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speed and response on vista at shift is really slow.
any chance to install xp on it?
This is something I am interested in as well.
I am ordering a HTC shift today when it arrives I try and will make a image of the hardrive/vista and then try loading XP to see.
Just go ahead and load XP, you can always restore Vista from the hidden backup partition on the drive.
Bear in mind that HTC are unwilling to release the needed drivers for Vista, let alone XP.
XP Tablet Edition
I have already done this and it's a breeze.
However you have no functionality for touch as the drivers are not there.
But on XP you have 800MB RAM free and it's like lightening...
Let's hope we can get XP drivers for the touch screen, i can live without the snapvue and control etc and without the origami thing, but i have gone back to vista due to the lack of touch ability.
Regards
Blitz
Was the touch pad working in xp? as that might be livable. It should be possible to sort out a dual boot then we can have the three operating systems on the one device, vista, winxp and windows mobile.
dual boot
tried that by partitioning drive in two but it breaks vista,you need to install xp then vista but you can't do that either as you miss the builtin drivers for vista.
the mousepad worked fine
besides the touch screen, is there any other hardware component that does NOT work under XP? i was under the impression that lacking XP drivers, a bunch of stuff did not work.
blitzspear said:
tried that by partitioning drive in two but it breaks vista,you need to install xp then vista but you can't do that either as you miss the builtin drivers for vista.
the mousepad worked fine
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Hey blitzspear, I have managed to get XP working alongside the HTC vista oem install. First you boot into in to vista and shrink the current drive c using disk management mmc, then reboot into xp install using usb cd. After XP completes Copy bootsect.exe from the boot folder of a Windows Vista DVD and paste it into your Windows XP Windows\system32 folder. Then in XP CMD issue the following command bootsect /NT60 ALL. Ok now the only issue I have is getting all the drivers, where did you get the drivers from? I have downloaded the XP drivers for the graphics card ironically the file is called winvista_1523.exe althoughintel webpage assures that this driver covers vista xp 2k etc. but it dont work! So just wondering if you could point me in the right direction
Drivers
Sadly I didn't find them all...
Only ones are the intel VGA (which disables some of the resolutions)
A usb network and sound and the synaptics mousepad.
The rest were missing which is why i'm back on vista.
Regards
Blitz
PS - I think if we get SD / wifi / GPS / in WM6 this will do what i need it to do and then i'll keep vista when plugged in so i can have it on best performance instead of balanced mode. This may be the best compromise for many people.
But in my opinion HTC could have made this SOOOO much better if they'd put Tablet XP on it... or gave us 2GB of RAM in VISTA...
Device Manager?
Can you guys post a list of devices that were not installed correctly when in XP? I see that the touch screen doesn't work...do we have other devices that were not identified or functioning properly in the device manager?
If we can identify the devices maybe the chipset manufacturer can supply drivers, etc.
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Can you guys post a list of devices that were not installed correctly when in XP? I see that the touch screen doesn't work...do we have other devices that were not identified or functioning properly in the device manager?
If we can identify the devices maybe the chipset manufacturer can supply drivers, etc.
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I actually got most of the devices working (HTC ones)by searching the inf directory of the original Vista installer. However touchscreen is not identified or does not work, the SDIO Wifi card is not seen by XP at all, although BT works
Hello everyone,
i upgraded my shift to vista ultimate 32.
After 2/3 hours of installation everythings work well.
BUT the touchscreen seems disabled. rebooted but is already disabled. tried to change tablet and pen imput. but nothing..
it continue to be disabled.
In the same time i upgraded an hp tablet to vista ultimate and also in it tablet functionality is disabled.
But going in msconfig i saw that wacom service is disabled. enabled it, rebooted and tablet funcionality was reabilited. well!
I'm sad. Whit my splendid shift don't find nothing. no driver, no disabled software (i don't know the name of the software who manage tablet function).
Noone knows something about?
Many thank to all.
Ema from Italy..
Have you tried "C:\Program Files\HTC\AI_VISTA\setup.exe"? This starts the HTC Shift Final Installation. It helped me after SP1.
And there is the "WQindows to standard" button in ShagControl.
Whatever that does....
Axel
not tried, now i'm using the recovered business edition, but i'm going to upgrade to ultimate and try your suggestion.
Thanks
pitt1983 said:
not tried, now i'm using the recovered business edition, but i'm going to upgrade to ultimate and try your suggestion.
Thanks
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we will try to be getting everyone the true vista drivers needed for the device once the project gets in the devices. so sit bac and relax until then. we will also be working on booting other os'es
pitt1983 said:
Hello everyone,
i upgraded my shift to vista ultimate 32.
After 2/3 hours of installation everythings work well.
BUT the touchscreen seems disabled. rebooted but is already disabled. tried to change tablet and pen imput. but nothing..
it continue to be disabled.
In the same time i upgraded an hp tablet to vista ultimate and also in it tablet functionality is disabled.
But going in msconfig i saw that wacom service is disabled. enabled it, rebooted and tablet funcionality was reabilited. well!
I'm sad. Whit my splendid shift don't find nothing. no driver, no disabled software (i don't know the name of the software who manage tablet function).
Noone knows something about?
Many thank to all.
Ema from Italy..
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Hi there,
How did you install Ultimate?
I have copied the contents of a Windows Vista Ultimate installation DVD to a 4GB SD card and used that to upgrade to Ultimate.
The thing is that the Shift can't boot from SD (or can it??) so I didn't get to format the hard drive, which I wanted.
ultimate
i've used an external dvd and installed with the vista dvd. like a normal pc.
pitt1983 said:
i've used an external dvd and installed with the vista dvd. like a normal pc.
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yep i believe this is the best solution.
pitt1983 said:
Hello everyone,
i upgraded my shift to vista ultimate 32.
After 2/3 hours of installation everythings work well.
BUT the touchscreen seems disabled. rebooted but is already disabled. tried to change tablet and pen imput. but nothing..
it continue to be disabled.
In the same time i upgraded an hp tablet to vista ultimate and also in it tablet functionality is disabled.
But going in msconfig i saw that wacom service is disabled. enabled it, rebooted and tablet funcionality was reabilited. well!
I'm sad. Whit my splendid shift don't find nothing. no driver, no disabled software (i don't know the name of the software who manage tablet function).
Noone knows something about?
Many thank to all.
Ema from Italy..
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hey have you seen this post :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374885
he has been able to get the touch screen working .. maybe you could try what he said but "upgrading" and not "formatting" the old vista business edition.
Downloading SP1....
I know there have been threads on here b4 regarding this but not for a while.
How many people are using SP1 and would you recommend it?
Cheers
Not running it here. And all works well, for the most part.
running it and all works well
Does unlock of WM6 work with SP1 without any issues?
Vista SP1 + WM6
WM6 works, not without issues, but I have no reason to think the issues have anything to do with SP1. The (liberated) SnapVue side is a pretty toy, but there's not enough memory, and it is managed too ungracefully, for it to be of any real use to me. And absence of access to the phone, GPS, SD, and external USB hardware that are already there is really disgraceful!
PLEASE DON'T THINK OF THIS AS A FOR SALE AD .. It is not .. Too many things I need to re-discover before listing.
I am in the final stages of getting ready to sell my HTC Shift. Maybe. I don't even know what to ask. It is at my office so I don't remember ALL the details. PLUS I see that people are installing Windows 8 on theirs and MAYBE I might want to try that before selling mine. I have the Windows 8 from the Developers convention Samsung Tablet and I like it .. Like it a lot !!
I guess I have come here to ask what a fair price would be for mine and should I try to install the Windows 8?? Or is that still very touch and go with the drivers etc.
It has Full windows mobile w/ the added telephone capability. Another worry. If I reformat or upgrade will I lose the telephone? I use T-Mobile and my connection is Edge. I don't know what you get with an AT&T sim card.
It is the model with the permanent case that screws on. I have taken it off because I also have the Mugen Extended Battery and the case didn't fit well with that battery on .. I still have the original battery and the screw on case as well. I don't know how long either battery is holding a charge. I don't think the life is very bad.
The Shift has also had the drive upgraded. I am thinking it is maybe 100 gigs. But I could be wrong .. something else to check.
I have upgraded the O/S to Vista or maybe Windows 7 ...See .. I can't even say for sure what operating system is installed. I haven't turned it on in months.
I am thinking that when I reformat I will MAYBE lose all the drivers etc so I may as well try installing Windows 8 .. or not . ... Maybe if and when someone buys it they will want it the way it is and they can reformat or whatever ..
Any comments on the pros or cons of Windows 8?? I am really lost .. I just know I have too many computers and too many gadgets and some of them need to go away !! Mostly I don't want my data left on the computer but I don't want the hassle of refomatting and then trying to install drivers etc. I can hardly find time to gather the necessary info and list it ..
Diane
What is wrong with you!!!!
Dear Buddy, The HTC X9500 Shift is a umpc or/and tablet!!! (Ultimate Mobile Personal Computer)This Device rocks!!!! step 1: did you custom the wm side. Step 2: did you split the partition for windows xp and windows 7 ultimate??? did you upgrade the rams to 2gb ram???
did you upgrade the hdd to at least 100gb if you did this all you shift is on fire!!!!!! speed on the internet is good!!! wifi is strong,bluetooth is strong! touch screen with a pen or fingers is good!!! allow's to a plasma or lcd monitor is good!!!! (VGA Connectors)
So what else you asking for a sam**** tablet.
Plus do you know the the ubuntu works excellent with the HTC X9500 shift???? hmmmm....
>> did you custom the wm side.
YES .. It is FULL Windows Mobile and Phone.
>> did you split the partition for windows xp and windows 7 ultimate???
NO .. Just upgraded XP to either Vista or 7 .. don't remember which
>> did you upgrade the rams to 2gb ram???
No .. Don't remember if the ram has been upgraded. I didn't work on it myself most of the time a friend did.
>> did you upgrade the hdd to at least 100gb
YES ...
>> touch screen with a pen or fingers is good!!!
Samsung Tablet (Slate) works with finger or Wacom stylus
>> Plus do you know the the ubuntu works excellent with the HTC X9500 shift???? hmmmm....
What's an ubuntu ???
Will I guess you are a average computer geek....
because Ubuntu is a linux O.S that is much more secured then windows.. Plus it is much faster then windows... Plus again, Ubuntu is the maker of android, who created it for a free open source!!!!
Just stumbled on this thread as I found my Shift at the back of a cupboard a few days ago and was wondering what it was worth. I've flashed the WM side but the other side is still Vista (ugh).
More toys to play with. Hoorah!
I want a Shift so much.... Any ideas on sales? (Mods dont kill me)
1saleaday has it for 199.99 today only...
The Shift Continues to impress me.
I re ghosted a fresh Windows 7 installation to get better performance out of it.
I just installed Ubunuti Wubi and linked it to my smartphone bluetooth modem for wireless internet.
And the WM side gives me an instant notepad with a decent keyboard.
Combined with a smartphone, it's a winner all round.
Hey guys, not sure if there are many people here but I'm looking for some help. I recently bought a shift off ebay because I like the cool sliding form-factor and collecting old palm tops in general. When I got it it had vista on it. It also had a lot of garbage and porn on it from the previous seller who claimed it was mint... that's another story. I ran into some problems with it and tried to reinstall vista. Then I decided to throw windows 10 on it instead thinking it would make it run better.
Unfortunately windows 10 has slowed it down to a crawl. I can't get anything done on it. It's using up a lot of processing power to the point that the device gets hot and abruptly shuts down. I don't know what I was expecting really, it only has an 800mhz proc. Have any of you guys gotten 10 to run smoothly? I'd appreciate any advice. Thanks.
Hi,
There are a number of Windows 10 performance tips in the thread titled "[GUIDE] Installing Windows 10 Technical Preview on the HTC Shift, especially in the final couple of pages.
I'm running Windows 10 on my Shift, and despite my best efforts, it still runs very slow, but good enough for running efficient applications such as Evernote, OneDrive and Word.
My Shift gets hot but it has never suffered from overheating. Perhaps your fan is faulty. Can you hear the fan running?
Hi guys, i was always fanatic for ultra mobile pc´s, i had some vaio P, and now i bought a HTC shift, just spent 50 euros in it, so it is a bargain
I have some questions here:
1- guy who sold me told me that wifi don´t work in windows 8 ( os installed), it needs some driver to work in windows 8/10? or it´s not possible to enable wifi?
2- when i receive the shift should i format all partions and make a new install of win 10? the owner told me that hd is 60gb and have 2 partitions
3- so for what i understand, there is the windows mode and then the windows mobile mode? they are installed in diferent partitions? how does this work?
thank you
i made a clean install of win 10, win 10 is very slow for shift.... all was working less wifi, it wasn´t detecting my home network
made a clean install of win 7 home premium, all smooth and quick, fast boot time, all things are working including touchscreen and wifi
in windows 7 i cant acess 3g dont know why
another problem is that when i press windows mobile key, i only get a black screen, what is the problem?
thank you
ps. for browsing i recimend slim jet browser, really fast and smoother, and very good to use with finger
I take it by now that you have learned that only the windows side uses the HDD (and bluetooth and the SD card). The Windows Mobile side is not connected to any of these (although it is connect to Windows and so can potentially access them if Windows is running).
If 3G is not working in Windows 7, have you run the "Shift Control Centre" to ensure that "Modem" is ON?
When I installed Windows 10 on my HTC Shift from a bootable USB drive created with the "Windows Media Creator" application, I performed a new installation after first deleting all of the partitions on the hard drive. This included the factory default Vista recovery partition, which I will never need, and I'd rather have the extra Gbs of storage.
There was a 2GB RAM module you could buy for it. Also, could you put an SSD inside it to speed it up?
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There was a 2GB RAM module you could buy for it. Also, could you put an SSD inside it to speed it up?
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You can buy a 2gb module in eBay but they are very expensive
About SSD you can use it, dont know wich modelo, but its possible, but this laptop have slow processor and bad graphic, so, i dont recomend this investment at all
I've got two Shifts. One with liberated Snapvue, 2GB Ram and 128GB SSD.
Had Windows7 installed, but then tried Win10. The first Beta versions made shift run like a charm, but with each update it became slower. I then returned to Vista with AeroDesign and 3d gimmicks disabled. Now runs pretty good, fast enough and stable.
The second Shift also runs Vista. Unfortunately i'm not able to liberate its Mobile side, as it refuses to receive emails although 3G is working fine. Strange thing: though not liberated, Vista is able to use the 3G modem.
windows 7 runs ok in shift, for me it´s the best os
Running Windows 10 on my Shift. I disabled certain things such as background apps, superfetch, and Windows search.
I wonder how much impact the future Meltdown and Spectre mitigation updates will have on my poor stock HTC Shift...
Wow! Started reading this thread and I cant believe I fired up my Shift. Running Windows 8 on it. It took 30 minutes for Windows defender to update . Updating Windows now. ANyone know where I can find an inexpensive battery?
Thanks
try ebay
search for htc x9500 or htc shift
btw
win 7 is the best os for this machine
Battery
Search htc shift in ebay and some will appear. Not cheap cicra £20-30 but probably not a deal breaker either.
I have used kingspec 1.8 inch 128 gb ssd's in other devices and they work well. Their speed depends upon the interface required, if ide then this will be the bottleneck. As for the original hdd they are one of the slowest ever made and were redesigned for media player usage!
Slow down windows 10 on a 1 CPU 800mHz 1gb or 2gb?
Answer this question first!!!