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Wifi speeds?

I'm wondering what kind of wifi speeds are you getting out of your prophet?
I can't seem to get more than 11 mbps, although I have not done any tweaking either on access point or on the prophet. Anybody getting higher (and how?)?
You can check the speed of your connection in Settings>WLAN>Main> (look at tx rate)

When I had a 802.11B router I was getting 11mps on my Prophet. Recently I upgraded to an 802.11G router and set it to G only and now when I look at the tx rate it says "auto". So I really have no idea what my transfer rate is although I can confirm that it appears to be running about twice as fast when copying files off the network and streaming video is miles better.

When you say "video streaming" do you refer to viewing videos from the pc on your network, or internet streaming videos?
I haven't tried either, but would be interested in your insight.

krale said:
When you say "video streaming" do you refer to viewing videos from the pc on your network, or internet streaming videos?
I haven't tried either, but would be interested in your insight.
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Yes I mean viewing videos streamed from my pc to my Prophet via my wifi network. I used a DVD to Pocket PC ripper (I can't remember it's name offhand) and rip my entire DVD collection at the highest setting and save them all to my PC. I can then watch the movies on my Prophet via wifi and it doesn't seem to want to buffer at all. This saves me having to use up space on my SD card. Also at night when I'm in bed it's a fantastic way to catch up on all those gory action films that my wife doesn't want to watch (Kill Bill etc) not to mention at 6am when my 3yr old comes rampaging into the room and climbing on the bed I can put on the Wiggles or similar and hey presto I get another half an hour sleep

I set my router to G only mode and saw that I was getting 24 mbps with my Prophet, I don't know if that is the max or not. I have since changed my router back to b,g auto because the range in G only is fine for in the house, but for long distance B is better.

Thanks guys, that's helpful.
So is it fair to assume that if the router is positioned on auto (b/g) you will get only 11Mbps, and if you set it higher, you may achieve higher speeds?
I mean, my router is set on auto, and I have no way of setting it to g-only, so I am wondering if a new router would improve speeds....
Thanks for your input.

One more thing, How do you guys do that streaming thing? I mean I have a program which lets me see my shared folders on the PC over wifi, and I can open documents easily over the network. But whenever I click an mp3, or (god-forbid) video file, Windows Media either blocks, or says something like 'no parameter'...
What am I doing wrong?

Sorry for my tardy response (you may have already worked this out) but streaming movies with TCPMP rather than Windows Media is the bettter option. So long as you have your network set up (ie. can browse to shared folders on you pc) then it's just a case of within TCPMP "open file" and browsing to the shared area you have on your network that contains your movies .... and play. Likewise for MP3s.
For some reason I cannot get it working the same using Windows Media .... which does not bother me at all because I prefer TCPMP.
Hope this helps ... you you need any more info just ask ... I'll try to be a bit swifter this time

Hey thanks a lot for the answer. I had already tried with TCMPC player and streaming worked splendid... No probs at all...
My only worry for the prophet now is battery time...

krale said:
One more thing, How do you guys do that streaming thing? I mean I have a program which lets me see my shared folders on the PC over wifi, and I can open documents easily over the network. But whenever I click an mp3, or (god-forbid) video file, Windows Media either blocks, or says something like 'no parameter'...
What am I doing wrong?
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You might possibly get a faster through put with G only, but in theory with auto mode it should switch to B mode only when the signal is very weak. I switched my router to G only mode just to verify that my Prophet was capable of G speeds.

Real video streaming over WIFI?

Finally I managed to make Real player working, following the instructions on this link www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=223297&st=0
Everything works just fine when I stream video over 3G network but when I try the same same over WIFI it just tries for 30 seconds and ends up with the message "Response or data from server timed out" and that is it. WIFI is working normally everywhere else in any of the apps that require the Net.
Anybody has a clue?
Sorry if this has been discussed before, I searched the forum but nothing came out...
Using JJ with latest ROM...

OK, let me rephrase it… Can anybody use Real player to stream video or audio using WIFI connection?

I real player all around my house to stream audio over wifi so i can listen to music.
I cant get it to work on 3g as it gives a timeout error.
steve

Thanks for the reply.
You have, exactly, the opposite situation.
I prefer to have it over WIFI rather then 3G since it takes a lot of bandwidth and I have contract of only 200 Mb per month.
Now I am even more confused than before…

go here: http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=343&more=1
for a solution

Orb anyone?

I haven't found anything on here for Orb. Doesn't anyone use it? It is so useful on winmo (specially the diamond with only 4 gb of internal storage) and it would be even better on the G1.
Supposedly orb says it works, can anyone here get it to work on 3G? It works if you are connected to your own personal wifi, but when you connect to someone elses (or 3G) you get an error.

Are you using the orb website?
And is your computer open on the right ports?

I am going through orb.com on my g1. I never changed anything on my computer. It was working fine with my sprint diamond, and even worked somewhat OK with my sprint instinct, but not with this g1 I can't get anything to stream via 3G.
Have no idea about ports and stuff. I know that orb gave a link to some sort of complicated thread about changing stuff, I didn't want to get all technical until I find out that is the only method.
I tried changing formats and speeds but nuttin.

It may be the new t-mobile settings they are now redirecting images on the data connections to compress them... maybe for audio too?

I am able to browse my orb page, but when I try to stream video I am unable to open the feed with anything. It worked great with my tilt even t-mobile's edge. If somebody is watching tv using orb on their g1, give everyone some idea as to how you are using it. What type of feed are you using there are a few, I figure it has to be one of the 3 .3gp streams. Will play with it again when I get home.
Thanks,
Manny

It's probably a problem with not forwarding ports. I'll look into it.

I have it working on my setup... I am using Video Player and that is what picked up the movie...
Also audio plays as well going through the music player.
I am not seeing any issues I suspect they are with your computer or internet connection. I have my computer set up in a way that allows all ports to be forwarded in and out... This is part of my speciality so of course I know exactly what I am doing so I can do it but I don't suggest everyone to do it.
The other thing is if your connections up speed (smaller of two numbers normally) is low you will have issues. Because of the 3G being faster than edge it may have issues. I would suggest checking issues with your network speed while on the orb page.

What is the stream type? Flash? WMV...what? The video player launches on mine but it states the format is not supported. Can someone look into their Settings and post results? Thanks.

Its great over wifi. Doesn't stream videos well over 3G. Audio is fine though.

neoobs said:
I have my computer set up in a way that allows all ports to be forwarded in and out... This is part of my speciality so of course I know exactly what I am doing so I can do it but I don't suggest everyone to do it.
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Your speciality? I didn't know that 30 seconds in a router took that much skill...

I have it set up a little differently LOL not just your normal NAT or DMZ style, I actually have a business line to my house for my job and I keep my work computer and my personal computer on seperate networks and the server has a seperate IP as well that is connected to both networks. Like I said I know what I am doing been in the business for quite some time and this is what I do for a living. I don't have any firewalls on the server it is completely open... but I don't think you will be getting in any time soon HEHE.
On the codec side... I have to check other videos to see if they work because the video I streamed was meant to play on the G1... but the codec is 3gp-aac/rtsp format
All videos work at that codec... makes it easier to watch videos now LOL

Mine works pretty well over wifi and network. I think what had happened to me was when I first tried testing it there wasn't a video app yet and I didn't bother to try it again until now. Back when I first got the phone. 3gp-aac/rtsp stream works for me, every once in a while it does tell me it can't play a video, but if I restart the stream it work.

I can connect and get my picture and music files but I can't get video or TV...I'm thinking it has to be something with the stream settings because I have a video that plays off my SD card but wont play when I try connecting through orb to same video file on my computer. What speed do you recommend? Can we stream TV at this point or is that out because of limited file formats?

Orb working for me
Orb is working just fine for me. Audio, video, everything. The only issue I have is when my phone switches from 3g to edge at work, it comes up and says that I can't play the video. I then restart from the same point, and it works fine. I just had to forward my ports.

port forwarding huh? Mind posting a link to for a step by step?

Port Forwarding Instructions
http://support.orb.com/kb/entry/121

www.portforward.com

neoobs said:
but I don't think you will be getting in any time soon HEHE.
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How exactly would you stop 0day exploits without a firewall? Or do you just pretend those don't exist... ?

My server acts not only as a server but a router as well... it doesn't have a conventional firewall. I worked for a security company that looks at all incoming traffic and can route and block traffic that looks malicious. It is not a firewall it is a routing program in itself. This runs on my main server that can route to Network A, B, or C. As I said I do this for a living my garage is a "server farm" or as good as it can be for residential.
I have not had any attacks in over 3 years... I think I am doing pretty good.

I have used orb with my G1 and 3G and it streamed sirius just fine. that was with usirius as well, also it was with original rc now I am at 30 it may not work havent tried it yet

Poor WiFi Performance on HTC Fuze (RSS, Orb)

I have had two different HTC Fuze devices now and have noticed that the WiFi performance seems to be rather slow. I have a 54mbps wireless network setup I believe (I use wired Gigabit ethernet for my PCs, WHS & Media Streamer), yet the only difference in speeds I notice between my WiFi network and AT&T's 3G seem to be better latency on WiFi. I have tried all 3 different WiFi settings in Windows Mobile, Performance/Balanced/BatterySave, and they don't seem to make much difference.
Now, as far as Opera Mobile goes, the poor speed can probably be attributed to the browser's rendering engine and the device's hardware, but my real complaint here is with the RSS reader I use, Spb Insight. I have 58 feeds set up, and it took it about 30-35 minutes to download 42.7~ MB of data over my WiFi network. I realize this isn't too bad, all things considered, but my Comcast cable connection is 20 mbps downlink, and if I were to download 42 megs of data on my desktop PC, we'd be looking at around 21 seconds (max transfer of ~2.11 MB/sec, tested on GigaNews USENET servers).
So my question is, assuming the bottleneck isn't the Spb Insight RSS Reader software, which I don't think it is, are there any registry changes/hacks or software I can use to get a bit better speed out of the Fuze's WiFi radio? I am running the stock AT&T ROM with the workaround that bypasses the AT&T BloatWare Install and my radio is stock also. I did a few forum searches and didn't come up with much of anything, and nothing Fuze related.
Is anyone else noticing slower-than-expected/desired WiFi speeds on their Fuze?
-- As an aside, I noted earlier I have a Media Streamer box - basically a dedicated small Shuttle brand PC box that I stuck a dual-core Celeron into that's only function is to transcode & stream videos via the Orb Software. I used a Seinfeld episode xvid @ 576x432 resolution that plays near-perfect, a frame-skip here and there (and looks gorgeous, I might add) on the Fuze using CorePlayer v1.2.5, but when I stream those same videos off my streamer box (transcoded into WMV) using Orb over WiFi, they're nearly unwatchable from all the hiccups and audio sync issues. I haven't even bothered trying it using 3G, since it can't even manage it over wireless. These videos streamed without any issue to my Archos 5 60GB Internet Media Tablet and Nokia N810 IT, both devices I've since sold, as the HTC Fuze replaces both without much issue, although the 600MHz ARM Cortex A8 + Graphics Chip in the Archos was a monster, eating webpages for breakfast & outputting 720p video to HDTV with nary a frameskip to be seen. They need to get those Cortex procs into mobile phones ASAP.
In any case, it seems like the WiFi is hindering me in this regard as well and I'd very much like to get this all ironed out so I can rest easy knowing my Fuze does everything I want it to. Sorry for the long-winded post, and a big thank you to all the contributors here for the amazing wealth of knowledge on these forums.

Try to change your radio stack, check for WLAN setup utilities to lock your transfer speed at 54 and try to make a WiFi connection with your PC to make sure it is not your router who makes lags

I noticed that the range of the Fuze's wi-fi is very limited. Anyone else notice this??

Having only used the Sprint TP, I didn't notice any specific issues with WiFi. Have you verified that all of the connection settings are properly configured? (wifi connects to internet instead of work network and your applications are set to use 'the internet' instead of 'MEdia Net') Then again, the stock Fuze ROM could very well just suck as most ATT HTC ROMs usually do

[Q] What causes tethering to use more data?

Can anyone explain to me why tethering uses more data? I am replacing my head unit in my car with a Nexus 7. While I plan to have plenty of downloaded podcasts available, I also want the option of using streaming music services. When tethering I am using my phone as a WiFi hotspot, Nexus is running the latest version of SmoothROM.
So, for an experiment I set up tethering on my phone, checked the current data useage, opened Slacker on the tablet and played music for 15 minutes. In that time the Tablet (according to the phone data useage) consumed about 24MB of data. Did the same but then using Slacker on my phone, this time after 15 minutes, only 7MB of data. At that rate I would only get about 30 hours of music before starting to run into the ridiculous 3GB cap. While 30 hours is a lot, I have 6+ hours of commuting a week. As I wrote above, I plan to have a good number of downloaded content available, but am curious as to the difference between what on the face of it, should be the same.
Looking in a little deeper, on the phone it shows 5MB of foreground data, and 2GB of background data, on the tablet its about a 50/50 split showing 12MB for both foreground and background. I checked the settings, and the only differences were that I had Overnight refresh on the tablet switched on (not that it should make any difference as first, it was not overnight, and second I don't have any downloaded content for it to refresh) and off on the phone. On the phone I also have audio quality set to Best, but only set to Good on the tablet.
If someone can explain the difference to me I would appeciate it.
Thanks.
Edit: So upon further research it seems that Slacker changes the bitrate / codecs it uses when using wifi vs cellular networks. Even though the phone is using cellular data, the Nexus thinks its connected to wifi and so requests the higher bitrate. Wondering if there is a way to force it to use one vs the other.

Tethering via Bluetooth seems to convince my N7 that it's on a mobile connection.

naiku said:
Edit: So upon further research it seems that Slacker changes the bitrate / codecs it uses when using wifi vs cellular networks. Even though the phone is using cellular data, the Nexus thinks its connected to wifi and so requests the higher bitrate. Wondering if there is a way to force it to use one vs the other.
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This was going to be my suggestion, glad you figured it out. Some other apps have ways to adjust the data quality, not sure about Slacker. FYI, if you have an Android ICS+ phone, you can use Bluetooth tethering. It uses less power both for the phone and the tablet, and since it's not wifi, it might use a lower bitrate codec. Dunno.

Your phone is doing crap in the background. Its common.
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khaytsus said:
Some other apps have ways to adjust the data quality, not sure about Slacker. FYI, if you have an Android ICS+ phone, you can use Bluetooth tethering. It uses less power both for the phone and the tablet, and since it's not wifi, it might use a lower bitrate codec. Dunno.
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Slacker has an option to change the quality, but it appeared to make no difference (I had both set to the lowest setting). My phone does have ICS, so I will give tethering via Bluetooth a try and see how that goes.
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Your phone is doing crap in the background. Its common.
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But the phone used less data than the tablet? Did you mean to write that the tablet is doing more stuff in the background? regardless, I looked specifically at the data useage of the Slacker app only. Which ruled out anything the phone/tablet may be doing in the background.

So, tried again this afternoon tethered via Bluetooth (which was a pain to get working for some odd reason). This time 15 minutes of Slacker useage only increased the data useage on the phone by 15MB. I am guessing that along with Slacker the tablet was trying to do background updates as well, I plan to turn on the minimize background updates later and try again. Either way it would appear Bluetooth streaming is the way to go.

Does the Data usage item still appear in Settings on a non-3G Nexus 7? If so, in that menu you can tap the menu button up top and choose "Mobile hotspots". Here you can select which wifi networks are in fact mobile hotspots rather than actual unrestricted Internet connections. When you are connected to these, at least in theory it will tell apps to stick to the low bandwidth features.