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Wifi speeds?

I'm wondering what kind of wifi speeds are you getting out of your prophet?
I can't seem to get more than 11 mbps, although I have not done any tweaking either on access point or on the prophet. Anybody getting higher (and how?)?
You can check the speed of your connection in Settings>WLAN>Main> (look at tx rate)

When I had a 802.11B router I was getting 11mps on my Prophet. Recently I upgraded to an 802.11G router and set it to G only and now when I look at the tx rate it says "auto". So I really have no idea what my transfer rate is although I can confirm that it appears to be running about twice as fast when copying files off the network and streaming video is miles better.

When you say "video streaming" do you refer to viewing videos from the pc on your network, or internet streaming videos?
I haven't tried either, but would be interested in your insight.

krale said:
When you say "video streaming" do you refer to viewing videos from the pc on your network, or internet streaming videos?
I haven't tried either, but would be interested in your insight.
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Yes I mean viewing videos streamed from my pc to my Prophet via my wifi network. I used a DVD to Pocket PC ripper (I can't remember it's name offhand) and rip my entire DVD collection at the highest setting and save them all to my PC. I can then watch the movies on my Prophet via wifi and it doesn't seem to want to buffer at all. This saves me having to use up space on my SD card. Also at night when I'm in bed it's a fantastic way to catch up on all those gory action films that my wife doesn't want to watch (Kill Bill etc) not to mention at 6am when my 3yr old comes rampaging into the room and climbing on the bed I can put on the Wiggles or similar and hey presto I get another half an hour sleep

I set my router to G only mode and saw that I was getting 24 mbps with my Prophet, I don't know if that is the max or not. I have since changed my router back to b,g auto because the range in G only is fine for in the house, but for long distance B is better.

Thanks guys, that's helpful.
So is it fair to assume that if the router is positioned on auto (b/g) you will get only 11Mbps, and if you set it higher, you may achieve higher speeds?
I mean, my router is set on auto, and I have no way of setting it to g-only, so I am wondering if a new router would improve speeds....
Thanks for your input.

One more thing, How do you guys do that streaming thing? I mean I have a program which lets me see my shared folders on the PC over wifi, and I can open documents easily over the network. But whenever I click an mp3, or (god-forbid) video file, Windows Media either blocks, or says something like 'no parameter'...
What am I doing wrong?

Sorry for my tardy response (you may have already worked this out) but streaming movies with TCPMP rather than Windows Media is the bettter option. So long as you have your network set up (ie. can browse to shared folders on you pc) then it's just a case of within TCPMP "open file" and browsing to the shared area you have on your network that contains your movies .... and play. Likewise for MP3s.
For some reason I cannot get it working the same using Windows Media .... which does not bother me at all because I prefer TCPMP.
Hope this helps ... you you need any more info just ask ... I'll try to be a bit swifter this time

Hey thanks a lot for the answer. I had already tried with TCMPC player and streaming worked splendid... No probs at all...
My only worry for the prophet now is battery time...

krale said:
One more thing, How do you guys do that streaming thing? I mean I have a program which lets me see my shared folders on the PC over wifi, and I can open documents easily over the network. But whenever I click an mp3, or (god-forbid) video file, Windows Media either blocks, or says something like 'no parameter'...
What am I doing wrong?
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You might possibly get a faster through put with G only, but in theory with auto mode it should switch to B mode only when the signal is very weak. I switched my router to G only mode just to verify that my Prophet was capable of G speeds.

Streaming Audio keeps dropping out

Hi All,
I have been trying all day to get streaming audio (Shoutcast) to work using various programs (GSPlayer, MortPlayer, Conduits Pocket Player), and all with the same result.
Using a 32 kbs stream to test, the stream consistently drops out after about 3.5 minutes of playing, and has to rebuffer all over again from scratch. This happened with every program I've tested. I wasn't able to test TCPMP, because every time I try to open a .pls file with that program, I get a "Could not open URL" message.
Also, my internet connection is set up to use a proxy server. I don't know if that makes a difference, since I am able to play the stream in the first place.
I am doing these tests at my house where I have a 4-bar EDGE connection, so I know that the signal strength is not (or should not be) an issue here.
Is it possible that, while streaming, the main memory gets filled up with the streaming audio file? I don't yet have a mini SD card (plan to get one soon). I don't know if that would make a difference. Even if it would, maybe there is a registry setting that would force the streaming audio program to cache temp stuff to the SD card instead of main memory (?)
If anyone reading this uses streaming audio on their Wizard using a GPRS/EDGE connection, what program you are using, and also what settings/tweaks have you made which might help me?
Thanks!

Sounds like the proxy to me. Using Tmobile? I believe if you use the cheap plan with the proxy settings, it restricts the maximum amount of data per session.

Yes, I do have T-Mobile and also the cheaper plan that uses a proxy. *sigh* ... Ah well, I can always put the .pls track on "repeat" so that it rebuffers automatically after its 3.5 minutes are up. This is using a 32 kbs stream, so that means with a higher quality (96 kbs) I only would get about 1.5 minutes or so before it drops out. After many tests using many different streams, the amount of time before a dropout seems to be pretty consistent based on the stream quality.
Just curious though, you said that the maximum amount of data "per session" is limited, yet I do not have to reconnect the GPRS/EDGE when the streaming audio drops out, I only have to rebuffer the stream. (?)

i have the exact same problem. but im using their 29.99 plan and im not even using a proxy. i get 4 bars of edge. but when i stream shoutcasts on gsplayer, the connection drops repeatedly and has to buffer all over again. its really annoying. hope anyone has a solution to this. i hate staying in one place around a wifi connection to stream radio. i want it to work everywhere i go. does this happen on 3g networks by any chance? T-mobile here in the u.s need to hurry up with their 3g networks.

same problem here trying to use PocketXM and WMP on Cingular Edge with the unlimited plan. under 5 min of stream before it has to re-buffer. it really makes the streaming worthless (does it to video too) if someone knows how to fix this, ill write you a nice thank you card!

How to stream Real' files?

Has anyone found a way to stream Radio' station that broadcast .rm or .ram' files?
I installed the Real Player for PPC, but it won't work.

Hi Prerna,
I've installed RealPlayer too and can stream radio from the BBC ok over both GPRS, WiFi and ActiveSync passthrough.
try this http://www.real.com/R/RC.010604r1mo...alone/mobile1.html?rppr=&src=010604r1mobile_1
or http://www.real.com/realmobile/download.html
Gav.

GavinN said:
Hi Prerna,
I've installed RealPlayer too and can stream radio from the BBC ok over both GPRS, WiFi and ActiveSync passthrough.
try this http://www.real.com/R/RC.010604r1mo...alone/mobile1.html?rppr=&src=010604r1mobile_1
or http://www.real.com/realmobile/download.html
Gav.
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I've tried both these versions and simply get cannot connect to server errors.
Got any ideas? I really want to get radio streaming working so I can listen at work!

Have you tried doing this over GPRS? This will stop any traffic being blocked by a proxy.
Gav.

I can stream Radio One, Five Live and Five Live Extra on my Vario II through my WiFi Broadband connection easily.
I cannot however listen through a GPRS connection. It always comes back with a 'Failed to connect to Server' error. I put it down to T-Mobile's restrictions on Web n' Walk - i.e. It should not be used for streaming audio/video (in the T&C's). Either that or GPRS is too slow for streaming (possible, but not likely).

Just been scouting around this forum and the internet in general. Looks like it might not be possible with Real over GPRS - Due to Firewall issues with GPRS network providers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=254890&highlight=stream+real+gprs
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=344&more=1

Possibly right,
I tried with Orange and didn't get through to the Radio1 real stream.
Gav.

g00nerz said:
I can stream Radio One, Five Live and Five Live Extra on my Vario II through my WiFi Broadband connection easily.
I cannot however listen through a GPRS connection. It always comes back with a 'Failed to connect to Server' error. I put it down to T-Mobile's restrictions on Web n' Walk - i.e. It should not be used for streaming audio/video (in the T&C's). Either that or GPRS is too slow for streaming (possible, but not likely).
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How do you stream Five Live? Is it available for T-Mobile in The Netherlands?
Anita

kiwi23 said:
How do you stream Five Live? Is it available for T-Mobile in The Netherlands?
Anita
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Sometimes my fingers are quicker than my brain.
I surfed to www.radio4pda.com
Anita

This is in another thread but try orb.com. Can watch TV, hundreds of radio stations (including all BBC ones), view photos, view video, play music from your home/work PC etc etc.
It's great!

Streaming problems with ORB & WM10

Hi,
Is anyone successfully using ORB (www.orb.com) and streaming either video content or live TV to their TyTN?
I can stream perfectly but even in full screen landscape mode the picture is still only about the size of a postage stamp in the center of the screen with the rest of the screen black
I have heard of some people using TCPMP from coreplayer, however this is even worse as the screen (and sometimes the entire phone) just freezes within about 2 seconds of the stream starting. Another problem with TCPMP seems to be that it sometimes asks me if I want to overwrite the live.wmv file which suggests that it is downloading it instead of streaming it
Anyway, I'd much rather have it working in WM10 if only the screen would resize it properly.
Another problem is that I can't stream from my WiFi connection, even at home if I want to stream video I have to use GPRS because I get an error on WiFi (using WM10).
Thanks,
Mark

I use Orb very regularly. I use it with WMP10 on my Tytn and I do not experience the problem that you mention.
The only advice I can offer is that perhaps the the downsizing happens automatically as a result of your network speed. You'll notice that when you log into Orb, the very first thing is does is perform a speed test of the network. It is highly likely the result of that test dictates the resolution and bitrate of video that it streams to your device. I get it full screen with no problem. I'm on Cingular's UMTS in the US. Check that speed test and see what speeds it is getting.
As far as the Wi-Fi goes, I wish I could help you. I can also stream with no problems over Wi-fi. At least you know it's not a limitation of Orb or your device.

After reading your comments I decided to trick Orb into thinking that I was on a fast connection.
I loaded the Orb webpage and did the speedtest using wifi, then turned wifi off and started streaming some live TV...
You're right, it played in full screen
Now if only I could set up my wifi to stream rather than just browse then I'd be sorted!
Thanks,
Mark

Check all your Wi-Fi settings because it doesn't seem to make sense that you can stream over radio but not Wi-Fi. Make sure that the Wi-Fi connection you link up to is set to connect to whatever your main internet connection is on your phone. Also check the router (if you're trying this at home with a wireless router) and make sure your router isn't blocking anything, although when I installed Orb, it configured itself to go through my router without needing any manual input from me, which was nice

although when I installed Orb, it configured itself to go through my router without needing any manual input from me, which was nice
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Well my Dlink DI-524 isn't quite so helpfull
I've traced the problem to my router, and I can now stream by manually assigning an IP address to the TyTN (as opposed to DCHP) and then putting that IP into the routers DMZ (demilitarised zone).
I'm not sure how safe it is doing that but at least it works now
Mark

Orb anyone?

I haven't found anything on here for Orb. Doesn't anyone use it? It is so useful on winmo (specially the diamond with only 4 gb of internal storage) and it would be even better on the G1.
Supposedly orb says it works, can anyone here get it to work on 3G? It works if you are connected to your own personal wifi, but when you connect to someone elses (or 3G) you get an error.

Are you using the orb website?
And is your computer open on the right ports?

I am going through orb.com on my g1. I never changed anything on my computer. It was working fine with my sprint diamond, and even worked somewhat OK with my sprint instinct, but not with this g1 I can't get anything to stream via 3G.
Have no idea about ports and stuff. I know that orb gave a link to some sort of complicated thread about changing stuff, I didn't want to get all technical until I find out that is the only method.
I tried changing formats and speeds but nuttin.

It may be the new t-mobile settings they are now redirecting images on the data connections to compress them... maybe for audio too?

I am able to browse my orb page, but when I try to stream video I am unable to open the feed with anything. It worked great with my tilt even t-mobile's edge. If somebody is watching tv using orb on their g1, give everyone some idea as to how you are using it. What type of feed are you using there are a few, I figure it has to be one of the 3 .3gp streams. Will play with it again when I get home.
Thanks,
Manny

It's probably a problem with not forwarding ports. I'll look into it.

I have it working on my setup... I am using Video Player and that is what picked up the movie...
Also audio plays as well going through the music player.
I am not seeing any issues I suspect they are with your computer or internet connection. I have my computer set up in a way that allows all ports to be forwarded in and out... This is part of my speciality so of course I know exactly what I am doing so I can do it but I don't suggest everyone to do it.
The other thing is if your connections up speed (smaller of two numbers normally) is low you will have issues. Because of the 3G being faster than edge it may have issues. I would suggest checking issues with your network speed while on the orb page.

What is the stream type? Flash? WMV...what? The video player launches on mine but it states the format is not supported. Can someone look into their Settings and post results? Thanks.

Its great over wifi. Doesn't stream videos well over 3G. Audio is fine though.

neoobs said:
I have my computer set up in a way that allows all ports to be forwarded in and out... This is part of my speciality so of course I know exactly what I am doing so I can do it but I don't suggest everyone to do it.
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Your speciality? I didn't know that 30 seconds in a router took that much skill...

I have it set up a little differently LOL not just your normal NAT or DMZ style, I actually have a business line to my house for my job and I keep my work computer and my personal computer on seperate networks and the server has a seperate IP as well that is connected to both networks. Like I said I know what I am doing been in the business for quite some time and this is what I do for a living. I don't have any firewalls on the server it is completely open... but I don't think you will be getting in any time soon HEHE.
On the codec side... I have to check other videos to see if they work because the video I streamed was meant to play on the G1... but the codec is 3gp-aac/rtsp format
All videos work at that codec... makes it easier to watch videos now LOL

Mine works pretty well over wifi and network. I think what had happened to me was when I first tried testing it there wasn't a video app yet and I didn't bother to try it again until now. Back when I first got the phone. 3gp-aac/rtsp stream works for me, every once in a while it does tell me it can't play a video, but if I restart the stream it work.

I can connect and get my picture and music files but I can't get video or TV...I'm thinking it has to be something with the stream settings because I have a video that plays off my SD card but wont play when I try connecting through orb to same video file on my computer. What speed do you recommend? Can we stream TV at this point or is that out because of limited file formats?

Orb working for me
Orb is working just fine for me. Audio, video, everything. The only issue I have is when my phone switches from 3g to edge at work, it comes up and says that I can't play the video. I then restart from the same point, and it works fine. I just had to forward my ports.

port forwarding huh? Mind posting a link to for a step by step?

Port Forwarding Instructions
http://support.orb.com/kb/entry/121

www.portforward.com

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but I don't think you will be getting in any time soon HEHE.
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How exactly would you stop 0day exploits without a firewall? Or do you just pretend those don't exist... ?

My server acts not only as a server but a router as well... it doesn't have a conventional firewall. I worked for a security company that looks at all incoming traffic and can route and block traffic that looks malicious. It is not a firewall it is a routing program in itself. This runs on my main server that can route to Network A, B, or C. As I said I do this for a living my garage is a "server farm" or as good as it can be for residential.
I have not had any attacks in over 3 years... I think I am doing pretty good.

I have used orb with my G1 and 3G and it streamed sirius just fine. that was with usirius as well, also it was with original rc now I am at 30 it may not work havent tried it yet