Hi,
I've noticed that several posters on this forum have replaced Vista Business on their Shifts with Vista Ultimate.
I was just wondering why? In my opinion, what is "missing" from Vista Business (e.g. Media Centre), isn't really suitable for a device like the Shift anyway, so I was just curious as to why you would want to do this?
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Hi,
I've noticed that several posters on this forum have replaced Vista Business on their Shifts with Vista Ultimate.
I was just wondering why? In my opinion, what is "missing" from Vista Business (e.g. Media Centre), isn't really suitable for a device like the Shift anyway, so I was just curious as to why you would want to do this?
Regards,
Dave
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I agree...i would rather go for XP and get some more resources.
I must admit, whilst I have no objection to Vista per se, it really does need 2GB memory to shine. So, for the Shift, if there was an easy downgrade where literally everything worked ok, I would do it in a heartbeat.
That being said, for my purposes, Vista Business is ok, so I really want to know why some want to upgrade to Ultimate.
For the record, my *primary* machine, is running 64-bit Vista Ultimate Edition, and my secondary is running 32-bit Vista Ultimate, but to be honest I could live with Business on both.
Regards,
Dave
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Hi, I recently bought a Wizard and I was wondering if Media Center inspired (eighter xp or vista) Interface was ever made fo Windows Mobile. I saw a portable media center, and although the device wasn't great, I liked the resemblance to the actual computer interface. Those things were running on Windows CE too right? And what about the Zune interface? Has it ever been attempted?
I thank everyone willing to help
Thanx LucaS
lucasan2 said:
Hi, I recently bought a Wizard and I was wondering if Media Center inspired (eighter xp or vista) Interface was ever made fo Windows Mobile. I saw a portable media center, and although the device wasn't great, I liked the resemblance to the actual computer interface. Those things were running on Windows CE too right? And what about the Zune interface? Has it ever been attempted?
I thank everyone willing to help
Thanx LucaS
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I ran across this...have not installed it so don't know anything about it, might be what you are looking for?
http://www.pocketpt.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=15512
Vista SideShow would be nice
What I am REALLY interested in is Vista SideShow running on windows mobile... M$ has such a huge opportunity here with SideShow, and they are not capitalizing on it. If someone were to release a SideShow driver that works on windows mobile, I would immediately pay $50 for it. Imagine being able to access Vista gadgets and Media center info through a pretty interface right on your phone! I'm getting all excited
Over the net is floating video of software which allows you tu run vista sidebar gadgets, but it never left microsoft labs (the video was with WM5 device), about sideshow i think microsoft will provide proper solution but you have to wait
Thanx
Thanks a lot anothersmith! That's actually the sort of thing I was looking...i just wish the interface was a little better looking ... I guess there will be improved versions in the future...but still, thank you so much for the help!
Anyone installed this (http://www.pocketpt.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=15512)? is it any good and does it let you watch tv?
you can whatch it only over internet, so it depends on your speed
i saw a video where someone is showing his jasjar device with windows vista on it,so if someone has it,could you please post it here
this is the video where i saw it
http://youtube.com/watch?v=J7_9MHuZHPE
Remote desktop.
LOL! You like to have this realy slow Vista on you're PPC??
It's actually quite quick once you get it going
Just a shame its only a qvga screen really - not much point to it.
do you know, where can I get it??? pls
There is no windows vista for any pocketpc, this is remote desktop mobile app whic is connected over wifi or other network to a vista pc
so you can not get it from anywhere because it simply does not exist
"do you know, where can I get it??? pls"
you already have it it's called therminal services
it's in your pda
HTC has windows Vista Business on one of it's handsets
check www.GSMarena.com
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_shift-1934.php
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HTC has windows Vista Business on one of it's handsets
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The CPU of that device is an actual x86 device, the same as is in your PC. It's basically an ultra-small laptop. Meanwhile your phone has an ARM RISC chipset which is totally incompatible with Windows PC editions.
Nice scam
Hehe, nice to see, "Lokaal Station (C" in Dutch has got 18,5 GB free on his phone.. lol, would like to have that
(Local Disk (C)
windows vista is not for pocket pc and most probably this video might be of remote desktop or wisbar advance ...
however i heard rumors about an xp phone by hp...
I even have screenshots...
Aju Joy said:
windows vista is not for pocket pc and most probably this video might be of remote desktop or wisbar advance ...
however i heard rumors about an xp phone by hp...
I even have screenshots...
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It is called xpphone (not too original on the name if you ask me), but it isn't from HP (at least not the one I saw)
Hi All, yesterday i install xp on my GF's eee900 using nLite, it's very fast and i am so impress. Now that is done and running super fast, i wonder if i could do the same for my shift, by using vLite to create a strip down version of vista and intall it from an external DVD drive.
Tne problem i could think of is drivers, do wehave the complete list of drives for vista? if so, i think it will be very possible, you get to disable all the service and microsoft cr*p that you don't want, which will speed up Shift a lot.
Let me know what you guys think.
I think the more techno savvy of this forum are working on this amongst other things. If HTC was to provide drivers for the hardware it would help, a lot...
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Hi All, yesterday i install xp on my GF's eee900 using nLite, it's very fast and i am so impress. Now that is done and running super fast, i wonder if i could do the same for my shift, by using vLite to create a strip down version of vista and intall it from an external DVD drive.
Tne problem i could think of is drivers, do wehave the complete list of drives for vista? if so, i think it will be very possible, you get to disable all the service and microsoft cr*p that you don't want, which will speed up Shift a lot.
Let me know what you guys think.
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After mounting the XVISTA.WIM inside the recovery partition, I can safely say, Vlite will not work with Shifts Vista.
However, I am currently working on a solution.
I will use a normal Vista Business to create a lite version of Vista and slipstream it into the recovery partition. I hope to shave off a few GB and get some resources free.
But it will take me a few days to get that done. Will keep you updated.
Awww cumon!!
You only have a hard working 800Mz proc!!!
Give it loads of extra file handling and say NITE NITE!!!
(Soz, alchohol moment...)
Do not expect this kit to do anything normally expected of a PC or good laptop, it is a slow UMPC as nothing better exists YET!!!!
I used to see this of people expecting to see a TyTynII act as a laptop!!
Please read the specs of the device and hope for a little more from XDA devs, but not miracles out of the box!!
dude, I play mkv files on it
of course, on win xp made using nlite, with carefull a codec and player selection. there are some of us that would try to get every mhz out of that processor, just for fun and proofs of concepts.
if it were possible i would put win98 on it, and have a boot time of 20sec . It would still offer more then a windows mobile environment.
its more about the size of the Vista installation.
Its easier for me to modify Vista then getting XP to work on this.
Besides, whats wrong with freeing up resources...doesnt cost anything and makes it more responsive.
so far, it runs really nice and quick.
Can even play some stuff on it (Ground Control)
anyway...as soon as its done, I will post the download link
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its more about the size of the Vista installation.
Its easier for me to modify Vista then getting XP to work on this.
Besides, whats wrong with freeing up resources...doesnt cost anything and makes it more responsive.
so far, it runs really nice and quick.
Can even play some stuff on it (Ground Control)
anyway...as soon as its done, I will post the download link
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EXCELLENT!
Hi, I am about to get an HTC Shift here soon.
I was wondering which OS to put on the device.
I need to know which OS will run the smoothest. (Videos, gaming, not freezing up, etc.).
I know that there are some people here that know the answer. I'd really appreciate it if any of you can help me out here. Thanks guys!
Also, which would be the fastest version? Home, Tablet, Professional, etc.?
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Hi, I am about to get an HTC Shift here soon.
I was wondering which OS to put on the device.
I need to know which OS will run the smoothest. (Videos, gaming, not freezing up, etc.).
I know that there are some people here that know the answer. I'd really appreciate it if any of you can help me out here. Thanks guys!
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Choose windows 7, Windows xp just doesn't bring what you want due to the lack of good touch input, windows vista is slow. Windows 7 and XP performance are almost the same..
Messing around a bit 7 is best. 8 is beta and weird, XP is old and out of date for touch and such, Vista is a lost cause.
I got a 2gb RAM module for $95 off ebay by trading in my 1gb module. Shop around, you can find great deals.
Soon I am going to load Ubuntu 12.04 on it, I think in the long run of things it might work best, I'll post my findings.
Thanks for your response man. I think I found the correct drivers for Windows 7.
It was a pack I found here on XDA. It's too bad... 99% of the links for the HTC Shift Drivers are all bad.
Actually. I have a question. Would you happen to know if I install Windows 7, will the Windows Mobile part still be there? And also, do you think you could link me to the correct thread where you can use the HTC Shift as a phone?
That would be extremely helpful.
This is where I got the Drivers for Windows 7. - http://tb.gtxhosting.ru/pub/htc_shift.zip
I hope that is right.
I also somehow found a Pack for Windows XP Drivers. Do you think this is right? Here's the link. - http://archive02.filefactory.com/dl...29dc3cea11302048b02728/n/drivers_shift_XP.rar
Let me know, I'd really appreciate it. I'm glad to see that there are still some people who post about this device. =D
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Thanks for your response man. I think I found the correct drivers for Windows 7.
It was a pack I found here on XDA. It's too bad... 99% of the links for the HTC Shift Drivers are all bad.
Actually. I have a question. Would you happen to know if I install Windows 7, will the Windows Mobile part still be there? And also, do you think you could link me to the correct thread where you can use the HTC Shift as a phone?
That would be extremely helpful.
This is where I got the Drivers for Windows 7. - http://tb.gtxhosting.ru/pub/htc_shift.zip
I hope that is right.
I also somehow found a Pack for Windows XP Drivers. Do you think this is right? Here's the link. - http://archive02.filefactory.com/dl...29dc3cea11302048b02728/n/drivers_shift_XP.rar
Let me know, I'd really appreciate it. I'm glad to see that there are still some people who post about this device. =D
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same stuff I found and check out my thread here
The WM side stays, its a hardware VM. I dont have time to jack with mine but I will post up a good updated write up with all my findings next week on windows 7 and WM 6.
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Thanks for your response man. I think I found the correct drivers for Windows 7.
It was a pack I found here on XDA. It's too bad... 99% of the links for the HTC Shift Drivers are all bad.
Actually. I have a question. Would you happen to know if I install Windows 7, will the Windows Mobile part still be there? And also, do you think you could link me to the correct thread where you can use the HTC Shift as a phone?
That would be extremely helpful.
This is where I got the Drivers for Windows 7. - http://tb.gtxhosting.ru/pub/htc_shift.zip
I hope that is right.
I also somehow found a Pack for Windows XP Drivers. Do you think this is right? Here's the link. - http://archive02.filefactory.com/dl...29dc3cea11302048b02728/n/drivers_shift_XP.rar
Let me know, I'd really appreciate it. I'm glad to see that there are still some people who post about this device. =D
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Don't download, Just download the official "Vista" drivers from the HTC Site, and then search for the instructions "how to install windows 7 HTC Shift" you'll get a topic with all the steps you should take. But you do have to download a new wlan driver.
Thanks for your response Armazia. I'll try to look around for the Vista Drivers and the instruction for Windows 7. I tried to look earlier, but I couldn't find it for some reason. I'll give it a shot now.
I couldn't find anything on HTC's site. I found this though. Will this work? - http://driver-pro.com/related/english/hardware-drivers/?a=12226&hit=1
I will post up all the drivers I use once its done, Might be a while yet, working away from home starting tomorrow, wont be back till tues or weds.
I'll host it at Morninglion.com, my own website, so it will stay there.
Thanks so much! Your Great!
I should receive the HTC Shift I ordered by about that time too.
seems HTC shift comes back alive since there is sales recently
my htc will arrive today ... ready for rock on roll
btw, anybody can tell me whether responsive noticeable increase
with 2GB RAM instead of 1GB stock RAM if running windows 7 ??
dony71 said:
seems HTC shift comes back alive since there is sales recently
my htc will arrive today ... ready for rock on roll
btw, anybody can tell me whether responsive noticeable increase
with 2GB RAM instead of 1GB stock RAM if running windows 7 ??
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I think its not worth it, since it only has a 800 mhz processor.. You won't really benefit of 2 gb.
I find windows 8 very good, and very snappy. Try it! Its very nice on the huge touch screen.
Best regards
I like the speed and quickness on windows 8. If you disable windows defender and file indexing (search), it runs very quickly. I use the stardock windows 8 menu as well. Has anyone gotten the WM side to be recognized on Windows 8. I was able to get it working on Vista and Windows 7 but having trouble with 8. Anyone have any good incite?
Does anybody know if it is still possible to download the Developer Preview of Windows 8? Microsoft only has links to the Consumer Preview. (Will this still work via the installation guide found here?)
I just ordered a Shift from the 1saleaday/Ben's Outlet for $199. Eagerly awaiting my new gadget!
Success, With a little work you can get the WM part to be visible in Windows 8 and can transfer files.
Once you use the usbtool, on the windows side you might need to repair the network connection (leave wifi off) and it works.
You can also use the SIM card to surf with windows 8 as well.
need liberation files
friends,my shift is windows 7 and need liberation files .when downloaded it is being saved as text file and cant liberate .pls mail me to [email protected] all the files for liberation.And also my snapVUE not working in windows7,
After years of running the wondrous pof's Hardy 8.04.1 Shift setup, I've gone back to XP. Mainly because Links2 (the fastest browser for this ancient hardware) no longer works with all sites due to its lack of security updates.
cygwin's Links2 2.14 for Windows has enough updated security, so one can visit any site. slimjet chrome browser for XP still syncs with google, but site-rendering is pretty glacial.
As usual, the sd card reader in XP is buggy, mostly due to its old 2002 driver that seems un-updatable. First, I've only gotten a 2GB-or-below card to be recognized. Secondly, the card has to be reinserted upon booting into XP and can also disappear upon resume-after-suspend. But the second issue is solved if one uses devcon.exe and a batch script disabling/reenabling the card driver:
Code:
@echo off
"C:\devcon.exe" disable =SDHost
timeout /t 2
"C:\devcon.exe" enable =SDHost
If anybody else is still using XP, it'd be interesting to hear any of your own workarounds.
I keep dragging my Shift out of mothballs and it's still one of the great niche devices.
Jake
I've only used Vista, Windows 7 and 10 on my HTC Shift, but now it is too slow with any of them so in the next few days, I'm planning on repurposing my Shift to become an offline retro-machine. Therefor I'm intending to install XP on it for the first time. I'll share my experiences on this forum. I'm intending to mostly use it for games and c64 emulation.
Did anyone manage to find Win XP drivers for the Shift?
Thanx
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Did anyone manage to find Win XP drivers for the Shift?
Thanx
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'fraid not.
XP runs well, and the sound works, but I couldn't get optimal screen resolution, and many programs and games (such as Halo, FSX and even basic C64 emulators) refuse to run due to missing drivers.
Since XP has not had security support for a long time, I don't connect XP to the internet, nor do I download any of the general XP driver bundles that are available.
So XP HTC Shift is kind-of useful but not as much as I had hoped. I'm thinking of going back to an offline Windows 7.
I uploaded a couple of HTC Shift Windows XP videos today on YouTube. Here are the links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7LbdGV1Rjg&t=9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTU6Kvua7oI&t=458s