Related
Follow these links:
http://www.pdalive.com/showarticle.php?threadid=6710
http://www.pocketpcparadise.com/ (XDA IV pour 2005 ?)
http://www.pdamag.ru/pages/show.php?idx=214
Could be something reliable?
More links: http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/2823.html
http://www.mobilemag.ch/forum/index...d4339ce4643&showtopic=19130&st=0&#entry136645
http://cellphones.engadget.com/entry/3093445122366434/
http://www.pocketgear.com/news_detail.asp?id=161027
...and more and more...
I don't know about this one. HTC Should be able to get a new PocketPC Phone Edition device for 2005. However, I wonder if we'd ever be able to get our hands on this device...
Quand band is a must for NA.
VGA should have been included with te Himalaya.
Anyway, let's hope that HTC will get this device on the market in time, at a reasonnable price.
Talking about the price I think it could be embarrassing to see the XDA IV on the market only few month after you bought version III...! :?
Rumors said that XDA IV should have UMTS capabilities, and this skill could be interesting in Italy. At present we have one phone company offering this kind of service, but in a short time they should become three.
I think the XDA 4 is for "3" and the XDA 2 is not! I dont realy want a "3" phone, so I look at them as two different products.
zakeen said:
I think the XDA 4 is for "3" and the XDA 2 is not! I dont realy want a "3" phone, so I look at them as two different products.
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Yeah, but it also says it's going to be quad band GSM, which is pretty relevant these days for international travellers.
It is real
MDA4 is real, because announced MDA3 is not made by HTC (as MDA1 and MDA2). T-Mobile ordered this piece of hardware somewhere in China and labelled it as MDA3, but it has nothing in common with maker of MDA1 and MDA2. T-Mobile did it just because he needed a response to Motorola MPx (WindowsMobile Communicator with the keyboard and WiFi). It't just a temporary solution - the real successor of MDA2 will be the MDA4 made by HTC again.
That makes more sence!
would be too much to ask them to include a built-in IR beamer for virtual keyboard ?? :wink:
The idea of having many built-ins looks apealing, but I personally prefer many interfaces (SDIO, CF, ... etc) for accessories that should allow you to get the latest models without the need to get a new device.
I'm confident as well that the day will come when we can replace the CPU and add RAM as we do with the current PCs
Re: It is real
Arkobad said:
MDA4 is real, because announced MDA3 is not made by HTC (as MDA1 and MDA2). T-Mobile ordered this piece of hardware somewhere in China and labelled it as MDA3, but it has nothing in common with maker of MDA1 and MDA2. T-Mobile did it just because he needed a response to Motorola MPx (WindowsMobile Communicator with the keyboard and WiFi). It't just a temporary solution - the real successor of MDA2 will be the MDA4 made by HTC again.
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is it the official info :?:
http://www.htc.com/www/faq_detail.aspx?p_id=249&act=um
Is it normal for HTC to supply an english manual specifically for a device without GPS? Or does that mean that some english speaking countries are getting something like the Tomtom demo with one city map of your choosing installed?
Why does it say VGA recording only available in some models?
Does this mean the english OS does not have this because of some patent / chip restrictions?
If so I better cancel my order for the english OS and get the danish one.
elmalote said:
Why does it say VGA recording only available in some models?
Does this mean the english OS does not have this because of some patent / chip restrictions?
If so I better cancel my order for the english OS and get the danish one.
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No VGA recording may be intended for the north americian version, that was the reason that there was a dispute over some Qualcomm chips shipping into the US wasn't it?
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No VGA recording may be intended for the north americian version, that was the reason that there was a dispute over some Qualcomm chips shipping into the US wasn't it?
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What happens if Qualcomm chips get shipped into the US? Is Qualcomm ment for Europe?
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What happens if Qualcomm chips get shipped into the US? Is Qualcomm ment for Europe?
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That's why they have two version of their processor/system-on-a-chip:
the MSM7200A, which support VGA encoding at 30 fps
the MSM7201A, which is exactly the same except it does not support VGA encoding at 30fps (I think it is [email protected], [email protected]), due to patent problems with some american companies. All devices with 7201A are targetted for selling in the US (although some may end up in europe), while no 7200A device should be sold in the US (although I guess some grey market and private sales may end up bringing 7200A to the US).
TD2 is now exclusively with MSM7200A, so not for US. I guess the version with US 3G which is due later will include 7201A...if Qualcomm has not solved the patent problem since then (unlikely, as their 7200 line is at the end of its life)
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That's why they have two version of their processor/system-on-a-chip:
the MSM7200A, which support VGA encoding at 30 fps
the MSM7201A, which is exactly the same except it does not support VGA encoding at 30fps (I think it is [email protected], [email protected]), due to patent problems with some american companies. All devices with 7201A are targetted for selling in the US (although some may end up in europe), while no 7200A device should be sold in the US (although I guess some grey market and private sales may end up bringing 7200A to the US).
TD2 is now exclusively with MSM7200A, so not for US. I guess the version with US 3G which is due later will include 7201A...if Qualcomm has not solved the patent problem since then (unlikely, as their 7200 line is at the end of its life)
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That means that all TD2 sold now are with VGA 30 FPS as I understand from what you are writing? And later there will be a specific 7201A for the US?
Expansys-usa.com is also selling the 7200 processor version
http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=179176
?
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That means that all TD2 sold now are with VGA 30 FPS as I understand from what you are writing? And later there will be a specific 7201A for the US?
Expansys-usa.com is also selling the 7200 processor version
http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=179176
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It should....or maybe HTC has decided to use software limitations to not use the 7200A abilities to record [email protected], because they figured out that would be sufficient to avoid patent litigation in the US, without having to build 2 different hardware versions with the associated problems in stock management? That would mean that 7201A would not be used anymore, and also that cooked roms (or just installation of non-US roms on US TD2/TP2, but then u have to deal with US radio with roms for non-US radio...) could easily bring video recording performance of US devices up to foreign versions. Anyway, I advise you get a 7200A version (US or foreign), which will have (or will be software upgradable to) good framerates for VGA video recording...
Surely HTC knows that using only software limitations, it would be hacked instantly
I got the English OS version, it says processor is Qualcomm 7200A.. I live in Denmark, so I assume I'm getting the European version and not one shipped from the states which has limitations..
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Surely HTC knows that using only software limitations, it would be hacked instantly
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As long as it does not bring them patent litigations, they would not care....In fact, I guess they would be all for it (while not giving any support nor warranty for non-official roms), if it means they sell more devices...
I got the English OS version, it says processor is Qualcomm 7200A.. I live in Denmark, so I assume I'm getting the European version and not one shipped from the states which has limitations..
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I am almost sure you will have the version with better VGA recording. As no official US models exist yet, no point in crippling the VGA recording at the moment...
I think you are right about HTC wouldn't mind at all
And I hope so too, thanks a lot
Missing programs
Well reading the manual it appears that HTC has removed the following programs from the Diamond 2
Adobe Reader LE
Voice Recorder
Voice Speed dial
GPRS monitor
Sprite backup
ZIP
Which where all available on the original Diamond. Is there anyway to get the "Adobe Reader LE" some other way?
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Is there anyway to get the "Adobe Reader LE" some other way?
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Not really an answer to your question, but imho pocketxpdf is much better and free. It always opens documents for me Adobe LE can't open. Adobe LE drove me nuts!
sm_allen said:
Well reading the manual it appears that HTC has removed the following programs from the Diamond 2
Adobe Reader LE
Voice Recorder
Voice Speed dial
GPRS monitor
Sprite backup
ZIP
Which where all available on the original Diamond. Is there anyway to get the "Adobe Reader LE" some other way?
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Enjoy
WM-Adobe_PDF_2.5_Diamond.cab
http://rapidshare.com/files/222629809/WM-Adobe_PDF_2.5_Diamond.cab
WM-Foxit PDF -1.4.0901.cab
http://rapidshare.com/files/222630812/WM-Foxit-1.4.0901.cab
Adobe Reader LE 2.5 is present on the TD2 already.
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Adobe Reader LE 2.5 is present on the TD2 already.
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It is indeed!
I wanna buy a topaz ,i live in Asia and intended to move to US ,does Asia topaz's 3G works in US?
does Asian and European topaz different ? (because there is different files for download in htc User Manual for "English (Asia)" and " English" ) !!!!
what am i supposed to do?
is there any way to add
Voice Recorder
Voice Speed dial
back onto the diamond 2 as they seam to be missing?
Since last week the GLONASS-network has worldwide coverage.
This is good news, as we now have another positioning network next to the GPS-network.
But even better news:
Yesterday Qualcomm revealed that (amongst others) the Desire HD has built-in support for the GLONASS-network, according to this page of Qualcomm's site:
Today we’re announcing wider support for GPS and GLONASS. Any device with a Snapdragon ™ S2 or S3 processor is capable of accessing both satellite networks.
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(For those not in the know, the DHD has an S2-processor).
When using GLONASS together with GPS one gets a more precise location, an accuracy of 2 meters instead of 10 meters.
Also one gets a faster fix on one's location and of course there's a higher reliability, with twice as many satellites to lock on to.
All-in-all good news
the processor might have support, but does the firmware/rom/whatever need updating to get the new information?
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the processor might have support, but does the firmware/rom/whatever need updating to get the new information?
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Probably.
I'm not sure HTC will release an update (but who knows), but the ROM-cooks could probably get some stuff done?
desire hd owner bumping for intrest
I do wonder what they mean with 'Today we’re announcing wider support'?
Does it mean they're releasing some kind of drivers?
Any news?
I've just read this article http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/12/16/chips.will.leverage.both.us.and.russian.satellites/ where Qualcomm confirms presence of Glonass in S2 chips. MSM8255 is a S2 chip. So is it in use or not?
Does Android itself support different location sources than GPS?
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Does Android itself support different location sources than GPS?
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Android can even not know about glonass or GPS. Chip driver sends coordinates to OS API.
But I'd to know does the chip use both systems or just GPS?
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App
High End Device
After reading the OP post i can say that i'm kind of touched by the news. If we can realy taste the GLONASS technology, that means that we realy have a High End device. This means that can pass another year untill something realy new (I refer to technology build in) will make the difference between outdated and actuality.
PS: I will stick with my DHD just in case that something new about it will get revealed.
can someone tell me what is GLONASS?? i really dont know :$
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can someone tell me what is GLONASS?? i really dont know :$
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I hope this helps.
radio-based satellite navigation system operated for the Russian government by the Russian Space Forces. It both complements and provides an alternative to the United States' Global Positioning System (GPS), the Chinese Compass navigation system and the planned Galileo positioning system of the European Union.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS
This sounds awesome to me, now if i can truely find a better battery then i cant see me needing to upgrade my phone for a good while.
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can someone tell me what is GLONASS?? i really dont know :$
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GLONASS is a Russian acronym for Globalnaya navigatsionnaya sputnikovaya sistema or Global Navigation Satellite System. The satellites are operated by the Russian Space Forces.
http://goo.gl/DjF1I
Samsung already released a Glonass enabler application for Windows Phone Mango phones.
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...ication-for-its-windows-phone-mango-handsets/
Anyone got anymore info on this? The Note sounds awesome at gettin GPS lock using glonass.
This is really good news but how do I know if it uses these satellites? Having support for it doesn't say it is really going to use it.
Which programs can use both navigation systems?
Afaik all.
Calculations are done by the chipset and it will also decide if/when activate Glonass or not.
Problem here seems we first need an "activation" of the feature by HTC....I also asked them on Facebook with no answer
Sony did it. Samsung did it. Come on.....Htc.....just tell right people what to do to have it enabled.....
Is there any way to get it ported across from something else?
^^ GPS ( Global Positioning System ) is a satellite constellation maintained by the US DoD for military and commercial use.. ( military users ofc have more rapid locks and more precision ,around 2,3 meters )
GLONASS on the other hand is its RUSSIAN rival , gps being american was more 'in' commercially while glonass lagged behind .. only recently has the russian govt made this tech available to comm users
comparing the two, GPS has better precision overall ( but GLONASS is catching up )
other countries are also deploying their own systems , like china's COMPASS ( in progress ) , EU's GALILEO ...
i wont be surprised if in the near future one has options to lock onto GPS,glonass and compass !!!
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back to topic,
hows it possible that one DHD fone can acquire fix frm both GPS and GLONASS ?
Hey guys,
before I hijack another Thread again, have som high-res pictures of the i9305 Board. I identified the Chips I could, but I couldn't get Info on all of them... I am posting this because we were wondering if the 9305 has FM Radio or not. (And it seems like it doesn't...)
Anyway find them pics here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nqqcbf0er57josh/Oaby-BzY9g
Cheers
Good Idea maybe someone with hardware knowledge can confirm But i cant see anything that looks like the chip andreilux was showing and that chip in the same location is blurry i cant see how many legs it has or any numbers on it
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This is also an interesting read
http://www.nab.org/xert/scitech/pdfs/rd031411.pdf
Which is probably why the dumbass samsung worker said its up to the carriers if they wish to include fm software maybe she was mistaken with another galaxy but unless someone can confirm it has the hardware then that worker obviously doesnt know what she is talking about
And I was doing a search and It came up under the I9300 detailed analasys a list of all the I9300 hardware
Network:
Broadcom BCM4334 - latest ultra low power solution for smartphones
Wi-fi 802.11 a/b/g/n
Bluetooth 4
Contains FM receiver (unused, Si4709 instead) <<<<<< Does this mean that the broadcom also has a fm receiver but they dont use it instead they use the SiLabs Silicon chip?
Does the I9305 have the Broadcom BCM4334??
I don't know about the Broadcom Chip, but I suspect it as this one Chip I couldn't identify... Yes, this one has a FM Receiver, but it also may be useless if it's not connected anywhere. We don't know that and we can't test that. At least I can't with my humble equipment
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I don't know about the Broadcom Chip, but I suspect it as this one Chip I couldn't identify... Yes, this one has a FM Receiver, but it also may be useless if it's not connected anywhere. We don't know that and we can't test that. At least I can't with my humble equipment
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http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM4334
If you read there it says .... The chip includes IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n single-stream MAC/baseband/radio, Bluetooth 4.0 + HS, and an integrated FM radio receiver.
I thought if its on the board it means its already wired up
A Chip beeing on a board doesn't imply it beeing fully wired up. Maybe they get a good price for this chip so they don't care about the FM part. And for why they used another chip on the 9300: I guess it was easier to layout. Maybe better reception, license fees or whatnot.
ahh well there goes that idea then... lol
I was reading this thread before http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059296
Mentions a list of products and ours was in the list but note what it says. Its funny how everyone says maybe this maybe that
Says:
These devices will likely never be able to support FM with Spirit or any FM app: (But you never know. OG Motorola Droid was found to be FM audio capable, almost 3 years after introduction in Oct. 2009)
This was in the list
- Samsung Galaxy S3 US/Canada/Japan SC-06D/etc LTE versions do not have needed WCN3660 and Broadcom combo chip FM antenna pin not connected. GT-i9305 also appears incapable of FM. NEW: GT-i9305 / 9305T may have FM hardware, but stock, un-rooted ROMs are not capable.
I also found out yes we do have the BroadCom 4334 its a Murata chipset with FM capabilities But I think one pin of the chip is not connected to anything and that is the FM. Even the I9300 have this chipset and the same pin is not connected they instead use the SiLabs FM chipset
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Says:
These devices will likely never be able to support FM with Spirit or any FM app: (But you never know. OG Motorola Droid was found to be FM audio capable, almost 3 years after introduction in Oct. 2009)
This was in the list
- Samsung Galaxy S3 US/Canada/Japan SC-06D/etc LTE versions do not have needed WCN3660 and Broadcom combo chip FM antenna pin not connected. GT-i9305 also appears incapable of FM. NEW: GT-i9305 / 9305T may have FM hardware, but stock, un-rooted ROMs are not capable.
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Well, what I write there is based on what you guys are saying and we're all trying to find out together.
Re: telephone reps on the subject of whether or not a device supports FM: They seem to be accurate about 50-60% of the time. In fairness to them, they get little info from above and are not usually too tech savvy.
To many of these phone/support people, "FM" can include all the streaming apps that have "FM" in the title (when IMO they should say "streaming" or similar.) And there are SO many phones, and variants of hardware and software, coming out at a frantic pace, that it's difficult for them or ANY of us to figure out what's going on, unless we see a stock FM app, and someone reports it works.
As for the Broadcom BCM4330/4334/etc. chips for Bluetooth/Wifi, yes they all have FM receive (and transmit, but don't ask) hardware capability. But I think at least half of the devices using them don't use the FM part, and don't have the antenna pin(s) connected, nor the audio pins. And Broadcom has most of the market for "combo" chips.
So far I think every higher end Galaxy device uses Broadcom for Bluetooth and WiFi, and not a single one uses the FM part. This includes Galaxy S/S2/S3/Note/Note2/Player. If any of these devices has FM, it's via a dedicated Silicon Labs chip: Si4709 or Si4705 on GS3 at least.
Trying to clarify the stories of reports of FM on GT-i9305:
- The Youtube video demo showed an FM app. AFAICT that person started the app and heard radio type static, but no signals. He said he was in a rural area with few signals, so who knows.
But I've written elsewhere that I think hearing static is a good sign, as it proves the audio path and FM chip are there, IMO.
- My second point relates to the Note2. I previously mistakenly thought it was for 9305, but it was Note2, perhaps the GT-i7100 model. But there are similarities between Note2 (or at least the GT-i7105 variant) and GT-i9305.
Around the time of unveiling of the Note2 I saw videos that briefly showed an FM app in the app drawer. But I don't recall any video/demo showing the FM app working, or any specific claim it was tried and worked.
- Before anyone brings it up, Internet phone spec sites are notoriously bad at small detail accuracy, particularly for FM.
mikereidis said:
Trying to clarify the stories of reports of FM on GT-i9305:
- The Youtube video demo showed an FM app. AFAICT that person started the app and heard radio type static, but no signals. He said he was in a rural area with few signals, so who knows.
But I've written elsewhere that I think hearing static is a good sign, as it proves the audio path and FM chip are there, IMO.
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The sound platforms are different for all the devices. Fact is globally all LTE variations of the S3 and Note 2 lack FM radio support, even if they magically had the hardware or pin-ups, the basic defconfig in all the kernels have the FM_RADIO base configuration turned off, not to mention the lack of GPIO pin definitions to it in any of the boards.
I would love to see a teardown of a 9305T now to see if they've installed another bandfilter to 'break' 2100MHz reception!!!
I see a chip in the GT-i9305 pics in the same position as the si4705 FM chip on the GT-i9300. It's about half the length and width (1/4 area) as on the GT-i9300 but it's there.
It could be a Silicon Labs FM chip in a smaller package size, and that's my "bet" for what it is.
In the "FM is off topic, please don't post about FM" thread, I think the best page of posts is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1932997&page=6 . AndreiLux posted a pic there showing the Si4705 between the Murata/Broadcom BT/WiFi/FM combo module/chip and the chip.
BTW, the Si4705 is U203 in the GT-i9300 service manual. There's an error claiming the Si4705 is u711, which is actually a big camera chip I guess.
There are GT-i9305 pics here: http://imgur.com/a/ypxOf#aS29c and I think best pic/resolution is pic 6 of 11 (0?) here: http://imgur.com/a/ypxOf#aS29c
In that pic 6, the Murata/Broadcom module is at lower left. Immediately to it's right is a small surface mount component at top, and below it what may be a chip.
Move to the right from the component and you see what I think is the Silicon Labs FM chip. There are several solder bumps.
For reference, further to the right and below is the white push button switch.
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Software wise, my suspicion would be that a kernel for the GT-i9300 that supported the chip would "magically" support this alleged FM chip, using whatever constants and port values worked for 9300. It's the same Exynos SOC pretty much, and the board layouts are similar, right ?
ewok666 said:
I would love to see a teardown of a 9305T now to see if they've installed another bandfilter to 'break' 2100MHz reception!!!
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The I9305 Runs on the 2100mhz are you saying that the I9305T may not?
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Software wise, my suspicion would be that a kernel for the GT-i9300 that supported the chip would "magically" support this alleged FM chip, using whatever constants and port values worked for 9300. It's the same Exynos SOC pretty much, and the board layouts are similar, right ?
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Yes its the same exynos SOC and layous are similar .
Maybe andreilux has some input on your post, its very interesting.
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Yes its the same exynos SOC and layous are similar .
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Thanks for the email log. So yours is a 9305 on Vodafone AU ?
I have another log from a 9305T on Telstra AU, but it wasn't rooted so I get less info.
The only sign of FM on either device is the "FM In" control in the ALSA audio driver. This doesn't prove anything one way or another though; "phantom" controls on variants are common.
If anyone can look closer at the FM chip and Murata module area, please do, and if you can, post high res pictures.
Besides that I look forward to someone building and installing a kernel with the Samsung Si4709_driver / radio-si4709-i2c drivers enabled, either in the main kernel or as loadable *.ko drivers. There are alternative V4L drivers for si470x but the Samsung ones are preferred for my app, and needed for the Samsung app.
IMO, a kernel dev could pretty much use the config from a GT-i9300.
These investigations usually end in defeat, and I could be wrong, but I'm feeling optimistic about this one with the evidence so far.
I see 4 kernel variants:
GT-I9305
GT-I930N
GT-I9305T_SEA
GT-I9305_HK
All use arch/arm/configs/m3_00_defconfig and none have the FM driver enabled. Interestingly GT-I9305_HK m3_00_variant_defconfig has some stuff for variants, but nothing impacts FM:
3vzw="CONFIG_TARGET_LOCALE_USA=y CONFIG_MACH_M3_USA_VZW=y"
m3vzw_undef="TARGET_LOCALE_EUR \
SND_USE_LINEOUT_SWITCH USB_SERIAL_CSVT"
m3spr="CONFIG_TARGET_LOCALE_USA=y CONFIG_MACH_M3_USA_SPR=y"
m3spr_undef="TARGET_LOCALE_EUR \
SND_USE_LINEOUT_SWITCH USB_SERIAL_CSVT"
m3tmo="CONFIG_TARGET_LOCALE_USA=y CONFIG_MACH_M3_USA_TMO=y"
m3tmo_undef="TARGET_LOCALE_EUR \
SND_USE_LINEOUT_SWITCH USB_SERIAL_CSVT"
m3att="CONFIG_TARGET_LOCALE_USA=y CONFIG_MACH_M3_USA_ATT=y"
m3att_undef="TARGET_LOCALE_EUR \
SND_USE_LINEOUT_SWITCH USB_SERIAL_CSVT"
m3dcm="CONFIG_TARGET_LOCALE_JPN=y CONFIG_MACH_M3_JPN_DCM=y \
CONFIG_EXYNOS4_MSHC_SUPPORT_PQPRIME_EPLL=y \
CONFIG_FELICA=y CONFIG_ISDBT=y CONFIG_ISDBT_FC8150=y"
m3dcm_undef="TARGET_LOCALE_EUR \
SND_USE_LINEOUT_SWITCH USB_SERIAL_CSVT NFC_DEVICES PN65N_NFC"
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From the m0_00_defconfig file for GT-i9300 I think we need these 3 lines, but not sure about "Samsung Modules":
CONFIG_SAMSUNG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_FM_RADIO=y
CONFIG_FM_SI4705=y
mikereidis said:
Thanks for the email log. So yours is a 9305 on Vodafone AU ?
I have another log from a 9305T on Telstra AU, but it wasn't rooted so I get less info.
The only sign of FM on either device is the "FM In" control in the ALSA audio driver. This doesn't prove anything one way or another though; "phantom" controls on variants are common.
If anyone can look closer at the FM chip and Murata module area, please do, and if you can, post high res pictures.
Besides that I look forward to someone building and installing a kernel with the Samsung Si4709_driver / radio-si4709-i2c drivers enabled, either in the main kernel or as loadable *.ko drivers. There are alternative V4L drivers for si470x but the Samsung ones are preferred for my app, and needed for the Samsung app.
IMO, a kernel dev could pretty much use the config from a GT-i9300.
These investigations usually end in defeat, and I could be wrong, but I'm feeling optimistic about this one with the evidence so far.
Downloading the Samung kernel source now to see if their config disables the FM driver. Will edit this post with an answer.
I see 4 kernel variants:
GT-I9305
GT-I930N
GT-I9305T_SEA
GT-I9305_HK
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Yes Vodafone is my network provider, I will see if OP can get High res pics... And Andreilux already made the kernel with FM but didnt want to release it untill 100% sure about FM... becuase it may brick a device??
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Yes Vodafone is my network provider, I will see if OP can get High res pics... And Andreilux already made the kernel with FM but didnt want to release it untill 100% sure about FM... becuase it may brick a device??
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I seriously doubt bricking potential, but with software you never ever know for sure until you try. Communications with the chip is via I2C, not potentially dangerous GPIOs. but there are some GPIOs used for power and who knows what else.
I note that this is a somewhat new si4705 driver Samsung has in drivers/samsung/fm_si47xx for GT-i9300, although it seems little different from the Galaxy S/S2/Note fm_si4709 driver, at first glance at least.
For anyone interested, there is some useful information here about FM missing from the original US LTE GS3s, compared to GT-i9300: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31576462
There are various pics, schematic excerpts and a bit about the differences with Si4705 versus the si4709 of the International Galaxy S/S2/Notes.
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The I9305 Runs on the 2100mhz are you saying that the I9305T may not?
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No, I'm saying that on past 'T' models the 2100MHz band was attenuated to reduce signal and make them prefer other bands. This is a link but the discussion has been had here before and you should be able to find pictures showing the element discussed.
http://webdevsys.com/gt-i9100t.htm
mikereidis said:
I seriously doubt bricking potential, but with software you never ever know for sure until you try. Communications with the chip is via I2C, not potentially dangerous GPIOs. but there are some GPIOs used for power and who knows what else.
I note that this is a somewhat new si4705 driver Samsung has in drivers/samsung/fm_si47xx for GT-i9300, although it seems little different from the Galaxy S/S2/Note fm_si4709 driver, at first glance at least.
For anyone interested, there is some useful information here about FM missing from the original US LTE GS3s, compared to GT-i9300: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31576462
There are various pics, schematic excerpts and a bit about the differences with Si4705 versus the si4709 of the International Galaxy S/S2/Notes.
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Good research Mike! we'll just wait till andreilux joins the convo, as he has the knowledge of creating the Kernel side.
Also you might like to know that apparently the Law in hong kong restricts the use of Fm radio in Mobile devices, as i have been told by a few suppliers.
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No, I'm saying that on past 'T' models the 2100MHz band was attenuated to reduce signal and make them prefer other bands. This is a link but the discussion has been had here before and you should be able to find pictures showing the element discussed.
http://webdevsys.com/gt-i9100t.htm
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Whether it's true or not, my i9305T appears to have equal or better reception on optus than my i9000 (hard to tell 100% but it certainly crazy fast with H+ at my home! My i9000 was almost always crawling on H (hsdpa? the naming scheme really confuses me). I may try to install a stock i9305 modem in future to test though
Well i know for a fact the i9305 is fine on every network in australia just depends on the providor on what speed and quality you will get. And yes we have Dc-hspa+ which is 2 times faster then normal 3g hspa+ ...which is why your getting high speeds. Our phone will still only show h+ if we are on DC i already looked into that .Just imagine 4g.. browsing will go on yet a whole other level again! Lol
I think the 9305t is the same thing to be honest unless telstra did restrict a band to force people to stick with them. That is what you would call a big shifty company.
Becausr the i9300t was the same as the i9300. So i am only assuming this would be the same
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The I9305 Runs on the 2100mhz are you saying that the I9305T may not?
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Yes its the same exynos SOC and layous are similar .
Maybe andreilux has some input on your post, its very interesting.
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btemtd said:
Well i know for a fact the i9305 is fine on every network in australia just depends on the providor on what speed and quality you will get. And yes we have Dc-hspa+ which is 2 times faster then normal 3g hspa+ ...which is why your getting high speeds. Our phone will still only show h+ if we are on DC i already looked into that .Just imagine 4g.. browsing will go on yet a whole other level again! Lol
I think the 9305t is the same thing to be honest unless telstra did restrict a band to force people to stick with them. That is what you would call a big shifty company.
Becausr the i9300t was the same as the i9300. So i am only assuming this would be the same
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Can't say much about the i9300 vs i9300T or the i9305 for that matter BUT what I do know is that the i9100 was supposed to be the same as the i9100T and it very clearly was not. From my own experience the i9100T was sh1t in some areas where an i9100 was perfectly fine and a teardown showed a bandfilter where the i9100 had none.
On Whirlpool is a guy who flashed the Singapore firmware onto his Telstra i9305T and promptly lost 4G. He flashed back the Telstra firmware and got 4G back. I have the Singapore firmware on an i9305 (non T) and my 4G works just fine.
Now, you tell me what to conclude from this but I will not spend a single cent on another T model....I just don't need this kind of crap! (and by crap I don't mean the phone itself but rather the practice of crippling something that works perfectly fine just so you can force your customers one way or the other!)
Hi guys here is a good news for you. Two new official firefox os phones are announced. Take a look at this page
http://www.gsmarena.com/the_first_f...official_meet_the_keon_and_peak-news-5389.php
Here's the youtube video of the Keon:
Has there been any indication of the price, and are they selling the developer ones as Unlocked GSM? If they are cheap enough I may buy one as a second phone.
Not oficial, but Geeksphone tell us on comunity that they wants to sell the Keon (low range) under 120€ and Peak(mid range) under 200€.
SIM free and work on all networks, and open source
Hardware:
Keon
CPU Qualcomm Snapdragon S1 7225AB 1Ghz.
UMTS 2100/1900/900 (3G HSPA).
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 (2G EDGE).
Screen 3.5" HVGA Multitouch.
Camera 3 MP.
4 GB (ROM) and 512 (RAM).
MicroSD, Wifi N, Light & Prox. Sensor, G-Sensor, GPS, MicroUSB.
Battery 1580 mAh.
Peak
CPU Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 8225 1.2Ghz x2.
UMTS 2100/1900/900 (3G HSPA).
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 (2G EDGE).
Screen 4.3" qHD IPS Multitouch.
Camera 8 MP (back) + 2 MP (front).
4 GB (ROM) and 512 (RAM).
MicroSD, Wifi N, Light & Prox. Sensor, G-Sensor, GPS, MicroUSB, Flash (camera).
Battery 1800 mAh.
Source:http://www.geeksphone.com/
I signed up for the mailing list. I'd really like to get one of those to develop on.
Id love to get my hands on one of these aswell. Sick of playing with it through firefox
GT-I9300 omega v38 JB
Arnova 10g2 morka mod
Need one of those. I want to try and mess around with it, plus the specs aren't bad.
thanx men
Keon + FirefoxOS
I'm using a Keon GeeksPhone with FirefoxOS.
It's working good! I found some limitarions and problems, but since it is a developer preview phone/system, is working very well.
I post some comments on my blog (in Portuguese)
You can see more devices working ready in the Mobile World Conference.
Looking forward to investing in the Peak
Ste_JDM said:
Looking forward to investing in the Peak
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Yeah the peak looks nice
Sent through the interwebs
keon and peak
Did anyone buy a keon or peak? If yes then please post a review .
just wondering how to get the source code of modem driver for some international version devices to get it working
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I just got my Peak this morning. Still fumbling around with it.
Mines on order, should be here in a couple of days.
Sent from my fingers to your eyes.
goyjuss said:
I just got my Peak this morning. Still fumbling around with it.
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Sorry to bother, but do you recall what your order number was? Geeksphone order checking website is down, and while I know my order number, I have no idea what the timing of the shipment looks like.
Many thanks!
For those of you that have received them:
How is email (specifically Gmail) handled in FF OS right now? Is it just the mobile web version, or are there any clients with that have better offline functionality?
Google searches and searching the FF marketplace aren't turning up much-- maybe it's time to start a building an email client in my free time?
Is Firefox OS growing at all.? Active development.?
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Looking forward to see the market evolution on this one.
Unix still has a lot to prove!