Is the Atom Life really that bad? - iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom General

Hi Guys,
I currently own a HTC Prophet and pretty much use it to the max. I have the latest WM6 ROM flashed and find that it's generally a good device when it works but when it's bogged down and slow, it can be a very annoying device.
I'm considering getting an Atom Life since the cost is low and it has a really fast processor but everywhere I search on the net, I see tonnes of complaints about stability and battery life and what not... It's weird cause spec wise, this device seems really good! Fm tuner, fast processor, tonnes of ROM... the only bad things I can see is that it doesn't support GSM 850 which is used in my area and it doesn't have the best battery life.
1) Is the Atom Life really that bad?
2) Are most of the issues resolved by flashing to WM6?
3) Are there any good extended batteries that fit in the standard case?
Just looking for some reassurance before I buy another WM device that doesn't live up to my expectations...
Thanks.

i don't want say its bad, yes battery issue is there. coz of fast prosessor. others r realy nice to me with WM6.

1) Is the Atom Life really that bad?
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Nope. Usually those who complain about the Atom Life are
a. have too much expectation -> when some should-have-been-expected problems appear, they complain
b. know nothing about Windows Mobile phones -> someone actually told me "matter-of-factly" that WM6 is not more stable than WM5
c. just have bad luck
2) Are most of the issues resolved by flashing to WM6?
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Yes. I got mine pre-flashed to WM6 and have not seen any problems.
3) Are there any good extended batteries that fit in the standard case?
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No. There are extended batteries but they come with a bigger case to fit the larger size. There are many tricks to save battery though. Like I set mine to automatically use the lowest CPU profile at night, even set it to flight mode (cuz I receive no business call at night) and set everything back automatically in the morning.

The main poblems are related to the battery. Get a battery on eBay, and you'll be fine. I bought a 1600 mAh battery there, and that hasn't got the restrat on incoming call problem I had with the original battery. And another thing: After a few months the Atom Life may start giving you trouble, like locking up and not turning on when a call is coming in. Then you do a full hard reset, and everything will be OK again. I used a backup program to make a full backup when I had set it up the first time, and now I just restore that backup, and I have another couple of months of no problems.
And of course, most of the complainers think a phone should be problem free and without bugs. Yeah, sure. That happens the same day Windows, Mac and Linux are bug free. Of course you can make a bugfree phone, but then you're back a functionality level of an old analogue phone!

Thanks for all the advice guys!
Mastiff said:
And of course, most of the complainers think a phone should be problem free and without bugs. Yeah, sure. That happens the same day Windows, Mac and Linux are bug free. Of course you can make a bugfree phone, but then you're back a functionality level of an old analogue phone!
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I'd have to disagree with you here. I've gone through my own set of issues with the HTC prophet and I have a pretty high tolerance for "buggy gadgets". It's not too much to expect a phone to not crash when you do stuff like take a call. It does sound like the Atom Life does have some fundamental Hardware issues which is very disappointing.

just ordered one on ebay to play around with since I'm down a phone now.

I am happy with this phone, I really am. I wish it had 850 on it, but what can you do? The fact that it has 1900 for 3G makes up for it.
Too be honest, my battery life really isnt all that bad, not any worse then any other WM6 Professional phone I own.

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red light of death after only two weeks

if you thinking of buying this phone.. dont. its gps is shifty at best, unless you clock its processor down to 475 its not stable, its sound is by far the worst i have ever experienced in all my pda's and today it hit a new low, with 50% power on the battery bar i had to do a reset ~sigh~ AGAIN and lo and behold, the red light of death.. on a two week old device.
Used the stripped usb wires to charge the battery out of the device to fix it but im sure most users would not understand or want to have to go down this route everytime their phone flipped out or froze to the red light of death.
SHAME ON YOU HTC!
nauseum said:
if you thinking of buying this phone.. dont. its gps is shifty at best, unless you clock its processor down to 475 its not stable, its sound is by far the worst i have ever experienced in all my pda's and today it hit a new low, with 50% power on the battery bar i had to do a reset ~sigh~ AGAIN and lo and behold, the red light of death.. on a two week old device.
Used the stripped usb wires to charge the battery out of the device to fix it but im sure most users would not understand or want to have to go down this route everytime their phone flipped out or froze to the red light of death.
SHAME ON YOU HTC!
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I've had this puppy for more than a year now and have never ever seen a red light of death.. (don't even know what you're on about)..
I find the sound quite acceptable and rarely have any problems with stability, the ones I do have are mostly, if not all, down to the various roms I have been trying. (Never had to clock my proc down to whatever value)
The GPS is not the best there is out there, but very workable.
Lastly, I have never ever ever had to charge my battery with a stripped pair of USB wires...
Never had stability problem
Never try to overclock it too
Mad tuners had hard life
I have trinity for about a year and half it is working just perfectly. Sound, amazing sound with bose in ear headphones. GPS works every damn time . Infact I was in canada for three weeks to travel, trinity gps was just perfect. I have not found pda that are this good. I had bought iphone too, I just liked the display, and that just all. Steve Jobs ****ed lotta people with iphone.
PS this is the p3600i , rom 3.00.707.18, radio 1.46.30.11 unbranded, no where ese to post for the newer trinity so im posting here.
must have very bad luck then, but in this very forum the bad sound issue is addressed by many people, on both the old trinity and the new one. one claims it can be fixed by tightening a screw in the speaker area, not prepared to open a three week old phone yet ) and the red light of death is common amongst older (sic) htc phone models (suggest searching forums??) , and most technicians, including the old O2 guys in Brisbane would not "repair" the device for under $200, i had to fix my xda2 red light of death with the stripped usb wires fix which incidently i got of these forums as well. The issue arises from the battery being depleted below a certain point where not even a wall charger will charge it anymore. Not that htc support will tell you that tho.
a post on the Cnet review of this device has another user quoting exactly the same problem (wish i had read that first), possibly the newer model or firmware is glitchy. I notice my battery drops from 80% directly to 50% and then suddenly 20% etc.
the gps is a lot more usefull if you underclock the device from 500 down to 475 or lower to reduce heat issues when using gps and 3g connection at same time, which somehow affects gps reception.
I still get a better overall phone experience from my old 6515! And thats saying a lot.
I suppose if your phone is a toy then its not a problem, but when you need a stable working device this one sucks for the price ticket it is sold for.
corfou said:
Never had stability problem
Never try to overclock it too
Mad tuners had hard life
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i wish i needed to overclock, i have to underclock
nauseum said:
unless you clock its processor down to 475 its not stable
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maybe i did not understand correctly but the default clock of trinity is... 400MHz; if you clock it DOWN to 475 in reality you are already OVER!
Nope,
PS this is the p3600i
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P3600: Samsung 400 Mhz, P3600i: Samsung 500 Mhz
Greetz
virbotrix said:
Nope,
P3600: Samsung 400 Mhz, P3600i: Samsung 500 Mhz
Greetz
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sorry.
what about cpu temperature monitoring? I come from computer cpu overclocking school

Battery Drains to early!

hey people tell me what could be the problem?? My battery drains all in a day or sometimes i have to recharge it twice in a day, but without any use it drains in two days?? what do you think is the problem?? Is the Battery Weak???
Second if i wont to buy a new battery how many mAh should it be?? My current is 1250mAh. Would a 1800mAh be of the same size as this one? will it work and fit fine in the case??
Please do reply. Thanks in Advance.
First, some more information is needed:
Are you overclocking? This is the single most likely candidate for faster battery consumption.
Are you running anything that requires a lot of processor power? Animations like the TouchFlo Cube and PointUI are hard on batteries.
How old is the phone, and subsequently the battery?
Are you leaving a lot of programs active but minimized? This can also hit the processor harder, which results again in faster battery drain.
With regards to battery replacements, I will let someone with experience in that area give you suggestions (and I will eavesdrop, because I have an old phone and am concerned about replacement myself...).
Myrddin Wyllt said:
First, some more information is needed:
Are you overclocking? This is the single most likely candidate for faster battery consumption.
Are you running anything that requires a lot of processor power? Animations like the TouchFlo Cube and PointUI are hard on batteries.
How old is the phone, and subsequently the battery?
Are you leaving a lot of programs active but minimized? This can also hit the processor harder, which results again in faster battery drain.
With regards to battery replacements, I will let someone with experience in that area give you suggestions (and I will eavesdrop, because I have an old phone and am concerned about replacement myself...).
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1. Im not oveclocking
2. Im running Touch Commander Suite
3. My Phone is 2 years old.
4. I leave no program minimized except one tht runs in background.
Now what can you advice?
The 1250mAh is the standard size battery for the Wizard. Anything bigger than 1250mAh will be thicker and need a bigger battery cover. I replaced mine with a new 1250mAh after 18 months of use because I didn't want to make my phone any thicker.
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The 1250mAh is the standard size battery for the Wizard. Anything bigger than 1250mAh will be thicker and need a bigger battery cover. I replaced mine with a new 1250mAh after 18 months of use because I didn't want to make my phone any thicker.
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How much time does your new 1250mAh battery takes to discharge:
1.When nothing spcl is done except reading SMS or Calling?
2.When loads of work is done like listening songs, watching videos, using Wifi/GPRS?
xda2_haseeb said:
1. Im not oveclocking
2. Im running Touch Commander Suite
3. My Phone is 2 years old.
4. I leave no program minimized except one tht runs in background.
Now what can you advice?
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How about WiFi? Do you leave it on? How about GPRS? Both radios are power-hungry, and should be shut off while not in use. Sure, it means a little wait on starting programs that require a connection, but it also means having enough battery to finish what you're doing. Which, if you've ever been lost in a strange town without a Thomas Guide, you'll agree is damned important.
Short of that, and the obvious (and relatively cheap) alternative of buying another battery, I have to point the finger at Touch Commander Suite.
Run Task Manager 3.1 (Dotfred) on your device. If TCS is using less than 5MB while running, I'll eat my hat (you'll just have to trust that I've eaten it, though... ). More crap in RAM means less battery life. It's not as dramatic a drain as the WiFi radio (the worst culprit of all), but it's probably in the top 5.
1.I dont leave anything on when im not using it.
so What would you say? should i remove Touch COmmander and install SPB Mobile Shell or anyother SPB software? will they be less battery consuming?
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hasseb try a diferent rom...it may be the software that is draining your battery....anyway a battery shows signs of use after 2 years and a half....so if another rom doesn't do the trick...i think it's time to buy a new 1250mAh battery...other batteries can damage your phone because they have a larger energy output....and congratulations...you are a senior member now
Thanks for the info and thanks for congratulating me on becoming Senioe member. I guess the real problem was Touch Commander Suite, i uninstalled it but still timing is less so i have to buy a new battery.

Share your experiences with Topaz (Diamond2)

I'm considering buying Diamond2 and glad to hear your experiences with device..I checked the forum posts and I noticed many problems like quick battery drain, heating issues
I also find good reviews of Omnia II so It is really difficult to decide between OmniaII and diamond2
OmniaII better hardware but bad UI and less support
Diamond2 better UI (touch flo 3d) and good support but hardware issues
Your help will be very appreciated
well, having TD2 for 5 months now, I cand say some things. I have read the forum from April till now and many problems have occured. But many of there, I haven't witnessed in my device. The whole idea is that luck plays a major part here. Depending on what device you receive.
My battery lasts about 4 days with some calls, music not so much internet and a lot of texting. Seems okay to me.
other problems ... practically non-existent. I must add that it all depends on what you want form your device. There a re many who start changing settings in registery, changing windows mobile and so on and they end up asking what to do. If you mind your own business, nothing bad will come to you
Hope this helps. Cheers!! <any more questions, will be happy to answer>
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well, having TD2 for 5 months now, I cand say some things. I have read the forum from April till now and many problems have occured. But many of there, I haven't witnessed in my device. The whole idea is that luck plays a major part here. Depending on what device you receive.
My battery lasts about 4 days with some calls, music not so much internet and a lot of texting. Seems okay to me.
other problems ... practically non-existent. I must add that it all depends on what you want form your device. There a re many who start changing settings in registery, changing windows mobile and so on and they end up asking what to do. If you mind your own business, nothing bad will come to you
Hope this helps. Cheers!! <any more questions, will be happy to answer>
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Agree!
I have the TD2 and it's worked perfectly all along. The battery drain is a factor with heavy use, but not more so than any other smart phone.
georgeono said:
well, having TD2 for 5 months now, I cand say some things. I have read the forum from April till now and many problems have occured. But many of there, I haven't witnessed in my device. The whole idea is that luck plays a major part here. Depending on what device you receive.
My battery lasts about 4 days with some calls, music not so much internet and a lot of texting. Seems okay to me.
other problems ... practically non-existent. I must add that it all depends on what you want form your device. There a re many who start changing settings in registery, changing windows mobile and so on and they end up asking what to do. If you mind your own business, nothing bad will come to you
Hope this helps. Cheers!! <any more questions, will be happy to answer>
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How's that possible
4 day of use of dt2
only on standby and little usage
i know the best of it with usage is about 2 days
Cairo_ said:
How's that possible
4 day of use of dt2
only on standby and little usage
i know the best of it with usage is about 2 days
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It is possible...
Here, using Nataly`s ROM and the newest Radio, I can get ~3 days with 1 full charge, and thats because I charge my phone when it gets about 25% remaining charge (Im afraid to need to use the GPS or something and the battery dies )
haranbh said:
It is possible...
Here, using Nataly`s ROM and the newest Radio, I can get ~3 days with 1 full charge, and thats because I charge my phone when it gets about 25% remaining charge (Im afraid to need to use the GPS or something and the battery dies )
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You are right
but i paid a lot for this set to use it with all of its features
not to keep the battery life
Cairo_ said:
You are right
but i paid a lot for this set to use it with all of its features
not to keep the battery life
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Who said that I don`t use all features ? I just don`t use ALL the time...
I don`t need to be with my phone on hands all the time... I hardly use GPS (using Garmin Mobile XT), SMS text, MP3 player and phone calls.. Still can get this battery life.
Thank you for your replies,
With TESS 3.4 and Radio 3.47 I'd get 3 days with around a half-hour wifi use per day, light texting and calls, updating weather, g/f playing bubble breaker etc.
Very capable device, immensely happy with it.
haranbh said:
Who said that I don`t use all features ? I just don`t use ALL the time...
I don`t need to be with my phone on hands all the time... I hardly use GPS (using Garmin Mobile XT), SMS text, MP3 player and phone calls.. Still can get this battery life.
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If i use th MP3 player for an hour i loose battery life about 20%??
so how's that possible
and my phone still new using the stock windows
Cairo_ said:
If i use th MP3 player for an hour i loose battery life about 20%??
so how's that possible
and my phone still new using the stock windows
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THAT is the problem..
You are using STOCK ROM (Windows)...
Just see the benchmarks of all ROMs and you can see that stock ROM SUCK all ways !!!
Just flash a new ROM and see the difference.
haranbh said:
THAT is the problem..
You are using STOCK ROM (Windows)...
Just see the benchmarks of all ROMs and you can see that stock ROM SUCK all ways !!!
Just flash a new ROM and see the difference.
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i also tried dutty r5 and got worse results
i will try TESS
sry for the off topic
other than the battery issue
the phone is all what you want in a phone
Cairo_ said:
i also tried dutty r5 and got worse results
i will try TESS
sry for the off topic
other than the battery issue
the phone is all what you want in a phone
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Well, the problem is... All LEO ROMs are power drainers... Just try TESS 2F or Nataly`s ok!
i get average power drain on Dutty's ROM (R5).
lasts between 1.5-3 days...depending on what i do.
seeing as i use my bluetooth headset to listen to musice, while jogging/cycling in the forest and using the GPS/Garmin XT AND then browse WebCT at university via WiFi...i dont think ANY device would last much more than 1 day... and yet it does... AND i call and sms 1-5 times a day. (short calls though.)
as for the diamond as such, my ONLY complaint is the shiny back cover...i WISH it was matte (it will be soon with my matte acrylic paint coming)... everything else is AWESOME! (except the standard keyboard...i still have to find a new one i like.)
hope that helps

Battery Life Problem with HD2 - Help Reqd

So I finally got rid of my iPhone 3G (jailbroken on T-Mobile), and got an HD2 instead. I've always liked Windows Mobile phones (and had most iterations), and since now there is finally some capacitative goodness on WM, I jumped on the opportunity.
And I'm regretting it already.
I'm hoping that somebody here has some suggestion that my two days of thread searching, and experimenting didn't cover.
The problem is, yay, .... the damn battery.
I left it on the charger from totally empty to completely full at 2AM. At 8AM, it was down to 85%. Ten minutes of reading e-mails, 74%. The thing is really not usable in this state.
Here are all the things I checked already:
It runs the latest T-Mobile ROM and radio (the one that just came out a few days ago).
Latest version of .NET (3.5.9).
No push e-mail, e-mail checking once per hour, weather checking once per hour.
Strong 3G coverage area, still tried out WMLongLife anyway (with no difference).
Did several cycles of full discharge, recharge.
Always check task manager, not leaving programs running.
Nothing else is set to go online - Live is disabled.
Screen brightness is set at 30%.
All charges done via wall charger.
I read every post I could find, especially fun the ones where people get 4 days of standby, and 6+ hours of heavy use. Short of loading the ARTEMIS ROM, I exhausted all options I could find. And really, it seems like people get decent performance from the stock ROM, so I'd like to stick with that for the moment.
What am I missing?
So frustrating. I can see how this sort of thing would make the average "just user" go run for the Android or Apple hills. No wonder we get stuck with restrictive babysitting technology, when others can't get their **** together. Spend $450 on a phone that can't make it through a half day of reasonable use? Argh!!
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
same here
i have all the same problems my batt just sucks i figure i have to just by a new one
hey man, i was like you at first too. all my mates had iphones (i dislike apple in general) i didnt want one. At the time o2 (uk) didnt stock android phones and i had a sony x1 previously. So, i got the hd2 and...like you said was disapointed.
Changed the rom to a custom one here at xda (hdowners btw) which lasts 1.5 days (heavy usage)...never seems to get 2 full days when i use it alot.
installed a few different browsers (opera 9.7 and 10)
installed morphgear (with some amazing landscape skins)
fpsece (i found time crisis to be the only actual playable game)
coreplayer
and found it a awesome phone...changed my views on it. Try some custom roms and see what you think...usually you will go mad installing themes, skins, apps...just go wild and keep the ones you really like/work in a seperate folder. Then reflash and install the best only...thats how i done it and i now love this phone
good luck, im sure the rest of the forum will give you some advice.
wayandrs: The main thing that will help is by upgrading the ROM even if it is to stock 1.66 (the latest UK one available) then you notice a large difference and even more so with some of the cooked ones. Other things to note are the WiFi, make sure it doesn't be left on (and only turn it on if you need it) it proper drains the battery. Without knowing your habbits with your phone it is very hard to come up with decent suggestions that hasn't already been posted elsewhere.
I can safely say I get 2-3 days use out of my device but then I don't use it all that much (anymore), don't forget as it is a new toy for you, you will keep playing with it seeing what it can do, this will soon die down (as it always does) then it will be better.
there must be something wrong with your device or battery.
mine lasts for about 3-4 days while middle use. i think for such a powerful and huge device, this is more than respectable.
heavy use...mh...i would say it lasts minimal 2 days, sometimes more.
did you write a complain to t-mobile?
DN41
The battery will improve after a week or so .
Note : charging your battery the first time for only 6hours isn't much , the first time that i charged my battery i left it charging for 24 hours.
Updating to the latest ROM and Radio helps .
I have two suggestions:
1) Take your phone back to where you bought it and let them deal with it. I get at least a full day with heavy use which is to be expected from a high end device with a 4.3 inch screen. I spent a few dollars on a car charger and an extra wall charger for work, sorted.
2) If you want help on these forums leave out the useless complaining about what a rotten device you have. I think I speak for many contributors of this forum when I say that these kind of posts are getting old and wearisome. You will be more likely to get polite replies with inteligent suggestions if you simply state the problem without moaning about the horrible mistake you made in being seduced into buying an HD2. I have purchased phones that I simply did not care for. I returned them.
First step: Flash a decent ROM with most of the performance/battery tricks in there already. Many of these ROMs are constructed from the best (often most battery efficient) parts of multiple ROMS.
Touch-X, Energy, Artemis, CleanEx, etc. All are excellent (though I favour Touch-X myself for a great utility/preformance/battery balance).
Second step: Flash a good Radio that works well in your area but also works well with the ROM/has decent battery life. You'll need to research this for your chosen ROM.
I use the Korean radio in UK. Good quality/signal/battery life.
Run it for a few days, charging to full and emptying the battery before recharging to full again. Do this for 3/4 days at least.
Those changes alone got me upto 2.5 days standby and 4 hours usage (thats movie playing for 4 hours with 100% backlight in a hotel room). Good for a smartphone and longer than my friends IPhones.
Other small programs like WMLongLife, adjusting down the backlight automatically, added another .5 days to standby (though not much to active use life).
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I have two suggestions:
1) Take your phone back to where you bought it and let them deal with it. I get at least a full day with heavy use which is to be expected from a high end device with a 4.3 inch screen. I spent a few dollars on a car charger and an extra wall charger for work, sorted.
2) If you want help on these forums leave out the useless complaining about what a rotten device you have. I think I speak for many contributors of this forum when I say that these kind of posts are getting old and wearisome. You will be more likely to get polite replies with inteligent suggestions if you simply state the problem without moaning about the horrible mistake you made in being seduced into buying an HD2. I have purchased phones that I simply did not care for. I returned them.
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Yes, sorry I fell back on the usual retoric.
I do wonder though if when someone buys a new 'Toy' that they dont hammer it to start with for the 'joy' and never think of the consequences.
I like you, no matter which phone I own, being a businessman and needing maximum performance have a charger at my bedside (the phone is my alarm) and also connect it to the car charger when driving.
I wonder if many of the people that move up from a basic Nokia phone (or similar that can last a week) realise what is involved in powering all the functions they require?
Please don't quote iPhone as it dunt do half!
try elegencia rom v 8.5 and reply back
I use the stock rom 1.66 from the beginning and check my mail automatically every 30 minutes. Now and then I check some websites and download cabs and use HSDPA/3G and WIFI if available. My battery is 100% in the morning and 70 percent in the evening. Not bad at all. The first 12 times I fully charched the battery during the night.
I use Bandswitch, which automatically disables my connection within 30 seconds. This is the most important and useful tip! You don't need a custom ROM to solve the battery drain issue.
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try elegencia rom v 8.5 and reply back
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+1 - Lovely ROM
it looks like you have not a windows phone before
Thanks.
Thanks for the ROM suggestions. I'll try a few more days of deep cycling the battery to see if that helps - if not, I guess I'll try a custom ROM.
And yea, to those 'get a life' and 'don't complain about Windows phones' posts, whatever. I've owned Windows Mobile phones since they first came out, and it's just frustrating that the out-of-the box usability hasn't gotten any better to this day. Looks at the cool people that actually manage some constructive feedback - they are who make XDA forums great. Thanks guys!
A new 1200 battery is 15 pounds (the official from HTC) as a backup. I personaly have bought the extended battery 2400 and it is great. The default battery doesn't last the full day for me because I use it constinuosly as mp3 player , brownsing and video player. I mean, you have options.
ROM
I'll be trying the Elegancia ROM.
That is, once I find a ROM with 2.8 SPL that works on my 1024 version of the H2, to reflash mine so I can get HSPL to work to flash.
I've always really liked Windows Mobile for its flexibility and massive base of developers ... on the flip side, I've been screwing around with this thing for several days now, trying to get a phone that can last through a day. Ahhh, the bittersweet experience that is WM.
I get at most 2 days combined cycle out of my stanard battery and i've had my phone for about 10 days. It came with the stock 1.66 rom but i've run through the tips and tweaks threads so the phone ui is faster and a bit more usable. One of those is a replacement task manager that disables smart minimize in favour of actually closing programs. I've also set the weather software to update every 3 hours because tbh you don't need it to be any more often than that. I do use the wifi alot but i do turn it off when i'm not using the phone. i have also noticed with my phone is if the wifi is connected to an access point for more than 5 minutes it will automatically disable the 3G connection and turn it back on when the wifi is disabled.
for the first couple of days i was completely discharging the battery and then charging it for about 12 hours. this seems to have been the most beneficial. i also will not put it on charge unless it really needs it.
hi, from experience, 3G medium usuage.. 4/5 a day.
If you disconect the 3G connection when not using, it will help.
And of course if you go on GSM instead, one day is not difficult..
battery killer :
1) constant 3G activity
2) Watching video. Worst, video on 3G !
3) games, especially the 3Ds ones or high on processing like the Tower simulation game.
4) bright screen
5) bluetooth
From my experience, from a fresh flash, my battery improves as I get to use it longer and longer.
take a look at your data sync like weather and stock and also check the social networking sync.

QUESTIONS

hi everyone
i am going this phone in 2 days but first i wiould like to know something.
First for now i have a samsung galaxy ace, is a very nivce phone but i want more, i want overclock i want differents rooms i want a new kernel so this is what is making me change it.
So have we a new rom for this phone, a finish one and stable, and kernels, what is the best for battery life?
If someone could help with this i would be very greatfull
thanks to all
vlc_marcos said:
hi everyone
i am going this phone in 2 days but first i wiould like to know something.
First for now i have a samsung galaxy ace, is a very nivce phone but i want more, i want overclock i want differents rooms i want a new kernel so this is what is making me change it.
So have we a new rom for this phone, a finish one and stable, and kernels, what is the best for battery life?
If someone could help with this i would be very greatfull
thanks to all
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Hello, and welcome the U8800 group I guess?
Well firstly you shall know that we have lots of different firmware for our phone.
To get access to the new firmwares visit.
http://wiki.modaco.com/index.php/Huawei_Firmware_U8800
If you wish to have user friendly guide, visit.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...om/341011/ultimate-guide-to-the-huawei-u8800/
For custom roms with huge tweaks and optimizations.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...rom-for-the-huawei-u8800-with-online-kitchen/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152240
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068766
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147103
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059753
And to use these roms it's good to have recovery for the phone...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130524
Lastly, the battery life is pretty decent for a smartphone, to be correct with the matter. Every smartphone have "bad" battery life against none "smart"phones(dumbphones).
Hope this helps you !
thanks so later i will read something about this
vlc_marcos said:
thanks so later i will read something about this
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If you happy with it hit the funny looking "Thanks" button, makes me happy
i have a question, for what is the thanks button?
vlc_marcos said:
i have a question, for what is the thanks button?
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Nothing much just to say thanks by a meter way.
what rom are you using and why?
vlc_marcos said:
what rom are you using and why?
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I am using, B137 custom rom by Fibblesan from modaco.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...rom-for-the-huawei-u8800-with-online-kitchen/
Reason.
Works flawlessly, can do normal calls,browsing the network, flash works perfectly and no shuttering lastly battery life is great, holds quite long. I would also point out that when questions are asked most help when they can @modaco.
I would say hearing opinion is a small reason to try a rom, biggest would be to experience the rom then see if its really good.
cirnocirno said:
I am using, B137 custom rom by Fibblesan from modaco.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...rom-for-the-huawei-u8800-with-online-kitchen/
Reason.
Works flawlessly, can do normal calls,browsing the network, flash works perfectly and no shuttering lastly battery life is great, holds quite long. I would also point out that when questions are asked most help when they can @modaco.
I would say hearing opinion is a small reason to try a rom, biggest would be to experience the rom then see if its really good.
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Can I ask what you mean by "no shuttering lastly battery life is great, holds quite long" ? How many hours/days? And what sort of usage?
Thanks
katu2006 said:
Can I ask what you mean by "no shuttering lastly battery life is great, holds quite long" ? How many hours/days? And what sort of usage?
Thanks
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With 3g, wifi on and light web browsing I get around 11 hours of usage until next charge. If I do not play around for such long time it can hold for 3 days in sleep doing nothing. But if I do normal activity, which involves, music,web,3g,sms and some calls + games. I will have 20 % left from 08:00 to 23:00 and thats no problem 20% is fine enough for a night sleep, and charge in the morning !
so is like my galaxy ace, form 08:00 to 23:00, i use 70% of the battery, with the sincro on all the time, using my emal like sms, it means that i send a lot during all day, wifi turn on during 8 hours and some games and web.
i still dont have the x5 but iam waitting for it, but i thought that the battery could be longer
vlc_marcos said:
so is like my galaxy ace, form 08:00 to 23:00, i use 70% of the battery, with the sincro on all the time, using my emal like sms, it means that i send a lot during all day, wifi turn on during 8 hours and some games and web.
i still dont have the x5 but iam waitting for it, but i thought that the battery could be longer
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Why would it be longer?
First thing you need to understand, the concept of why smartphone battery sucks. They don't evolve as fast as the smartphones itself. No one seems to wish add more power into their small batteries for the smartphones, thus making it look stupid.
ok i understand and i know, but the software could improve the battery life in some way
vlc_marcos said:
ok i understand and i know, but the software could improve the battery life in some way
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Yeah, software can only make sure a certain amount won't go to waste, for example stopping useless workload.
I don't mean to upset anybody, but I think that battery consumption is 80% related to the hardware and the rest to software. I used to have Wifi, bluetooth, 2 e-mail accounts with push on non stop, on my old Iphone 3G and battery used to hold for at least 2 days. Now, because this battery is 3 years newer, wouldn't you think that there should be improvements? The fact that you get 3 days out of this phone's battery, makes me think that you're lucky...I never got more than 2 days, with all sorts of ROMs, including FLB.
The rule "what you pay is what you get" reflects the reality here, quality hardware makes the difference, simple as that. I like the U8800, but to be able to get more life out of the battery, the quality of hardware needs big improvements.
As an example, the bluetooth on the Iphone use to work in the proximity of my car, but with the U8800 it disconnects while I'm in the car... not to mention the wifi, that's flaky as...I'm not bagging the U8800, for $300 brand new, it's definitely worth buying, but if you want a bit more quality, pay the difference and get the Desire or something.
katu2006 said:
I don't mean to upset anybody, but I think that battery consumption is 80% related to the hardware and the rest to software. I used to have Wifi, bluetooth, 2 e-mail accounts with push on non stop, on my old Iphone 3G and battery used to hold for at least 2 days. Now, because this battery is 3 years newer, wouldn't you think that there should be improvements? The fact that you get 3 days out of this phone's battery, makes me think that you're lucky...I never got more than 2 days, with all sorts of ROMs, including FLB.
The rule "what you pay is what you get" reflects the reality here, quality hardware makes the difference, simple as that. I like the U8800, but to be able to get more life out of the battery, the quality of hardware needs big improvements.
As an example, the bluetooth on the Iphone use to work in the proximity of my car, but with the U8800 it disconnects while I'm in the car... not to mention the wifi, that's flaky as...I'm not bagging the U8800, for $300 brand new, it's definitely worth buying, but if you want a bit more quality, pay the difference and get the Desire or something.
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First: No one who needs 3+ day battery should buy a smartphone! If you want a super battery, go to a dumbphone with a xpto 8+ days battery. I my opinion, a smartphone with a 24h battery (wifi on, 3G on, network data on, good brightness, some gps, etc) is the perfect deal. I couldn't 100% test the battery duration of the Huawei because it's still network locked, so I've done any calls and any sms/mms, but with wifi on, auto-sync, FB sync, tweetdeck sync, google account sync, some internet browsing, lots of social network browsing and good brightness, there's now 25h uptime and 32% remaing. Is this bad? I don't think so...
Second: Go ahead, compare a 500€ iPhone to a 150€ Huawei
BTW: It's network locked but I'm using the original SIM and it's working properly. I've done any calls or sms but it's not in flight mode, it's completely operational... Except for the fact that I aint no friends using TMN ahah SO, the battery duration isn't much affected by this fact.
tiagovale2 said:
Second: Go ahead, compare a 500€ iPhone to a 150€ Huawei
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Iphone is more than 3 years old and worth less than $100...Not sure what you're talking about. Or do you still think that Iphone 3g is worth 500??
The topic here was to decide if to buy U8800 or not. If you think that a "smart-phone"s battery should last 24h, then you deserve this phone... I'm thinking, "no go". You can get a whole lot more from a Desire.
In my view, the specification says 370h in standby, with wifi on, you should still get 100h...not 24h.
BTW, can you give me an example of an $300 "dumb-phone" ? )
só tiago, I can see that you are Portuguese, I'm to. so with a lot of using you can get one day of battery, with an extreme use. because for me I will use a lot the email because I use it like sms to.my girl that is out of the country so it should e on all the times. the rest us a normal use with calls something like 2 hours of phone calls.
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Iphone is more than 3 years old and worth less than $100...Not sure what you're talking about. Or do you still think that Iphone 3g is worth 500??
The topic here was to decide if to buy U8800 or not. If you think that a "smart-phone"s battery should last 24h, then you deserve this phone... I'm thinking, "no go". You can get a whole lot more from a Desire.
In my view, the specification says 370h in standby, with wifi on, you should still get 100h...not 24h.
BTW, can you give me an example of an $300 "dumb-phone" ? )
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Sorry, I thought you have the 4G... I take back what I said about 500€ iPhone.
370h only if it's sleeping all the time without data, syncs, wifi, etc... With a full smartphone use, 100h are impossible to get otherwise I think the user is not using it with full capacities... Like I said, with all-day wi-fi, sync, notifications, data transfer, good brightness, some GPS, browsing, sms, calls, etc etc (full smartphone use), get 24h+ battery is very hard... My 2 cents.
$300 dumbphone? A "dumbphone" is a phone for those who don't need a smart one, so I don't see the point of your question... If anyone is thinking on spending $300 on a phone, I doubt a dumbphone will do the needs.
(Sorry for my bad English)
What I meant was that you can't really find dumbphones any more, in less they are $20 or something... Anyway, the whole idea is that I think the battery should hold longer than 24h, with wifi and minimal usage. With this phone, you can barely achieve that...
If the initiator of this thread wants more battery life, he should reconsider.

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