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Can't use GPS with any application on Trinity

Hi All,
Looking for the help. I am desperate.
I purchased HTC Trinity and installed 20070418_RUU_Trinity_LVSW_WWE_1.25.0.8_GPS_AKU3.5.2 rom, which is excellent.
Using Radio Rom 1.41.00.11
However here is the problem. Trying to use GPS with either Windows Mobile Search or Google Maps.
Tried different setting for GPS, different baud rates, different hardware settings.
Nothing, both application can't find GPS.
Any ideas, help?
Tnx

Trinityhack3 has an option to enable GPS icon. Once done you can see that GPS is in your device and default settings are active. Then I used VisualGPSCE to verify GPS is there, there is a real time display of what satellites can be seen. You must change settings to select your GPS com port! Beeline GPS will find your GPS automatically but it is a 30-day trial.
Be patient, first fix can take 10-15 minutes even in clear skies.

Don't know about Mobile Search, but definitely Google Maps is NOT a GPS app. It's a paid service that doesn't use your internal GPS in any way. It has been answered before in this forum. Do some search. Probably it's same for Mobile Search too...

ww2250 said:
... Google Maps is NOT a GPS app. It's a paid service that doesn't use your internal GPS in any way...
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Google Maps is a paid service, only if you have to pay for the data connection you'll need to download the maps / images in realtime. Google Maps DOES support the internal GPS, however it's optional.
Give it time, the Trinity needs at least 10 minutes to get a fix after a soft reset. The default settings are COM9 115200 but I advise you to set it to the NMEA standard of 4800baud, just to avoid problems.
If you want to use more GPS apps at the same time, or use your Trinity as a USB or Bluetooth GPS mouse for your Mac/PC, I advise you Franson's Gpsgate.

ww2250 said:
Don't know about Mobile Search, but definitely Google Maps is NOT a GPS app. It's a paid service that doesn't use your internal GPS in any way. It has been answered before in this forum. Do some search. Probably it's same for Mobile Search too...
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Google maps does have a track location function that will use internal GPS to display current position on the map. In a supported area, and these are few, it does navigation also.

aeberbach said:
Trinityhack3 has an option to enable GPS icon. Once done you can see that GPS is in your device and default settings are active. Then I used VisualGPSCE to verify GPS is there, there is a real time display of what satellites can be seen. You must change settings to select your GPS com port! Beeline GPS will find your GPS automatically but it is a 30-day trial.
Be patient, first fix can take 10-15 minutes even in clear skies.
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I download VisualGPSCD and changed seeting. The good thing it is showing GPS is there!
The bad things still can't use GoogleMaps. I indeed pointing to COM9.
Any other ideas?

Did you give it enough time to give you a lat/long fix in VisualGPSCE? I have found once you do that Google Maps has no trouble else it can just not work.
Check "Track Location Settings" under Options in Google Maps too. I have mine set to "Set by Windows (Via Start -> Settings)". In Windows Mobile 6 I have in Settings (System tab) an icon called "External GPS". Programs is set to GPD1, hardware is COM9/115200 and Access is "manage GPS automatically (recommended).

aeberbach said:
Did you give it enough time to give you a lat/long fix in VisualGPSCE? I have found once you do that Google Maps has no trouble else it can just not work.
Check "Track Location Settings" under Options in Google Maps too. I have mine set to "Set by Windows (Via Start -> Settings)". In Windows Mobile 6 I have in Settings (System tab) an icon called "External GPS". Programs is set to GPD1, hardware is COM9/115200 and Access is "manage GPS automatically (recommended).
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Well, I did all this.
Other GPS software (e.g. IGO) is working, but not GoogleMaps. Strange ...
Any other ideas are welcome.
BTW have the same problem with Mobile Live Search (Microsoft mapping software).

aeberbach said:
Be patient, first fix can take 10-15 minutes even in clear skies.
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first fix means cold fix (for example the first of the day) or the first fix of the PDA???

Yes I mean cold start 10-15 minutes. Since that first long wait I have found it only takes 30 seconds-1 minute at worst.

hi,
same pb with me. I tried everything for vito astronavigator.
Nothing. I tried each settings in the apps: every com port, different baud.
normally when it sees the built in gps, you get a colored planete. here nothing.
With trinity i tried a fiew changes, with no success.
I knew that tomtom was famous for blocking other gps apps.
DO you have any clues or soft for this?

ednet75 said:
...I knew that tomtom was famous for blocking other gps apps.
DO you have any clues or soft for this?
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TomTom only blocks other apps when its actually running. Once you exit it releases the COM port. This is universal with apps that link to the physical COM port- only one app at a a time can access the GPS stream, unless you use an intermediary program like GPSGate.
With WM5, MS introduced the GPSIntermediary Driver (GPSID) which was supposed to allow multiple apps to access GPS at once by assigning a Virtual GPS COM port, but it didn't work properly until WM5 AKU3 was released; even then TomTom, and most other SatNav programs prefer to connect to the physical port.

i have found that new verson of wm mobile handle gps better, i use Mun rom and it seem to get alone fine with it,

Settings for GPS on the Sprint 6.1 GPS/Rev A touch update?

I've looked around a bit for this, but I can't seem to find any information.
Last night I installed the "leaked official" Sprint update for the touch and the GPS doesn't seem to be working properly. I've tried google maps and live search, but it never locks satellites. I think it might be configured wrong?
Anyone know what to do about this?

Since I understand that most of these site's search capabilities won't give you much, I won't flame you..
Any GPS program that I have tried does not start the internal GPS itself. If the GPS isn't running when the program starts, you will not get a lock.
The most popular way around this is to use a GPS "primer" that will start it for you. I like AstroGPSLauncher. Its a nifty little program that starts your GPS and then your program all with the same shortcut. The ZIP file has a couple common shortcuts included. Do a search for AstroGPSLauncher and I am sure you will come up with the shortcut that you need.
Welcome to the forum!

I use Sprint navigator (New rom) and or MSN live search and neither require a GPS primer, in fact they lock on surprisingly fast.

i am using the same new rom. gps worked once but once i customized my rom and let it go cold, i have a tough time getting the gps to lock. i am using htc gps tool V1.1.1.0 and still have trouble. matter of fact..all the leaked gps roms i have tried its doing the same thing.

GPS works in Google Maps and Live Search Maps
Works in both for me. Didn't have to change any settings.
I thought it wasn't working at first
In Google Maps you have to have My Location enabled and select Use GPS in the menu
In LiveSearch Maps you have to select Center on GPS in the menu to show your position on map
select View, Lat/Lon to display your position
It takes around 30 seconds to get a lock for me in Redmond, Wa area once I select Use GPS
Google maps it shows it's tracking 6 satellites.
LiveSearch map does not show the number of satellites.

How to display GPS coordinates?
see prior post

Google navigator

Hi,
Have anybody tried google navigator on the HD. I heard it's supposed to work with the hd. Anybody know if a dataconnection is needed, or can we download the maps and use it "offline" with the built in GPS reciever ??
anybody know where we can find a trial ?

oldings said:
Hi,
Have anybody tried google navigator on the HD. I heard it's supposed to work with the hd. Anybody know if a dataconnection is needed, or can we download the maps and use it "offline" with the built in GPS reciever ??
anybody know where we can find a trial ?
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Attached Google.
This is freeware

thx for reply. But isn't this the same that came pre-installed with the HD.
I tried Google Maps but that uses the data connection. I heard on google navigation you can save maps on storage and the use it "offline", so no need of data-connection, only GPS reciever.

Sorry, I should have read your thread properly, been a long day.
Google Navigator attached
I haven't used this application to be honest, but just installed it and a data connection appears to be required. I'll play with it and let you know if this can be disabled.

I have also downloaded the trial from http://www.pdafun.net/
and first time I started it I saw it downloded dato. I then used HD tweak to stop all data connection, and went in to Google navigator and changed som settings.
I can still start the prorgam wihtout any problems and activated GPS. It find my postition(still noe data connection used, yet). But don't know how to get a map. I only see a "world" map.
SO would be nice to know how we can download offlien maps so we can use with GPS and not need to use dataconnection, since it says it's possible

Without sounding flipant, the CAB is 1.73Mbs so I would expect it does not contain map data, bearing in mind that TomTom Maps are in the region of 1Gbs.
Maybe you have to download from somewhere else though.

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The map are downloaded using Data connection, they are download on demand by the software.

Google Navigator
the meaning of offline Navigation in this Software is that you can specify an interested area and tell the program to download the related topo, road maps, etc to the device over a data connection at a a given Zoom level. (wifi or gsm)
once the download is complete you can switch off the data connection or remove the sim and use the application to locate/Navigate your self in the downloaded area. The purpose is to enable you to use the phone to navigate yourself in a area without network coverage and/or to cutdown on the data download cost over GSM.
FYI
Google Navigator works fine on the HD except for the 3D view. it creates some areas of the map to disappear. I wrote to the developers on this bug and they said they will correct that error in their 4.9V but till the latest version the problem is still there.

is it just me or is the trial version of this completely useless? what is the point in disabling the only features that actually make this different to google maps? surely a time-limited version rather than feature-limitedwould make more sense?
I for one will certainly not be shelling out for this unless I know it works (and on my phone too).
this is most unlike google, who's software (until now)I have always been most impressed with. google maps is simply phenomenal, but does lack the turn-by-turn voice commands necessary to operate it whilst driving.
the data, for me (and many who own this type of device - why on earth would you have a device this capable without some data included?!) is not an issue. but i need to see it in action before I can abandon Tomtom properly...
is this software actually from google or just based on google maps? I still can't work out why I have to pay for this when everything else google is free (and this looks decidedly shoddier)?!
kindregards
dr_nick

Apparently Google Navigator has nothing to do with Google. The developers are just using the name "Google" because it taps into the Maps database. Caveat emptor.

Google Navigator is one of the worst PDA Apps I've ever seen.
Not only do they #1 -- Use the FREE google maps service, and charge you for their crappy front end, but #2 -- Put the name "Google" in the title of their product, so you think it's actually from a reputable source.
Google really needs to put a stop to this company because they are basically ripping people off.

GPS enable

Hi,
at this moment, i don't have internet access available.
I want to enable the GPS function (not A-GPS)
first of all, can GoogleMap use GPS to locate and find the routes? How?
I have tried the COM port and some other speed, but no luck.
or do i need another apps to have GPS enable.
In GoogleMap, it says searching for GPS, but (0)
Thanks

COM4, 4800baud or anything else, select "Use GPS", and go outside

Without data connection Google Maps wont show any map though, right?

Lindenia said:
Without data connection Google Maps wont show any map though, right?
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Right! So, without data connection, it's either a navigation app (TomTom, copilot, igo etc..) or some app that will show you your coordiantes and more (like nonigpsplot)

hi every one, In Google map, how can i save the map for the next time using? i tryed Navigator Map and Tracky but it seem does'nt work to save map for GM.Sorri for bad English.

Google map does save the maps in a cache folder. But even then, internet connection is always needed. It will just not download the tiles you already have.

Joying 2GB Sofia for a Chevy - LIke it, want to love it

I recently purchased and had professional installed the JY-CL001N2. I like the unit but I feel with the potential it has I could love it. Here are my issues:
1. When I start my vehicle it takes 10 minutes for the GPS to lock. By the time it does, I am almost to my destination. Is there a way to speed that up? I am using GPSLock because once it locks on the signals it, I can tell it what GPS program I want it to open which leads to my second issue.
2. I like using Google Drive. I know that it is Google Maps but with Google Maps you have to select the location or select Drive. Why can't I just select drive. I know where I am going. I just like to use Drive because I can get real time traffic.
3. Since Google Maps does not support speed monitoring I am using Maps Speedometer which I like. It created an overlay on Google Maps and lets me know what my current speed is but I can't get it to open when Google Maps/Drive opens even though I have set it to do so.
4. Is there a way I can set what apps I want to open on startup?
If anyone can offer insight to these issue and/or ways to resolve it, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.