Vista SP1 - Update - Shift General

Downloading SP1....
I know there have been threads on here b4 regarding this but not for a while.
How many people are using SP1 and would you recommend it?
Cheers

Not running it here. And all works well, for the most part.

running it and all works well

Does unlock of WM6 work with SP1 without any issues?

Vista SP1 + WM6
WM6 works, not without issues, but I have no reason to think the issues have anything to do with SP1. The (liberated) SnapVue side is a pretty toy, but there's not enough memory, and it is managed too ungracefully, for it to be of any real use to me. And absence of access to the phone, GPS, SD, and external USB hardware that are already there is really disgraceful!

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windows mobile device centre 6.1

hi all,
my vista laptop has just updated wmdc to version 6.1, it also updated HTC USB Sync.
what i'd like to know is whether vista can now easily update roms on the trinity. i've read the workaround that's available by putting activesync drivers into vista but would prefer a 'standard' way of doing it (i'm very unlucky when it comes to not damaging expensive electronics)
thanks in advance

Vista Activesync Problem - Help Needed

Hi Everyone,
I am having massive troubles getting Windows Mobile Device Centre under Vista to sync with my HTC TyTn which I have just upgraded to WM6. I had sync issues before the upgrade and now Im at my wits end.
Simply put the device wont sync!! It worked well the first time and I have been having issues since. There seems to be some sort of driver conflict, but I'm not even certain of this because the computer isnt giving me any real message or feedback. One noticeable thing that happens consistantly is that after an attempted sync my Fusion HDTV Card no longer works! The card is a PCI card but seems to consume USB ports...so I'm a little uncertain as to what is happening there??
Anyone have any ides?
Brant

Shift'n'Vista Ultimate

Hello everyone,
i upgraded my shift to vista ultimate 32.
After 2/3 hours of installation everythings work well.
BUT the touchscreen seems disabled. rebooted but is already disabled. tried to change tablet and pen imput. but nothing..
it continue to be disabled.
In the same time i upgraded an hp tablet to vista ultimate and also in it tablet functionality is disabled.
But going in msconfig i saw that wacom service is disabled. enabled it, rebooted and tablet funcionality was reabilited. well!
I'm sad. Whit my splendid shift don't find nothing. no driver, no disabled software (i don't know the name of the software who manage tablet function).
Noone knows something about?
Many thank to all.
Ema from Italy..
Have you tried "C:\Program Files\HTC\AI_VISTA\setup.exe"? This starts the HTC Shift Final Installation. It helped me after SP1.
And there is the "WQindows to standard" button in ShagControl.
Whatever that does....
Axel
not tried, now i'm using the recovered business edition, but i'm going to upgrade to ultimate and try your suggestion.
Thanks
pitt1983 said:
not tried, now i'm using the recovered business edition, but i'm going to upgrade to ultimate and try your suggestion.
Thanks
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we will try to be getting everyone the true vista drivers needed for the device once the project gets in the devices. so sit bac and relax until then. we will also be working on booting other os'es
pitt1983 said:
Hello everyone,
i upgraded my shift to vista ultimate 32.
After 2/3 hours of installation everythings work well.
BUT the touchscreen seems disabled. rebooted but is already disabled. tried to change tablet and pen imput. but nothing..
it continue to be disabled.
In the same time i upgraded an hp tablet to vista ultimate and also in it tablet functionality is disabled.
But going in msconfig i saw that wacom service is disabled. enabled it, rebooted and tablet funcionality was reabilited. well!
I'm sad. Whit my splendid shift don't find nothing. no driver, no disabled software (i don't know the name of the software who manage tablet function).
Noone knows something about?
Many thank to all.
Ema from Italy..
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Hi there,
How did you install Ultimate?
I have copied the contents of a Windows Vista Ultimate installation DVD to a 4GB SD card and used that to upgrade to Ultimate.
The thing is that the Shift can't boot from SD (or can it??) so I didn't get to format the hard drive, which I wanted.
ultimate
i've used an external dvd and installed with the vista dvd. like a normal pc.
pitt1983 said:
i've used an external dvd and installed with the vista dvd. like a normal pc.
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yep i believe this is the best solution.
pitt1983 said:
Hello everyone,
i upgraded my shift to vista ultimate 32.
After 2/3 hours of installation everythings work well.
BUT the touchscreen seems disabled. rebooted but is already disabled. tried to change tablet and pen imput. but nothing..
it continue to be disabled.
In the same time i upgraded an hp tablet to vista ultimate and also in it tablet functionality is disabled.
But going in msconfig i saw that wacom service is disabled. enabled it, rebooted and tablet funcionality was reabilited. well!
I'm sad. Whit my splendid shift don't find nothing. no driver, no disabled software (i don't know the name of the software who manage tablet function).
Noone knows something about?
Many thank to all.
Ema from Italy..
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hey have you seen this post :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374885
he has been able to get the touch screen working .. maybe you could try what he said but "upgrading" and not "formatting" the old vista business edition.

Pb with my USB cable

Hello!
I'm quite a newbie in the whole HTC world, so please answer with simple words!
Here is my problem : my HTC just wouldn't "see" my PC (neither under XP nor under Vista) when I plug the USB cable. Of course, I have already tried to reinstall ActiveSync (XP) or Sync Stuffcenter (Vista), but it doesn't work.
The battery is still charging so I assume that the cable is not broken...
Do you know if the USB cable HAS to be the HTC one? (I might currently be trying to use a Canon or Nikon one, initially designed for a digital camera...)
Any other idea?
Thanks,
Ced
on your htc try going to
1º- settings:
2º- system:
3º- then go were it say´s usb to pc
4º- there you will find a box ,if it has a check on it then uncheck it ,but if it
dont have a check on it then check it
5º- have fun with your device
In alternative....
...Make sure that activesync is talking to the USB port: On the windows PC, open activesync and look in the menu File-->Connection settings. Make sure that "Allow USB Connections" is ticked.
By the way, i don't understand why but once in a while this checkbox becomes unticked without reason....do you have the same?
Thanks for your answers, but it still isn't working...
@pzucchel : on Vista, ActiveSync does not exist I think... and on Sync Center, there is no such thing as "allow USB connections..."
@LAMM44 : the case was unchecked, so I checked it, and here, miracle, my computer shows me a window telling me that it is uninstalling something... ... ...and then... ...nothing! The PDA doesn't have a letter, this bl..dy SyncCenter does not see anything, ...
Thanks anyway, if you have any other suggestion?
Any service which might not be running and should be activated on Vista? (I don't think so, because it is not working on XP either)
Any thoughts about this USB cable thing?( Do you know if the USB cable HAS to be the HTC one? (I might currently be trying to use a Canon or Nikon one, initially designed for a digital camera...))
Ced
EDIT : the "uninstalling" thing was about Windows Mobile Device Center. When I run this program, I can see the "allow USB connections" case, which is checked... but with the case on the PDA checked or not (the one with the advanced network stuff), WM Device Center still says that the mobile device is not connected...
I can confirm you can use Any USB cable (i am presently using one from Garmin) - even through USB routers. You are right - my comment on the USB port was related to win XP. BTW, are you sure you are using an up-to-date activesync?
I have downloaded the last one on XP yesterday... But not on my computer (mine works with vista).
I can try to update Vista WM device Center... but this should have worked on XP!
Thanks for the answer about the USB cable... It seems to be a pb on my HTC then. I went through all the menus but don't see anything relevant...
...did you consider a hard reset? of course, not having activesync you cannot back up- but maybe you can use the sd card.
are you using active sync 4.5? do you have an original rom?
Yes, I wanted to do a hard reset... but not without backing up my contact and SMS!
Would you know where these are stored in the memory? (if I could just copy/paste a folder on the SD card, then I could reinstall windows mobile completely...)
I tried ActiveSync 4.5 on XP yesterday yes. I have never reinstalled WM, so I am a bit lost... What is an original ROM? If it is a DVD of WM or something, I have to search, I am not even sure I have it... I think I have the initial HTC DVD, but is there WM on it? Certainely...
BTW, would you advise me to install WM6 instead of WM5? Is it faster? And a last question : what does "ROM Tnyynt 015 (CE OS 5.2.20273 Build 20273.1.3.3) " mean? (I must admit that I don't understand I mere word of the Trinity wiki... what is a kitchen ROM for instance???)
OK, a few things to be explained!
you probably bought your trinity and it comes with an ORIGINAL rom inside it, that should be more or less working. For example, initial roms didn't even allow to use the internal GPS, that was installed but not usable because of software issues.
I don't know where you live or where you bought it, but typically your telephone company or the seller (dopod, HTC, Qtek) provide regional upgrades and improvements of the operating system (windows mobile) and of the radio rom (the one controlling WiFi, GSM, GPS, Bluetooth, etc.). Sometimes it is the case, sometimes they forget about you since you bought it and they got their money - bye bye!!!!
Then....comes XDA-Developers!
here, we generate our own operating systems and improve further the possibilities of the various systems. For example, many of us are using Windows mobile 6.0 and 6.1 on the trinity, we can switch a french telephone into an english telephone, unlock the telephone to be used in any country, etc.etc.
A telephone is much more powerful than a PC 10 years ago: in terms of processor, graphics, memory, I/O. Not a surprise that, as a PC, software can be improved. Believe me (it is at least three years i am following this): the speed, functionality and performances of the telephone can greatly improve!!! I am using the rom cooked by TNYYNT, version 15, which is based on windows mobile 6.1 and a very recent release (build) of it.
Main negative consequence of installing a cooked rom: don't expect that warranty will be valid!
Said this, a warning: you do it at your own risk. Therefore my suggestion is READ before you do things. Now your activesync problem is minor, but making the wrong upgrade could block your telephone. Nothing is "forever", but a badly stuck telephone requires good skill to recovery it.
So, step by step: is anything else working in your system? if so, i would concentrate in this active-sync problem only, for the time being.
If you would be intrigued in learning more and play with your P3600 (or P3600i, there are actually two models!) then be preparred in reading a lot on this forum! in this case, start from here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Trinity
I hope i was able to make things a bit clearer for you, don't hesitate in asking more.
i see it right now: to backup your contacts and SMS, without activesync, you can do it with this program called pimbackup that is described in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
you could download it directly from the telephone (or send it by email), save the installation program onto the minisd and save the contacts/sms onto the minisd card (Storage card). Then, after the hard reboot, you will have to reinstall the pimbackup and restore the contacts/sms again. is it OK?
Thanks a lot for these explanations! I will try pimbackup tonight.
Actually, I bought my HTC on ebay, and the previous owner had upgraded it to have the radio working, and had installed a lot of softwares and tweaks... But now I would like to choose my own! I understand the principle of the ROM upgrade of course, but I am just a bit lost with all the different ROMs! What is a kitchen ROM, what does "dump the ROM" mean? See, I would need a back-to-basics tutorial!
BTW, is it legal? (I mean, the packed ROMs come with Windows isn't it?) just to know!
Thanks again!
Hi, the fact that there are a lot of tweaks and radio upgrades on your HTC doesn't play much in your favour!
When you are ready, and only when you are ready, go and install Radio Rom 1.56 and the rom TNYYNT 017 (I am ASSUMING you have a P3600 and not a P3600i...right?)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413612
somebody could disagree...but i think it is the best choice!
Concerning the legal aspects, i am not a lawyer but microsoft is well aware of the XDA-Developers site, including HTC and the involved companies. Many of us do believe they use this site for beta-testing....but again, search yourself on the site to know microsoft's opinion...
My argument: I paid for the WM license, I bought the hardware and i would like to have a nicely working system - if they are ready to support their customers they should let us know ;;;;-)
By the way - about your question on the "legality" that made me thinking about it . Read this thread and enjoy it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290190
Whaou, great post about the legality, thanks!
I think I have a 3600 and not a 3600i (I am a bit ashamed, but I don't know how to know this.......), but the fact that the radio wasn't activated when the previous owner bought it seems to mean it was the 3600, no?
Thanks a lot for PIMBackup, it worked perfectely, and really fast!
Now that my backup is done, I'm a bit stuck, because I still haven't solved the USB problem, and I need the connection to download the ROM...
ready for a hard-reset? settings-->Clear Storage (dont worry - it will not clear the minisd...)
just before the hard-reset : do you think my usb connection has any chance of working after that?
EDIT : hard reset done, USB working just fine!!! Thanks a lot!
Now I'm ready to spend hours trying to install install Radio Rom 1.56 and the rom TNYYNT 017.
(do I need to install TNYYNT first?)
EDIT2 : OK, I have installed TNYYNT 017, it's really simple actually, and must faster than my bugged WM5! I haven't tried the radio yet.
Thanks again!
EDIT3 : BTW, would you advise me to install Tomtom 6 or 7? Thanks again!
Answer one: of course i think you have some chance...especially now that i know it works!
Answer two: go for the radio rom...and donate to TNYYNT since he did really a great job. If you try other roms, you will notice the difference (i tried all of them, essentially). The radio rom is also very great in my opinion, and the update is easy.
Answer three: TomTom 7.4 is indeed the best (even better than IGo).
I am happy that it worked out and i was helpful.
Tomtom 7.4?
On tomtom's website, I can only see the 6th version of Tomtom Navigator (http://www.tomtom.com/products/category.php?ID=2&Language=1)
Where could I find the 7th?
Hi again!
I'm quite happy with my installation now, I tweaked a bit starting from TNYYNT 017, then Radio Rom 1.56.
In particular, I followed the instruction of http://www.milow.net/public/projects/windows-mobile-skin.html to have a nice iPhone-like skin.
Now, I would like to make a backup of these few hours!
(I'd like to make make my own ROM, is it "dump the ROM"? if yes, would you have something clearer than http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoDumpRom ?)
I still have one problem, my internet WLAN connection doesn't seem to work (right after the installation of TNYYNT and radio 1.56). My Wifi is seen, the password entered and it says "connected", but when I launch any webpage with internet explorer, it stays at the "locating" stage (first, "Connecting" is written, then "Locating", then... nothing!). Any idea please?
Thanks again for all your help!!!
EDIT : hhhoooo noooo, now I've got this blinking start menu problem!!!!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295816
GGGRRRRRR!!!!!!!!! Well, any suggestion might help a lot!!!

Hermes unable to sync and run out of idea

I know this may sounds like the usual not unchecking the advanced network tick box but I promise I've tried everything to get my hermes to sync and it won't
situation is I've upgraded to a 6.1 ROM and WMDC (Vista Ultimate 32) says connecting (the device is installed on first connection) and then as it gets to the point where it would normally ask you to set up the partnership, it goes back to not connected. The phone has the two arrows still there like it is connected.
I've ruled out most things and have been trawling around the forums but I've just reached a dead end.
I don't think it's the USB as it does the same thing with bluetooth.
I don't think it's the computer because I recently changed my machine (same OS though)
I don't think it's the phone because it's actually a replacement after my screen broke on my original
I even don't think it's the ROM because no one else has this trouble in the thread ([20755] [OPTIMIZED Manilla2d IS HERE!][09/29](AlmostNak3d)(V8))
I've also tried uninstalling WMDC as much as is possbile on Vista and I've tried disabling the windows firewall
It's so frustrating, as I seem to have 6.0 working no probs but that ROM is just so good I have to have it (but with some contacts would be best)
The only thing that I can think of is that I flash the ROMS through an XP machine. This can't be causing the issue can it?
Any help gratefully received. I determined that this phone stays with me until the HD comes out and it really doesn't have long to go now
no one have any suggestions
(or did i post this in the wrong forum)?
Have you tried deleting all partnerships on the phone and computer and then tried to sync it. I have the same rom as you and device and i have problems only when i try to sync via bluetooth. Check the com port for the bluetooth is not conflicting with the WMDC. You could even try disabling the bluetooth comport and see if that makes a difference
If it syncs with an xp machine, why dont you try, exporting the contacts as comma seperated values(windows) and then import them on to the xp machine, at least that way you will have your contacts on the phone.
Also why do you flash with the xp machine and not vista, have you installed all updates in vista?
thanks for the reply SM. Sorry for the delay in my response but I've been sunning in the maldives! I got things going before leaving (so i had some contacts) by doing pretty similar to what you suggested. I sync the xp machine with the vista machine and then sync the phone with the xp machine. I've tried deleting the partnerships on both sides (i've even tried reinstalling vista) but I'll give the removing of the bt com ports a go i think.
my flashing from xp was just a historic thing. i think there may have been an issue with vista once as i was staying away from it for some reason but after my previous post i actually think i did then flash from vista
Upgrade with vista?
Upgrade with vista? its posible I think it has issues...
I can recomend to you...
1.- download again the usb drivers for your Motherboard on XP machine...
2.- Even if you have Windows Vista you can aquire a XP emulator for Win vista and do these things.
3.- If you dont ant to install again the drivers for USB ports so....
restart your PC and your PPC witout unplug your PPC let it boots togheter... it fix my trouble with the same ROM you have...

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