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Wifi speeds?

I'm wondering what kind of wifi speeds are you getting out of your prophet?
I can't seem to get more than 11 mbps, although I have not done any tweaking either on access point or on the prophet. Anybody getting higher (and how?)?
You can check the speed of your connection in Settings>WLAN>Main> (look at tx rate)

When I had a 802.11B router I was getting 11mps on my Prophet. Recently I upgraded to an 802.11G router and set it to G only and now when I look at the tx rate it says "auto". So I really have no idea what my transfer rate is although I can confirm that it appears to be running about twice as fast when copying files off the network and streaming video is miles better.

When you say "video streaming" do you refer to viewing videos from the pc on your network, or internet streaming videos?
I haven't tried either, but would be interested in your insight.

krale said:
When you say "video streaming" do you refer to viewing videos from the pc on your network, or internet streaming videos?
I haven't tried either, but would be interested in your insight.
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Yes I mean viewing videos streamed from my pc to my Prophet via my wifi network. I used a DVD to Pocket PC ripper (I can't remember it's name offhand) and rip my entire DVD collection at the highest setting and save them all to my PC. I can then watch the movies on my Prophet via wifi and it doesn't seem to want to buffer at all. This saves me having to use up space on my SD card. Also at night when I'm in bed it's a fantastic way to catch up on all those gory action films that my wife doesn't want to watch (Kill Bill etc) not to mention at 6am when my 3yr old comes rampaging into the room and climbing on the bed I can put on the Wiggles or similar and hey presto I get another half an hour sleep

I set my router to G only mode and saw that I was getting 24 mbps with my Prophet, I don't know if that is the max or not. I have since changed my router back to b,g auto because the range in G only is fine for in the house, but for long distance B is better.

Thanks guys, that's helpful.
So is it fair to assume that if the router is positioned on auto (b/g) you will get only 11Mbps, and if you set it higher, you may achieve higher speeds?
I mean, my router is set on auto, and I have no way of setting it to g-only, so I am wondering if a new router would improve speeds....
Thanks for your input.

One more thing, How do you guys do that streaming thing? I mean I have a program which lets me see my shared folders on the PC over wifi, and I can open documents easily over the network. But whenever I click an mp3, or (god-forbid) video file, Windows Media either blocks, or says something like 'no parameter'...
What am I doing wrong?

Sorry for my tardy response (you may have already worked this out) but streaming movies with TCPMP rather than Windows Media is the bettter option. So long as you have your network set up (ie. can browse to shared folders on you pc) then it's just a case of within TCPMP "open file" and browsing to the shared area you have on your network that contains your movies .... and play. Likewise for MP3s.
For some reason I cannot get it working the same using Windows Media .... which does not bother me at all because I prefer TCPMP.
Hope this helps ... you you need any more info just ask ... I'll try to be a bit swifter this time

Hey thanks a lot for the answer. I had already tried with TCMPC player and streaming worked splendid... No probs at all...
My only worry for the prophet now is battery time...

krale said:
One more thing, How do you guys do that streaming thing? I mean I have a program which lets me see my shared folders on the PC over wifi, and I can open documents easily over the network. But whenever I click an mp3, or (god-forbid) video file, Windows Media either blocks, or says something like 'no parameter'...
What am I doing wrong?
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You might possibly get a faster through put with G only, but in theory with auto mode it should switch to B mode only when the signal is very weak. I switched my router to G only mode just to verify that my Prophet was capable of G speeds.

Could you watch the world cup on your phone?

The BBC are streaming all their matches on their website... Possibilities???

Doubt it would work due to bandwidth issues.

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The BBC are streaming all their matches on their website... Possibilities???
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Do you have a link, might work with WiFi.

It won't matter come Sunday when your team is knocked out. Never mind the BBC might broadcast Eastenders instead... :wink:

hmmm, using orb? slingbox?
i watched today brazil ANNIHILATE japan right from my wizard at work.
I was the hero there today. Seriously.

No problem watching Ghana kick the US's backside around the field with a slingbox and mobile on the wizard. Even used ESPN HD just to see if I could.

reading on the slingbox it says 256Kbps upstream speed required (for out-of-home viewing), how did it show on ur wizard?

Explain how this is possible and what I need to do please?

Orb
I use orb to stream my tv, movies and music to my 8125 while I'm at work. Luckily we have a g based wifi access point that has a decent downstream to get good quality streams set up. Even with EDGE speeds I can only sustain a 60-100kb/sec stream. This is okay for music, but is no good for streaming live TV. You have to set up a "server" which is basically a Windows XP Media Center Edition box with a compatable TV Tuner card. Orb runs a program on your PC that uploads and streams the live tv, or basically any media stored on that PC to anywhere that has internet access. Make sure you setup your firewall to allow the orb desktop client server access. Everything should be golden after that. I recently droped my broadband service and have been leeching off of a neighbor's access point and have noticed some significant deterioration in the quality of the streams I get through orb. I'd reccomend that the PC with the Orb server runing not be connected via wifi for the most unrestricted access to upload bandwidth. Just check out http://www.orb.com for info and how-to set up the PC. On the pocet pc side you just go to the link above and type in your username/pass and select what you want to stream... Works like a charm.

radici said:
reading on the slingbox it says 256Kbps upstream speed required (for out-of-home viewing), how did it show on ur wizard?
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Slingbox works fine over wi-fi. I have my slingbox hooked up to a DSL connection with something like 800k up - I forget actually - and when I go to a local cafe with wi-fi I can watch TV just fine on my MDA, even flipping it on its side to display landscape. It can control my directv PVR just fine.
It'd be hard to follow a soccer match real well, the ball would be hard to see I think.

radici said:
reading on the slingbox it says 256Kbps upstream speed required (for out-of-home viewing), how did it show on ur wizard?
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Slingbox works fine over wi-fi. I have my slingbox hooked up to a DSL connection with something like 800k up - I forget actually - and when I go to a local cafe with wi-fi I can watch TV just fine on my MDA, even flipping it on its side to display landscape. It can control my directv PVR just fine.
It'd be hard to follow a soccer match real well, the ball would be hard to see I think.

We may be able to use the bbc's stream after a bit of poking around If someone can post me a link on there web site to the stream I have a look, to give you a idea here's one I found after abit of poking http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/nb/wm/video/heads_nb.asx Ive used that for the last few years, great for a quick news update.

ok not perfect.... but im still looking for the narrow band feed
Live BBC One coverage: Germany v Sweden
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/sport/live/bb/wm/video/ukonly/sol_now6a_bb.asx
or Radio Five Live Feed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/live/live.asx

radici said:
reading on the slingbox it says 256Kbps upstream speed required (for out-of-home viewing), how did it show on ur wizard?
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I get the occasional jerkiness but overall, it does very well. It's impressive enough that I paid the $30 for the remote viewer app. Note that this is using T-Mobile's EDGE network. I don't think the 256 kbps matters a whole lot when the download speed is a lot less than that. I bought the slingbox so I could watch TV from the backyard patio using a laptop but since the PPC app was a free trial download, I figured I'd give it a shot. Now I'm completely hooked. I suppose your mileage may vary given network usage, EDGE speed in your area, blah blah blah etc and so on ad nauseum, but it works great for me.

Streaming Audio keeps dropping out

Hi All,
I have been trying all day to get streaming audio (Shoutcast) to work using various programs (GSPlayer, MortPlayer, Conduits Pocket Player), and all with the same result.
Using a 32 kbs stream to test, the stream consistently drops out after about 3.5 minutes of playing, and has to rebuffer all over again from scratch. This happened with every program I've tested. I wasn't able to test TCPMP, because every time I try to open a .pls file with that program, I get a "Could not open URL" message.
Also, my internet connection is set up to use a proxy server. I don't know if that makes a difference, since I am able to play the stream in the first place.
I am doing these tests at my house where I have a 4-bar EDGE connection, so I know that the signal strength is not (or should not be) an issue here.
Is it possible that, while streaming, the main memory gets filled up with the streaming audio file? I don't yet have a mini SD card (plan to get one soon). I don't know if that would make a difference. Even if it would, maybe there is a registry setting that would force the streaming audio program to cache temp stuff to the SD card instead of main memory (?)
If anyone reading this uses streaming audio on their Wizard using a GPRS/EDGE connection, what program you are using, and also what settings/tweaks have you made which might help me?
Thanks!

Sounds like the proxy to me. Using Tmobile? I believe if you use the cheap plan with the proxy settings, it restricts the maximum amount of data per session.

Yes, I do have T-Mobile and also the cheaper plan that uses a proxy. *sigh* ... Ah well, I can always put the .pls track on "repeat" so that it rebuffers automatically after its 3.5 minutes are up. This is using a 32 kbs stream, so that means with a higher quality (96 kbs) I only would get about 1.5 minutes or so before it drops out. After many tests using many different streams, the amount of time before a dropout seems to be pretty consistent based on the stream quality.
Just curious though, you said that the maximum amount of data "per session" is limited, yet I do not have to reconnect the GPRS/EDGE when the streaming audio drops out, I only have to rebuffer the stream. (?)

i have the exact same problem. but im using their 29.99 plan and im not even using a proxy. i get 4 bars of edge. but when i stream shoutcasts on gsplayer, the connection drops repeatedly and has to buffer all over again. its really annoying. hope anyone has a solution to this. i hate staying in one place around a wifi connection to stream radio. i want it to work everywhere i go. does this happen on 3g networks by any chance? T-mobile here in the u.s need to hurry up with their 3g networks.

same problem here trying to use PocketXM and WMP on Cingular Edge with the unlimited plan. under 5 min of stream before it has to re-buffer. it really makes the streaming worthless (does it to video too) if someone knows how to fix this, ill write you a nice thank you card!

Streaming problems with ORB & WM10

Hi,
Is anyone successfully using ORB (www.orb.com) and streaming either video content or live TV to their TyTN?
I can stream perfectly but even in full screen landscape mode the picture is still only about the size of a postage stamp in the center of the screen with the rest of the screen black
I have heard of some people using TCPMP from coreplayer, however this is even worse as the screen (and sometimes the entire phone) just freezes within about 2 seconds of the stream starting. Another problem with TCPMP seems to be that it sometimes asks me if I want to overwrite the live.wmv file which suggests that it is downloading it instead of streaming it
Anyway, I'd much rather have it working in WM10 if only the screen would resize it properly.
Another problem is that I can't stream from my WiFi connection, even at home if I want to stream video I have to use GPRS because I get an error on WiFi (using WM10).
Thanks,
Mark

I use Orb very regularly. I use it with WMP10 on my Tytn and I do not experience the problem that you mention.
The only advice I can offer is that perhaps the the downsizing happens automatically as a result of your network speed. You'll notice that when you log into Orb, the very first thing is does is perform a speed test of the network. It is highly likely the result of that test dictates the resolution and bitrate of video that it streams to your device. I get it full screen with no problem. I'm on Cingular's UMTS in the US. Check that speed test and see what speeds it is getting.
As far as the Wi-Fi goes, I wish I could help you. I can also stream with no problems over Wi-fi. At least you know it's not a limitation of Orb or your device.

After reading your comments I decided to trick Orb into thinking that I was on a fast connection.
I loaded the Orb webpage and did the speedtest using wifi, then turned wifi off and started streaming some live TV...
You're right, it played in full screen
Now if only I could set up my wifi to stream rather than just browse then I'd be sorted!
Thanks,
Mark

Check all your Wi-Fi settings because it doesn't seem to make sense that you can stream over radio but not Wi-Fi. Make sure that the Wi-Fi connection you link up to is set to connect to whatever your main internet connection is on your phone. Also check the router (if you're trying this at home with a wireless router) and make sure your router isn't blocking anything, although when I installed Orb, it configured itself to go through my router without needing any manual input from me, which was nice

although when I installed Orb, it configured itself to go through my router without needing any manual input from me, which was nice
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Well my Dlink DI-524 isn't quite so helpfull
I've traced the problem to my router, and I can now stream by manually assigning an IP address to the TyTN (as opposed to DCHP) and then putting that IP into the routers DMZ (demilitarised zone).
I'm not sure how safe it is doing that but at least it works now
Mark

Video Streaming (via Cingular/AT&T)

Greetings,
I tried searching for this topic but could not find details on it so I'm making a post. Please forgive me (and feel free to delete) if this has been covered.
I have set up a few streaming media servers (HTTP trying several codecs, (wmv mp4 divx etc)). When I connect my phone (Kaiser) (over WIFI) to the server using TCMP or WMP it seems to play fine. When I try to use HSDPA/3G or EDGE, it will not establish a connection at all. It's not an issue of bitrate as I dropped the streaming rate well below the network's capabilaties. I've tried to run the service on several different ports and nothing seems to work. Does anybody know of packet based content filtering going on with portions of the at&t network?
Best regards,
Kisamamike

kisamamike said:
Greetings,
I tried searching for this topic but could not find details on it so I'm making a post. Please forgive me (and feel free to delete) if this has been covered.
I have set up a few streaming media servers (HTTP trying several codecs, (wmv mp4 divx etc)). When I connect my phone (Kaiser) (over WIFI) to the server using TCMP or WMP it seems to play fine. When I try to use HSDPA/3G or EDGE, it will not establish a connection at all. It's not an issue of bitrate as I dropped the streaming rate well below the network's capabilaties. I've tried to run the service on several different ports and nothing seems to work. Does anybody know of packet based content filtering going on with portions of the at&t network?
Best regards,
Kisamamike
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I don't know if this helps, but I was having problems with Slinplayer and couldn't get it to connect via medianet, only wifi. After a few hours of pulling my hair out and searching, I realized all I had to do was go in and uncheck the "this connection uses a proxy" box and then soft reset and all was well. Great connection and great video playback.