I just flashed my girls 8525 and her joypad, softkeys, phone keys aren't responding anymore. They were responding at first, so I just figured a hard reset would do it. But it's still not working. The top message and IE button works though. Also, when I slide the phone open the softkeys there work. I can't even hard reset the phone.
Can you Reflash the phone? Maybe just a bad install.
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Can you Reflash the phone? Maybe just a bad install.
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Did that already...still not working
I think my phone is having the same problems as yours.
None of the physical buttons on the bottom of my phone are working. My scroll wheel works fine, as do the Power, Comm, and Camera buttons, and all on-screen "buttons" work, but it's like the bottom group of physical buttons on the phone are not responding. It's been somewhat intermittent, but now they're basically not working at all. I can't even hang up the phone with the End key, or activate the dialing pad with my Phone key.
I had done all of the WM6 Cingular upgrades from the Cingular website, and it seems my problems started shortly after that.
Just this morning, I ran the "Clear Storage" command, and now my system is running WM6, Build 18128.0.4.4, ROM version 3.62.502.3, ROM date 10/11/07
Have you tried flashing back to the ROM you had before that was working?
If it is not ROM related.......I would fear some hardware issue exist.
Can you go into the button settings under settings and reassign the button functions?
I'm downloading the ROM from HTC right now @
http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html
Will see if that fixes it, then I guess I will have to figure out where the previous ROM versions are archived, and download/install previous versions if this doesn't fix it.
Under the Button settings - the only 4 buttons that it allows you to reassign are all working fine. It's only the buttom cluster of buttons below the screen that are being "tempermental".
Oh - I'm fairly certain it's not hardware related because I can reset the phone, and push the Phone button, but then it quits working. It's like the buttons aren't being released / activated after the first time they're used.
Hopefully the ROM reinstall will fix it...
I'm having the same problem. All soft keys work for a sec after SR but go dead. I don't think it's rom based because I have HTC WM6 Rom, and all my troubles started after I put Pointui on my TYTN. I've Hard reset once already, might have to do it again. Anyone have any ideas why this is happening. I also get occasional white screen, again none of this happened before Pointui.
I get the occasional white screen, and I've never installed the Pointui that you mentioned.
Well, I just reinstalled the current HTC official ROM for the 8525, and without installing anything else, my buttons are still intermittent. I think it's the version of the ROM since the device is essentially "clean", correct?
The buttons seem to consistently function properly ONLY after I roll the scroll wheel. It's most definitely a software glitch.
edit to add: while randomly navigating around, I got the White screen.
Well, I've been on the phone with HTC, and AT&T's warranty department, and was basically told I could shove the phone up my a$$. What a POS operation.
Since my phone is out of warranty, they said if I wanted to do an "Out of warranty exchange", I could politely hand them $497, and they will joyfully ship me a replacement REFURBISHED phone. WTF!?!
In speaking with the warranty repair department, they said they would be HAPPY to take a look at it, and evaluate the problem, and call me with an estimated cost of repairs, of which the absolute minimum cost I would incur would be to the tune of about $129 - I was so appalled, I didn't write down the exact price. I told them I am 100% unwilling to give them money to fix a problem that I feel their software created, politely said goodbye and hung up the phone.
So, I'm essentially stuck with a phone that HTC / AT&T broke via their WM6 ROM update, and they're not willing to do anything (for free) to fix their mistakes.
My phone has suffered NO water damage, and no physical damage.
I did a ROM reinstall this morning, I did a hard reset (pushed the two dash buttons on the bottom cluster and held in the stylus reset button), and the only way I can make the cluster operate is to roll the wheel a few times, and then the buttons work (at least for one or two clicks, and then I have to roll the wheel again).
What a joke.
So, I guess I have to figure out how to revert to a previous WM5 ROM. Is this possible?
Everyone here is getting the same errors as me...the occasional white screen and so on. I've never tried scrolling the wheel to make the buttons recognize. I just hit the power button -> sleep mode -> power button and the buttons work again for a short time. LUCKILY phone is still in warranty and AT&T will ship me a new one <3 Buisness care...I'm thinking it's not software related because I installed schap's windows 6, on every last one of the hermes I've came across(About 10). Something might just be wrong with these hermes.
I have same problem with TYTN.... and what to do???
Okay - I bought a new phone over the weekend. As a last effort to fix the phone, I decided to google my problem, and I actually found the solution in the first link I clicked on. I feel pretty stupid, actually.
Slide your keyboard open, and look at the backside of the screen. The phillips screw at the bottom left of your screen - try loosening and/or tightening that screw. Mine was loose, so I had to tighten mine. My wife dropped my phone a week after I bought it (well over a year ago), and I guess the screw eventually worked itself loose.
My button pad now works like it should.
Guess I'll be taking my new phone back to the store and just keeping the 8525.
Did someone knof will that repair if i downgrade WM6 to WM5?
same thing is happening to my X01HT, wheel then it works for a few times and then it stops agian, wtf!?
WM5 downgrade did not resolve front buttons problems
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Did someone knof will that repair if i downgrade WM6 to WM5?
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I have had the same problem for quite a while now. I upgraded from the official WM5 that came with the TyTN to the official WM6. After a while the buttons on the front started to be intermittent. As well as the memory card "disappearing" and QWERTY keyword randomly dying (resulting in display fixed to landscape mode), both resulted in a hard reset to resolve. Anyway, to cut a long story short I contacted HTC who said they would repair the problems under warranty (as it was still in warranty) but due to my very misfortune the device suffered liquid ingress THE DAY BEFORE I SENT IT OFF!!! Thereby voiding the warranty (as notified by HTC after inspecting the device).
So, I would have to sort this out myself. I tried various unofficial ROMs, all of which work "for a while" (maybe a day or two) and then go back to being intermittent, and then not working completely. I have also used a WM6.1 ROM which seemed to work for a lot longer, but then stopped working just like the rest.
As of today I finally downgraded from WM6.1 as I was reluctant to do so before as I love some of the new features of WM6.1. But I took the plunge to see if it would resolve the button problem, as it was becoming a pain not having those buttons working. And the answer is........NO! After just a few minutes of me setting the device up the buttons ceased working.
I find the problem quite strange. I am a computer professional with an electronics background, and I am not convinced the problem is either software or hardware related (i.e. I am not convinced which is the problem). I have dismantled the phone on two occasions and all connections are connected perfectly. I have changed the ROM numerous times and tried different version of WM but all to no avail. One of HTC's solutions is to check whether a button is stuck, but all buttons are fine.
I have recently purchased Tomb Raider for Pocket PC, and within that game I have on numerous occasions "lost" the front buttons (on the occasions that the buttons were working). I happen to play about with other buttons, and after pressing the Comm Manager button all the front buttons returned to working order (but then they would stop working again shortly after). I tried this numerous times in Windows Mobile (6.1) when the buttons ceased working and it did not resolve the problem, however it still does in Tomb Raider.
After downgrading to WM5 I have noticed that with every power on and power off all the buttons and lights works correctly (in WM6.x if the buttons had ceased working then the lights would remain on even when in standby). So, it would appear in WM5 you can restore the buttons functionality by pressing the standby button twice (once to turn it off and once to turn it back on).
So, I am puzzled. Is it hardware or is it software? Any ideas? Is it a driver issue? Is it not informing a chip somewhere to power up the buttons? Is it a loose connection? Who knows? HTC certainly will not tell me (obvisouly because they want me to pay for them to repair it).
So, any ideas?
Adam
BTW the memory card problem and QWERTY keyboard problem were resolved by using an unofficial ROM.
Check that the "ok" button next ot the jog wheel is not stuck. Seems mine is, need to open the phone up and fix it.
I actually do not have problems with the D-pad but I'm getting problem with the Answer(green) and Hang Up(red) button...
Anyhow... anyone has a solution since then?
similar problems
hi i thought i would join this discussion as i have been having similar problems with my tmobile vario 2. i had it for a year with no problems and then the day i upgraded it to an orange tytn II the bottom buttons stopped working. i have taken the whole phone apart to check connections and everything seems fine and when i put it back together the buttons work fine for about a minute and then stop again. i have been tearing my hair out, i still have the original wm5 installed that came with the phone and before it stopped working it had been kept very well and not been knocked or dropped or anything. All the buttons on the top and side and the control pad and center button at the bottom work the only buttons that dont work are the 6 at the side of the control pad which pretty much renders the phone useless as a phone.
IF ANYONE SOLVES THIS PROBLEM OR HAS SIMILAR EXPERIENCES PLEASE CONTACT ME!!
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Hi all.
Just got a JasJam about 2 weeks ago.
I am have a problem with the touch screen.
After about 5 mins of use the touch screen slowly gets more and more unresponsive untill it stops working.
If i remove the battery and let the phone sit for a couple of minutes then restart it the touch screen would start working again. But for only 5 mins.
Is this what everyone is refering to as problems with Screen Allignment or do i have a bigger problem.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this problem.
Thanks
Travis
Personally i would do i hard reset and not install any additional software to see if you have the same problem. If yes, then its hardware problem and needs to be sent in for repair. If not, then install your programs back one by one to find the culprit.
S.K.
EDIT: Ensure you back up your data before performing a hard reset. You will lose all information stored on the phone.
Silent_Killa's advice is what I would do. Might try uninstalling apps one by one first??
This is NOT the screen alignment issue - I don't think. It depends if the screen responsiveness going off is actually at the point at which you tap the screen is not matching where the screen responds?? In other words it does respond but not at the location you tap. If this is happening then it is the SA issue, but if the screen does not respond in any way to taps then I doubt it's the SA problem - though could well be a digitizer issue.
I have not searched, but a week or two weeks ago an identical problem was posted by someone else.
If a hard reset does not cure this I would suggest a return as soon as possible.
Mike
Hey guys.
Yea i trided the whole hard rest thing and it still did the same problem.
The screen works fine but it is just the tapping part that gets screwed up.
All my hardware buttons work ok so i can still use the phone. I just can't use the touch screen.
Do you really thing an application could do this sort of thing.
The main ones i use are -
SPB Diary
SPB Pocket Plus
Spb Weather
Pocket Informant
Are these know to cause any problems.
I will try one more time and not install any apps.
Oh well 2 weeks old and it's off for repair.
Thanks for your help.
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Hey guys.
Yea i trided the whole hard rest thing and it still did the same problem.
The screen works fine but it is just the tapping part that gets screwed up.
All my hardware buttons work ok so i can still use the phone. I just can't use the touch screen.
Do you really thing an application could do this sort of thing.
The main ones i use are -
SPB Diary
SPB Pocket Plus
Spb Weather
Pocket Informant
Are these know to cause any problems.
I will try one more time and not install any apps.
Oh well 2 weeks old and it's off for repair.
Thanks for your help.
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BUT surely you tried it for an hour or two before installing anything!!?? And if working then only one application at a time?
No I don't think any of those apps. are the cause of the problem.
You still have not given full details about whether the screen is completely unresponsive or misaligned.
Either way if it's under warranty and hard reset does not cure it, get it returned cos this is not some little software fault.
Mike
Touch screen do not respond
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I have not searched but a week or two weeks ago an identical problem was posted by someone else. If a hard reset does not cure this I would suggest a return as soon as possible.
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Yes, it was me (I think), I had this problem too. It was only when the keyboard was slided and locked opened. Button would respond but screen would freeze and the start menu, sometimes, would pop up as an extra.
I had to give it back ...
dam said:
Yes, it was me (I think), I had this problem too. It was only when the keyboard was slided and locked opened. Button would respond but screen would freeze and the start menu, sometimes, would pop up as an extra.
I had to give it back ...
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Hope you get it back working this time so you can start to enjoy it!!
Mike
dam said:
Yes, it was me (I think), I had this problem too. It was only when the keyboard was slided and locked opened. Button would respond but screen would freeze and the start menu, sometimes, would pop up as an extra.
I had to give it back ...
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YEP that is exactly what mine does sometimes. After i open the keyboard the start button would start to pop open and close.
How did you get on. Did they tell you what the problem was.
Cheers.
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BUT surely you tried it for an hour or two before installing anything!!?? And if working then only one application at a time?
No I don't think any of those apps. are the cause of the problem.
You still have not given full details about whether the screen is completely unresponsive or misaligned.
Either way if it's under warranty and hard reset does not cure it, get it returned cos this is not some little software fault.
Mike
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Sorry, about that.
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Screen has no problems with SA. After about 5 mins the screen slowly becomes more unresponsibe. IE i would have to tap the start button several times for it to work. When it finially pops open it just closes again almost straight away.
Not long after this the screen will become totally unresponsive, howver all hardware buttons will still work.
I am going to try a hard reset tonight.
I will let you konw.
Thanks again.
Well it is deffinitly my phone.
The screen wasn't working as per normal.
I hard reset my phone. When it rebooted and got to the "tap the screen to continue" bit. Guess what it didn't work.
I taped the screen several time but no go. The screen was dead.
I will have to send it back to the shop.
Cheers.
Travis
wiki update
I took the freedom to update the wiki on this issue :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Problems
well, my device was a second hand but the seller was as so kind as to take it back... nothing for chirstmas this year .
still... happy new year to everybody !
Saber_007 said:
Well it is deffinitly my phone.
The screen wasn't working as per normal.
I hard reset my phone. When it rebooted and got to the "tap the screen to continue" bit. Guess what it didn't work.
I taped the screen several time but no go. The screen was dead.
I will have to send it back to the shop.
Cheers.
Travis
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Fingers crossed you'll get a good one back. I think you were going to have to send this one back anyway.
Mike
JasJam screen responds to "ghost" taps!
The touch screen on my JasJam responds to continuous taps even when I don't tap it. When the keyboard is slid out, the start menu keeps on popping as if the start button on screen is being tapped. When keyboard is slid inside (device is closed), the device behaves as if the OK button (the "X" on top right) is being tapped continuously. Due to this, I can't open any program. (As soon as a program is opened, the "X" button on top right is automatically clicked and I reach Home screen again!
I uploaded a video about this mal-functioning of device:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWAyRLQ01oo
I have already:
1. Alligned screen
2. Hard reset device (Left and Right softkeys + Reset button)
3. Updated ROM and hard reset device
but of no use! Please help.
Read that
it's a hw issue, had to get a replacement ...
Same problem
I seem to be having the exact same problem. When I first got it, I was able to use the phone for a couple of weeks, then all of the sudden, the screen stoped responding, but all the buttons worked. I did a hard reset, and it worked for a little while, then when bad again. At first I thought it was related to ActiveSync because it would always go bad immediately after syncing. However, even when I don't sync after a hard reset it eventually goes bad again. Today I just got it back from manufacturer - they couldn't reproduce the problem. It worked all day. Then I synced. Stupid me. Its not responding again.
There's no way out. Get a replacement.
I'm hoping that my replaced device doesn't have same issue.
same problem
I have the same exact problem. I sent back the Phone to Cingular / HTC, and they "repaired" it under warranty. I got the phone bac, and after a day's use, it went back to its old state.
Since I got this on ebay (BIG mistake), even though it was new, its having this problem.
So far i am not at ALL impressed with the 8525. Seems to me like its laden with hardware issues.
Can someone please offer insight as to what I can do?
Sorry to hear that! I had actually purchased i-mate JasJAM from Dubai. i-mate has just one service center in USA (PocketPCTechs in CA). They provided amazingly great customer service and replaced the main board. So far the problem hasn't repeated.
shassouneh said:
I have the same exact problem. I sent back the Phone to Cingular / HTC, and they "repaired" it under warranty. I got the phone bac, and after a day's use, it went back to its old state.
Since I got this on ebay (BIG mistake), even though it was new, its having this problem.
So far i am not at ALL impressed with the 8525. Seems to me like its laden with hardware issues.
Can someone please offer insight as to what I can do?
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Hey, I am having the same problem as well. Bought my phone on December 06 from eBay seller too. Big mistake as HTC will tell you sorry your warranty is void if you did not purchase the device from the carrier (even though it was new.) I am curious how you were able to get it repaired under warranty since you too bought yours from a third party.
I did the credit card trick and it worked flawlessly for about two months and just yesterday I am back to the same problem. After today doing the credit card trick numerous times I finally got the touch screen working now but who knows for how long this time.
BTW my serial number is in the HT642Fxxxxxx if anyone else that has this problem wants to compare and post theirs.
Facing the same problems...
... I've been thinking about repalcing the display and the touchscreen. But now, considering that it is a HW issue, I can only replace these two things. If the bug is in the module above the screen (statur leds and camera) or related to the wireing at the back of the screen, it won't get rid of the problem. On the other hand, if it is a problem with the screen getting too hot, then I'm on the right track...
Has anyone tried this yet?
I'll try to call HTC on monday, maybe they know where the bug is.
Good afternoon,
Just wondering if anyone could give me a hand here. I have the Hermes in the guise of a MDA Vario II. On Thursday, I was using a Wi-Fi connection and the handset got really hot and since then the touch screen has been unresponsive. Since then I've noticed that one of the soft-keys looked as though they were stuck on (changed colour as though they were in being pressed), so I clicked the hard key underneath it which stopped the soft key from being as though it were pressed but that didn't fix the matter of the dead touchscreen.
I've also tried cooling the handset down and then trying to use it, but that doesn't fix the matter.
I've tried reflashing the ROM (Black 3.0.1) on the device, but I get stuck at the calibrating the touchscreen step as the touchscreen doesn't work. I can bypass the first tap screen command though, by pressing the power button to put the device into sleep mode and then pressing the power button again to get it out of sleep mode. This also happened when I flashed Black 2.5. The weird thing is that my phone will still ring even when stuck at the calibrating screen step but it won't show the caller; it just makes the ringing noise.
I've got to admit that I'm running out options fast. I don't want to open the device up unless it's unavoidable. I've alread had a look over some of the other issues with touchscreens but I can't find a resolution.
I think you are snookered here. Warranty fix may be problematic with all that flashing. You could open up (warranty voiding) to see if a connector has worked loose, but that is very much pot luck. Repair job at full cost - possibly very costly!! (and not guaranteed to be working when you get it back - often they replace the LCD screen that may in fact not be broken!)
Won't go into details of the screen issue - you'll have read them all anyway.
Mike
Thanks Mike,
I've got it back to the T-Mobile Hungary ROM now (but it still won't get past the screen calibration). I've been talking to T-Mobile to a seperate issue with the handset and they've said that they'll exchange it, so it looks like I could be sorted. My main concern is that they might query why it's got a Hungarian ROM on it; although I'm hoping that they'll see the splash screens and get stuck at the screen calibration so it won't be an issue.
Hi all
I bought a JasJam about an year ago, and it has been working fine.
About 5 weeks ago, I flashed it with HardSPL 7, Radio 1.50 and Schap's 3.60a.
It worked fine till yesterday when suddenly following buttons stopped working: IE, Messaging, Left & right soft keys, start, ok, green & red buttons. Rest of the buttons, keyboard etc are fine. There was no impact, no "sudden movements". The buttons just stopped working! I mean, one minute they were fine and the next minute, they were screwed.
I have done following to fix this (in order)
1. Soft reset
2. Hard reset (which shows that there is no problem with the hardware)
3. Flashing with Schap's ROM again
4. Flashing with 3des ROM
5. Flashing with Sleuth's ROM
6. Flashing with Cingular (WM5)
And still, no use! Buttons still don't work.
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Does the silence says: You have to live with it.
???
More Updates :s
Now I am not able to delete anything I type. :s Not even while using the onscreen keyboard! I can see that when i tap on the backspace button, it highlights, but the text doesn't get deleted! I have tried this in almost any place which allows you to enter text. :s
I think I will go back to my original shipped ROM and bootloader. :S
Strange stuff happening! Downgrading to olipro 1.10 has solved the backspace problem. How can a bootloader affect a function like that? :s
Back to shipped bootloader and ROM (not the radio) Still the buttons are not functional.
I also opened up the phone and cleaned the buttons, made sure all connections are properly in place. Put everything back together, and no, the buttons don't work.
What do I do?
I have tried a thousand other bootloaders, radios and ROMs... But these buttons wouldn't work?
Where are the geniuses like oli?
I have the exact same issue.. I have pretty much tried all SPL/Radio/ROM/App combinations, including the 1.01 IPL, original SPL, and WM5 that ships on the Tytn from HTC... And, just like you, the keys sometimes work, and then suddenly they stop. Restart or hard-reset seldom brings them back. I know it's not hardware issue because holding down the "-" and "-" keys while resetting always works. I also observe the LEDs on the front panel go all whacky. Sometimes the power LED, which normally blinks on battey power turns on and stays that way; sometimes it doesn't come on at all.
My guy feeling is that this is not ROM related, and somewhere along the line while I was enjoying the "flash-o-palooza", something got corrupted in the flash memory.
I am now looking for a method to do a "harder-reset" that will clean out the whole thing, reflash the bootloader and build it from scratch.
I think the buttons are not properly passing interrept requests to the OS, which as you correctly mentioned is a flash memory / bios problem. (I don't know a lot about hermes architecture)
HTC provides a diagnostic sd card in which you can check if the buttons work fine. I will try to get my hands on one of those.
Did you try going back to Wm5?
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Did you try going back to Wm5?
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Yep.. Many times.
any luck with this? can u get to bootloader mode with the keys?
not believing that it would be hardware problem, I disassembled already some times my TyTn and I did not have sucess. If someone have sucess, post here please
the only obvious thing is that the keybddr.dll driver is not be loaded properly. how do u normally load the rom's? do u let the software boot the phone, or do you put it in bootloader mode first?
as I use a Windows Vista, the ROM upgrader have to be done in the Bootloader Mode
But, Sometimes the buttons works, and in next minute, they die again
its a misterious
Hardware buttons also not working
I am also experiecing this problem. Occasionally the hardware buttons will work, then if I open the slider they stop working. I have also tried updating firmware etc.. but it hasn't helped. The buttons will work if i press the left and right keys while pressing the reset key to do a hard reset. They work every time doing this, so it seems like a software problem. But I don't understand how a s/w problem like this can remain there even after firmware update and hard resets.
I have opened the phone up several times, because I have another problem, or two. As much as I love the phone it has been totally unreliable. It shipped with the LCD not working, I diagnosed that as a faulty ribbon cable, which I replaced, that made the LCD work. But then the earpiece speaker and the front camera didn't work. Now this problem... this is starting to drive me crazy.......
Hi, I have the same problem, I think. Sometimes when I play games, browse the phone or slide down the keybord the buttons below the screen just stop working. I have also tried to flash different roms, but to no good. There is a temp fix thou but it work slow sometimes, if I scroll with the wheel for a bit(the scroll time varies) the button seem to work, but only for a little while.
Does anyone have any news on this issue, cause i can't use any program that need these buttons.
I also have this problem, I guess I'll have to send it in to get it fixed :|
Problem Solved
I have managed to resolve the problem. It started compounding which made me think that it had to be a hardware problem. The first symptoms were that the front bottom hardware keys stopped working. Then the LCD would not align properly after sliding the keyboard, so I would have a white bar at the top and/or left of the screen.
Next the top hardware buttons stopped working, and then finally all I had was a white screen with nothing on it.
I replaced the flex cable that connects the front of the phone to the main board and it has solved all of my problems. I had already replaced this cable when I first got the phone because the one that came was with it was faulty. Now after just a few months of use the replacement one wore out as well. It seems to be the weak link in the build of these phones.
crajoh said:
I have managed to resolve the problem. It started compounding which made me think that it had to be a hardware problem. The first symptoms were that the front bottom hardware keys stopped working. Then the LCD would not align properly after sliding the keyboard, so I would have a white bar at the top and/or left of the screen.
Next the top hardware buttons stopped working, and then finally all I had was a white screen with nothing on it.
I replaced the flex cable that connects the front of the phone to the main board and it has solved all of my problems. I had already replaced this cable when I first got the phone because the one that came was with it was faulty. Now after just a few months of use the replacement one wore out as well. It seems to be the weak link in the build of these phones.
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I don’t think you got the same problem as us, if you check almost all the other button problem threads they are about the white screen but since we in this thread have not gotten any white screens or some of the other symptoms I'm quite sure it’s not the same. Also some with our problem have tried to change the flex cable but it has not fixed the problem.
*edit - I did not put the angry smiley on this post.
Me too!Anybody can soleve it?I found that when they aren't woring,we can touch on screen or press ok button on the left once or twice,they work again!
With my Tytn (HTC) the red and green buttons dont work, together with the buttons next to them. All other buttons, including the scrollwheel and D-Pad work ok.
I flashed it a couple of times with different ROM's, but this doesn't affect the buttons, so I suppose it's a hardware problem (HT629).
This has happened once before a month ago when I had put the phone in my backpocket. It started working again after a couple of days. Now it doesn't seem to start working again. My best guess is that it has something to do with humid air, but that's a long shot.
I couldn't find any relevant posts regarding this specific problem, so maybe someone has any ideas?
Thxs.
yo
i had the same problem ,all front buttons didnt work so i pull out MicroSD card and reflash device without it and it helped/
cheers
He pksred,
Thxs for the idea. Unfortunately in my case it doesn't work. Reflashed without any result
Does anyone have other ideas. I'm not looking forward to open the phone in the remote hope I find some loose connection.
i got the same problem. all front bottons doesnt work. it used to work after i press the ok botton but now its not function at all.
did you Guys Drop it or something?
If you Hard Reset and the buttons don't come back its possible The Dpad is no good. You'll have to buy a New one and replace it or send it back to Cingular for replacement.
Hey my lovely XDA-ers, I'm really hoping for some magic here...
Yesterday my HD2 digitizer just stopped working... the Touchscreen will not respond to any inputs. It was bitterly cold outside so I was half hoping that an overnight stay in a warm room would help, but no avail...
The thing is, on one in every 5 restarts, I get a small amount of life from it. One one in 15 restarts, I get full use. So there's still life in there.
I could understand if it broke because I dropped the phone/squashed it, but at the time I was just playing Robo Defence, completely normal use, when all of a sudden it stopped responding.
I've uploaded a video, which shows how, occasionally, the bottom fifth of the screen works. However, as shown, when I'm using the top half of the screen, the digitizer appears to be receiving input from the bottom of the screen, as though I'm trying to perform a multi-touch action. For this reason I'm hoping there still be some way to rescue the phone without an expensive repair job. I bought it in March from XDA Marketplace, and it's served me faithfully since, but because of that I do not think I have the manufacturer's guarentee, or insurance
I've hard-reset, I've reflashed my ROM, I've tried in both WM and Android (my usual OS at the moment), I've reflashed over WM ROMs, and the problem stays the same... (also read all related threads!)
Sorry for inverted nature of vid!
So does anyone have any suggestions to try? Otherwise I might go through a £130 repair service on htcrepairs.co.uk - they do not show up on a forum search so I was wondering if anyone had used their service before?
Thanks all, appreciate any ideas.
Edd
Very odd indeed. I don't have a solution for your problem, but a suggestion. It is a long shot, but might help.
Whenever i had similar problems with my Wizard (i know, kind of old but one of the best older devices every made by HTC), i opened it and cleaned it from the inside and checked all the connections of keyboard, touchscreen, etc. to the mainboard. Sometimes it helped...
In the end, if you buy the replacement kit, you anyway have to open the HD2, so why not try this in prior to buying the kit...
A lot of people seem to have this problem. There's a lot of information on it here. Do a search. But the short answer is its a hardware problem. If your phone is still under warranty send it back. I think HTC will fix it for free if It's less than a year old. But try your carrier first.
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BAD NEWS...
i had EXACTLY this happen to me. eventually it totally stopped responding. Only option is to replace the digitizer.
GOOD NEWS..
After a month of searching, I found a really good guy to do it. www.iexpertstudio.com . The owner is VINCE. you can email him on his site. He charged $110 including mailing it back to me. He replaced the LCD and digitizer and sent it back. All works perfectly now.
I see you are in the UK so dont know if it makes sense to send it to the US. Alternative is to go on ebay and buy the screen/digitizer and replace it yourself.
(BTW normally i would have chucked the device, but even after 1 year I still dont think there is as versatile a device as the HD2. Had the DHD been 3G useable in the US I would have bought one.)
Thanks for the feedback guys, I've been doing some investigation my end (and you're right, there are similar threads on here, but none which had a "half-screen working" problem.)
I've narrowed the culprit down to my "Back" button. It's somehow exerting pressure on the screen, leading to either a non-responsive digitizer or an input at the bottom of the screen.
I might add this to an entry in the "ANDROID KILLS YOUR BUTTONS" thread
My choice is to live manually with it, or get the company mentioned in the first post to give it a good clean, but whether it's worth £80 just yet is a question for me.
Anyway, thanks for your input, guess this thread will close, but to any readers in future, if your screen seems to die, see if it's pressure on the screen caused by the buttons!
I can totally support your reasoning.
I haven't had any problems whatsoever with the touchscreen in almost a year of honoured career of this phone, while this morning I was trying to unlock it with no success (nothing special happened, I even used it 10 minutes this morning already). At first I thought it was the usual "sleepy" behaviour of the screen right after waking up, butafter sliding down the hdmini style unlocker at least 10 times with no effect I really started freaking out :O
I have longpress endkey set on instant reboot, and after that it seemed working... just not for too long.
To cut to the chase, what in my opinion supports your idea of hardware buttons interfering is:
sometimes, as I have LMT installed, with the tap&hold option enabled, swiping with just one finger triggered double swype instead (as if the screen detected a second, firm press on the screen elsewhere even if I sure as heck was swyping with one finger)
using mymobiler didn't work as well; if it was a hardware touchscreen problem, mymobiler should work, as it simulates touches, so it will just do its job even if the touchscreen is totally dead... while, IF the hardware touchscreen detected a firm press somewhere, mymobiler wasn't able to actively simulate another press
repeatedly pressing on the end key (which seems to be the culprit in my case) apparently solves the problem, as I can use the touchscreen again; also, a prolonged cycle of hibernating with end key, waking with end key, swyping down the hdmini lock (repeat at libitum) seemed to work, as if I dislodged something by activating the button so often
What I don't understand anyway is: HOW can a button pressing on the digitizer be exerting a touch action? If this was a resistive screen, I'd understand, but it's capacitive, and not even capacitive pens are so good as fingers in activating the touch. The buttons are just plastic with a metal contact underneath, and this metal contact shoudl by no means be anywhere near the digitizer.
Bah.
I know I have 2 years warranty on this device, but being far from my phone during the warranty processing gives me the creeps, so I'll just go on using it and pray this to be the defaillance of one sunday morning not to be seen again... after several soft resets (and fantasizing about a new rom flash, which I need anyway for other reasons) the problem seems to have settled by delicately bashing on the end key. The unlock slider is responsive after every wake up now... FOR now.
Praying...
My screen also died. So the only thing I have to do is press on the end key for a couple of times to make it work again?
lol, that's ONE possibility.
Just saying, in my case it worked, and still does since it happened once more this evening, so it's definitely got something to do with the hardware keys messing around (and hopefully dislodging themself for good, or I'll have to send it back for servicing), anyway in your case it could also be a dead digitizer, so no go
let's put all this about touch screen in 1 sticky thread pls.
I've been living for the problem for about three weeks now. It's never got worse, but never got better. It's a livable situation so for the moment I'll deal with it. I might check with HT about warranty, but it's not yet bothersom enough to make me want to flash back to stock, send it off etc. etc.
smeddy said:
I've been living for the problem for about three weeks now. It's never got worse, but never got better. It's a livable situation so for the moment I'll deal with it. I might check with HT about warranty, but it's not yet bothersom enough to make me want to flash back to stock, send it off etc. etc.
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ditto.
Actually, I don't like having paid good money for a defective phone, but being without HD2 for up to a couple of weeks to one month (maybe? have no idea how fast HTC servicing is) is troublesome. I may buy for a deal a blue angel as a spare, yet, no GPS...
The most problematic event is if you get the "stuck" screen during a call.
In my case, it's the end key that messes it up; if the screen's dead, pressing twice the end key, firmly enough (once for screen off, then again for screen back on) wakes up the screen, and apparently, during a ringing incoming call, you can press the hardware end key without rejecting it, so it's a viable option (not taking into consideration the fact that trying to wake up the screen takes time, and the caller may give up after a while if you're not fast enough).
But if for any reason the screen gets stuck while the call is connected, I am stuck too, as to wake it up I should press the end key thus hanging on the other party.
Sad story.
EDIT: forget what I wrote, pressing end key while phone is ringing WILL reject the call. I tried it before during a real incoming call and apparently it didn't do it, but now it just did.
I also have a HD with a dead screen....
Only thing here is I have sent it back twice already to TelSuck here in Australia only to have it returned after the tech has wiped it over and reflashed it for me... What helpful little imps they are!
Code:
http://www.youtube.com/v/T6ssqmpRIB0
Its drivin me nuts sending it away for 3 weeks at a time to have someone with just enough grey matter to be able to wield a screwdriver tell me nothing is wrong.
Happy to try any suggestions!
@insinr8
this thread is just for half-dead screens where the screen sometimes actually works. Unless you can resurrect it by firmly pressing on the hardware keys, but if it's dead on a regular basis, then it's not our same problem I'm afraid :-(
@OP
while having an "attack", did you try plugging out the microsd to see if it magically solved the problem?
I mean, if it did, it would still be a hardware problem related to the microsd slot, since there is no point for a faulty microsd to mess up the touchscreen, and let it work from time to time
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@insinr8
this thread is just for half-dead screens where the screen sometimes actually works. Unless you can resurrect it by firmly pressing on the hardware keys, but if it's dead on a regular basis, then it's not our same problem I'm afraid :-(
@OP
while having an "attack", did you try plugging out the microsd to see if it magically solved the problem?
I mean, if it did, it would still be a hardware problem related to the microsd slot, since there is no point for a faulty microsd to mess up the touchscreen, and let it work from time to time
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I will try that - it seems to happen more frequently when plugged in and charging, and now more buttons seem to be the cause/fix (e.g. now the home-button, or when I am on home-screens the phone will swipe "left", whereas before it would swipe "right". I'll keep playing.
I may check out HTC as I reckon my warranty, if I have one, will run out soon... Will still wait til after Xmas as I need my toy for the boring bits of Xmas!
I'm having same trouble now whit my phone except problems started mouth ago. After some period I again power up my phone and suddenly everything worked perfectly. Unfortunately this last only for two days and then exactly same problems happened, partially function screen.
As far as I know only good solution is replacing digitizer... I already ordered one for me.
exactly the same problem for me.. I sent it back with warranty yesterday
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I may check out HTC as I reckon my warranty, if I have one, will run out soon... Will still wait til after Xmas as I need my toy for the boring bits of Xmas!
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Ditto.
Actually, my warranty lasts two years, which means until 2012, anyway I cannot stand risking to lose calls because the screen dies on me in the wrong moment, and the only way to wake it up is pressing the endkey (which by the way is the only "cure", and apparently never the cause).
I will be uploading a video on youtube regarding this, also to show it to the guys at the HTC support who will be asking me to hard reset and reflash until annoyed to death (as if that will solve anything)
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This is the video that I just uploaded to youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3-PNYwpYeI
EDIT: One day after, the problem has become way more frequent, 1 out of three times I wake up the phone, diugitizer is dead and I need the " on the end key to make it work
Uploaded another video on youtube with problem showing on vanilla lockscreen so HTC support doesn't try and tell me it's CHT lockscreen's fault
Last bump.
Screen has ben promoted from "hardware key problem" to "permanent death".
Now I can use the phone with mymobiler, but I can't anymore with touch, I seem to not be able even to wake it up even by pressing on end key
Re-flashing last official rom upgrade now to see if anything changes... yeah,sure
Ouch - good luck, hope mine doesn't go that way...