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yes indeed! on the ground... brandddddd new. I mean not a scratch or scuff on it... so lucky.
But I am wondering a few things... first off what to do with it? I already have a Cingular 8525 (Hermes) and I do have Tmobile and live in America.
What is better about the Wing compared to the 8525? I heard there was a processor boost and more internal memory is this correct?
Also, how and where to get it unlocked? I travel to Europe periodically.
Mog said:
yes indeed! on the ground... brandddddd new. I mean not a scratch or scuff on it... so lucky.
But I am wondering a few things... first off what to do with it? I already have a Cingular 8525 (Hermes) and I do have Tmobile and live in America.
What is better about the Wing compared to the 8525? I heard there was a processor boost and more internal memory is this correct?
Also, how and where to get it unlocked? I travel to Europe periodically.
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One idea. Just bring it to the "Lost and Found Office" - you would be happy if oneother would do it.
Mog said:
yes indeed! on the ground... brandddddd new. I mean not a scratch or scuff on it... so lucky.
But I am wondering a few things... first off what to do with it?
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Return it for Pete's sake! TMO will have a record of the owner via the sim card
Do The Right Thing
What goes around comes around.......I say return it.
treo...not! said:
Return it for Pete's sake! TMO will have a record of the owner via the sim card
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They also record the IMEI with each call. Just an FYI. So, if it's reported stolen, it can (in theory) be barred from T-Mo's network.
Mi|enko said:
They also record the IMEI with each call. Just an FYI. So, if it's reported stolen, it can (in theory) be barred from T-Mo's network.
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And they will be able to see that your SIM is using it.
You "found" it?? Then return it!
No help from my side ...
What should I do? You're kidding right? Return the damn thing!!! Didn't your mutha teach youse better than that? I'm sure you can find the owner info on the device. You want a Wing... Buy a Wing!
Besides, you have T-Mobile?
Stick your sim card in it. 5 -4 -3 -2 -1....
Hello Mr. Finder-of-lost-Wings-yet-won't-return-them? The persons Wing you are using was murdered and being you have the persons phone, we is be gonna arrest youse butt!!!
If you lost your 8525 and I found it, would you want me to return it? If not, I'll PM you my address and you can mail it to me and pretend you lost it.
keep that ****! finders keepers, losers weepers
bigdookie said:
keep that ****! finders keepers, losers weepers
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Nice. Let's hope that you never have the misfortune of losing yours and having someone find it with that attitude.
I work for t-mobile... and they can track to see where an imei is being used, so they will find you, and what they will do is cut your service off if you are using it for too long... im just saying
What ever happened to that phone????? You may be able to find the guy in here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305139
bigdookie said:
keep that ****! finders keepers, losers weepers
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Like what are you, 12?
dkb218 said:
What should I do? You're kidding right? Return the damn thing!!! Didn't your mutha teach youse better than that? I'm sure you can find the owner info on the device. You want a Wing... Buy a Wing!
Besides, you have T-Mobile?
Stick your sim card in it. 5 -4 -3 -2 -1....
Hello Mr. Finder-of-lost-Wings-yet-won't-return-them? The persons Wing you are using was murdered and being you have the persons phone, we is be gonna arrest youse butt!!!
If you lost your 8525 and I found it, would you want me to return it? If not, I'll PM you my address and you can mail it to me and pretend you lost it.
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Obviously yours never tought you english.
I agree return it. The wing isn't cheap and if I lost mine i'd be very upset.
spanspace said:
Obviously yours never tought you english.
I agree return it. The wing isn't cheap and if I lost mine i'd be very upset.
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LOL. If you going to punk someone on their english you should atleast check yours first....lol
OMG!!!!! YOU FOUND IT!!!! I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR IT EVERYWHERE!!! PM me and I will give you my address. Oh Thank god I thought it was gone FOREVER!
LOL
Mog said:
yes indeed! on the ground... brandddddd new. I mean not a scratch or scuff on it... so lucky.
But I am wondering a few things... first off what to do with it? I already have a Cingular 8525 (Hermes) and I do have Tmobile and live in America.
What is better about the Wing compared to the 8525? I heard there was a processor boost and more internal memory is this correct?
Also, how and where to get it unlocked? I travel to Europe periodically.
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Man WTF?! The Hermes is way better compared to the Wing. The Wing has half the CPU (200 vs. 400). I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet since it was one of the questions the man asked. Why would you even WANT to keep it?
so what have you decdied to do?
Dude, check "owner info" and return it.
If anyone decided to keep my Wing when they could easily return it to me, I'd pour A-1 sauce down his pants and let my pit bull loose...
FYI...
I have researched the "IMEI tracking" issue at length with both Tmobile and ATT (formerly Crapular) and both sides have told me repeatedly (CR, managers and acct. reps) that they DO NOT blacklist IMEIs.
Also, they DO NOT have agreements with other providers around the world (or each other) to share each operator's blacklisted IMEIs.
I know UK providers share their lists, and Voda providers throughout the world share the Voda list.
When I asked about police involvement, I was told that there needs to be a court order for the IMEI tracking info to be released.
Now, that being said... I agree with all others. You should return it. There is plenty of info in a phone to figure out who it may belong to. Call records, SMS, emails, maybe a doc or two, owner info. Besides, if the person lost the phone they will report it lost, Tmobile will deactivate the SIM and at the subscriber's request activate a new one. If you just were to call that number (which would be found in the phone itself) then you will reach the owner.
Personally I have never lost a phone. Bricked one once but never lost. Quite frankly I would be pissed and angry. Very pissed and angry! And if someone was to return it, I would take them out for a very nice steak dinner. Being the phone nut that I am, money is really no object when it comes to something i've dedicated my spare time to for many years.
Well, you may take it as stupid and risky question, but I gotta ask this.
How can I change IMEI of my hermes?
In south korea, they start to provide wcdma based phone recently,
while they only provided CDMA phones, which they don't need SIM card.
Then people start to bring Hermes to my country and used it for a while.
However, god dam WCDMA carriers did not welcome foreign phones,
especially which has sophisticated pda function with wi-fi and phone,
cuz almost half of the profit was harvested from data connection fee and
selling MP3 and ringtones through mobile,
and it evidently will be harmful factor to allow PDA phone like Hermes for those carriers.
(they still sell crappy PDA phone for 500bucks,while ordinary 3G phone costs no money,
or they removed wi-fi function of most of the phone like Blackjack.)
Also, they don't allow using a sim card except a single designated phone,
they cannot swap each other's phone even in a carrier.
Anyway, we could use Hermes for several months, but they found out existance of foreign phone
and blocked it, by searching IMEI of all hermes in Korea(as far as I judge).
But guess what? Once they started do cheap cunning way, I wanna challenge this thing.
So, what I plan to do is....
1. Buy one of the free 3G phone
(Seriously, it's free without 24 month contract, while Blackjack costs 400 bucks).
2. Check IMEI of it.
3. copy that to my Hermes if you guyz give me a clue of way of doing it.
So.....is there anyone who can tell me how to modify my IMEI or any source that I can refer?
I'm sure it is not yet legislated in Korea, cuz it's been only a year to provide IMEI based phone.
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Well, you may take it as stupid and risky question, but I gotta ask this.
How can I change IMEI of my hermes?
In south korea, they start to provide wcdma based phone recently,
while they only provided CDMA phones, which they don't need SIM card.
Then people start to bring Hermes to my country and used it for a while.
However, god dam WCDMA carriers did not welcome foreign phones,
especially which has sophisticated pda function with wi-fi and phone,
cuz almost half of the profit was harvested from data connection fee and
selling MP3 and ringtones through mobile,
and it evidently will be harmful factor to allow PDA phone like Hermes for those carriers.
(they still sell crappy PDA phone for 500bucks,while ordinary 3G phone costs no money,
or they removed wi-fi function of most of the phone like Blackjack.)
Also, they don't allow using a sim card except a single designated phone,
they cannot swap each other's phone even in a carrier.
Anyway, we could use Hermes for several months, but they found out existance of foreign phone
and blocked it, by searching IMEI of all hermes in Korea(as far as I judge).
But guess what? Once they started do cheap cunning way, I wanna challenge this thing.
So, what I plan to do is....
1. Buy one of the free 3G phone
(Seriously, it's free without 24 month contract, while Blackjack costs 400 bucks).
2. Check IMEI of it.
3. copy that to my Hermes if you guyz give me a clue of way of doing it.
So.....is there anyone who can tell me how to modify my IMEI or any source that I can refer?
I'm sure it is not yet legislated in Korea, cuz it's been only a year to provide IMEI based phone.
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well...it's a big challenge...
and i also wanna know if anyone who has anyway to archieve this, anyone please?
livewirejj said:
Well, you may take it as stupid and risky question, but I gotta ask this.
How can I change IMEI of my hermes?
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Changing the IMEI number of any phone is illegal in most, if not all countries.
smads said:
Changing the IMEI number of any phone is illegal in most, if not all countries.
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But some wicked dealers is still changing IMEIs to cheat customer....
what about good old XDAmanipulator? can't that work?
as far as i know XDAmanipulator only ever worked with wallaby
and only with some radiostacks on wallaby even
and it required a real serial connection as in good old rs232
pretty sure rs232 is not even present in newer pda's connectors
i don't know the procedure. but even if i did know, I will not reveal it in the open coz "criminals" frequenting our ever popular forums will only get one more formula to tamper with phones!
and neither do i know u or the authenticity of ur story... please don't take me wrong!
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i don't know the procedure. but even if i did know, I will not reveal it in the open coz "criminals" frequenting our ever popular forums will only get one more formula to tamper with phones!
and neither do i know u or the authenticity of ur story... please don't take me wrong!
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Quite detail it was to prove sorta "authenticity," and the bigger premise that "No one can use Hermes in Korea!!" proves that nothing can be done in Korea other than messing up with IMEI, whether it's stolen or bought abroad.
Well, there are quite a lot Korean underground technitions who can mess up with ESN(IMEI of CDMA), but it's been only a year since they start to use GSM system in Korea, and HTC phone is not even imported in this country, as I said at the first post.
Anyhow...then is there any way I can contact with American underground techinitions?
Here's what u want.
You must DOWNGRADE your SPL to 1.11 and then use aWizard-V1_3beta2 to open RAPI and unlock CID.
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Step1
Install WST v4.2.1, Run "Wizard Service Tool"
(if you wanna MORE you can see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329170,this thread also include WST for u to download)
Step2
Get connected and click "Repair IMEI"
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isn't WST for wizards only?
It evidently shows it's for Wizard.
Did you try using it?
Well...
I've tried this method several times but didn't go through. Since all above tools are for Wizard and therefore RAPI unlocker doesn't work at all. Is there any "special" way to make it possible?
Using SPL2.1, did any thread show how to downgrade to 1.11?
thanks
smads said:
Changing the IMEI number of any phone is illegal in most, if not all countries.
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Why? Which laws are you talking about?
Huwawa said:
Why? Which laws are you talking about?
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You know whats funny tho? Half of the people on this board break the law everyday downloading music and movies. Then get touchy on this subject.
Its an ethical thing...
yeah, it's for the TI OMAP chip, which is nothing like the Hermes and won't work
Is it just me that finds his story somewhat implausible?
How would a network block a certain mobile device?
What about those who travel in the country and use theirs then? Will they block the sim... I don't think so.
Good luck with the IMEI changing....
Cheers
Huwawa said:
Why? Which laws are you talking about?
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In the UK it is covered by the Mobile Telephones (Re-programming) Act 2002. The link is here http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2002/ukpga_20020031_en_1
We do not have such a law in Slovakia.
So HOW do I change IMEI in HTC Artemis ???
GPSSlovakia said:
We do not have such a law in Slovakia.
So HOW do I change IMEI in HTC Artemis ???
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Either you don't full stop - OR you ask again in the Artemis forum
Question for htc evo owners with boost mobile here. How is it, are there any problems? Someone is selling a htc evo boost ready for 450 would that be a good deal. Thanks.
Well I believe that cricket's 55 android plan is the best out there . I paid only 270 form my evo and i flashed it for free. All the tools and know how is free and available on line. I would never spen 450 on phone.
I live in NY I don't think there is cricket here i also heard its hard getting your evo to boost so buying it boost ready would be the easy way.
i would find one with a bad esn for 200-250 and figure out how to flash it yourself.
So can you hook a brother up with instructions to flash an evo to boost?
KaDaMuS said:
So can you hook a brother up with instructions to flash an evo to boost?
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I do not believe it needs a "Flashing"
What it needs is an ESN change. You need to change the ESN to one that Boost will accept. Boost will not accept an EVO ID. You also will probably need a donor phone to get an ESN off of to be rather more legal.
The process for changing an android IMEI is not difficult, as I understand it.
Here is a question, do you have boost now?
when it is flashed to another carrier like that...
1. it is stolen
2. it is lost
3. sprint will not support it.
once you get it... there is NO warranty!
so.. I would never pay that much for it.
push it down to $250 or under!
you can do the flashing to other carriers yourself.
or
find a shop that is a boost/cricket/(what ever carrier).. they will do it for free.. because they want your business!!!
good luck.
Dan330 said:
when it is flashed to another carrier like that...
1. it is stolen
2. it is lost
3. sprint will not support it.
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1. B.S.
2. B.S.
3 Who cares! you got an HTC warranty, and XDA.
LargePrime said:
I do not believe it needs a "Flashing"
What it needs is an ESN change. You need to change the ESN to one that Boost will accept. Boost will not accept an EVO ID. You also will probably need a donor phone to get an ESN off of to be rather more legal.
The process for changing an android IMEI is not difficult, as I understand it.
Here is a question, do you have boost now?
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No I do not have boost right now. Im planning on getting boost but i didnt know if i should get their phone and then go from there. But if i have to get their phone and take the ESN from it then i will. Do i have to get a certain phone or can i get the cheapest thing they have ?
Dan330 said:
when it is flashed to another carrier like that...
1. it is stolen
2. it is lost
3. sprint will not support it.
once you get it... there is NO warranty!
so.. I would never pay that much for it.
push it down to $250 or under!
you can do the flashing to other carriers yourself.
or
find a shop that is a boost/cricket/(what ever carrier).. they will do it for free.. because they want your business!!!
good luck.
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BTW. my phone is not stolen... I paid $250 for this thing, with a new contract. Im done with sprint now. All I want is to get a cheaper plan with the same service -4g
KaDaMuS said:
BTW. my phone is not stolen... I paid $250 for this thing, with a new contract. Im done with sprint now. All I want is to get a cheaper plan with the same service -4g
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of course.. if you purchased it from sprint.... it aint stolen.
I was talking about phones that are for sale that have been flashed to other carriers.
you can sell it for more .. when advertised with sprint.
can buy it cheaper when flashed for other carriers..
2 + 2 = phone was lost or stolen.
let us know.. how the service is on the EVO.. i am sure others would like to know. Many are looking to jump.
LargePrime said:
1. B.S.
2. B.S.
3 Who cares! you got an HTC warranty, and XDA.
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ok.. sure..
if the phone ... is a good ESN.. not stolen.. or found EVO.
why not sell it for more as a Sprint ready phone???
EVO's on other carriers .. listed on craigslist .. go for half of what they are on sprint.
if i wanted to sell my EVO. that I purchased from sprint.. and have the reciept. I can get $350 or more... why would I want to sell it for $200 or less?
if Sprint marks the ESN on that phone as a stolen / lost device. I dont think HTC will fix it and then send it back to you. They might even keep the phone for refurbished inventory. This I am not sure of... but I would think it a long shot! Manufactures love any excuse to not provide warranty!
anybody got a guide to how to put an evo on boost? i got a guy that may want my evo next month but he wants it on boost.
http://tinyurl.com/4tqo4vq
Hi guys, I have my evo on Boostmobile. I got the evo from a friend, he sold it to me for 300 brand new never used before. and since I didnt know how to flash it or change the esn I had to pay 60 bucks in a store to get it connect it on boost.
Can someone help me with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925112
Dan330 said:
why not sell it for more as a Sprint ready phone???
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So if something is cheaper it is stolen? So whenever the grocery store has a sale, they just got a shipment of stolen food?
I don't see flashed phones as cheaper. Can you show me that?
Dan330 said:
EVO's on other carriers .. listed on craigslist .. go for half of what they are on sprint.
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Lets just assume that is true. (I don't think it is.)
1) no 4g, so slower data.
2) bad ESN. Someone cannot keep up the payments and has to sell the phone to pay bills.
Dan330 said:
if Sprint marks the ESN on that phone as a stolen / lost device. I dont think HTC will fix it and then send it back to you.
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Sure they will. HTC does not know.
Guide for EVO
Dan330 said:
EVO's on other carriers .. listed on craigslist .. go for half of what they are on sprint.
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Could be
LargePrime said:
So if something is cheaper it is stolen? So whenever the grocery store has a sale, they just got a shipment of stolen food?
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that is just plain silly analogy...
Something that is not right/stolen/broken/hot has to be discounted!!!
LargePrime said:
I don't see flashed phones as cheaper. Can you show me
that?Lets just assume that is true. (I don't think it is.)
1) no 4g, so slower data.
2) bad ESN. Someone cannot keep up the payments and has to sell the phone to pay bills.Sure they will. HTC does not know.
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Good ESN:
http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/mob/2176503432.html
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mob/2175143480.html
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mob/2175138918.html
ESN issues: (billing issues... sure.. does sound better than stolen; do you think anyone will say it was stolen???) but here are examples. I bet you these sellers, are willing to deal.. drop the price to $150 -$175.
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mob/2175763022.html
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mob/2175899036.html
on the htc fixing "bad ESN" phones... like I said.. I just dont know.. never tried. But I would not bet $200 on it.
This is entirely OFF TOPIC
Your trying to prove a prejudice.
I already said that The ESN's are bad so you cannot get 4g. big discount in a 4g area.
It is just as reasonable that people in economic hardship are looking to sell things cheaper and faster. They are in a weaker position.
Selling a stolen phone on craigslist is asking to get busted.
On Topic...
Did the guide work for you OP
flashing evo to boost
does anyone know how to flash an evo to boost? i would really apreciated if anyone can guide me or teach me how to do this. please, please!
The reign of my HD2 is over.....I loved this phone....all the rom testing and such, are now memories/knowledge
Well......was my birthday weekend and maybe went a little overboard.
I lost my HD2
But already within the few months i've had it...I already cracked the screen, and thankfully I didn't send it in to get the screen repaired...because now i've lost it.
I think I am going to try and get an Incredible S (ohhhh, ahh) now....
This time, I will be getting screen protectors, cases, GPS tracking app....because I can't spend..er..waste this much money again for another phone!! lol :-(
matrx10503 said:
The reign of my HD2 is over.....I loved this phone....all the rom testing and such, are now memories/knowledge
Well......was my birthday weekend and maybe went a little overboard.
I lost my HD2
But already within the few months i've had it...I already cracked the screen, and thankfully I didn't send it in to get the screen repaired...because now i've lost it.
I think I am going to try and get an Incredible S (ohhhh, ahh) now....
This time, I will be getting screen protectors, cases, GPS tracking app....because I can't spend..er..waste this much money again for another phone!! lol :-(
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You didn't have lookout installed on your Android ROM by any chance did you?
I tried remote install Plan B......but just my luck my battery was dead :-/
if you still have the box or you know the imei, better call your network provider / customer service. you can have the phone locked / blocked from ever being used. tke note that the network provider may not necessarily be the one to lock your phone. at least that's how it is here in melbourne. i had to call a different number / customer service to request for my imei to be blocked when i lost my touch pro 2. cheers
Robson said:
if you still have the box or you know the imei, better call your network provider / customer service. you can have the phone locked / blocked from ever being used. tke note that the network provider may not necessarily be the one to lock your phone. at least that's how it is here in melbourne. i had to call a different number / customer service to request for my imei to be blocked when i lost my touch pro 2. cheers
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They don't block IMEI numbers in the US.
As sort of "bait".....I have left the phone on and I have been monitoring the usage. The phone has not been used at all.
My general thinking was I wanted someone to find the phone and turn it on, so Plan B could install and push me the location.
I honestly believe....if it has/had been found....because it was dead and cracked, the person probably threw it away thinking it had been run over by car or something and "doesn't work" by the appearance
orangekid said:
They don't block IMEI numbers in the US.
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ah, really? didn't know that, thanks mate. just out of curiousity and pardon my ignorance, why can't imei be blocked in the us? does it have to do with the carriers themselves? cheers
if you have give nthe comand to remote install plan b then ass soon as someone turns on your ophone(if by chance) you can get the location
matrx10503 said:
As sort of "bait".....I have left the phone on and I have been monitoring the usage. The phone has not been used at all.
My general thinking was I wanted someone to find the phone and turn it on, so Plan B could install and push me the location.
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siddharth singh said:
if you have give nthe comand to remote install plan b then ass soon as someone turns on your ophone(if by chance) you can get the location
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..........
Well...I just ordered an Inspire 4G.....Not exactly the Incredible S I wanted, I still want it....but probably not wise since a billion phones will be coming out, with dual core and all that
But I really don't care about the hype of the new phones that will be coming out soon.....my HD2 was good enough for me
The phone is STILL yet to be used.....so either thrown away or left in a car under seat or something. IDK IDK IDK
So I guess im off to learning a new phone..:-/..all the quirks, installation steps, roms, etc. for the Inspire
Doesn't matter, as long as it's something you want. Dual core isn't everyone's cup of tea anyways. Plus they're hell of expensive, enough to buy you a capable/good lappy. Have fun with your new phone. :3
orangekid said:
They don't block IMEI numbers in the US.
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T-Mobile is starting this feature in June, from what I have read.
Hey guys im a newb and was wondering if i can flash my bad esn x play to metro pcs? I cant afford Verizon anymore so they gave me a bad esn and metro has the 40$ unlimited everything
So if you guys can help me out this is much appreciated i love this phone and don't want to give it away yet.
Just get your sim unlocked and change the APN settings
Edit: unsure if a bad esn can be fixed by unlocking.. You'll have to ask someone who deals with sim unlocks
Sent from my R800
rawrrzombie12 said:
Hey guys im a newb and was wondering if i can flash my bad esn x play to metro pcs? I cant afford Verizon anymore so they gave me a bad esn and metro has the 40$ unlimited everything
So if you guys can help me out this is much appreciated i love this phone and don't want to give it away yet.
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The only reason your phone will have a bad ESN is if either it's stolen or you haven't paid your bill, either way the phone is not yours. Thats why your carrier has blacklisted the ESN. Basically you are asking people to help you steal the phone.
you would have to change ESN which is... well, quite impossible...
Send frm my Play with coustum kernals
AndroHero said:
The only reason your phone will have a bad ESN is if either it's stolen or you haven't paid your bill, either way the phone is not yours. Thats why your carrier has blacklisted the ESN. Basically you are asking people to help you steal the phone.
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i didn't steal the phone i couldn't afford the plan i was one so they cut my phone off that's what i meant. i guess ill just take it and see if it will work
rawrrzombie12 said:
i didn't steal the phone i couldn't afford the plan i was one so they cut my phone off that's what i meant. i guess ill just take it and see if it will work
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The problem is you said in your post twice, they gave you a bad ESN. Well what did you mean by that, because the only reason they would do that is if you owe them money. Or were you just mistaken? If you go elsewhere with a "bad" or blocked ESN its not going to work.
Rogue Leader said:
The problem is you said in your post twice, they gave you a bad ESN. Well what did you mean by that, because the only reason they would do that is if you owe them money. Or were you just mistaken? If you go elsewhere with a "bad" or blocked ESN its not going to work.
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Doesn't mean he stole it. Could have been locked into a bad contract
Some people like myself buy them off ebay with bad esn
What happens is all these reneged accounts are lying around eligible for upgrades
some one will come in and get all the brand new phones unopened and sell them online for big profit.
It's 100% your property if you buy it from a 3rd party.
The bad ESN part is bad because then all the towers will block your phone
so you cant use 40$ pre-pay service because they are leasing the towers from big company like verizon and such
Rogue Leader said:
The problem is you said in your post twice, they gave you a bad ESN. Well what did you mean by that, because the only reason they would do that is if you owe them money. Or were you just mistaken? If you go elsewhere with a "bad" or blocked ESN its not going to work.
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You can flash any phone with a bad esn to another provider, if you have the proper software.
captain67 said:
Just get your sim unlocked and change the APN settings
Edit: unsure if a bad esn can be fixed by unlocking.. You'll have to ask someone who deals with sim unlocks
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AndroHero said:
The only reason your phone will have a bad ESN is if either it's stolen or you haven't paid your bill, either way the phone is not yours. Thats why your carrier has blacklisted the ESN. Basically you are asking people to help you steal the phone.
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Blagus said:
you would have to change ESN which is... well, quite impossible...
Send frm my Play with coustum kernals
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Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. READ people. SIM card on CDMA? Why list the reason when he told you the reason out-right (can't afford it; obviously under contract)? "Impossible" to do something which is done every day? Jeeze. If you don't know the answer or what you are talking about WHY do you feel compelled to answer the man?
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Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. READ people. SIM card on CDMA? Why list the reason when he told you the reason out-right (can't afford it; obviously under contract)? "Impossible" to do something which is done every day? Jeeze. If you don't know the answer or what you are talking about WHY do you feel compelled to answer the man?
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Exactly "can't afford verizon" that means he didnt pay the bill, so the phone was cut off, he does not own the phone because he invalidated his contract, and thus the phone is stolen.
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AndroHero said:
Exactly "can't afford verizon" that means he didnt pay the bill, so the phone was cut off, he does not own the phone because he invalidated his contract, and thus the phone is stolen.
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I don't know how things are done there, but actually that's technically and legally wrong here in the USA. The phone is rebated and paid for at the time the contract is signed. The SERVICE CONTRACT is the only remaining obligation. The contract comes with terms and stipulations stating that they will require payment of an ETF (Early Termination Fee) if he does not carry the contract to full term and that they will ban the ESN if he does not pay that. It does not state that the phone remains or reverts to being their property.
For consumer protections reasons, there are other "outs" in the contract and you are not required to send the phone back because it is YOURS nor are you required to pay ETFs. For example, the FCC does not want local monopolies to keep you living in an area they serve just because you have a contract with a provider there that doesn't exist elsewhere. For example, if I wanted to move to North Dakota and there was no Sprint coverage in the town I was moving to, I can move there and keep my phone and end my contract and legally dodge the ETF. If I ever activate it with that provider again, they can require me to resume my contract.
Simple.
CZroe said:
I don't know how things are done there, but actually that's technically and legally wrong here in the USA. The phone is rebated at the time the contract is signed. The SERVICE CONTRACT is the only remaining obligation. The contract comes with terms and stipulations stating that they will require payment of an ETF (Early Termination Fee) if he does not carry the contract to full term and that they will ban the ESN if he does not pay that. It does not state that the phone remains or reverts to being their property.
For consumer protections reasons, there are other "outs" in the contract and you are not required to send the phone back because it is YOURS. For example, the FCC does not want local monopolies to keep you living in an area they server just because you have a contract with a provider there that doesn't exist elsewhere. For example, if I wanted to move to North Dakota and there was no Sprint coverage in the town I was moving to, I can move there and keep my phone and end my contract and legally dodge the ETF. If I ever activate it with that provider again, they can require me to resume my contract.
Simple.
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Hooray America! (another example of an it is you can suspend/cancel your contact without an ETF if you getting deployed overseas (military))
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Flipping through the thread and damn some people are f ing unbelievable. Your really going to call the guys phone stolen because he couldnt pay the bill? Are you kidding me? Pretty sure the 250 dollar early termination fee that will be tacked on to a final bill will pretty much cover the cost of the phone.. Its amazing how people can be so argumentative for no reason. The guy had a simple question, he didnt ask for a moral judgement. The answer to your question is YES you can have it flashed to metro.
AndroHero said:
Exactly "can't afford verizon" that means he didnt pay the bill, so the phone was cut off, he does not own the phone because he invalidated his contract, and thus the phone is stolen.
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Why did you even waste energy and burn a single calorie to type on this thread if you weren't going to contribute to the question asked. I'm sick of arse holes that want to play phone police on an internet forum. You don't know if he paid his termination fee or made conditions with Verizon. Personally I think its none of your business or any body else. So the point of the matter is Metro hooks up a lot of phones from other carriers such as Verizon legally in the US. Trust me America being the forefront of lawsuits would have sued the breaks off of Metro PCS if it wasn't. Do not post if you don't have anything intelectual or contributing please.
R800x Carrier Pigeon - Got any change?
Before I get into the nitty gritty, yes, ive seached the forum. yes ive seached the google. yes, afaik im using the right software (cdma-w, qpst, QXDM, even that dfs cdma tool).
The Xperia Play (R800x - Verizon) is an amazing phone first of all. If only it could make calls...
Here is the problem im having: I can write min, nam, PRL, etc, most NV items to the phone just fine. but when i try to repair the esn/meid i get back an error which, though slightly different depending on the software, amounts to a statement that the value is read-only or failed to write. I have some past success with this sort of thing on other platforms (Moto Razr for ex.)but im at a loss here, and ready to accept any help offered. I read somewhere that an unlocked BL is req. but that doesnt make sense to me.
Also ive noticed that the older version of cdmaw (2.7) doesn't seem to read or write meid values, only esn, from what ive read, its like frank sinatra said, you cant have one without the other.
So my questions: has anyone else run into this problem? Is it related to the bootloader or ROM in any way? Suggestions etc Please and Thank you
Yes im a n00b. yes im ok with that. there is always some1 who knows more about something than I do. Teach me to fish so i can share my fish
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Before I get into the nitty gritty, yes, ive seached the forum. yes ive seached the google. (btw, the flash-to-MetroPCS page seems to have vanished from the internets..)yes, afaik im using the right software (cdma-w, qpst, QXDM, even that dfs cdma tool).
The Xperia Play (R800x - V3r1$0N) is an amazing phone first of all. If only it could make calls...
With every intention of avoiding starting a legal debate, here is the problem im having: I can write min, nam, PRL, etc, most NV items to the phone just fine. but when i try to .repair. the 3$n or M31D i get back an error which, though slightly different depending on the software, amounts to a statement that the value is read-only or failed to write. i may have some past success with this sort of thing on other platforms (Moto Razr for ex.)-allegedly, and im by no means stumped or ready to give up, but im ready to accept any help offered. I read somewhere that an unlocked BL is req. but that doesnt make sense to me.
Also ive noticed that the older version of cdmaw (2.7) which may or may not be available from the common sources, doesn't seem to read or write m31d values, only 3$n, from what ive read, its like frank sinatra said, you cant have one without the other.
So my questions: has anyone else run into this problem? Is it related to the bootloader or ROM in any way? Suggestions etc Please and Thank you
Yes im a n00b. yes im ok with that. there is always some1 who knows more about something than I do. Teach me to fish
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Couple things:
1. "hacker speak" like saying 3$n and m31D is tremendously annoying. I have no idea why you felt the need to do that. Actual intelligent humans like you will find here think you sound like an idiot when you type like that. Speak English, its what we speak.
2. I don't believe anyone has successfully done with this phone what you're trying to do AFAIK. There are people who can unlock the bootloader for you, but I agree I doubt that would help, but hey who knows.
3. That said, you threw gas on the fire even mentioning legal issues. I'm not gonna make any assumptions about why you have a bad ESN phone a I don't know where you got it, but as you can see its a touchy subject here. Mainly because carriers don't just blacklist ESNs for no reason or on a whim.
Anyway whatever your reasons, good luck, I don't know that you will find an answer here, but maybe someone who does know can help you.
Touchy subject
My Esn is clear, but i already have service with another cdma provider- one who has very limited choices as far as phones go. I have no intention of trying to rip off my carrier for my data use or anything like that, i just want to make calls on my current network, using my R800x.
I wrote 3$n because some places will delete your post or even ban you just for mentioning the word, which is silly since all we're trying to do is exchange some theoretical knowledge.
Anyway thanks for your response RogueLeader.
freddycheeba said:
My Esn is clear, but i already have service with another cdma provider- one who has very limited choices as far as phones go. I have no intention of trying to rip off my carrier for my data use or anything like that, i just want to make calls on my current network, using my R800x.
I wrote 3$n because some places will delete your post or even ban you just for mentioning the word, which is silly since all we're trying to do is exchange some theoretical knowledge.
Anyway thanks for your response RogueLeader.
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So your carrier just plain won't accept your Xperia Play's ESN, so you're trying to swap on one from another phone? Good plan, but like I said it seems like something thats not likely possible (or hey maybe it is and just no one's done it yet). I'd be interested to hear if this works out. Also pretty ridiculous if its true that they just won't take it, but then again Verizon won't accept non Verizon cdma phones as far as I know, but we expect them to suck.
As for this place its pretty heavily monitored, so if your post goes somewhere they don't want, it doesn't matter what words you use they will delete it for you ..
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Bad esn for whatever reason, it's still a bad esn. Metro does have the power and tools to flash SOME phones to their network. BUT a lot of these phones will not be fully functional, whether it's the internet or mms, etc. but here's the thing, we here are not metro pcs, we are consumers, ask metro, if they don't have an answer we will more than likely not have one either.
you will just piss some people off with your poor search and investigative skills.
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