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Phone-likeness of TyTN?

Gday TyTN folk.
I have an iMate PDA2k and am thinking of moving to TyTN, but being a bit frustrated with my current unit I'd like to know whether TyTN makes a better phone than BA does.
My specific botherments are:
- notification light (green/red/orange) where the functions over-ride each other. e.g. if I miss a call while its charging, it starts flashing red, but then it completes charging and goes green. Actually, even if it's not charging it seems to stop flashing red after a while. I want it to keep flashing red until I actually handle the device and should have noticed.
To me it makes more sense to combine the bluetooth light with the charge light, and leave the phone notification as a separate item.
- notification icon space in start bar. Currently it's ALWAYS showing a multi-message bubble icon (I'm always in CDMA 1x coverage, and also have an app running that puts its own notification icon up) so I don't see a new one for SMS or voice message. It looks like the best answer might actually be a 3rd party start-bar app, but still.. is it any better under WM5?
- waking up. Incoming calls, messages, and bluetooth connections, wake up the device completely. If it's in the pouch, or worse, in my pocket, the screen then gets bumped, thereby performing actions I don't want to. Even getting it out of my pocket without bumping the screen is a challenge. I tried setting an unlock password (some time ago) but that wasn't satisfactory; I don't remember whether the screen still unlocked on incoming calls, or if unlocking was too much a nuisance.
Ideally, it should wake up enough so that the firm hardware buttons are unlocked but the screen isn't active until you've used a button.
The voice-recording button used to annoy me with accidental presses when removing from pouch; I changed that button to do screen rotate which I find more useful, and no big deal when pushed accidentally - just push it again.
- Sound quality, especially for the person on the other end of a call. I've had people tell me I'm faint on the iMate. Positioning is a little interesting as I don't really want to rub my face all over the screen. Does the TyTN pick up any better?
- turning the phone off. (Like Windows' contradictory "click start to shut down") I really don't like the fiddly actions required to "turn on flight mode" on pda2k, especially when I don't want to get out the stylus. People with normal mobile phones can turn them completely off using one hardware button, and they don't have to look hard to see whether it's on or off. Some have mentioned wanting an easy way to switch to/from silent mode.
Is there a quick, sensible, easy way to turn the phone on and off, preferably also to/from silent?
Thanks

gregnash said:
- notification icon space in start bar. Currently it's ALWAYS showing a multi-message bubble icon (I'm always in CDMA 1x coverage, and also have an app running that puts its own notification icon up) so I don't see a new one for SMS or voice message. It looks like the best answer might actually be a 3rd party start-bar app, but still.. is it any better under WM5?
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First a corresponding icon (envelope, phone), after more notifications, you get a bubble (?). Not a bubble all the time.
gregnash said:
- turning the phone off. (Like Windows' contradictory "click start to shut down") I really don't like the fiddly actions required to "turn on flight mode" on pda2k, especially when I don't want to get out the stylus. People with normal mobile phones can turn them completely off using one hardware button, and they don't have to look hard to see whether it's on or off. Some have mentioned wanting an easy way to switch to/from silent mode.
Is there a quick, sensible, easy way to turn the phone on and off, preferably also to/from silent?
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One hardware button for standby, hold it to turn the device off completely. You get a window where you can just hit the d-pad button.
There's also a button for comm-manager, there you can select silent/vibrate mode and flight mode.

Hi, you speak of not wanting to rub your face on the screen, I actually use my TyTN in speaker phone mode to prevent this, I just quickly enable speaker on a call, and flip the phone to where the back is by my face, it puts the speaker in a good spot also, I know it sounds a bit weird, bit works pretty well.
Granted I don't do this with every call, mostly I use it when I know the call is gonna last for more than a few minutes.

notifications, buttons
TiMMah!!! said:
First a corresponding icon (envelope, phone), after more notifications, you get a bubble (?). Not a bubble all the time.
One hardware button for standby, hold it to turn the device off completely. You get a window where you can just hit the d-pad button.
There's also a button for comm-manager, there you can select silent/vibrate mode and flight mode.
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You're right about the notification icon, but if I was watching the screen at the time of the additional notify then I'd already know what's there and wouldn't need the icon. On the pda2k cdma, being in a 1x coverage area generates a notification, plus mNotes puts one, so there's a bubble even before I receive any sms, voicemail etc. Combine that with the behaviour of the flashing light, it means if I missed something I may not know about it unless I go looking.
Thanks re the hardware button, that's good news.

face-rubbing
ChaoticDruid said:
Hi, you speak of not wanting to rub your face on the screen, I actually use my TyTN in speaker phone mode to prevent this, I just quickly enable speaker on a call, and flip the phone to where the back is by my face, it puts the speaker in a good spot also, I know it sounds a bit weird, bit works pretty well.
Granted I don't do this with every call, mostly I use it when I know the call is gonna last for more than a few minutes.
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Creative! I'll remember that one..

Sounds like you should check out PhoneAlarm

argh, i think i've had it with this phone (wifi)

in a neverending battle with a phone that is underpowered and clumsy, i now have had enough. I figure i will give this one shot here before i buy a pearl or dash on monday (probably a pearl as the wm phones i have used have all seemed to be piled of ****e).
Everytime i try to activate my phone on my home wifi network, it freezes. Anyone experienced that, got a fix? It's ridiculous how touchy this phone is and annoying.
Actually, perhaps you can suggest some other fixes to annoyances.
I dial and then put the phone to my face, and poof, my cheek hangs it up.
After boot, the message button won't open my poutlook, it opens but doesn't display. If i hit the text or email entry on the today screen, it works fine.
Bluetooth won't work correctly, insomuch as it won't output to the headset but people can hear me fine
I get notification i have a voicemail, and i dismiss it.. so dismiss the bloody thing - i still have the notification by the clock, i want to REMOVE the link to voicemail by the left bottom softkey.. so i can see other notifications, annoying, annoying, annoying.
Overall i find this phone to be a bulky, heavy, clumsy, unresponsive POS. I know that's a negative thing here, but i am really frustrated.

Chill out, relax. I've been using the wizard without any problems whatsoever but if anything, the WiFi is a problem because of my stupid router (a WRT54GC). But even then, once it's associated, it's not a problem. I have a Belkin downstairs which is the gateway device and I have 0 problems associating and using WiFi with it. My device is an XDA Mini S.
Now, enough about me, here's a few questions:
When you say lock up, what locks up? The whole phone? Does pressing the keys bring up the keypad lights? Is this the case after a hard reset as well?
I can't use my cheek to disconnect the phone ...maybe because I have a screen protector on? I don't know but I never had this problem :S
No comment on the poutlook but mine works fine with everything so far :S
I haven't used BT for headsets but this might depend on the profile used by the headset.
I don't use voicemail so I can't say much about the notifications.
The wizard is by no means flawless but I have not come across anyone with the same problems as you...but then again, I've been away for a fair bit :S

the message notification is terrible. If there's a voicemail. You can't see anything else until you check it. Dismis just brings it back. All other dismiss fine. THisis on my sx-66 wm5

locking the screen

hello everyone, quick question
im looking for a locking program that will lock the screen when i press the power button (device goes into standby) and when it wakes up
the default locking program with WM is annoying because you can lock the phone BUT when u get an incoming call or text message, the screen becomes unlocked again and its easy to "answer" it accidently when its in your pocket. this is particularly annoying with text messages, because most of the time i wont even realize i have one and the phone will be awake for hours draining the battery and waiting to be pushed. anyways ive done several searches and come up with the following solutions, none of which work for me
1. S2U2, i dont like it, i tried it, wont use it again
2. SensorLock - An EXCELLENT locker, except it wont work on phones without Accelerometers...works wonderfully on the diamond tho
can anyone suggest something to me

First, set timeout for turning screen off autoamtically. This will solve SMS wakeup problem - screen will turn off automatically after some time.
Next thing, incoming calls - there is great Onyx ROM with Opal's slider - to answer a call, you need to slide your finger from center to left (or to right to ignore it). You can't answer accidentally using it

i appreciate your suggestions but neither works for me
i tried the opal but it didnt work properly, i actually had to hard reset to get rid of it
as for the timeout, it still doesnt solve the problem of the phone becoming ACTIVE as soon as a notification or text message is received

Touch HD makes unwanted calls...

hi there
i got a "small" problem with my touch hd. since im carrying the phone in my pocket, i installed "slide2unlock" to prevent the screen from unlocking itself in my pocket...
thing is - i got numerous complaints from people on my contact list, that i called them (sometimes multiple times in a row) without beeing on the phone... seemed to me that the screen unlocked (by accidently touching/pressing the botton on the top in my pocket) and the now unlocked phone started to do funny stuff like calling people...
problem is, that even with s2u installed AND active, my phone keeps calling people. one time, i held the phone in my hand, started the music player, locked the screen via the top button - and the next moment the screen lit up again (without me touching anything "touchable" like the side- oder top buttons - the screen was locked anyways) and my phone started to call a contact from my contact list.
there seems to be no real schema in what people are called. seems like the phone picks randomly one of my contacts on my list and calles him right away.
how do i stop this? im out of ideas here and this thing is really getting on my (and others) nerves...

According to your through description the problem might be even an exotic thing for WM - a virus. Try Kaspersky mobile

Have you installed any custom phone/dialer applications? Also any scripting applications like mortscript and a badly written script causing it... Also are you using AEButton plus. If so then may be a bug in one of those, still difficult to understand.
Otherwise looks like a real malware something not usually known in WM world

lefteyeclosed said:
hi there
i got a "small" problem with my touch hd. since im carrying the phone in my pocket, i installed "slide2unlock" to prevent the screen from unlocking itself in my pocket...
thing is - i got numerous complaints from people on my contact list, that i called them (sometimes multiple times in a row) without beeing on the phone... seemed to me that the screen unlocked (by accidently touching/pressing the botton on the top in my pocket) and the now unlocked phone started to do funny stuff like calling people...
problem is, that even with s2u installed AND active, my phone keeps calling people. one time, i held the phone in my hand, started the music player, locked the screen via the top button - and the next moment the screen lit up again (without me touching anything "touchable" like the side- oder top buttons - the screen was locked anyways) and my phone started to call a contact from my contact list.
there seems to be no real schema in what people are called. seems like the phone picks randomly one of my contacts on my list and calles him right away.
how do i stop this? im out of ideas here and this thing is really getting on my (and others) nerves...
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it "might" be the stylus....
the default in s2u2 is to ulnlock on stylus removal if your stylus get caught in you pocket
and pulls far enough out it'll unlock
but anyway check the unock options out in the s2u2 settings
beter yet stick a reply in the s2u2 post and see if anyone else hase a silmilar problem

TC,
Or uninstall that screen-lock application and see if the problem still occurs. If it still occurs, you now know it's nothing to do with the App and perhaps indicates a bigger issue.
Cheers.

Stupid question, but are you locking your screen by pressing and holding the Hang Up key in the bottom right corner?
I find the only way to fully lock the screen to stop the kind of activation you are talking about is to press and hold Hang Up key to lock it.
Then pull out the stylus to unlock, or press the Answer Key followed by the then-displayed unlock key.

Hi,
I have exactly the same issue.
My version of s2u2 is 1.62.
I just changed the option in s2u2 to avoid the phone to turn on when removing the stilus...I will wait and see

Hi,
Even after I have changed the option in s2u2 to avoid the phone to turn on when removing the stilus it seams my phone is still makes some unwanted callings...
Any idea???

Streak while using phone annoyances

When I call my voicemail [using google voice] it wants me to enter my pin.
1. Isn't there a way to program the dialer to pause, then enter the pin automatically?
2. I notice that the phone acts very quirky when on a call. In order to do anything when on a call I have to turn it so that it is in portrait mode, not landscape because it sort of 'sleeps' once I am on a call.
3. Being the phone wants to sleep when I am on a call, I can't seem to find a way to get back to the phone app and hit the RED 'end' button at times ..
Sort of hard to explain but maybe someone can do a better job if you have found the same problem. I love this BIG phone. I wouldn't even object to an extended battery.

shEEEsh said:
When I call my voicemail [using google voice] it wants me to enter my pin.
1. Isn't there a way to program the dialer to pause, then enter the pin automatically?
2. I notice that the phone acts very quirky when on a call. In order to do anything when on a call I have to turn it so that it is in portrait mode, not landscape because it sort of 'sleeps' once I am on a call.
3. Being the phone wants to sleep when I am on a call, I can't seem to find a way to get back to the phone app and hit the RED 'end' button at times ..
Sort of hard to explain but maybe someone can do a better job if you have found the same problem. I love this BIG phone. I wouldn't even object to an extended battery.
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Don't know about point 1 but i have just read that when making a phone call it has to be in portrait mode and as you bring it up to your face the proximity sensors will turn off your display to prevent unintentional touches is that what you were on about or have i got it all wrong

I don't understand all the technical stuff but to hold it, it has to be in portrait mode, but even if you have the speaker on and it is on it's back on the table, you can't press the keypad [once the call has begun] unless it is in portrait mode. I would like to turn off 'sleep' while I am on a call .. REALLY annoying.
SUGGESTION: Don't make any prank calls until you know that phone inside and out because sometimes hanging up the phone is close to impossible. Unless it's just me.

shEEEsh said:
I don't understand all the technical stuff but to hold it, it has to be in portrait mode, but even if you have the speaker on and it is on it's back on the table, you can't press the keypad [once the call has begun] unless it is in portrait mode. I would like to turn off 'sleep' while I am on a call .. REALLY annoying.
SUGGESTION: Don't make any prank calls until you know that phone inside and out because sometimes hanging up the phone is close to impossible. Unless it's just me.
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AHHHH so its you makeing all the prank calls to me LOL.
It dosen't say anything in the manual on turning off the sleep i will do a google and have a look

sssshhhh ... don't tell .. I have lots more calls to make
But seriously .. I called to check my voice mail and somehow the dialpad went off the screen .. Tried pushing buttons, but there apparently isn't one that will bring it back up .. Mean while I hear the recording saying the same "enter your 4 digit pin over and over." I would if I could find the dial pad again !!! Same if you are leaving a message .. if the screen sleeps, you are fumbling around trying to get it to come back up to click END.

Yes i have had quite some issues with it as a phone, specially when it rings but the screen is still in sleep mode for some reason. So you have to turn it on from sleep then hit the unlock before answering. This is a long process to accept phone calls, also when you answer the phone my ears always seem to hit the screen which triggers the apps menu....
I have had it since launch day and been trying to use it as a primary phone but i don't think thats working out. But as an MID its amazing I love using it, the screen is nice and great using it a a ebook reader.

When I get a phone call my screen comes on, unlocked and ready to answer.
My slight issues are my face is too small to go from the ear piece to the mic LoL
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App

I too am having the same issues as many on here.
A-N-N-O-Y-I-N-G is what it is!
I can;t even hear anything out of the earpiece in the phone, although i can if i turn it on speaker...not a happy bunny as now i have to wait for a replacement!
One question tho, which has been driving me insane...
Does anyone know if there is some kind of 'file-explorer' for accessing the conent on the SD card?
The only way i've found so far to even get close to the files is through 'QuickOffice'... Would've thought they'd be a more 'convenient' approach to it...
Any ideas?

Yesterday I purchased a program called 'screeb.' It is supposed to be able to prevent 'sleep' when you are actually still using it among other things like battery saving things .. I haven't tested it yet but maybe others have ??

AndyGlosta said:
Does anyone know if there is some kind of 'file-explorer' for accessing the conent on the SD card?
The only way i've found so far to even get close to the files is through 'QuickOffice'... Would've thought they'd be a more 'convenient' approach to it...
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There are several free file explorers in the Market .. As for sound.. are you sure you are putting the right end to your ear ?? Seriously .. It would be easy to make that mistake when everything is dark ..

shEEEsh said:
There are several free file explorers in the Market .. As for sound.. are you sure you are putting the right end to your ear ?? Seriously .. It would be easy to make that mistake when everything is dark ..
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Yeah, definetly got it at the right ear
Will have a look round for a file explorer then, i just thought it would have came with one...silly me! lol!

If I had the phone on speaker and put it to my ear it would deafen me I think. Speaker is VERY loud. Could it be that you have the TTY feature turned on? [ I think that is what it is called, not even sure what it does.] I just can't understand why it won't work as a phone.
I have been trying to use BT only when using it as a phone. I am very afraid my earrings are going to scratch the screen.
I was trying to decide if maybe I should put the sim from my streak back into my iphone and then move the sim from my HTC Shift into the Streak until I got more used to using it. Especially if I am going to use it a lot for voice. I also use my phone for data more than voice.
ALSO .. wondering what an extended battery would be like .. Make it harder to hold? or give you something to hold on to... Right now my hand has to really stretch to grasp the phone ..
ANYWAY ... enough with all this thinking .. I should have been at work 15 minutes ago and I haven't even gotten in the shower.
Diane

lufc said:
...is that what you were on about or have i got it all wrong
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I love British expressions ... Lately I notice that people in the USA are using them more and more .. The one that annoys me the most .. BECAUSE IT IS NOT OURS TO USE is the expression "gone missing." Everyone who is missing has "gone missing" and until about 1 or 2 years ago it belonged to YOU ... What I am trying to say is I like when YOU use them, but when WE do it sounds WRONG.
Diane

@shEEEsh
Your voice mail issue should be fixed by downloading the tmobile visiual voice mail its simple fast free. Also your sleep issues should be fixed with 2.2. I know with my N1 when I move the down it turns on.

@ Andyglosta
Try oi file manager on market. It'll do what you want.
There's also astro, but personally I think it looks crap..
Sent from my Dell Streak

wondercoolguy said:
@shEEEsh
Your voice mail issue should be fixed by downloading the tmobile visiual voice mail its simple fast free. Also your sleep issues should be fixed with 2.2. I know with my N1 when I move the down it turns on.
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I have everything with Tmobile but it won't let me install tmobile visual voice. Actually it says it is installed, but I can't activate it.

Just got off the phone with Tmobile and they turned on Visual Voice for me. Good. Next on the agenda is when a call ends getting back the dial pad so I can hang up ...

shEEEsh said:
When I call my voicemail [using google voice] it wants me to enter my pin.
1. Isn't there a way to program the dialer to pause, then enter the pin automatically?
2. I notice that the phone acts very quirky when on a call. In order to do anything when on a call I have to turn it so that it is in portrait mode, not landscape because it sort of 'sleeps' once I am on a call.
3. Being the phone wants to sleep when I am on a call, I can't seem to find a way to get back to the phone app and hit the RED 'end' button at times ..
Sort of hard to explain but maybe someone can do a better job if you have found the same problem. I love this BIG phone. I wouldn't even object to an extended battery.
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1. You can long press * on dialpad, it will show "p", then enter pin.
It can also be used in the contacts (just type p).
2. no idea...
3. Tried power on key ?

Maybe I throw my hands in the air to fast, but I shut off google voice and went back to tmobile 'visual voicemail.' It is sort of the same but I will miss google's voice to text translation via email SOOOOO MUCH ... It is probably the most entertaining application that I have ever had. I like to forward them to the person who left the voicemail and say "what?????"

It seems funny. But I can't use google voice here ;-(