Qwerty Keyboard - "W" & "S" - Wing, P4350 General

I havent dropped my wing or anything but the "W" and "S" keys on the qwerty keyboard have been losing their sensitivity for the past few weeks. I have to press REALLY hard to get them to work
Anyone know if this would be fixed by replacing the keys or might this be something deeper? I'm toying with the idea of taking it apart - I'm not a stranger to taking apart some of my other phones - but the wing is way more complicated than anything I've done before....
TIA

See if you still have waranty before you take your herald apart.
If so...take it back to the store you've bought it from cause once you've taken apart your device all waranty is lost.
If not...i have see several how-to's to disassemble your herald with good pictures. Try google because i cant't find the exact location where i saw them, perhaps howards forum? Spare parts a sold all over internet or try to buy a broken version for someone over here...might even be cheaper.

Jaidnoire said:
I havent dropped my wing or anything but the "W" and "S" keys on the qwerty keyboard have been losing their sensitivity for the past few weeks. I have to press REALLY hard to get them to work
Anyone know if this would be fixed by replacing the keys or might this be something deeper? I'm toying with the idea of taking it apart - I'm not a stranger to taking apart some of my other phones - but the wing is way more complicated than anything I've done before....
TIA
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i had the same problem, before i broke my 1st wing, after about 5 months into having the phone the "S" button started losing its sensitivty and only worked when i to pressed it down really hard and even sometime it still wouldnt work, now that i had a new wing for a while the same thing is happening again with the "S" button but this time about 8 months into having the phone, i dont know why its doing that but its real annoying when i am textin something

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Hermes broken? Clicks upper right corner constantly!

I've had my 8525 for about 3 months, and now it constantly clicks the upper right hand corner and exits all of my programs! I'll soft-reset and sometimes it wont boot up, it just hangs at the windows logo screen. I upgraded the ROM to the newest from Cingular thinking it was some program that was doing it, but it comes back.
When it's in portrait mode, it's the upper right hand corner. When it's in landscape, it clicks the start button(upper left) so I dont think its a program thats making it click, but something physical touching that certain spot. Anyone have any idea?! I thought something was stuck in there but it's clean.. this is so annoying, I cant even make a call since it clicks exit when it comes up! It stops SOMETIMES for a few minutes but then it comes back after a while.. anyone else?
Give it a yung choo kung foo whack, take a run-up.
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Sounds knackered, you could try the screen alignment fix, pressure from the gasket may be causing this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=How to fix the Screen Aligment issue
Your best bet is to send it back for repair though .
I bought it off ebay.. so no warranty
It's weird because I take a very slim credit card( 1/2 the thickness as regular cards) and slide it in and bring up the plastic around the screen and it STILL does it!! nothing is touching the screen at all. Also, my alignment is still spot on perfect.. what gives?
Oh yeah, I did smack it a few times and it works sometimes.. It's been okay right now for about an hour but I know it's going to be short lived..
Did you try loosening the screws?
MilanoRex said:
I've had my 8525 for about 3 months, and now it constantly clicks the upper right hand corner and exits all of my programs!
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Yours is the third or forth report of that error. My Trion had the exact same problem, and I needed to exchange it (bought it new from O2, so it was under warranty).
None of the screen alignment fixes I tried made any difference. The problem was also temperature dependent - when the Trion was cold, everything was okay. Leaving backlight on and listening to MP3s for five minutes was enough to make the problem appear - first, only a few fake 'taps', then more and more, and eventually the screen didn't recognize any of my taps at all.
So it seems to be a hardware issue. The only software solution I could think of: back in WM 2003 days, there was a registry setting to increase/decrease the touchscreen sensitivity. If it still exists in WM5 (don't know, sorry. Others may be able to tell you), you could try setting it to be quite insensitive. Might help.
Cheers
Daniel
tadzio said:
Yours is the third or forth report of that error. My Trion had the exact same problem, and I needed to exchange it (bought it new from O2, so it was under warranty).
None of the screen alignment fixes I tried made any difference. The problem was also temperature dependent - when the Trion was cold, everything was okay. Leaving backlight on and listening to MP3s for five minutes was enough to make the problem appear - first, only a few fake 'taps', then more and more, and eventually the screen didn't recognize any of my taps at all.
So it seems to be a hardware issue. The only software solution I could think of: back in WM 2003 days, there was a registry setting to increase/decrease the touchscreen sensitivity. If it still exists in WM5 (don't know, sorry. Others may be able to tell you), you could try setting it to be quite insensitive. Might help.
Cheers
Daniel
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Thanks for the reply, now that I think of it, it only happens when it's warm. Looks like I'm SOL. Oh well, I guess ill put up with it until the iPhone comes out.. ill try loosening the screws too.
Your case is putting pressure on that part of your screen. It is not device specific. Slip a piece of paper under the case to check for clearance. I use under the case screen protectors and have seen this before. You may be able to simple pry the case and create some clearance.
I have exactly the same symptoms. It seems the registry settings do not exist in the Hermes to adjust the sensitivity so I am thinking return for replacement must be the only option. Argh! I feel defeated
MilanoRex said:
Thanks for the reply, now that I think of it, it only happens when it's warm. Looks like I'm SOL. Oh well, I guess ill put up with it until the iPhone comes out.. ill try loosening the screws too.
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The iPhone? You're going to actually exchange this beautiful piece of full-fledged mini-computer &phone in one goodness for an iPhone? Note: This was not meant to flame anything or anybody. If you feel that I have, I deeply apologise.
jotham said:
I have exactly the same symptoms. It seems the registry settings do not exist in the Hermes to adjust the sensitivity so I am thinking return for replacement must be the only option. Argh! I feel defeated
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I've inserted a small piece of plastic between the frame and the screen (one month ago).
Here you will find a resume of proposed working solutions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1056346&postcount=227
Can you tell us the serial of your Hermes? (HTC62xxxxx, 63, 64)
That is the same problem I had with my 8525. I tried ALL the solutions here in the forum but nothing solved it. I finally returned it to Cingular and they gave me a brand new one with zero hassle. Two weeks in on the new one, and it's working like a champ (knock on wood).
the S/N is HT657xxxx
Nothing is putting pressure on the screen, I've pried some clearence between that part of the screen and it still does it. I dont even have a Cingular account, so I doubt they'd help me
My only other option is to take it apart(following the japanese website instructions) and see what's going on.. Maybe something underneath the screen is doing it? I dont know..
Oh yeah, not only did i loosen the screws behind the screen but I completely removed them and it STILL does it. I found the registry setting for screen sensitivity and lowered it from 7,xxxx to 5,xxx and it did nothing..

fix buttons

I was wondering if it is possible to replace/resolder/fix the buttons (ie green phone button - not the keyboard)?
Has anybody had to fix theirs yet? I don't think it is worth the money to have it fixed in a service center. I could almost buy a new one for the same $$$. Maybe a bricked hermes for replacement parts?
The buttons can still be pressed but you have to hit them pretty hard to get them to register...
Comments/advice welcome!
thanks!
Mike
Ps: just read the service manual. Looks easy enough.... Am I missing something?
Mike,
Have you completed the repair yet? How did it go? All my front panel buttons (green,red, ok, Windows, soft keys, d-pad, video call, mail and IE) on my Dopod 838 Pro have stopped working, and I think I may have to open it up.
Went just fine. I followed the service manual - spent time checking and rechecking everything before I touched it. Don't use a leatherman to open the case - an old creditcard is way better and doesn't scratch the housing. Changed the housing while I was at it. I really like the black Orange-look!
on hindsight:
I was a bit surprised to see the amount of $$$ bricked phones go for at ebay though... Money-wise the gap between getting a new phone and selling the old one for parts and fixing it is not as big as I would have liked it to be.
good luck with your project!
Michael

Extra Letters.. HELP!

i just bought this phone less than a month ago, its an AT&T 8525 and out of no where one night it just started typing multiple buttons for no reason while trying to text with the keyboard.
I have tried reflashing a few different roms and am now back to the AT&T version of WM6 and im still having the same problem, i havent dropped the phone or anything so someone please help.. its ony on specific letters such as..
when pressing L or P it always types LP.
when pressing T or U it always types TU.
when pressing G or J it always types GJ.
when pressing V or N it always types VN.
its ONLY those letters and only types those combinations its like the signals in the phone are getting mixed up on those letters or something and i have no idea why it started or how to fix it, ive tried installing the 8525 keyboard fix and it does nothing.
PLEASE HELP!
If its under warranty take it back otherwise you can try to open and fix but that will void the warranty.
Heres the guide to disassemble - http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com/PersonalSpace.aspx?_c02_owner=1
Make sure you have a size 6 torque ey, a flat blade(small) and a phillips head(small). Fairly easy and unless you are REALLY heavy handed you can't do to much damage. Your Hermes is fairly resilient.
Cheers....
hmm okay now if i disassemble it then how do i know what to do to fix it??
At the site I gave you, look for mikes guide on keyboard problems... It tells you how to check certain things if you have problems. If that doesn't fix, I'd buy a broken hermes on ebay or something and use the parts... Oh, thats right, I did...
Cheers...

Keyboard problems

Well Im really upset... It takes me almost a month to get a replacement LCD screen for my Wing and I am proud to say i took it apart and put it make together making sure all is right.. (ribbons..screws..yellow tape...) and guess what it powers on, reads the sim, get a signal, phone works..BUT NO KEYBOARD.
Actually The only letter that do work are the e,f,h,n,o and if i hit the caps lock i get them to go caps but i get no indicator light to turn on. Same thing for the ALT indicator light. What in the world could have gone wrong? i was so careful taking it apart and putting it together for this to happen? I even did a hard reset thinking this might solve my problems? nothing its all the same.
any ideas?
you probably messed up a ribbon or something, its pretty easy to do it. I've heard stories of people messing up their keyboards when they replace the screens, so it's not really a common issue.
If you're still under warranty, slap on the original rom, un-hardspl, and call tmobile and tell them it just stopped working.
if not under warranty, do the same thing, and then raise plenty of hell when they tell you that your warranty is over (hint- ask for their supervisor)
Im going to try to take it apart again. maybe i missed something on the rebuild. it sad to think that after i was so carefull i screwed up the ribbon cable. if that fail ill try tmobile..
I'm experiencing the same thing. Were you able to resolve the issue by re-seating any of the cabling, or doing a hard reset? I don't have warranty on it so I may just have to replace the cabling if my futile attempts of fixing what I have now finally sinks in.
Still not working
junior120872
I took it apart one more time and with a magnifying glass reseated the ribbon. Looking at the ribbon closely there is nothing wrong with it. I looked everything over. still no keyboard. i hate giving up but at this point i have nothing i can do over to get this to work..
Ill probably sell it for parts now.
I have a problem with my keyboard I have an azerty keyboard but now I use an english rom (and the phisical keyboard is on qwerty). How Can I remove my azerty keyboard to my pda ?
Thx..
you can always use the herald service manual to disassemble the device, remove the keyboard, and replace it with one salvaged from a broken herald or something, but you run the risk of running into the problem detailed here.
What you can also do is use Duprade's keyboard fix and create a custom patch for yourself and just learn to use Azerty. This is alot easier than the above process.

Front buttons don't work anymore

I just want to share with you this problem and know if anyone else has it in the Mini. The front buttons don't work anymore, and some parts of the screen are not as responsive as they were before. The window that opens when you tap the upper bar for instance, is very hard to get now, so seems to be something that affects the whole front part of the phone...
Hard reset didn't solve the problem, a different rom or even using Android didn't either, so I sent it to repair, since it's still covered by the warranty.
Same problem anyone? Any idea of why this happened? I've never ever dropped my phone, not even once...
Anyway, 15-20 days to have it back (they said...)
Fixed!! 13 days and phone like new, they even cleaned it, looks like brand new from the factory
Thanks HTC!!

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