phone RAM is Completely spent? It constantly sits around 15MB free of 110MB. Larger games wont load and just crash at the loading screen to the home screen, other games are lagy at times. If this was a computer I would say its a ram issue and I am running out of usable ram. Any ideas?? I just want to get this phone working so I can sell the headache. So far this ROM seems to run awesome and has none of the issues I experienced with the other ROMS except when put under load.
64MB swap and still no change
still curious as to why my RAM is spent..... Installed a RAM app and confirmed 15-20MB available of 115MB. I used this app to kill the running precesses and it brought me up to 45MB free but it gradualy dropped back down to 15-20 free. Even with all services Killed, including the system sevices, I was still at 45MB free of 115MB. What is using the other 70MB? Anyone?
SD-Ext
Total Space
229MB
Available Space
211
Internal Phone Storage
Total Space
296MB
Available Space
199MB
Mem info
Total
110MB
Available
15MB
Please someone explain this to me! Is the Mem info not the RAM? Why is it constantly spent?

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