Connect Polaris in "disk drive" - mode? - Touch Cruise ROM Development

Hi!
I just found out that the Diamond can be connected to a PC in a "disk drive" mode - instead of "Active Sync" to facilitate (big) file transfer.
Is there a chance to get the Polaris to connect via this route?
thank!
Christian

Use Softick Card Export II 3.08 or above!

SDHC support..
fktsndr said:
Use Softick Card Export II 3.08 or above!
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I tried version 3.13 and it supports MicroSDHC 4gb
http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/
But it is trail version, you can use it 21 days

But this Softic card export is really slow (900 k/s). You need about 1/2 hour to transfer one divx movie (700 MB). In my opinion this software is useless.

gregy74 said:
But this Softic card export is really slow (900 k/s). You need about 1/2 hour to transfer one divx movie (700 MB). In my opinion this software is useless.
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You can propose anything alse?
I also used Card Export and it nice for me. Small, fast. More faster than ActiveSync transfer.

I am looking for something that allows faster transfers between PC and the Polaris (mostly from PC to Polaris) too. Tried normal activesync, card export, wifi connection to the lan and copying from a windows share. None of those getting any close to the speed of a simple card reader. The only problem with a card reader is having to get the card out :-(
It seems that the limiting factor here is the Polaris card access speed. Any chances to somehow improve this ?

interesting how it work on diamond possible to port ?

The Polaris is only USB 1.1 ("Full-Speed" - 12 Mbit/s), while most card readers nowadays are USB 2.0 ("Hi-Speed" - 480 Mbit/s).
Unfortunately, this is a hardware limitation and has nothing to do with the software or ROM you are using.

tenticle56 said:
The Polaris is only USB 1.1 ("Full-Speed" - 12 Mbit/s), while most card readers nowadays are USB 2.0 ("Hi-Speed" - 480 Mbit/s).
Unfortunately, this is a hardware limitation and has nothing to do with the software or ROM you are using.
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Polaris is USB 2.0 according to HTC.
http://www.htc.com/uploadedFiles/Common/Product_Documents/UK/HTC_Touch_Cruise_CH_EN.pdf

FTP
When I'm to copy large files to the PDA I use a free FTP server on the Polaris and copy the files when connected to WiFi.
It's not as fast as taking the card out and inserting into the PC, but it's very easy and convenient. Using a good FTP client like FileZilla I can que up files and transfer them with a simple click.
Free PocketPC FTP Server: http://www.mochasoft.dk/freeware/ftpd.htm

From my tests, the polaris can write and read up to 2MB per sec(internaly) and up to 900 KB using card export.
My card reader reads and writes on my microsd up to 8MB/s.
In this case, it's better to remove the card and place it into a cardreader.
LE: over wifi the speed is much slower about 300 KB using a ftp server

USB 2.0 Full Speed
As tenticle56 wrote above, the Polaris is a Full Speed device opposed to the Diamond which is Hi Speed, while both of them are USB 2.0.
Please compare here
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1311&id2=1307&id3=1306
This is often misunderstood in IMO purposely misleading selling point.
However if there was no HiSpeed for a device without memory card slot, who would buy it?
Unfortuantely hardware never supported HiSpeed yet for devices with memory extension so we need to wait on the Raphael.
Upshot: If you need high data rates there is no way around a card reader and be sure to use a high speed card, too. Vendors here also often 'cheat' customers by only advertising the card's max reading speed, while for transfer usually the writing speed (often a multiple below max read speed) is the critical value.

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USB Storage

Can anyone help - I would like to use my o2 xda mini-s to transfer files from work - can the device be set up work in a similar way to a USB drive - I need to connect it to Windows 2000 at work - I'd idealy like it to show up as a drive letter - I have a 2GB flash card installed.
Thanks in advance
try WM5storage google it
the program is actually called "WM5torage"

File Tranfer Doesn't Work Now??

I copy pics from my storage card to my PC desktop – and they look like they transfer – dialogue box saying “converting to PC format” but then there’s nothing - no file transferred. I can see the pics on the Wiz but not when I view then as thumbnails in explorer. I’ve transferred files, but something’s changed now.
Stock Cingular 8125 2G SD to Windows XP se, 3.2 Ghz, 2G ram, 500G HD - running Mozilla, Avast, and Jetcio FW.
Thks in advance - Tom
Rexgo said:
I copy pics from my storage card to my PC desktop – and they look like they transfer – dialogue box saying “converting to PC format” but then there’s nothing - no file transferred. I can see the pics on the Wiz but not when I view then as thumbnails in explorer. I’ve transferred files, but something’s changed now.
Stock Cingular 8125 2G SD to Windows XP se, 3.2 Ghz, 2G ram, 500G HD - running Mozilla, Avast, and Jetcio FW.
Thks in advance - Tom
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perhaps you wanna try wm5torage?

little problem with RDP version WM6

i have htc x7500 with wm5 but i am using RDP version wm6 and after i connect to my home computer through 3g i get this large file named
"bcache22.bmc" its 19MB in size and it gets stored \my device\temp does anyone now how to get that file moved onto the sd card. thanks
irus said:
i have htc x7500 with wm5 but i am using RDP version wm6 and after i connect to my home computer through 3g i get this large file named
"bcache22.bmc" its 19MB in size and it gets stored \my device\temp does anyone now how to get that file moved onto the sd card. thanks
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Have you tried registry
Hkey_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Terminal server Client\BitmapPersistCacheLocation
The string is set to "\Temp", you can try to change it to your storage card to see if this works.
I tested. It works on my Athena.

Mass Storage Mode

Has anyone had any luck in getting the Treo Pro to function as a USB mass storage device (using WM5torage, CardExport II, some ported hack of the WM6 USB control panel applet, or some other solution)?
I'm considering getting rid of my iPod as the Pro works quite well with Kinoma Play, but getting the files on using Activesync is painfully slow, and pulling the card out of the TP to connect directly to my computer is, well, just not a realistic option.
Thanks!
I've installed "Wei enterprise's USB to PC" as all of the usual suspects refused to work. This one works - but only intermittently. There is a conflict between these and the Palm programme that installs activesync.
I have made it work by keeping an eye on the phone screen and "cancelling" whenever the installation programme runs. Once we get into the ROM Dump, hopefully we'll be able to uncook this activesync installer and make this work properly!
John
johnjtaylor said:
I've installed "Wei enterprise's USB to PC" as all of the usual suspects refused to work. This one works - but only intermittently. There is a conflict between these and the Palm programme that installs activesync.
I have made it work by keeping an eye on the phone screen and "cancelling" whenever the installation programme runs. Once we get into the ROM Dump, hopefully we'll be able to uncook this activesync installer and make this work properly!
John
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You probably don't need a rom cooking for that. Just try task manager v.3.1 from this forum, and go to service and device tab. One of them is your mass storage service ( be carefull, there is also a real storage service, which serves your SD and internal memory). Just stop it, and see how your program works.
If you don't know which one to stop, just post here the list of all running services, and I'll tell you what to try.
johnjtaylor said:
I've installed "Wei enterprise's USB to PC" as all of the usual suspects refused to work. This one works - but only intermittently. There is a conflict between these and the Palm programme that installs activesync.
I have made it work by keeping an eye on the phone screen and "cancelling" whenever the installation programme runs. Once we get into the ROM Dump, hopefully we'll be able to uncook this activesync installer and make this work properly!
John
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could you please tell me where you got that one, as i would like to test for myself a little bit...thanks
I got it from here:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueMassStorage.aspx
John
thaihugo said:
You probably don't need a rom cooking for that. Just try task manager v.3.1 from this forum, and go to service and device tab. One of them is your mass storage service ( be carefull, there is also a real storage service, which serves your SD and internal memory). Just stop it, and see how your program works.
If you don't know which one to stop, just post here the list of all running services, and I'll tell you what to try.
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Which service are you talking about? None of them seem to be labeled as mass storage...
I tried nueMassStorage on my Treo 800w and my PC would intermittently recognize it as a mass storage device, but the 800w does not have any ActiveSync installer. Still the PC would lose recognition of the Treo 800w as a mass storage device and get it back every minute or so.
But even when my PC could recognize my Treo 800w as a mass storage device, the speed of data transfer was exactly as slow as when connected via ActiveSync. There was no improvement in transfer speed at all. When using a MicroSDHC card reader data transfer goes very fast, especially with class 6 cards.
Every program I've used to turn my Treo 800w into a mass storage device may or may not work, but none improves transfer speed at all.
Perhaps the Treos are just slow?
I do miss Mass Storage since all my Sanyo's and BB Curve had it. Loaded up movies Hancock, The Dark Night, Zohan and more in just minutes with it on my Curve. My current 800 does not have it.
Is there a program from the TP that works on the 800?
amg212 said:
Which service are you talking about? None of them seem to be labeled as mass storage...
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This is why I'm asking for the list of services. I don't have a treo pro so I cannot help without somebody to be my eyes.
Services running
Here is a list of services running on my Treo Pro (as reported by SKTools):
HTCUSBToPC Service;Stopped;UTP0:
Power Service;Unknown;AP16:
WLMService;Stopped;WLM0:
Volume Service;Unknown;VOL0:
Carrier Configurator Service;Started;PKP0:
Customization Launcher Service;Started;PLS0:
VMCService;Started;VMC0:
KeyGuardUI Service;Started;KGU0:
Alternate Keys;Started;ALK0:
taskservice;Started;TMX0:
QuickGPS app service;Started;GUX0:
PartialDisplay_dll;Started;SDM0:
USSD;Started;APP8:
STK Service;Unknown;AP15:
App Service;Unknown;APP1:
GPS Daemon Service;Started;GPC1:
Bluetooth Audio Gateway;Started;BAG0:
Software Disable Dialog Service;Unknown;SDD0:
Sync Bluetooth Server;Started;ASB0:
Software Management service;Unknown;SWM0:
Certificate Enroll Engine;Stopped;CES0:
regextdev;Started;SNA0:
DPT;Started;DPT0:
LAS;Started;LAS0:
CredentialManager;Started;CRD0:
NOTIFY;Started;NFY0:
OBEX;Started;OBX0:
Bluetooth HID Loader;Started;BHL0:
sqmsvc;Started;SQM0:
Hope this helps,
John
Hey up check out the new version that supports the treo pro. Not tried it yet myself...
http://www.softick.com
This are the candidates to be stopped to see if mass storage works:
HTCUSBToPC Service;Stopped;UTP0:
WLMService;Stopped;WLM0:
Customization Launcher Service;Started;PLS0:
VMCService;Started;VMC0:
KeyGuardUI Service;Started;KGU0:
Alternate Keys;Started;ALK0:
taskservice;Started;TMX0:
App Service;Unknown;APP1:
Software Disable Dialog Service;Unknown;SDD0:
Software Management service;Unknown;SWM0:
you can try to stop each one an see how it goes
Try My Mobiler ... works well with Treo Pro.
Is the file transfer rate any better than just using ActiveSync?
amg212 said:
Is the file transfer rate any better than just using ActiveSync?
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I just gave it a shot.... I don't think there's any difference. I suspect what they did is not switch off the treo service, but simply make a virtual mass storage device and still send the data through the RNDIS protocol...
Has anyone else tried it yet?
Did this ever get figured out or is the Softick software the best bet. I just go a TP yesterday and my car radio plays music off of external hard drives so I would like this feature back. Info? Anyone???

Sending Files via WiFi

Hi.
I bought HD yesterday and its great but there are a few things that i cant do.
Is there any way to access the phone internall memory or SD card using wifi?
Ofcorse i can do it by usb but i have wifi networks at home, work, friends house and it would be much simpler to do it this way.
I succesfully connect to wlan and internet on phone works perfectly but cant find the way to transfer the files.
I tried typing IP adress of the device (ex: "\\192.168.1.4") like i would do to access another PC shared files but it wont work.
Never worked on WM before so its rather guesing than knowing how to do something but i assume that it is much alike normal win.
I just find out that i can browse my PC shared files using internet browser on HD but rather do it other way around (browsing on my PC files from HD and/or SD card.)
xelos86 said:
Hi.
I bought HD yesterday and its great but there are a few things that i cant do.
Is there any way to access the phone internall memory or SD card using wifi?
Ofcorse i can do it by usb but i have wifi networks at home, work, friends house and it would be much simpler to do it this way.
I succesfully connect to wlan and internet on phone works perfectly but cant find the way to transfer the files.
I tried typing IP adress of the device (ex: "\\192.168.1.4") like i would do to access another PC shared files but it wont work.
Never worked on WM before so its rather guesing than knowing how to do something but i assume that it is much alike normal win.
I just find out that i can browse my PC shared files using internet browser on HD but rather do it other way around (browsing on my PC files from HD and/or SD card.)
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as far as i know. windows mobile doesn't natively support sharing/server. so you would need to run a third party application on your phone which acts like a server. actvesync used to let you sync using wifi, but not anymore.
I use "Total Commander" it's free and will enable you to see other drives on your LAN. You can even use/view two windows on your HD to drag and drop from your LAN to the SD card.
Yes, I also use Total Commander, it also does FTP. Get it here
its not exactly what i had in mind but it works good enough and its so much better than using browser
thx guys
xelos86 said:
its not exactly what i had in mind but it works good enough and its so much better than using browser
thx guys
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yes, i believe the two above posts went a little tangent-didn't address your exact concern, but they are nice work around indeed. in that case, i offer my work around as well. I used Resco Explorer with FTP plug in, so you can transfer files to and fro.
Run a server like mochaFTP on your phone.
A simpler solution is not to use wifi at all, but to use bluetooth. Bluetooth 2.0 runs at about 100 kb/sec, which is not too bad for small file transfer and it integrates well with Windows.
See here for a tutorial: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1028
Surur
unfortunately (or i should say fortunately?) i dont have bluetooth in my PC.
its simpler but also worse solution because it would take almost 15h to transfer a 700MB movie file with this transfer :O
I'll stay with totalcomander solution. Its simple, fast and its using wifi conection which i have access to almost everywhere i go

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