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Hi Guys,
I currently own a HTC Prophet and pretty much use it to the max. I have the latest WM6 ROM flashed and find that it's generally a good device when it works but when it's bogged down and slow, it can be a very annoying device.
I'm considering getting an Atom Life since the cost is low and it has a really fast processor but everywhere I search on the net, I see tonnes of complaints about stability and battery life and what not... It's weird cause spec wise, this device seems really good! Fm tuner, fast processor, tonnes of ROM... the only bad things I can see is that it doesn't support GSM 850 which is used in my area and it doesn't have the best battery life.
1) Is the Atom Life really that bad?
2) Are most of the issues resolved by flashing to WM6?
3) Are there any good extended batteries that fit in the standard case?
Just looking for some reassurance before I buy another WM device that doesn't live up to my expectations...
Thanks.
i don't want say its bad, yes battery issue is there. coz of fast prosessor. others r realy nice to me with WM6.
1) Is the Atom Life really that bad?
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Nope. Usually those who complain about the Atom Life are
a. have too much expectation -> when some should-have-been-expected problems appear, they complain
b. know nothing about Windows Mobile phones -> someone actually told me "matter-of-factly" that WM6 is not more stable than WM5
c. just have bad luck
2) Are most of the issues resolved by flashing to WM6?
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Yes. I got mine pre-flashed to WM6 and have not seen any problems.
3) Are there any good extended batteries that fit in the standard case?
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No. There are extended batteries but they come with a bigger case to fit the larger size. There are many tricks to save battery though. Like I set mine to automatically use the lowest CPU profile at night, even set it to flight mode (cuz I receive no business call at night) and set everything back automatically in the morning.
The main poblems are related to the battery. Get a battery on eBay, and you'll be fine. I bought a 1600 mAh battery there, and that hasn't got the restrat on incoming call problem I had with the original battery. And another thing: After a few months the Atom Life may start giving you trouble, like locking up and not turning on when a call is coming in. Then you do a full hard reset, and everything will be OK again. I used a backup program to make a full backup when I had set it up the first time, and now I just restore that backup, and I have another couple of months of no problems.
And of course, most of the complainers think a phone should be problem free and without bugs. Yeah, sure. That happens the same day Windows, Mac and Linux are bug free. Of course you can make a bugfree phone, but then you're back a functionality level of an old analogue phone!
Thanks for all the advice guys!
Mastiff said:
And of course, most of the complainers think a phone should be problem free and without bugs. Yeah, sure. That happens the same day Windows, Mac and Linux are bug free. Of course you can make a bugfree phone, but then you're back a functionality level of an old analogue phone!
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I'd have to disagree with you here. I've gone through my own set of issues with the HTC prophet and I have a pretty high tolerance for "buggy gadgets". It's not too much to expect a phone to not crash when you do stuff like take a call. It does sound like the Atom Life does have some fundamental Hardware issues which is very disappointing.
just ordered one on ebay to play around with since I'm down a phone now.
I am happy with this phone, I really am. I wish it had 850 on it, but what can you do? The fact that it has 1900 for 3G makes up for it.
Too be honest, my battery life really isnt all that bad, not any worse then any other WM6 Professional phone I own.
I am having problems with my battery life on HD2.
Currently I use ROM Duttys Leo V2.2 with radio 2.06.51.07, but I tried atleast 10-15 different ROMs and radios (Miri/Laurentius26/Xanny/Sternas ROMs and others with all bases from 1.66 up to 2.10).
I made several tests with tbattery and logged the results, this is what i get (Current values):
- screen off -> -13
- screen on 10% -> -83
- screen on 30% -> -102
- screen on 100% -> -214
The tests were made on 2G connection with max signal, with no data connection.
My battery usually barely lasts 2 days with very light usage, with moderate usage i have to charge the phone every day. Maybe this is normal, I just hope it's not...
Can someone throw up some comparison numbers please? I already wanted to bring the phone back and demand a new one but I am not sure if something is actually wrong with it.
BTW, I use MTTY for flashing and always do a hard reset after the first full boot. Tests were done with a clean ROM install, with no aditional processes running.
verry much like this
anyway its normal im affraid of with moderate use and the end of the day i have about 40% left.
Yes, perfectly normal battery life, sorry to disappoint but that's how it goes with smartphones
It is running a computer spec, that, not even 8 years ago, had to rely on mains power. Not to mention the internet router, the screen, the GPS device, and not least the phone which are all inbuilt. I think running it for a day on a battery is pretty impressive personally.
Thanks for the info guys, I feel much better after reading that battery post from kilrah...
I was sure there is something wrong with my device, but when I look at it from rp-x1's point of view, I guess it's not that bad...
mafijozo said:
Thanks for the info guys, I feel much better after reading that battery post from kilrah...
I was sure there is something wrong with my device, but when I look at it from rp-x1's point of view, I guess it's not that bad...
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Sorry to put a downer on you, but its the way I look at it. I know it isn't the biggest capacity battery, which does have a bad effect on battery life, but unfortunately it is a computer with a phone, rather than the other way round.
My previous phones:
Nokia 3310 (basic phone) - a week
Nokia 7610 (one of the first proper mainstream "smartphones" by Nokia) - 3 days
Nokia E90 Communicator (their flagship smartphone) - 2 days - at a push
Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 - 1.5 - 2 days - at a push
Blackberry Bold 9000 - a few days, if I don't actually use it.
HTC HD2 - 1 - 2 days (dependant on usage)
It seems to be the norm for a smartphone/pocketpc to be around a day to a couple of days on a charge.
To add a bit of perspective, my colleague has an iPhone, and it lasted a whole 3 hours on a single charge when using Exchange Push-Mail. It usually only lasts a day too.
At least on the HD2 you can change battery and go on
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At least on the HD2 you can change battery and go on
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Yes you have a point there, when I had my iPhone and used it as much as i use HD2 last few weeks the battery was about the same...
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Yes you have a point there, when I had my iPhone and used it as much as i use HD2 last few weeks the battery was about the same...
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so true i bought a battery from ebay ( was only €4 and its almost as good as the original one, it only fits a bit too tight..) i always have a spare fully charged one in my wallet
Hey people,hows it going?
I have decided to create this thread to help people who arent very happy with their battery life pre/after the 2.1 update.
Aighty guys lets see : The improvements in 2.1 are VERY awesome if you combine it with things to make it total ownage.
Battery Life : Mine lasts 12h with very heavy usage, without usage it can last more than 48h...
Updated since sunday night so i got more than enough experience with it.
If you got bad battery life you can do followings :
1)Root + SetCPU : Lower the "Minimum" quantity so the CPU would idle very lowly and so you get more battery life ,i reccomend getting 245 there (This phase can be dangerous,if you dont know what you're doing ,skip this one)
2)Use Task Manager Pro : Shut down apps that eat the RAM, those who say "unused ram is wasted" , imo thats false as if you got more ram free : More battery life,better phone usage,less lags,and more space in case updates of twitter/fb etc come on ,i usually got around 105mb free always left (Excluded updates for social's & news & weather,live wall,android apps and stuff that i really need)
3)Still not fixed? Get a Battery-life-saver launcher and replace the Home one,as SE didnt work 2.1's home to good so its laggy and battery-eater.
4)Widgets?Have you got loads of news/updates widgets or apps? Try to lower the "Update rate", facebook updates as default each 5 mins,set it to around 2h or so,you dont need less than that.
5)Still pittyful? Check how much you use it, if i use my phone alot i get maybe less than 12h of battery life, but if you use it just the necesary trust me,you can get up to 3 days straight.
Battery life also depends on how much you use it.
5.1)Games specially can use loads of battery,so if you get a use of about 25% in 1 hour,thats very good battery life,so its normal.
5.2)Temperatures in battery can also go upper as you use it ,cause apps and your hand behind the phone cause heat,so you're alright if temp go up to 45ºC,which would be the safe limits. I would panic if it went up to 50ºC.
6)If you have just updated to 2.1 leave it a few days,it is quite bad at first as the system needs to update all its settings ,all its new stuff,just like when you install a new OS on a computer,it needs to "Start windows for the first time".
7)If its still very bad,then your battery might be damaged,get a new one and remember that the first 2-3 charges to take at least 8h,to make sure its lifespan is gonna be high.
In conclusion : Dont just say "My battery life sucks now", Battery depends on how much you use the phone,on how much your apps/timescape/mediascape/Social feeds/News feeds use your phone as much as gps/wifi/bluetooth of it.
Check everything you can,do everything i said and then see if ur battery is damaged or not,cause the 2.1 system didnt do worse,it actually did better than 1.6 after its perfectly settled.
Hope this helps out,take care ^
Regards
very good writeup, which launcher do you recommend?
in regards to this i believe you but it's just not happening to me
please suggest something.
my battery is awesome on standby....but as soon as i turn screen on and play for eg angry birds for 1hr it drops approx 25%. is that how it should be?
no wifi bluetooth gps etc. live wallpaper is there but i also try w/o live wallpaper. i use task killer and kill off unnecessary things
the only thing i haven't done is root and reduce cpu speed because the phone should work quite well w/o me having to do that.
My temp goes up to 43 at times. is that normal?
what am i doing wrong?
thran8 said:
very good writeup, which launcher do you recommend?
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So far , LauncherPro did a very good job for me,there are loads of stuff you can tweak there like even from 3 to 7 homescreens, as you wish,the less the more battery so,depends on which you wish,you can select.
Also Helix Launcher is very famous for beeing able to save battery alot, tho it hasnt got so many options like LauncherPro.
If its very good battery life your searching : Helix Launcher
If you're looking for a good balanced launcher : LauncherPro
Goodluck.
law910 said:
in regards to this i believe you but it's just not happening to me
please suggest something.
my battery is awesome on standby....but as soon as i turn screen on and play for eg angry birds for 1hr it drops approx 25%. is that how it should be?
no wifi bluetooth gps etc. live wallpaper is there but i also try w/o live wallpaper. i use task killer and kill off unnecessary things
the only thing i haven't done is root and reduce cpu speed because the phone should work quite well w/o me having to do that.
what am i doing wrong?
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25% in a hour after playing? Yes that is normal as games stress the CPU and screen brightness to max, so yes after gaming the battery does suffer a bit.
Nah if you dont want dont reduce cpu min speed.
Imo ,charge the phone completely , then right after charging , play Angry birds for 1h again and check battery. Sometimes the battery discharges faster than other times (Depends on the charge of it, if its @ 95% it will go down alot faster,unlike if its at 30%,it will go down slower. Its just a battery theory that is accurate most of the time)
So check from what % you started playing to what % you've stopped playing.
Tell me the results then.
And then i repeat,make sure you reduce facebook/twitter/email "update rate".
(More time(once in 2h not in each 5 mins) = Better cause it will access the internet less so more battery)
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2)Use Task Manager Pro : Shut down apps that eat the RAM, those who say "unused ram is wasted" , imo thats false as if you got more ram free : More battery life,better phone usage,less lags,and more space in case updates of twitter/fb etc come on ,i usually got around 105mb free always left (Excluded updates for social's & news & weather,live wall,android apps and stuff that i really need)
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I used to support it, till I opened my mind to those theories, so now I argued. With many reading and my own experiment, I would still argue that droid are doing best it could.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777034
With my summary, without ATK could result in even better battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678205&page=10
Some technical statement about android memory.
HOWEVER,
To correct your statement, it's TRUE that leaving more processes behind could result in significant drain of battery, but this is due to CPU usage, not RAM.
So yes, Leaving some process which draining CPU power behind could give much worse battery life.
So IMO, it more depends on your background process, but I would say that in most situation, just leave the droid do its job
7)If its still very bad,then your battery might be damaged,get a new one and remember that the first 2-3 charges to take at least 8h,to make sure its lifespan is gonna be high.
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You don't need that any longer. But it's true that the lifespan could be 'higher' after a few usage, but this is due to 'calibration', not the performance of the battery itself.
Imagine
real battery is 10%, android report 3%
real battery is 90%, android report 100%
so you are using only 10% to 90%, that considered 20% lose.
Li-po batteries ain't meant to be drain to the last, if you do thy won't last and you soon be needing to replace your battery, I would think that it is programmed to monitor the usage to not do that but the battery % that you see is not actually whats left on the battery itself.
I was reading a pdf ebook and the battery dropped around 35% in 2 hours :S
I'm running the battery test in the service menu at the moment to see if my battery is faulty.
I don't use a manager - i don't use setCpu and I can easily get 24 hours + since 2.1
I'm just saying .
I stream music from di.fm using wifi 8h/day.
My phone lasts about 4h so, i have to charge it 3 times/day
Now, i want to see tips how to improve this
Herr Noobien said:
I was reading a pdf ebook and the battery dropped around 35% in 2 hours :S
I'm running the battery test in the service menu at the moment to see if my battery is faulty.
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good idea never knew battery test existed in the service menu =]
shall try it tonight
just have a look on the attached photo , i took the photo when the indicator was 15% , still i can ran the phone for another 2 or 3 hours .
I don't know for sure, but it seems to me that the display chews through more battery than before.
Could be that I'm playing games too much but I don't think so. I seem to get the same battery life on idle, but as soon as I do anything (esp. games or talking) the battery just seems to nosedive. Never noticed this before (I used to get two-three days depending on the usage now I'm down to a day or two).
I'm gonna try and do some tests over the next while (starting with flashing back to 1.6 and retesting that properly).
tipically, display (screen) accounts for 2/3s of the total battery usage
check the battery usage app (settings -> battery), you'll be amazed
then make a simple test:
reduce brightness by half and your battery will last A LOT longer
Personaly, I prefer to carry my charger than dimming the screen
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gtrab said:
tipically, display (screen) accounts for 2/3s of the total battery usage
check the battery usage app (settings -> battery), you'll be amazed
then make a simple test:
reduce brightness by half and your battery will last A LOT longer
Personaly, I prefer to carry my charger than dimming the screen
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Back,soz my internet crashed -_-
And true,the Screen uses 2/3 or even more, everytime i check it sucks around 75% or so if you use it alot.
Also @Cebees Yes thats true,thats why i sugested a task manager Cutting processes cleans ram memory but also cleans cpu usage.
True you can let the droid do its things but most of the time its not Droid who is eating the battery to death,its 3rd party apps which remain On even after usage (Like when you select a live wall and then change it,the other remains on and some walls arent very good optimized so ...if 1 Live-wall eats a bit of battery,imagine 3 or 4 ?)
Also : Gaming / GPS navigation And Wifi Navigating are the main and most power hungry tasks for a phone to do,so its normal that if you're doing any of those,the battery lasts like nothing.
One Tip : Always take ur charger with you Also take the MicroUSB->USB cable off your charger and use it while your in your car (Buy a Cigarette->USB adaptor,costs less than 10 quid) and then you can charge it while you're in your/your dad's car, that way you'll maintain the battery a bit more alive.
Also if you really think your battery just isnt up for your needs, there is a 3600mAh (Think its Called Mugen 3600 or smth)battery out there for the X10,it is kinda bulky but it doubles and some times even more the life of the normal 1500mAh Stock battery.
Btw,if you want to buy a new battery and a 3600mAh one is too expensive,try to get a 2000+ one...as there was tested that up to 1800mAh arent exactly Shiny,just a very slight (Minutes)improvement over the stock 1500mAh one.
As you can see,there's loads of things that can cause a battery life to be poor
So keep on trying ^^ Im sure it will all go great.
I charged mine yesterday at morning,and i still got 67% Today,so i believe i can manage a total of 3 days straight ...and i did eventually use my phone to listen to music,put some live walls and make some calls.
Also trust me...the Launcher does make a diference,specially if you get the Helix one...i used it and my battery used to manage up to almost 5 days straight (With little use).
Oh and @Cebees : I know that the 8hour thing isnt exactly necesary today , but eventhought they say its not ,i believe i've been told by someone who knows about this that its good for the battery to be totally maxed in the first charges and then left to total emptyness(if possible until phone shuts down or is about to) that way it does calibrate (As you said before) and it does also maximise its life (Technically,i could be wrong , but my always done that with my wife's and daughter's phone and they always worked like a charm and trust me ,my daughter cant get her hands off her phone -_-)
Regards
xtrmshadow said:
Hey people,hows it going?
I have decided to create this thread to help people who arent very happy with their battery life pre/after the 2.1 update.
Aighty guys lets see : The improvements in 2.1 are VERY awesome if you combine it with things to make it total ownage.
Battery Life : Mine lasts 24h with very heavy usage, without usage it can last more than 48h...
Updated since sunday night so i got more than enough experience with it.
If you got bad battery life you can do followings :
1)Root + SetCPU : Lower the "Minimum" quantity so the CPU would idle very lowly and so you get more battery life ,i reccomend getting 245 there.
2)Use Task Manager Pro : Shut down apps that eat the RAM, those who say "unused ram is wasted" , imo thats false as if you got more ram free : More battery life,better phone usage,less lags,and more space in case updates of twitter/fb etc come on ,i usually got around 105mb free always left (Excluded updates for social's & news & weather,live wall,android apps and stuff that i really need)
3)Still not fixed? Get a Battery-life-saver launcher and replace the Home one,as SE didnt work 2.1's home to good so its laggy and battery-eater.
4)Widgets?Have you got loads of news/updates widgets or apps? Try to lower the "Update rate", facebook updates as default each 5 mins,set it to around 2h or so,you dont need less than that.
5)Still pittyful? Check how much you use it, if i use my phone alot i get maybe less than 12h of battery life, but if you use it just the necesary trust me,you can get up to 3 days straight.
Battery life also depends on how much you use it.
6)If you have just updated to 2.1 leave it a few days,it is quite bad at first as the system needs to update all its settings ,all its new stuff,just like when you install a new OS on a computer,it needs to "Start windows for the first time".
7)If its still very bad,then your battery might be damaged,get a new one and remember that the first 2-3 charges to take at least 8h,to make sure its lifespan is gonna be high.
In conclusion : Dont just say "My battery life sucks now", Battery depends on how much you use the phone,on how much your apps/timescape/mediascape/Social feeds/News feeds use your phone as much as gps/wifi/bluetooth of it.
Check everything you can,do everything i said and then see if ur battery is damaged or not,cause the 2.1 system didnt do worse,it actually did better than 1.6 after its perfectly settled.
Hope this helps out,take care ^
Regards
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Something bothers me here. During your intro, you say with "very heavy" usage, you get 24 hours battery. Then. In step 5, you say that if you use your phone alot, you get maybe less than 12 hours usage. I dont get it. :-S
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lawless_benji said:
Something bothers me here. During your intro, you say with "very heavy" usage, you get 24 hours battery. Then. In step 5, you say that if you use your phone alot, you get maybe less than 12 hours usage. I dont get it. :-S
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lol ups,yeah the 24h thing is a mistake,ima correct that.
Thanks ^
xtrmshadow said:
lol ups,yeah the 24h thing is a mistake,ima correct that.
Thanks ^
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Cool! No problem!
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My battery life got worse on 2.1.
On 1.6 I would unplug my phone at 6:20 am and listen to music for an hour then I would mess with my phone a little bit between 7:20 and 2:15. Then after that I would listen to music for another hour while surfing facebook. By time I get home at 3:20 I'm down to 60 percent. But if I do that on 2.1 by time I get home I'll be at 30 percent. Also I have juice defender ultimate that shuts off my 3g everytime the screen is off.
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http://www.appbrain.com/app/autokiller-memory-optimizer/com.rs.autokiller
I'd prefer this one rather than auto task killer
a bit friendly for droid, except chuck norris one.
I'm on Twilight DFC ( last version with htc hub )
Rom use : 2.14.50
HSPL : 2.08
card SD : micro SD sandisk 4Go class 4
Magldr : 1.3
Use : no really ( check my mails every 3 hours , 20 sms per day , little internet with 3g.
Désactivated : my 3g, wifi, localisation for a better battery level. My emails are checking just every hour by option.
Results : 100% at 8 A.m , 20% at 7 P.m ...
The battery are very drain...
with rom 2.15.50 it is the same
rom i have use : xmob 1.3 / 1.4 , moonlight ... and.. it is the same problem.
Please help me .
Same issue here. It's about 60mA battery drain, guess something wrong in power management.
You've most likely forgot to disable bluetooth completley. There is a 60mA BT bug in some roms.
bluetooth is off, but the battery running time is still bad. What Radio Rom is definitely the best ?
How to completely turn off bluetooth? It was turned off in settings
Yes, Settings/Bluetooth disable
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bluetooth is off, but the battery running time is still bad. What Radio Rom is definitely the best ?
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2.12.50 with the battery tweak found in the development subforum gives me over a day with moderate to heavy usage (games, 3G internet, 3 e-mail [email protected] min, 30 min. voice calls). In standby (only mail sync on) I get 10-12% battery drop over the night.
Wait for a few recharge cycles and it will settle. At first I got 12-15 hrs. After 2 weeks it got MUCH better.
is your batter being charged propperly?
The battery tweak sets the full level for the battery.
you must first charge the battery to its maximum level then run the reg tweak
Now here is the problem, WP7 on our HD2 will not charge the full batter all of the time. Quite often you must charge until it goes green, then reboot and charge so more, keep repeating until the HTC battery tool reports the ACR level roughly the same as the FULL level.
to give you an idea
Ive just charged my phone over night, it says its full, it wont charge any more but the tool reports it only half full, even though the indicator shows full. But my battery life will drop like a rock and may report being empty when its not.
If i restart my phone just now the tool shows a jump in ACR value to about 800mAh it then allows me to charge the remaining 400mAh.
or you might find that restarting it shows the battery is full in both indicator and ACR value
The point is, after a full charge, restart the phone because until you do the phone doesnt appear to know whats goig on wth the battery, im guessing this is something to do with the fact that the HD7 and HD2 DO have some small differences inside.
I think what frustrates me more than anything else is the sheer unpredictability of my battery performance. I have done all the tweaks and installed the battery tool but overnight in the past week I have seen the battery go down as low as about 15-20% and remain as high as 80% with a range in between (estimated values, of course).
I'm now going to try to look at my data usage to see if anything is causing the radio to work extra hard some nights and not on others.
If it was at least consistent I could then start thinking about Radio versions, management strategies and the like but while it's so variable it a bit hard to get scientific with it...!
indeed it is a bit of a pain but remember we were never ment to have this ROM.
remember though it might be unpredictable because its not full, its not as easy as it sems to get a full charge, even when htc battery tool and MS tells us its full it might not be, persistant restart and charge usually gets it done
It is definitely battery problem exists! Don't try to hide it because all that stuff you are talking here to solve that is not working! Test in 2G network without any BT and WiFi during 24h failed, battery completely drained without reason.
no one is saying there isnt a problem, there are seveal problems
The big one is you shouldnt have WP7 on your HD2, our device was not supported, you cant say the HTC HD7 is the same because it is not, largely it is yes, but internally it has differences, one of these differences seem to be the controler for the battery
To be clear, WP7 cant report the correct battery level without tweaking it, and in some instances WP7 will not completely charge your phone but it may appear full there by leading to quick battery drainage
I second that. I think it's the matter of hit and miss. I have two hd2s, and one of them has ****e battery life. Both are using the same rom, same radio, same battery optimisation technique btw.
I bought an HD7 cause of the battery drainage of WP7 HD2, multi touching, downloading from market e.t.c!
I know HD2 is better than HD7 because you can have everything but... WP7 is my thing ya know??? So if you guys liked WP7 just go out there and buy your selves an official WP7 device! Believe me i l.o.v.e it and i will stick with it!
Battery life on HD7 is stunning! I have it running 3 days now and now i have 20% with moderate use..
arkatis said:
I bought an HD7 cause of the battery drainage of WP7 HD2, multi touching, downloading from market e.t.c!
I know HD2 is better than HD7 because you can have everything but... WP7 is my thing ya know??? So if you guys liked WP7 just go out there and buy your selves an official WP7 device! Believe me i l.o.v.e it and i will stick with it!
Battery life on HD7 is stunning! I have it running 3 days now and now i have 20% with moderate use..
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Worse recommendation I ever saw. When first android port was released, there was huge battery drainage too but now I'm using android on my HD2 with 3 days batt life and I didn't buy new android device. So it can be fixed without wasting money.
In my opinion..Android is boring.. I know that battery life on Android HD2 is awesome but the OS is very Boring... When i flashed WP7 i said "this will be my daily OS" (i love simplicity..)... At that time i needed to charge my battery daily and i was a little bored of the hard keys and battery and stuff like that! (also i had some lost pixels on the screen) Didn't wanted to go back to Android though! So why do i have to keep my boring HD2??? Since i wanted to run WP7 as a daily OS i got my new HD7 (for 150Euro)
I am Just telling my opinion and i hope you agree with me...
I am a tech lover guy...Yesterday was iPhone, after that HD2,today HD7 and God knows what else for tomorrow!
where to get an hd7 for 150,- euro????? i'll going out and get two of them, too
for me wp7 is boring until now. almost no customization.. when you want to turn off data or wifi or bt you have to navigate through 2 or 3 menus.
and it is slow even though there are beautiful animations. (contacts open in about 2 seconds and in android it is about 0,5 seconds)
i am all for simplicity as long as you have all functions and speed.
btw battery is enough for 1 day with moderate use but forget using it from early morning and a long partynight
(camera issue still a bummer)
im all up for opinions on here....so ill give me own
Im sorry but i have not seen a more fluid and resposive device then the HD2 with WP7, iphone, android on various models even WP7 on other devices dont appear as quick as mine but thats the luck of the draw with using our HD2 some folk have had issues others think its amazing. contacts for me, around 200ish load instantly
luck of the draw
battery life is a concern still as is the camera other than that all is good
arkatis said:
In my opinion..Android is boring.. I know that battery life on Android HD2 is awesome but the OS is very Boring... When i flashed WP7 i said "this will be my daily OS" (i love simplicity..)... At that time i needed to charge my battery daily and i was a little bored of the hard keys and battery and stuff like that! (also i had some lost pixels on the screen) Didn't wanted to go back to Android though! So why do i have to keep my boring HD2??? Since i wanted to run WP7 as a daily OS i got my new HD7 (for 150Euro)
I am Just telling my opinion and i hope you agree with me...
I am a tech lover guy...Yesterday was iPhone, after that HD2,today HD7 and God knows what else for tomorrow!
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I'm not agree. You didn't notice that "super simple" WM7 consuming more energy than "boring" android? And what a point of this?
You know what, rich people always bored. I got my first iphone (3gs) just 3 month ago, and HD2 was like a gift from my friends in America.
Having tried just about everything to prolong the life of the battery on my Desire HD, I think that I have, at last, found a real solution.
I did not like the idea of buying a spare battery mainly due to the flimsy battery compartment on the phone and the thought of constantly swapping batteries. Swapping batteries would also involve switching off the phone and losing data (for example, if you are using GPS to track your movements).
I have tried lots of software solutions, most of which help to give me an hour or two of extra life. My favourite software solution is Juice Defender, which works well within the limits of HTC's awful battery.
Someone on another thread recommended the TechNet external charger, which packs a 5,000ma charge - enough for four full recharges of the HD phone. It plugs into the micro USB port on the phone and charges the phone as though it is connected to the power supply. It hot-charges, which means you don't need to swap batteries or switch off the phone. The device comes with lots of adaptors to charge lots of different devices. There is also an 11,000ma version... enough for 10 recharges.
Available on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000NDQ92W/ref=oss_product
It also looks good and comes with a travel pouch and is smaller than the HD phone itself so slips into a bag without a problem.
Looks promising. Thanks for the info bobby!
I purchased this before I went back to nz for Xmas. Well worth the purchase, has saved me several times. One thing to be mindful of is that if you accidentally turn it on without realising, the battery will drain, even if its not charging anything.
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Is the battery really that awful? I can use the phone for 24hrs (including stand-by time, 14-16hrshrs of usage time) with wifi, 3g constantly on until I need a charge.
Which is really more then enough time for me in between charges, unless you go on trip for days without access to a computer or an wall socket.
Its nice to have a phone which last for days like the old days, but it really has no inconvenience charging it once a day, right?
+1 , left my phone in work the other day after reasonable useage in the time I was in work 0900-2000, came in the following morning , to find 13% charge remaining and that was in-spite of my alarm going off
I find that if you put your phone in power saving mode, even the remaining 10% can last you for almost a day.
Its quite useful if you know you gonna leave ur phone for a period of time.
Actually it would be quite useful to have a toggle widget to do that on ur home screen instead letting it activating itself below a set percentage. Is there any?
Howdy,
I was so frustrated with the battery usage I nearly ditched the phone. I decided to apply a different rom after reading and considering many posted here I went with Coredroid, which I downloaded from this site. (had the original vodafone rom) Great support and documentation and tons of help if it goes south.
I can say as of now my phone is 5 times at least faster and the battery life has extended 300%.
When you check battery usage the I found the number one battery killer is Display. With Coredroid its about the 5th item on the list. Wireless and bluetooth and the biggest now (if you can call them real big) but they are easy to turn on/off.
I was very nervous about a custom rom but I needed something. I can only recommend you look at other roms apart from you stock one -Im assuming. (Im not sure what warranty etc rules are gone, personally I don't care)
Cheers
Gamma
Yes, that was me, with the external battery pack/charger
Well, it's a heavy phone already, a huge screen to light up and render -it's pretty clear where the power is needed. But would the bulk associated with another 400mah really have tipped the DHD over the edge?
Anyway, it's designed now, and nothing can be done about that. I'm quite happy with it lasting until the night for normal/heavy usage (about 16 hours) - with it's out-of-the-box form factor.
And for those occasions when I'm using GPS tracking apps out in the open for 5-6 hours, broadcasting my location to a website, hooking it up to the external pack (mine is in fact a New Trent one, 5000mah) means it won't drain unexpectedly. That is, with 5000+1260mah combined!
The battery pack provides a "full" charge in about 2 hours, that is just like a mains charger (it is rated up to 1amp output, providing of course whatever amperage the device pulls).
That pack might be a solution for the battery problem, but I still don't think it's enough. I don't think that you should have to buy a portable power pack just for your phone battery to last. The whole point of mobile phones is that you have access to a medium of communication in a remote location. By not making the battery life long on a phone, I reckon HTC are actually limiting its main use. But that's just my 2 cents, and it does depend on how people like to use their phones.
5000 mah is not enough, why not make it larger
Thanks for the info.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Trent-I...rry/dp/B004CHMP50/ref=acc_glance_ce_ai_ps_t_2
New Trent Extreme Pack IMP1000 11000mAh External Battery
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looceci said:
5000 mah is not enough, why not make it larger
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You must love the 1240Ma battery that comes with the phone.
You've enabled USB Debugging, yeah? I get 2 days, and I work in the middle of nowhere. The phone polls for a new cell constantly while I'm in my office.
If signal is good in your area, tell the phone to use GSM or WCDMA exclusively. Otherwise it will switch to whichever has the better signal, which can be problematic is you're in an area with good / poor coverage of both technologies.
I think the polling thing might be a big battery killer. I shall try that.
I friend of mine in the office, use to have a Sony smart phone that barely lasted a day and thats on standby. He ditched that for a DHD. His battery now lasts 4 days plus, with minmal use! Mine on ther other hand with minimal use can give 2days at most.
The difference is that he is on ORANGE and I am on T-Mobile. It must be down to signal strength because he use to be on THREE and the signal strength was very poor at his home location.
BTW, I find that Juice Defender does help and switiching off Flash in the browser.
This charger and the USB-Batteries are the best inventions ever
It would be great if this phone got accessory support like the fruit phone does. An extended battery case would be the most optimal solution to this problem but I haven't heard of any out there yet
P.S send me a PM if anyone finds an external battery case
how is it compare to eneloop 5000mah?
Ah! I need that one for when i go camping