8525 without battery - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hello,
was given an 8525 the PO said that it had a white screen and he couldn't get it to do anything so he bought a tilt....
anyways he gave it to me without a battery in it....
is there anyway to plug it in to run it to try to fix the problem without me having a battery?
hate to buy a battery and then not be able to use it caus eht phone really is dead...
personally i think a quick flash on it and it should fire up....

asjeep said:
Hello,
was given an 8525 the PO said that it had a white screen and he couldn't get it to do anything so he bought a tilt....
anyways he gave it to me without a battery in it....
is there anyway to plug it in to run it to try to fix the problem without me having a battery?
hate to buy a battery and then not be able to use it caus eht phone really is dead...
personally i think a quick flash on it and it should fire up....
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There is no way to do this normally. The Hermes will just show a red LED with no battery in and it will not start.
Theoretically it could be done but so far as I'm aware we do not have info available on the voltages etc you'd need to input to the battery contacts.
You could probably quite easily bypass the charging circuit but unless this is to become a big project for you then really the simple answer is NO.
Mike

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hardwarre problem on wing

so i think my wing may be in the process of biting the big one. A few days ago, my wing restarted itself for no reason, i figured it was probably a system error and didnt think twice about it. Now all of a sudden my wing will constantly restart, sometimes in the middle of a call. Sometimes when it does restart the screen will either turn white or fade to white. I reinstalled the original rom to see if it was a software issue and it is still doing it. Also, it doesnt normally do it when it is just sitting there, and sometimes i cant turn it back on. Any ideas?
Make sure the battery isn't loose inside the case... and that all the prongs are making contact.
For the life of me, i cant figure it out. I know it has to have something to do with the phone not getting power. At this point, it wont even fully turn on. Short of taking it apart and checking the solder, does anyone have any ideas?
dcmtnbkr said:
For the life of me, i cant figure it out. I know it has to have something to do with the phone not getting power. At this point, it wont even fully turn on. Short of taking it apart and checking the solder, does anyone have any ideas?
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If you already reflashed the original rom, and it is still doing it, that tells you it is definitely a hardware issue. It does sound like it's losing power which could be a host of things. (loose battery, defective battery, loose solder on board, etc) I would try what duprade said, and check to make sure your battery has a good connection first. If you had a friend that had a wing as well, you could try his to make sure it's not the battery.
dougstoner said:
If you already reflashed the original rom, and it is still doing it, that tells you it is definitely a hardware issue. It does sound like it's losing power which could be a host of things. (loose battery, defective battery, loose solder on board, etc) I would try what duprade said, and check to make sure your battery has a good connection first. If you had a friend that had a wing as well, you could try his to make sure it's not the battery.
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Brand new battery (free from tmo to replace the dynapack) Everything on the mainboard looks like it is soldered well. There is an internal watch batter though, could that have something to do with it?
dcmtnbkr said:
Brand new battery (free from tmo to replace the dynapack) Everything on the mainboard looks like it is soldered well. There is an internal watch batter though, could that have something to do with it?
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I doubt it. I would guess that's the cmos battery. If that were to go, then your phone wouldn't keep time, but that wouldn't stop your phone from functioning. (I used to work in the service center at a computer store).
maybe its the processor then. sometimes, after it freezes, it artifacts before shutting off
dcmtnbkr said:
maybe its the processor then. sometimes, after it freezes, it artifacts before shutting off
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There is the possibility of you overclocking your phone, and it heated up and could have burned or cracked some solder. It might even be overheating and that's why it reboots. At any rate, it def. sounds like hardware though. Sorry man. You could try to resolder the connections on the board just to make sure, but it sounds like you have a paperweight. Is it under warranty or do you have insurance?
only ever oc'd once, for a few minutes, and not very high (like 267 i think) It's on right now on the power cable (this wouldnt work yesterday) I honestly have no fricken clue whats going on with it.
Is it possible for the battery to completely diminish itself without being used for a day? Before it died on me last, it had a full battery, now it is showing 1% (and charging).
By the way, as I stated above, it is a brand new battery sent to me by tmo.
Dang it all! Stupid thing just shut off again... ARG!!!
dcmtnbkr said:
Dang it all! Stupid thing just shut off again... ARG!!!
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Hey dcmtnbkr. I seem to have the exact same problem with my Wing. It shuts off for no reason, and it does it absolutely randomly. Sometimes it would work for 3hrs straight no matter what i use it for. And other times it shuts off every 30sec. and it takes 3 to 10 tries to turn it back on(most of the times it would not get past the windows mobile welcome screen). I was gonna flash it with the newer Rom, but i'm afraid that the damn thing might shut off during flashing . So i'm stuck. If you find the way to fix it - please let me know.
actually, i just talked to tmo, and apparantly NOW after i told them I'm cancelling when my contract is up, now they can apparantly cover it under manufacturer warranty (as opposed to the last time i called about a week ago) I would call them even if you didnt buy it from them, tell them you dont remember where you bought it, but it was some company online. These phone's arent that old and you may still be under the manufacturers warranty. Also, i would try and flash it back to the original. These phones are very hard to brick, and i would ask around to see if a powerdown in the middle of an upgrade would do it. I just got mine to reflash without a problem.
my wing rstarts itself wen i jus tap the back of it where the battery cover is but it wont restart everytime. anyone have any ides?

Death HTC 8525

My 8525 does not turn on anymore, changed battery several times, let it under charge 2 days, no sign of life in there....should I trow it away or is there hope? Help please I am LOST without it!!!
Try chargin the phone without the battery for about 20 minutes and then insert the battery to see if it'll sprint to life. If not, try a differen outlet or charger. If all fails, don't throw it away, it's not that useless.
Thanks I trying that now,but I do not see any led turning on...keeping fingers crossed!
Were there any other symptoms before hand? Had you had it hooked up to your comp recently before that? Hard reset? Check how snug it meets the gold contacts. Ive seen situations where they get spaced just enough where it wont make contact. Check battery and contacts for buildup (happens over time. had this SAME heartattack awhile back with mine ) Lemme know if you need more help.
Black_Joker said:
Were there any other symptoms before hand? Had you had it hooked up to your comp recently before that? Hard reset? Check how snug it meets the gold contacts. Ive seen situations where they get spaced just enough where it wont make contact. Check battery and contacts for buildup (happens over time. had this SAME heartattack awhile back with mine ) Lemme know if you need more help.
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Hello Black Joker
what do you mean by "buildup"?
1Hard resetted a couple of days before (I am a ROMburner junky
2Turned itself out a couple of times before...
3When I do not use it I always keep it in the craddel hooked up with pc...
All I know is that I replaced the micro SD, put it down and when I pick it up 2minutes later it was death...
Now is under charge without battery...will report later...sig...
By buildup I am referring to this black looking stuff on the gold contacts. It happens over time. Another thing you might try is a different battery. Ive seen em on eBay for a few bucks or try a buddies battery if you know someone w a similar phone. If thats not an option some local cellphone store may have one u can try to see if she comes on. If all else fails, PM me. I would be more than happy to see what else I could do.
I did try everything but no way to wake "her" up...I have sento you a PM black-joker...
Its possible there may have been a surge that fried the internal fuse. That would account for it working then suddenly not with no LED response.
Check out Mike Channon's post for a link to his website, you'll find more info there...
Good luck...
Happy New Year to All..just came back...
Backy to my sorrow..could not find any solution jet!...

Phone stuck on USB/charging... very weird

Hey there. I have my Galaxy S II (GT-I9100) for about a month, and since a couple of days ago it has been behaving very weirdly about USB and charging.
First of all, the phone thinks it has USB connected at all times. When I go to the settings menu try to enable mass storage it says USB is already connected, even though it isn't!!!
Sometimes when I start the phone it goes to that USB Kies screen and says "connected", when absolutaly no cables are connected AT ALL!!!
When I turn the cell off, remove the battery and plug it back in, without turning the phone on, the recharging battery icon appears, but blinks with a drained battery icon with a yellow exclamation sign and a thermometer which I sincerely have no idea what that means.
It also takes ages to recognize the power charger or when I really connect the USB cable. And finally, when I take them off, it also takes a while to "perceive" they're off and remove the charging lightning from the battery icons.
PRETTY PLEASE, SOMEONE HELP ME OUT, as I don't have time to take the phone to service, and didn't really want to do that
Thanks!!!
This has also happened to me and loads of other SGS2 users! Although usually it only happens sporadically and not constantly. It seems that it's a bad soldering job or dust/dirt has gathered in the microUSB port. You might be able to fix it, if you're *really* careful.
Quote from another thread;
JaX3RiR said:
Last night my phone wouldn't even start charging, so I decided to take matters into my own hands. With the smallest screwdriver I could find, I carefully 'lifted' the tiny PCB in the USB jack while blowing in at the same time. Sure enough, some sand particles fell out, and I haven't gotten carmode'd in nearly 13 hours now. Previously it would do it once every 15 minutes. So far so good, it seems.
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Thanks for the help... but what is PCB? Is it the connector inside the "hole"?
Tried that and it stopped thinking USB was connected the whole time... on the other hand, it doesn't detect when I connect the USB cable
Lets try keeping 1 thread
Therere are other threads about it.
Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132588&page=2
StupidIdea said:
Therere are other threads about it.
Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132588&page=2
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You can't talk on plural when you only point out one thread. And I've read that, but it isn't the same as my phone doesn't go in "car mode".
My phone's problem only resembled a problem JaX3RiR briefly mentioned in the middle of the thread.
I tried googling it before posting anything anywhere, but couldn't find anything useful.
Please don't try to look like a smartass like that and embarrass yourself. If you got nothing to add to the thread, it's best if you sit out of it. It's much more appreciated when helpful people like JaX3RiR post...
Hi,had the same problem,tried reflashing back to original firmware,but still had the same problem,,the only way i could boot the phone was through recovery mode,(reboot)Had to send phone back for possible repair??cut a long story short they sent me a new phone,,They said they couldnt repair the fault,something to do with the usb charging system,,So i would advise anyone with this specific problem,to send phone back,and get a replacement..hope you get it solved
Thanks mate, I sent mine today as well... I hope they act the same with me, as I'm afraid customer service around here always tries to incriminate the user not to use the warranty...
ghnogueira said:
You can't talk on plural when you only point out one thread. And I've read that, but it isn't the same as my phone doesn't go in "car mode".
My phone's problem only resembled a problem JaX3RiR briefly mentioned in the middle of the thread.
I tried googling it before posting anything anywhere, but couldn't find anything useful.
Please don't try to look like a smartass like that and embarrass yourself. If you got nothing to add to the thread, it's best if you sit out of it. It's much more appreciated when helpful people like JaX3RiR post...
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There is no reason to be angry, I'm just trying to help, and just wanted that we all post in one thread, so it would be easier to track later.
I just posted longest thread. Here is another one if it helps to justify:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151863
I'm pretty sure you have the same problem. Sometimes Vlingo starts, sometimes phone thinks its charging, when trying to boot it shows battery image and won't boot, can boot only recovery and do restart from there.
Get of the high horse when people are trying to help you.
Are you sure you didn't connect USB cable upside down or bended USB port with the cable?
I have no idea what Vlingo is, and obviously I didn't connect the USB cable upside down. I don't think I bended the port with the cable since it still recognizes the cable for charging or booting and going directly into Kies mode, for example.
I am not on any high horse when people try to help me, as you could see my response towards the guys above. Your post wasn't sounding helpful at all, you were just sounding like "hey, you dumass noobie, don't open a new thread for yourself, check the forums first".
By the way, I also took a look at that thread you posted before posting mine, but I have no idea what is "car mode" on my phone...
Sorry if I sounded rough. I thought it is similar issue, so I posted link to longer thread. I had this issue myself.
Peace. Let us know what the service say .
This happened to me one week ago while on holiday....that temp indicator while charging plus the other stuff you mention....
Plus the phone went into flight mode and won't come out....
Got home and did a reset and phone now doesn't recognise sim card...
great phone but I'm a little disappointed
stevee1953 said:
Hi,had the same problem,tried reflashing back to original firmware,but still had the same problem,,the only way i could boot the phone was through recovery mode,(reboot)Had to send phone back for possible repair??cut a long story short they sent me a new phone,,They said they couldnt repair the fault,something to do with the usb charging system,,So i would advise anyone with this specific problem,to send phone back,and get a replacement..hope you get it solved
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Hello,
Had the same problems aswell, only mine had a bunch of other problems aswell:
When I shut down my mobile it restarts itself and then shows a yellow exclamation mark with an tempgage. Only way to turn on my phone is to connect it with the charger, turn of my phone again, remove the charger and then the phone turned itself on again but without the temp gage.
My phone also thinks its charging when it is not, and when I am actually charging it, its not charging.
Also my PC does not recognize my phone so I am not able to update it.
I have also sent my phone for a repair, I will keep you guys posted.
greets from the netherlands
Yep, mine only got fixed by going into service. It got its mainboard warranty switched.
T- Mobile sent me a replacement phone
They seemed to know the symptoms when I explained what was happening
Same fault for me. Mainboard replaced, works fine now.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
How did you guys get it fixed? Did you have to ship the phone out somewhere? How long did you have to wait to get it back? What was the process?
Thanks.
Mine is going to be repaired in two weeks.
I was the 8th SGS2 since tuesday which came in the repair center.
The repair guy said it is a manifacturing fault.
The phone gets hots, and outside temperature is cold, so it makes moisture in the phone.
This cause the phones power management to get fu up (SGS2 has a small battery inside of it, and that gets fu up). Only fix is replace hardware, but 9 of 10 times Samsung gives the fault to the customer. They say it has water damage and can't be fixed in warrenty...
I'm going to write a huge article about it, and I hope it will get published by a lot of site's soon. Phones he admitted having the problem: SGS1, SGS2 and SGSN.
I charged my GS2 2x by USB and it's discharged faster than by the sector
The USB power isn't enough for charge up the GS2 correctly
Are you guys suffering from rapid battery discharging, i have all of the above symptons but my battery drains within hours...I`ve even bought a brand new battery off ebay that is exacly the same issues... I`d like to send it back to O2 but i`ve rooted and flashed custom firmware...

Feeling smart?Help me solve this..

So the problem is the following: my nex 4 has suddenly stopped charging..it was 2 days ago.The strange part is that when the system runs i can't charge the phone.It looks like the phone recognizes that i put the usb cable into it,but it shows the no charging sign on the battery history menu point (and the battery is discharging).And the twist is: when the phone is fully off and i put the usb into it it charges normally(white accu on black screen)but as soon as i turn on,it stops.
I did hard reset many times...Im on stock 4.3(unlocked bootloader,no root)
I changed the cable.No progress
I use a converter cause here in Hungary we have a two pin system,but this is nothing cause it has always worked.
Btw,the phone runs normally.
Any ideas?
First,I would like to get a solution,not a "RMA it answer",it would be the last option.
Thank you for your time.
My first thought would be to try a wireless charger.
Solutions Etcetera said:
My first thought would be to try a wireless charger.
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This is a second option for me too.It just steps over the problem.But this will be my backup plan.Any further idea would be appreciated.
I've had this exact issue before.
Ended up being a problem with SuperSU.
xantonin said:
I've had this exact issue before.
Ended up being a problem with SuperSU.
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I have no root at all.And also did hard reset as well.
lowert said:
I have no root at all.And also did hard reset as well.
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If you have tried a full hard reset then its probably a hardware issue, not a software one. Try a different charger anyways, that could be it. Or like you've said, RMA or if your feeling brave you can open the phone up to see if anything battery related is loose/disconnected
22sl22 said:
If you have tried a full hard reset then its probably a hardware issue, not a software one. Try a different charger anyways, that could be it. Or like you've said, RMA or if your feeling brave you can open the phone up to see if anything battery related is loose/disconnected
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Yes this was my first thought too.I just wanted to stay away from this thing,it's a little bit tricky when the phone is from England and I'm a thousand km away.But looks like I have no choice.Thanks for the confirmation.Any thoughts about the RMA?Will they repair it?Or Changing it?
lowert said:
Yes this was my first thought too.I just wanted to stay away from this thing,it's a little bit tricky when the phone is from England and I'm a thousand km away.But looks like I have no choice.Thanks for the confirmation.Any thoughts about the RMA?Will they repair it?Or Changing it?
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You can try. Ring up google in hungary and see if they will do it. Otherwise you would have to find someone you know in the uk to return it.
One other thing, have you tried charging from a pc, not the mains? You could try that
lowert said:
So the problem is the following: my nex 4 has suddenly stopped charging..it was 2 days ago.The strange part is that when the system runs i can't charge the phone.It looks like the phone recognizes that i put the usb cable into it,but it shows the no charging sign on the battery history menu point (and the battery is discharging).And the twist is: when the phone is fully off and i put the usb into it it charges normally(white accu on black screen)but as soon as i turn on,it stops.
I did hard reset many times...Im on stock 4.3(unlocked bootloader,no root)
I changed the cable.No progress
I use a converter cause here in Hungary we have a two pin system,but this is nothing cause it has always worked.
Btw,the phone runs normally.
Any ideas?
First,I would like to get a solution,not a "RMA it answer",it would be the last option.
Thank you for your time.
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Hi, I Do think the converter does not meet the specifications, if your device is off it generates just enough power to trigger the charge-regulator in your nexus4 and the phone is charging; if it is switched on, the phone drains so much power from your battery and/or charging unit that there is not enough voltage/mA-Load to switch the charge-regulator in your nexus4 to "On". The power provided by a converter is no sinus wave, it has irregular spikes and waves and this might over the time-being has "weakened" your Nexus- Charger or the charging controller in your phone.. Try another converter/charger combination if possible with a converter with pure sinus-wave output.
By "Hard reset" do you mean a "factory reset"?
I have an issue when the phone temporarily stopped charging, but it was a particular rom.
You can try buying a charging board replacement from ebay: http://www.ebay.com/sch/?_nkw=nexus%204%20usb%20charging%20replacement
greg17477 said:
By "Hard reset" do you mean a "factory reset"?
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This. If you just went into settings and hit factory reset, it just wipes data, not the system. Try downloading the google images (Or wait for the KitKat OTA)
22sl22 said:
You can try. Ring up google in hungary and see if they will do it. Otherwise you would have to find someone you know in the uk to return it.
One other thing, have you tried charging from a pc, not the mains? You could try that
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Okay,News...not charging from computer neither...it doesnt even recognizes it so I cant acces it trough computer.I will try with a different charger,but no chance this would be the problem

is my Battery Busted or my phone?

So today my Likely 1 month old S5 showed the unpleasant behavior to not charge...
Well yes i tunred it on and of
And yes i took out the Battery fpr more than 5 minutes
and yes i Tryed another Charger.
It sumes up to no, no, no and no,
But i Noticed that if i turn it off and plug in the Charger it´s Pulsing sometimes there is a Battery with a Exclamation Mark in the Middle.
So anyone who can help me? is it a softwar thing or a Hardware? i got still Warranty on this little piece of... I realy Considering buying an HTC one M8 or a Sony Xpreia Z2 instead....
Thanks for your help in Advance
Greetings Darkmind
Darkmind82 said:
So today my Likely 1 month old S5 showed the unpleasant behavior to not charge...
Well yes i tunred it on and of
And yes i took out the Battery fpr more than 5 minutes
and yes i Tryed another Charger.
It sumes up to no, no, no and no,
But i Noticed that if i turn it off and plug in the Charger it´s Pulsing sometimes there is a Battery with a Exclamation Mark in the Middle.
So anyone who can help me? is it a softwar thing or a Hardware? i got still Warranty on this little piece of... I realy Considering buying an HTC one M8 or a Sony Xpreia Z2 instead....
Thanks for your help in Advance
Greetings Darkmind
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Take it in for repair mate, it could be the battery, usb charging port or even your phone. No way we can tell from here. Btw i think the S5 is a great device, you`re just unlucky, it can happen sometimes.
gee2012 said:
Take it in for repair mate, it could be the battery, usb charging port or even your phone. No way we can tell from here. Btw i think the S5 is a great device, you`re just unlucky, it can happen sometimes.
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thanks for reply. does it matter rthat i rooted it with towelroot?
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thanks for reply. does it matter rthat i rooted it with towelroot?
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To be sure try to unroot in the TR/superSU app, flash a stock rom and data factory reset.
As the follow up reply above suggests, you need to start by separating software from hardware issues. You can probably find out a lot more information by looking at the system log i.e. run a logcat to get more verbose details about the charging error. Depending on what you find there, you could proceed to steps such as resetting the battery stats or the suggestions that follow in this post.
If you aren't willing to do a logcat then the first thing that you should try is booting to recovery mode and wipe the system cache That may well resolve your issue right there.
If not, then heed the advice in the previous post. Backup anything important to you, then flash a 100% stock ROM, followed by a factory data reset. If that resolves the issue then the cause was almost certainly corrupt system files or settings.
If the problem still remains, then you have to start looking at hardware causes, starting with trying a different cable, different battery, gently rocking the cable in the USB socket at the base of the phone to try and discern if the pins are bent or making irregular contact, etc.
Whether the problem would be repaired free of charge under warranty is uncertain as we don't know yet if the cause is an unexpected failure or something that might be attributed to abuse e.g. dropped phone or damage to the USB port from rough use.
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