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Vista connection problems

Hi,
My hdd gave up in my laptop other day bought another 1 installed vista
now im having connection problems both with bluetooth and via usb with my
t-mobile ameo
does any 1 know if there is a update some where to get them working again
ive done a windows update and installed windows mobile device centre
thanks

Im running Vista business edition and had no problems at all - even updated my rom!
What do you get when you plus the Ameo in? Does it show up in the Device centre?

sync centre has just got the usual offline folder
windows mobile device centre 6.1 has the mobile device settings and the not
connected bit at the bottom
its so weired it all synced b4 theres nothing different installed setup etc...
on the device it says "to synchronize this device, you must install activesync 4.5 or newer on your desktop computer"
thanks

How Wierd.... mine lliterally just fired up autoomatically.

In your PPC, go to SETTING -> CONNECTIONS -> USB TO PC. Untick the "ENABLE ADVANCED NETWORK FUNCTIONALITY". Remove the connection by unplugging your USB cable and the plugging it again. No guarantee this will work, but you may try.

IT Works
i tried the unticking the advance option still didnt work...
i thought about the user account control in vista this came as my mobile
data card for my laptop wasnt installed correctly and after checking out the
install log and it saying access control n a load of other stuff saying
permission denied etc.... i thought id turn vistas user account control off this
fixed my data card problem ......i then pluged my t-mobile ameo in and hey
presto it picked it up as a black HTC Advantage due to my mobile 6 rom
upgrade

I believe Active Sync won't work on Visat, you need Mobile Device Center, available here
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ea-9df9-4920-af33-3a0e2e4e7beb&displaylang=en

Makes sense as I have crappy user control switched off as it annoyed me greatly!

Vista Utlimate Connects but refuses access.
This solution worked instantly for us.
cayotte said:
In your PPC, go to SETTING -> CONNECTIONS -> USB TO PC. Untick the "ENABLE ADVANCED NETWORK FUNCTIONALITY". Remove the connection by unplugging your USB cable and the plugging it again. No guarantee this will work, but you may try.
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We had downloaded the upgrade device driver and the Windoze Vista replacement for ActiveSync... as Vista dictates on first connection.
We got the sound effect acknowledging USB connection, but Windoze Mobile Device Centre obstinately ignored the connection.
We tried the tricks suggested by the mages and sages, like adding ports etc. to the firewall, and deleting the driver in the Vista Device Manager... forcing it to re-install. None of it worked for the Ameos.
We removed the Mobile Device Centre and the upgraded driver, resolving to connect to the Ameos only via our XP Tablet instead.
It seemed that the USB connection was being made, but something else was blocking it.
Then this possible solution (reproduced here) caught our eye.
It was the work of a moment to follow the path and remove the check in that item.
Imagine our surprise and delight when we connected to Windoze Vista Ultimate again... and remember that there is no upgraded driver or Mobile Device Centre installed now... and we got the "what shall I do with this device" dialogue box. We checked the item to open the device in a folder each time and... it did... and does... just that.
We do not need synchronisation for our use of the Ameos since all of the significant email and document traffic occurs on the laptops and Tablet, but we can appreciate why someone would want that Mobile Device Centre to be re-installed. We won't be doing that anytime soon though.
Congratulations to you cayotte, and this forum as a whole.
BTW, I read about the problems folks have with the Microdrive. We have two Ameos. One works great with the Microdrive, the other one does not, and we have to leave it for data files only.
The older unit is the one which works well.
We already had the User Account Control turned off so I cannot say if that had any effect.
QF
cayotte said:
In your PPC, go to SETTING -> CONNECTIONS -> USB TO PC. Untick the "ENABLE ADVANCED NETWORK FUNCTIONALITY". Remove the connection by unplugging your USB cable and the plugging it again. No guarantee this will work, but you may try.
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Wierd behaviour syncing with Vista

On XP with ActiveSync I can keep my 3G connection going reliably while still syncing. Whatever I do with Vista, the 3G connection goes down and I assume the "Internet" connection goes through the USB. Downside of this for me is VOIP - get a VOIP call while the phone's in the holder and you can't pick it up without losing the connection.
Gotta say I'm no fan of Vista Home Premium, besides not having remote desktop, we're forced to use their Windows Mobile Device Center. I've done Mr.Vanx's Vista hack, but haven't dared to upgrade anything on that system given it's wierd behaviour (relay on my XP system instead).
What am I missing here? Anyone else get the Vista sync to work as well as with XP?
(I've run some searches, but must have missed something.)

did you make sure you turned off the data service through the connection options? I know somewhere in there it gives you the option to allow data connections while connected to the pc.

I would never upgrade a device over Vista the sync center; it is so unstable, I too run Vista but to upgrade I have to boot into XP because device center crashes just synching and this is on a top spec machine. I would never trust it to do a upgrade.

Thanks for the tip, vwest87, but I guess that's what I'm after.
In the connection settings on XP ActiveSync if you select "Allow data connections on device when connected to PC" and have the device set to "Enable advanced network functionality" in the USB to PC connection settings, the phone can sync with the computer while at the same time maintaining the 3G data connection. With the same settings on Vista WMDC, I've mostly experienced that the 3G connection shuts down and all data is rerouted to the USB connection.
Now, after uninstalling and reinstalling multiple times it appears to be working as it should (like XP ActiveSync). Guess Murphy's law is in play here. As soon as I put up a post, it miraculously fixes itself. That's what I love about M$, they somehow manage to put magic into a system that's supposed to be logical and controllable (or maybe its gremlins).

Douh! Spoke too soon. Vista shut down WMDC and the device lost the 3G connection and began cyclically trying to reconnect right after my last post. Vista claims that the WMDC host process was improperly using system memory.
Imagine if that happened while upgrading a radio ROM. Upgrading on Vista is tantamount to Russian roulette with your device.
Oh well, back to disabling advanced network functionality on the device to use the USB connection as a charger only.

Upgraded to WM6 and now my PC wireless internet drops out

I have just upgraded my o2 XDAiis to Helmi WM6 and the new software works ok. i have a number of issues.
1. when i put the pda in the cradle my wireless internet drops out. every time and only when i try to sync the device. the wireless manager on the laptop pops up telling me unable to connect to wireless connection.. if i remove the pda and manually reconnect it, it works.. put the pda back in, drops out again.
2. i can no longer sync my ACT contacts.. i am using ACT v6.
it doesn't work and i have to unselect the act options or activesync crashes.. worked fine with WM2003
can anyone suggest a newer program to sync my contacts ?
3. the sound for the phone icon on the pda changes every now and then.. if i have the volume turned up.. it will change to vibrate.. sometimes after i view my calendar and go back to the today screen..
any ideas ?

1. AS-file-connection settings-allow wireless connection when cradle
2. dont know
3. dont realy understend the problem, is the volume changing from load to quited or vibrate chaotic?

Let me guess, you have a Centrino laptop with an Intel wifi card, and your wifi connection uses WPA security?
The problem is a bug in the Intel drivers. I fought for months with that issue. Intel finally fixed it in drivers released a couple of months ago. Just go to your laptop manufacturer's site and download the latest drivers, or go direct to Intel.com and get them there.
As an alternative solution you can switch the PPC's USB sync mode from RNDIS (the default which triggers this problem) to serial mode, but you will have to remember to do it every time you hard reset.
Go to Start->Settings->Connections tab->USB to PC icon, and untick the box that says "Enable advanced network functionality". Sometimes a soft reset is required to make the change.
If you don't have an Intel wifi card then it must be some other issue.

yes.. i have an IBM laptop with centrino and i am using an intel wireless card with WPA security.
however i have the latest drivers - 9.0.4.36
i will try the settings change to disable advanced networking features

Frequent 3g connectivity on/off on vista side

Hi.
Anyone with same problem. I only have seen it on vista side. Working with 3g conectivity. One minute is connected with tray icon showing globe. Then 30 isnt connected with tray icon showing computers with red cross. Then again connected 3 minutes. It seems a problem between vista side and internet sharing service from snapvue. I ve seen this issue in other spanish shift. Maybe a spanish version problem? any idea?
Thanks

Not much help I know but see my thread titled 'continued vista connection problems'. Have you been using internet sharing to gain access to WM 6.0? i noticed Activesync was always starting on the snapvue side which I think is linked to the constant disconnections.
A full restore from the restore partition solved my problem and I now get a steady 3g connection.

Thanks for your response. Not alone now. Format is a solution but we should know the origin of this problem. Obviosly is related with the way connects to 3g, this is, using Internet Shared connection with snapvue...but...why suddenly activesync (client or server part) tries to connect the other side and breaks the internet shared connection? any idea?Did you install sp1? is your shift language english or other one? ( I am trying to discard sources of the problem).
pd. While I write these lines on winmo side I can listen vista side sounds (connect/disconnect each minute...)

Hi,
I did some changes and It seems (by now) the problem is solved. I ve playing with continous 3g connections. This is what I did (I dont know which one did the trick).
1) Disable activesync usb connections for both sides( I did it for vista side days ago but know I did too in snapvue size.
2) Sevice Sync bluetooth Server stopped and set manually.
3) Reset both sides
Now I ve a stable 3g connection....

Daniel
Glad you got it working. What do you do to disable Activesync on the Snapvue side?
I only noticed this problem after installing SP1 but I was working mostly with WIFI so cannot be sure there is a link.

gavmiller said:
Daniel
Glad you got it working. What do you do to disable Activesync on the Snapvue side?
I only noticed this problem after installing SP1 but I was working mostly with WIFI so cannot be sure there is a link.
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Hi.
The problem is solved, now for sure. Open Activesync in winmo,then menu/connections and uncheck "use usb ...". I removed too the partership between both sides althought It isnt important, I think...

Thanks Daniel. Good to know incase it happens again.

Today I am having the same issue...mmm, I dont know what else I can do. I will post the events I can see in the event's viewer....

danielherrero said:
Today I am having the same issue...mmm, I dont know what else I can do. I will post the events I can see in the event's viewer....
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Hi Daniel - are you still having these problmes?

Hi. I didnt have that issue anymore. I removed the partership whith the device on vista side. I remove "Usb connection option" on activesync in both sides. I uninstalled "Remove NDIS Share connection" (Device Manager) on vista side and rebooted. Then on restart vista recognized again the device(Remove NDIS Shared connection) after some minutes(5-10 min) and then all worked correctly. I think the last step did the trick. But I am not free of problems. Like I told before when I resume the device and It was hibernated/suspended for a long time (several hours) the 20% of times It cant connect 3g and even I cant restart vista but keeping pressed the power button. So, by now, If my device is going to stay suspended for a long time (night) then I turn it off......
pd. When I need connect vista and snapvue I turn the phone off. I enable usb connection in both sides and use usbtools. After using the connection I undo these steps and all works correctly by now (last 3 weeks).
Ensure too that Vista hasnt setup a new Windows CE device on Device Manager. To check it open Device Manager, then "See devices by connection" and check each usb connection. If you see any Windows CE device disable it. I think both Remove NDIS Shared connection and a Windows CE Device was fighting for the same usb connection (In my case)

danielherrero said:
Hi. I didnt have that issue anymore. I removed the partership whith the device on vista side. I remove "Usb connection option" on activesync in both sides. I uninstalled "Remove NDIS Share connection" (Device Manager) on vista side and rebooted. Then on restart vista recognized again the device(Remove NDIS Shared connection) after some minutes(5-10 min) and then all worked correctly. I think the last step did the trick. But I am not free of problems. Like I told before when I resume the device and It was hibernated/suspended for a long time (several hours) the 20% of times It cant connect 3g and even I cant restart vista but keeping pressed the power button. So, by now, If my device is going to stay suspended for a long time (night) then I turn it off......
pd. When I need connect vista and snapvue I turn the phone off. I enable usb connection in both sides and use usbtools. After using the connection I undo these steps and all works correctly by now (last 3 weeks).
Ensure too that Vista hasnt setup a new Windows CE device on Device Manager. To check it open Device Manager, then "See devices by connection" and check each usb connection. If you see any Windows CE device disable it. I think both Remove NDIS Shared connection and a Windows CE Device was fighting for the same usb connection (In my case)
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OK, the only bit I hadnt tried was the uninstall of the NDIS in device manager. I'll give it a go and see what happens. Thanks again for this reply!

Thanks Daniel for your detailed description on this problem, which I also have. Interesting thing is that for me it only occurs when I am on the move with my Shift. No problems when my Shift remains on my desk (like others described in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381220&page=2 )
On your described solution: I removed the Vista/Snapvue partnership and the usb connection on both sides. But I am not able to do the next step: "Remove NDIS Share connection" in device manager, because it's not there (see attached screenshot). Does this mean it was never there, so I do not have to uninstall it? Or is there a different way to find it?

Hi.
Reset Vista to ensure It boots correctly. Then wait to be 3g connected. Once you are connected the device "Remote NDIS shared connection" should be there under network cards. Then uninstall it and reset again. Once booted you have to wait several minutes until vista detects it again and installs drivers.....
pd. And try to contact HTC. Maybe (only maybe) if HTC is reported with same problem from many people they releases a fix.....

Hi there,
That did not help at all!
Waste of time.
But thanks for the hint.
What DID help for me was closing WMDC through taskmanager.
When you just exit WMDC, task manager still shows that it is running there in the background and apperantly scanning your ports for mobile devices ore something.
I stopped it from running and have a stable connection now.
(replying from train right now)
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

Pfeffa-rah said:
Hi there,
That did not help at all!
Waste of time.
But thanks for the hint.
What DID help for me was closing WMDC through taskmanager.
When you just exit WMDC, task manager still shows that it is running there in the background and apperantly scanning your ports for mobile devices ore something.
I stopped it from running and have a stable connection now.
(replying from train right now)
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah
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Hi
Do you have to do this each time you start vista?
Cheers

firedup said:
Hi
Do you have to do this each time you start vista?
Cheers
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I think you only have to do it after you used WMDC. On my shift it doesnot start at boot (not anymore...) If I want to sync shift or my kaiser, I need to startup WMDC manualy.
grtz,
Pfeffa-rah

My experiences so far.
Is it possible that it is the energy plan that is responsible for the loss of connection. I installed SP1, no problems it seemed. Today I wanted to use the 3G connection with the battery (balanced energy plan). And then it started to disconnect and to connect in small intervals. I did the routine Daniel described: uninstalled NDIS driver. Reinstalled it but connectivity problems remained.
Is it something to do with the battery powered system?
Because, as soon as stop using the battery, plugging in the power adapter again everything seems to be okay. I am not sure about it, but I think, when I use the max power option with the battery the connection stays and fails when I use the balanced energy plan.
So can it be that something in the energy plan is responsible for the loss of the connection?
Experts, does that make any sense?
I will give it some more tries.
S.

I had the High Performance powerplan on all the time......

had it to
Hi
This is a problem when sp1 is installed and you are using 3g in vista being in balanced or power save power plan. it has nothing to do with activesync and usb ports (i have never had a connection)
i called htc yesterday, they clamed they had never heard about it before, so please as many as possible call htc and tell them then maybe just maybe they would release a fix
in rhe meantime i uninstalled sp1 and everything works

In my case the solution is quite clear.
3G works in Balanced mode and in High Performance when power is plugged in. I am not so sure if it works in “Power Save” even when on power.
3G does not work when either on “Balanced” or “Power Save” when using the battery. Battery works in “High Performance” even when all the options are set like they are in “Balanced” mode.
This I found somewhere else in the forum. It is from Daniel and I guess he says the same, more of less.
Well. I ve been doing many tests and changes and I thing the sd, suspend crashes and 3g closed connections are gone.
I use equilibrated energy plan but I hadn’t any issue when ac connected so I ve modified this plan to make equivalent the behavior when not ac connected, but not success. The problems are still there. Its incredible because the configuration for ac connected/disconnected is the same I ve modified all the parameters (usb, expressPCI, , etc)
So I ve set High performance plan and I ve modified it a little bit, only screen brightness when no ac connected and now all works correctly. I start the system (no ac connected). Then I suspend / wake, hibernate/resume the system several times being ac no connected and the problems are gone. 3g connection is very stable. No crashes from standby to hibernate state. No sd missing problem. So by now I will keep in this "High Performance" modified state
pd. So It seems that a plan is compounded by customizable parameters by the user and hidden parameters)
Now, those who have not installed SP1. Is this really no issue for you? Or have you always been on power or always used “High Performance”?
Well, even when I plug in my external battery and the green light indicates that the machine has been plugged to power, even then it only works in “high performance” and not in the two other modes.
Very strange!
S.

Wifi Problem

My shift cannot view any wireless network. I tried different OS - windows 7, windows XP but nothing. Even after a restore to factory settings with Fn+F3 and windows Vista with all drivers right installed, the problem insists.
When I go to the "device manager" it shows that Marvell sd8686 driver is right installed and the green light of wireless is working. I tried everything , even taking out the battery - no good.
This is 100% not a wifi-router problem because any other PC is capable of detecting my wireless network.
Any help appreciated ! Thanks

apoparis said:
My shift cannot view any wireless network. I tried different OS - windows 7, windows XP but nothing. Even after a restore to factory settings with Fn+F3 and windows Vista with all drivers right installed, the problem insists.
When I go to the "device manager" it shows that Marvell sd8686 driver is right installed and the green light of wireless is working. I tried everything , even taking out the battery - no good.
This is 100% not a wifi-router problem because any other PC is capable of detecting my wireless network.
Any help appreciated ! Thanks
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I fear the shift has a defectosity with the Wifi card. Mine has the same problem since last winter, and I couldn't find any way around. As sending it back will cost me an amazing 100$ thanks to HTC policy for north america, I just passed on this one and put my shift on retreat.
If anybody solves this without relying to sending it back, I'm all hears

Check your router settings
I had a similar problem where it would not detect my home wifi network. My router is capable of Wireless N, B, and G. N is no problem, but mixing B & G (the router can support both modes) creates issues. Try setting your router to B or G mode only, (and configure the shift to be the same - through the WiFi Driver settings), and hopefully that will work.

Thaihugo you were right. This is a hardware problem. I found a cheaper solution. A usb wifi adapter. Now I can detect and connect to all networks.