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Hi all.
Just got a JasJam about 2 weeks ago.
I am have a problem with the touch screen.
After about 5 mins of use the touch screen slowly gets more and more unresponsive untill it stops working.
If i remove the battery and let the phone sit for a couple of minutes then restart it the touch screen would start working again. But for only 5 mins.
Is this what everyone is refering to as problems with Screen Allignment or do i have a bigger problem.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this problem.
Thanks
Travis
Personally i would do i hard reset and not install any additional software to see if you have the same problem. If yes, then its hardware problem and needs to be sent in for repair. If not, then install your programs back one by one to find the culprit.
S.K.
EDIT: Ensure you back up your data before performing a hard reset. You will lose all information stored on the phone.
Silent_Killa's advice is what I would do. Might try uninstalling apps one by one first??
This is NOT the screen alignment issue - I don't think. It depends if the screen responsiveness going off is actually at the point at which you tap the screen is not matching where the screen responds?? In other words it does respond but not at the location you tap. If this is happening then it is the SA issue, but if the screen does not respond in any way to taps then I doubt it's the SA problem - though could well be a digitizer issue.
I have not searched, but a week or two weeks ago an identical problem was posted by someone else.
If a hard reset does not cure this I would suggest a return as soon as possible.
Mike
Hey guys.
Yea i trided the whole hard rest thing and it still did the same problem.
The screen works fine but it is just the tapping part that gets screwed up.
All my hardware buttons work ok so i can still use the phone. I just can't use the touch screen.
Do you really thing an application could do this sort of thing.
The main ones i use are -
SPB Diary
SPB Pocket Plus
Spb Weather
Pocket Informant
Are these know to cause any problems.
I will try one more time and not install any apps.
Oh well 2 weeks old and it's off for repair.
Thanks for your help.
Saber_007 said:
Hey guys.
Yea i trided the whole hard rest thing and it still did the same problem.
The screen works fine but it is just the tapping part that gets screwed up.
All my hardware buttons work ok so i can still use the phone. I just can't use the touch screen.
Do you really thing an application could do this sort of thing.
The main ones i use are -
SPB Diary
SPB Pocket Plus
Spb Weather
Pocket Informant
Are these know to cause any problems.
I will try one more time and not install any apps.
Oh well 2 weeks old and it's off for repair.
Thanks for your help.
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BUT surely you tried it for an hour or two before installing anything!!?? And if working then only one application at a time?
No I don't think any of those apps. are the cause of the problem.
You still have not given full details about whether the screen is completely unresponsive or misaligned.
Either way if it's under warranty and hard reset does not cure it, get it returned cos this is not some little software fault.
Mike
Touch screen do not respond
mikechannon said:
I have not searched but a week or two weeks ago an identical problem was posted by someone else. If a hard reset does not cure this I would suggest a return as soon as possible.
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Yes, it was me (I think), I had this problem too. It was only when the keyboard was slided and locked opened. Button would respond but screen would freeze and the start menu, sometimes, would pop up as an extra.
I had to give it back ...
dam said:
Yes, it was me (I think), I had this problem too. It was only when the keyboard was slided and locked opened. Button would respond but screen would freeze and the start menu, sometimes, would pop up as an extra.
I had to give it back ...
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Hope you get it back working this time so you can start to enjoy it!!
Mike
dam said:
Yes, it was me (I think), I had this problem too. It was only when the keyboard was slided and locked opened. Button would respond but screen would freeze and the start menu, sometimes, would pop up as an extra.
I had to give it back ...
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YEP that is exactly what mine does sometimes. After i open the keyboard the start button would start to pop open and close.
How did you get on. Did they tell you what the problem was.
Cheers.
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BUT surely you tried it for an hour or two before installing anything!!?? And if working then only one application at a time?
No I don't think any of those apps. are the cause of the problem.
You still have not given full details about whether the screen is completely unresponsive or misaligned.
Either way if it's under warranty and hard reset does not cure it, get it returned cos this is not some little software fault.
Mike
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Sorry, about that.
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Screen has no problems with SA. After about 5 mins the screen slowly becomes more unresponsibe. IE i would have to tap the start button several times for it to work. When it finially pops open it just closes again almost straight away.
Not long after this the screen will become totally unresponsive, howver all hardware buttons will still work.
I am going to try a hard reset tonight.
I will let you konw.
Thanks again.
Well it is deffinitly my phone.
The screen wasn't working as per normal.
I hard reset my phone. When it rebooted and got to the "tap the screen to continue" bit. Guess what it didn't work.
I taped the screen several time but no go. The screen was dead.
I will have to send it back to the shop.
Cheers.
Travis
wiki update
I took the freedom to update the wiki on this issue :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Problems
well, my device was a second hand but the seller was as so kind as to take it back... nothing for chirstmas this year .
still... happy new year to everybody !
Saber_007 said:
Well it is deffinitly my phone.
The screen wasn't working as per normal.
I hard reset my phone. When it rebooted and got to the "tap the screen to continue" bit. Guess what it didn't work.
I taped the screen several time but no go. The screen was dead.
I will have to send it back to the shop.
Cheers.
Travis
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Fingers crossed you'll get a good one back. I think you were going to have to send this one back anyway.
Mike
JasJam screen responds to "ghost" taps!
The touch screen on my JasJam responds to continuous taps even when I don't tap it. When the keyboard is slid out, the start menu keeps on popping as if the start button on screen is being tapped. When keyboard is slid inside (device is closed), the device behaves as if the OK button (the "X" on top right) is being tapped continuously. Due to this, I can't open any program. (As soon as a program is opened, the "X" button on top right is automatically clicked and I reach Home screen again!
I uploaded a video about this mal-functioning of device:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWAyRLQ01oo
I have already:
1. Alligned screen
2. Hard reset device (Left and Right softkeys + Reset button)
3. Updated ROM and hard reset device
but of no use! Please help.
Read that
it's a hw issue, had to get a replacement ...
Same problem
I seem to be having the exact same problem. When I first got it, I was able to use the phone for a couple of weeks, then all of the sudden, the screen stoped responding, but all the buttons worked. I did a hard reset, and it worked for a little while, then when bad again. At first I thought it was related to ActiveSync because it would always go bad immediately after syncing. However, even when I don't sync after a hard reset it eventually goes bad again. Today I just got it back from manufacturer - they couldn't reproduce the problem. It worked all day. Then I synced. Stupid me. Its not responding again.
There's no way out. Get a replacement.
I'm hoping that my replaced device doesn't have same issue.
same problem
I have the same exact problem. I sent back the Phone to Cingular / HTC, and they "repaired" it under warranty. I got the phone bac, and after a day's use, it went back to its old state.
Since I got this on ebay (BIG mistake), even though it was new, its having this problem.
So far i am not at ALL impressed with the 8525. Seems to me like its laden with hardware issues.
Can someone please offer insight as to what I can do?
Sorry to hear that! I had actually purchased i-mate JasJAM from Dubai. i-mate has just one service center in USA (PocketPCTechs in CA). They provided amazingly great customer service and replaced the main board. So far the problem hasn't repeated.
shassouneh said:
I have the same exact problem. I sent back the Phone to Cingular / HTC, and they "repaired" it under warranty. I got the phone bac, and after a day's use, it went back to its old state.
Since I got this on ebay (BIG mistake), even though it was new, its having this problem.
So far i am not at ALL impressed with the 8525. Seems to me like its laden with hardware issues.
Can someone please offer insight as to what I can do?
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Hey, I am having the same problem as well. Bought my phone on December 06 from eBay seller too. Big mistake as HTC will tell you sorry your warranty is void if you did not purchase the device from the carrier (even though it was new.) I am curious how you were able to get it repaired under warranty since you too bought yours from a third party.
I did the credit card trick and it worked flawlessly for about two months and just yesterday I am back to the same problem. After today doing the credit card trick numerous times I finally got the touch screen working now but who knows for how long this time.
BTW my serial number is in the HT642Fxxxxxx if anyone else that has this problem wants to compare and post theirs.
Facing the same problems...
... I've been thinking about repalcing the display and the touchscreen. But now, considering that it is a HW issue, I can only replace these two things. If the bug is in the module above the screen (statur leds and camera) or related to the wireing at the back of the screen, it won't get rid of the problem. On the other hand, if it is a problem with the screen getting too hot, then I'm on the right track...
Has anyone tried this yet?
I'll try to call HTC on monday, maybe they know where the bug is.
My Wizard is brand new first off and I haven't done anything to it but install the t-mobile cabs, a spb program, and a few other random things.
Problem (It just started doing this): I can align the screen and it will stay right and aligned for a few minutes but then when i write on it the alignment will eventually veer off on the right side just a little bit. When I pick it up at first normally it writes fine and then it starts acting crazy, sometimes it will write somewhere completely different than where the pen is on the screen, or when I go to press a button it will press the one under or over (mis-aligned). I can even write on the screen and the cursor will go completely crazy and all over the place when I'm trying to draw a straight line. I searched for firmware updates and topics on the issue and didn't find anything.
Any help is appreciated,
Thanks
I had a iPAQ that started doing this after a few weeks. I had to send it in for a replacement. Call T-Mobile about it.
My 8125 (wizard) does this every once in a while. If I let it sit for about a minute then it seems fine. I think it is pbar program that is doing it. Just haven't removed it yet to find out.
You might want to do a hard reset to bring it back to the way it was when you got it and use it for a few days to see if that does it.
Yeah I have actually read up on the topic now and it's a known issue.
It's mostly a hardware issue, so I've narrowed it down to the screen being a little bent. Just a tad.
When you take your finger and rub it over where it's bent or just across the screen in general sometimes it fixes this error. That's about the best fix i've found yet that actually works.
This is driving me nuts too
Hi!
I have a Cingular 8125. Bought it in Nov 2006.
I have been facing a problem with the alignment as well since the past week.
1) Whenever I try to tap the target, nothing happens. I have to do a soft reset to start using the phone again.
2) Have hard reset the phone twice in the past week, but the problem still persists.
3) If I am adding a new contact, wherever I press an alphabet, the 4th or 5th key to the left of what I press gets displayed.
If anyone can help, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks.
Fix Screen alignment
Hi,
It happens to my 8125 each time I turn it on. The only way that I could solve the problem is disassembling the unit and remove the front cover. Clean the borders of the touch screen and remove any particle. It solved the problem.
I just flashed my girls 8525 and her joypad, softkeys, phone keys aren't responding anymore. They were responding at first, so I just figured a hard reset would do it. But it's still not working. The top message and IE button works though. Also, when I slide the phone open the softkeys there work. I can't even hard reset the phone.
Can you Reflash the phone? Maybe just a bad install.
chipsxj said:
Can you Reflash the phone? Maybe just a bad install.
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Did that already...still not working
I think my phone is having the same problems as yours.
None of the physical buttons on the bottom of my phone are working. My scroll wheel works fine, as do the Power, Comm, and Camera buttons, and all on-screen "buttons" work, but it's like the bottom group of physical buttons on the phone are not responding. It's been somewhat intermittent, but now they're basically not working at all. I can't even hang up the phone with the End key, or activate the dialing pad with my Phone key.
I had done all of the WM6 Cingular upgrades from the Cingular website, and it seems my problems started shortly after that.
Just this morning, I ran the "Clear Storage" command, and now my system is running WM6, Build 18128.0.4.4, ROM version 3.62.502.3, ROM date 10/11/07
Have you tried flashing back to the ROM you had before that was working?
If it is not ROM related.......I would fear some hardware issue exist.
Can you go into the button settings under settings and reassign the button functions?
I'm downloading the ROM from HTC right now @
http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html
Will see if that fixes it, then I guess I will have to figure out where the previous ROM versions are archived, and download/install previous versions if this doesn't fix it.
Under the Button settings - the only 4 buttons that it allows you to reassign are all working fine. It's only the buttom cluster of buttons below the screen that are being "tempermental".
Oh - I'm fairly certain it's not hardware related because I can reset the phone, and push the Phone button, but then it quits working. It's like the buttons aren't being released / activated after the first time they're used.
Hopefully the ROM reinstall will fix it...
I'm having the same problem. All soft keys work for a sec after SR but go dead. I don't think it's rom based because I have HTC WM6 Rom, and all my troubles started after I put Pointui on my TYTN. I've Hard reset once already, might have to do it again. Anyone have any ideas why this is happening. I also get occasional white screen, again none of this happened before Pointui.
I get the occasional white screen, and I've never installed the Pointui that you mentioned.
Well, I just reinstalled the current HTC official ROM for the 8525, and without installing anything else, my buttons are still intermittent. I think it's the version of the ROM since the device is essentially "clean", correct?
The buttons seem to consistently function properly ONLY after I roll the scroll wheel. It's most definitely a software glitch.
edit to add: while randomly navigating around, I got the White screen.
Well, I've been on the phone with HTC, and AT&T's warranty department, and was basically told I could shove the phone up my a$$. What a POS operation.
Since my phone is out of warranty, they said if I wanted to do an "Out of warranty exchange", I could politely hand them $497, and they will joyfully ship me a replacement REFURBISHED phone. WTF!?!
In speaking with the warranty repair department, they said they would be HAPPY to take a look at it, and evaluate the problem, and call me with an estimated cost of repairs, of which the absolute minimum cost I would incur would be to the tune of about $129 - I was so appalled, I didn't write down the exact price. I told them I am 100% unwilling to give them money to fix a problem that I feel their software created, politely said goodbye and hung up the phone.
So, I'm essentially stuck with a phone that HTC / AT&T broke via their WM6 ROM update, and they're not willing to do anything (for free) to fix their mistakes.
My phone has suffered NO water damage, and no physical damage.
I did a ROM reinstall this morning, I did a hard reset (pushed the two dash buttons on the bottom cluster and held in the stylus reset button), and the only way I can make the cluster operate is to roll the wheel a few times, and then the buttons work (at least for one or two clicks, and then I have to roll the wheel again).
What a joke.
So, I guess I have to figure out how to revert to a previous WM5 ROM. Is this possible?
Everyone here is getting the same errors as me...the occasional white screen and so on. I've never tried scrolling the wheel to make the buttons recognize. I just hit the power button -> sleep mode -> power button and the buttons work again for a short time. LUCKILY phone is still in warranty and AT&T will ship me a new one <3 Buisness care...I'm thinking it's not software related because I installed schap's windows 6, on every last one of the hermes I've came across(About 10). Something might just be wrong with these hermes.
I have same problem with TYTN.... and what to do???
Okay - I bought a new phone over the weekend. As a last effort to fix the phone, I decided to google my problem, and I actually found the solution in the first link I clicked on. I feel pretty stupid, actually.
Slide your keyboard open, and look at the backside of the screen. The phillips screw at the bottom left of your screen - try loosening and/or tightening that screw. Mine was loose, so I had to tighten mine. My wife dropped my phone a week after I bought it (well over a year ago), and I guess the screw eventually worked itself loose.
My button pad now works like it should.
Guess I'll be taking my new phone back to the store and just keeping the 8525.
Did someone knof will that repair if i downgrade WM6 to WM5?
same thing is happening to my X01HT, wheel then it works for a few times and then it stops agian, wtf!?
WM5 downgrade did not resolve front buttons problems
ivanish said:
Did someone knof will that repair if i downgrade WM6 to WM5?
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I have had the same problem for quite a while now. I upgraded from the official WM5 that came with the TyTN to the official WM6. After a while the buttons on the front started to be intermittent. As well as the memory card "disappearing" and QWERTY keyword randomly dying (resulting in display fixed to landscape mode), both resulted in a hard reset to resolve. Anyway, to cut a long story short I contacted HTC who said they would repair the problems under warranty (as it was still in warranty) but due to my very misfortune the device suffered liquid ingress THE DAY BEFORE I SENT IT OFF!!! Thereby voiding the warranty (as notified by HTC after inspecting the device).
So, I would have to sort this out myself. I tried various unofficial ROMs, all of which work "for a while" (maybe a day or two) and then go back to being intermittent, and then not working completely. I have also used a WM6.1 ROM which seemed to work for a lot longer, but then stopped working just like the rest.
As of today I finally downgraded from WM6.1 as I was reluctant to do so before as I love some of the new features of WM6.1. But I took the plunge to see if it would resolve the button problem, as it was becoming a pain not having those buttons working. And the answer is........NO! After just a few minutes of me setting the device up the buttons ceased working.
I find the problem quite strange. I am a computer professional with an electronics background, and I am not convinced the problem is either software or hardware related (i.e. I am not convinced which is the problem). I have dismantled the phone on two occasions and all connections are connected perfectly. I have changed the ROM numerous times and tried different version of WM but all to no avail. One of HTC's solutions is to check whether a button is stuck, but all buttons are fine.
I have recently purchased Tomb Raider for Pocket PC, and within that game I have on numerous occasions "lost" the front buttons (on the occasions that the buttons were working). I happen to play about with other buttons, and after pressing the Comm Manager button all the front buttons returned to working order (but then they would stop working again shortly after). I tried this numerous times in Windows Mobile (6.1) when the buttons ceased working and it did not resolve the problem, however it still does in Tomb Raider.
After downgrading to WM5 I have noticed that with every power on and power off all the buttons and lights works correctly (in WM6.x if the buttons had ceased working then the lights would remain on even when in standby). So, it would appear in WM5 you can restore the buttons functionality by pressing the standby button twice (once to turn it off and once to turn it back on).
So, I am puzzled. Is it hardware or is it software? Any ideas? Is it a driver issue? Is it not informing a chip somewhere to power up the buttons? Is it a loose connection? Who knows? HTC certainly will not tell me (obvisouly because they want me to pay for them to repair it).
So, any ideas?
Adam
BTW the memory card problem and QWERTY keyboard problem were resolved by using an unofficial ROM.
Check that the "ok" button next ot the jog wheel is not stuck. Seems mine is, need to open the phone up and fix it.
I actually do not have problems with the D-pad but I'm getting problem with the Answer(green) and Hang Up(red) button...
Anyhow... anyone has a solution since then?
similar problems
hi i thought i would join this discussion as i have been having similar problems with my tmobile vario 2. i had it for a year with no problems and then the day i upgraded it to an orange tytn II the bottom buttons stopped working. i have taken the whole phone apart to check connections and everything seems fine and when i put it back together the buttons work fine for about a minute and then stop again. i have been tearing my hair out, i still have the original wm5 installed that came with the phone and before it stopped working it had been kept very well and not been knocked or dropped or anything. All the buttons on the top and side and the control pad and center button at the bottom work the only buttons that dont work are the 6 at the side of the control pad which pretty much renders the phone useless as a phone.
IF ANYONE SOLVES THIS PROBLEM OR HAS SIMILAR EXPERIENCES PLEASE CONTACT ME!!
hi!
If I push the key "u" of querty keyboard it doesn't do anything! although when I start the herald it fill the pin code with "222222222222" (like I was pressing the "u/2" key) and sometimes, when i'm writing sms, it type "uuuuuu(...)uuuuuuuuu" (I don't need to do anything to herald start typing this) It only stop typing when i push another key.
Sometimes I open a task and a few seconds later it start typing "uuuuuu" alone :x
one more info... the qwerty keyboard light doesn't turn off when I'm not using it, or when it is closed) and display neither!
I already changed the rom, I use now SPL 4.70yang and IPL4.17.0002.
Is it a hardware fault? Can I fix it? regards
best regards, Jorge Mota
It sounds like the button may be stuck in the actual keyboard.
but if it is stuck why doesn't it types everytime "uuuuuuu"? :\ It is strange!
btw I will send it to warranty! what does I have to do, to P4350 stay like an original?
I have to install the original Rom whatelse? does I have to switch SPL/IPL? If yes to which one?
regards!
I would revert back to the orignal rom to be safe, and also, have you taken the phone apart? My phone started having the same symptoms when I took mine apart, only it was pushing the P key, it was because i didn;t seat the keyboard ribbon correctly.
I have the original rom now installed now what must I do?
well is it still "crazy"?
thats the million dollar question, no?
soooo.. did you take it apart? i have a wing and a wizzard that both have scrolling issues.. wonder if its because teh cable is not seated right like other guy said or if its touch screen issue or needs new scroll button? here is a whole group of people with same problem ;/
http://www.fixya.com/support/t296655-tmobile_wing_stop_scrolling
I have the WP7 installed. No dual boot.
I have a password protected lock screen, and every once in awhile, the touch screen wont work, so I can't slide up and put in the password. If I hit the windows button in the middle, it kinda bounces for a second, then goes dark again.
It happened yesterday too, and the only way I fixed it was to turn it off, take out the battery and then turn it back on again.
When the touch screen works, it works fine. It's perplexing.
Anyone else have this problem?
Yes, but I only have to tap on the screen and the touch screen is working again and I can slide up the screen. Had this happen with both of the builds I've used so far.
This didn't work for me. My phone's been locked all night.
Hmm, not really sure what it could be. Check with whoever built the rom you are using, they may have a better solution. Sorry I couldn't help more.
Its a hardware problem, not software, i had the same problem the solution is to change touch screen, try to press touch near red button for same time it can help, but not for long time.
Sorry for me english)
Common problem. Your touch screen is fried (or is in the processing of frying). Start the warranty process now.
fried? dunno mate, when my touch screen goes on the blink i sweep a finger in the opersite direction to what i usually do then try again straight after, so forinstance, at the lock screen i try up and it doesnt work, so i try down then up and that usually fixes it, same for the tile screen, if it wont work as i sweepleft, i sweep right then left.
this doesnt happn on android which i would think rules out an overall hardware fault, at least for me anyway, it is however hardware related, the HD2 shouldnt have WP7, the drivers are not designed for our device so expect these odd happenings.
Of course its equally likely that this could be another sign of the pain in the arse SD card issues some of us suffer, reflash and try a new SD card and see what happens.
Man its realy problem of touch screen because it breaks in zone of red button, and when you press it some times it goes ok, and works wery well, but it die from now, replace the touch or it will die in few - weeks- days.
i would seriously get that accusation backed up by some proof before someone does something they didnt need to do.
I have random unresponsive screen issues that are directly related to the install of WP7 it does not happen on android or WM, there for its not hardware, at least in my case, its driver