I am running WM6.11 - explode I think with the HTC extended rom apps. However I notice that under WM2003 there is a slider to change the allocation of RAM between storage and programs - I dont have this facility on my IIs and run out of storage RAM on the phone despite having plenty of free RAM for programs. It seems that even if I install the application on the card, RAM is still eaten up out of the phone storage - I guess thats the OS system.
However, If it can be done in 2003 then surely WM6.11 can do it - but I need help to re-allocate RAM between storage and programs.
Thanks
it is inpossible in WM5\6\6.1 your information is wrong
storage ram/program ram
I had the same problem, when I converged my EXTrom. I had 93mb in programs and only 64mb in storage. It takes much more storage than program ram, XPLODE, my question is was there a possibility that I/we could have changed this BEFORE we converged?
Also, I and a few others are having a problem with your 6.11 sound disappearing after "X" amount of uses with it (see some replies the past few days)
Don't get me wrong, YOUR 6.11 upgrade is FANTASTIC, I just lost sound and the capability to answer my phone as well as NO SOUND!
GCopher
SX66-BA-ROM ver.:6.11.00 WWE (xplode)
Radio version:-1.15.00
Protocol Ver.: 1337.45
Ext.version:
The same problem here!!
I was also wondering if there is any trick to increase the storage capacity from the programs RAM
FYI: In WM5/6 Storage and RAM have nothing common. Storage is a part of flash memory, that is not used for ROM, and RAM is fully used as normal, regular RAM. Thanks to this when you take the battery out, you never loose data and settings like in case of PPC2003 and older.
That's why there is no storage-RAM slider in WM5/6.
In case of BA, after switching to WM5/6 you have 128MB RAM and that's all. Cannot be less, cannot be more.
Talking about capacity - if you went through correct procedure, you should have repartioned flash memory giving back some space that was reserved for ExtendedROM. All the info you can find in the Wiki.
Thanks for the info - maybe I have not repartitioned my RAM then, I just put it in bootloader mode and flashed it!
I appreciate your impatience with people new to this and this is probably why many senior members just say 'its in the wiki' with the unspoken bit implying find it yourself. However the wiki is not an easy document to find what you want and I know I'm not alone there.
Still, I wil revisit the wiki and see if i can find info on this topic that I have previously missed. Thanks.
partioning the MEM
I followed the wiki to the letter, however, it did not say anything about giving back to the EXTrom. I just went by the procedure and I have 93 mg to storage and 64 to program. no Extrom, and flashed to xplode's 6.11 along with other programs. I do not have to worry with loosing my programs any longer however, the program space is what the problem is. there isn't enough room for most of what I like on my BA. LOTS of space in the Storage. One would think that it should have been one big storage space for both just like a regular PC.
I have had my BA for 2 years and never need to ask any questions I just followed the WIKI. Now I have these questions.
Now that I did load 6.11, now I have no sound after a few days of use. It just disappeared. I can't hear from it and no one can hear me. the phone will dial and it responds to calls but, no sound.
I Would appreciate it of the seniors would not make people like us FEEL stupid, when we ask a make sense question. I have searched the WIKI and through the forums and I get no answer thru these means , therefore, I must ask the question, when I feel it is necessary.
Thank you for your rationality.
gcopher
gcopher, have you ever try to hard reset your BA after that sound problem appeared?
Sound problem after 6.11
Yes I have, I am an A+ certified hardware and network geek and I know enough about programming to be dangerous, I have successfully used this site for the past 2 years up grading my BA with the latest, until now. I decided to upgrade to xplode 6.11, of which I thought wa excellent and still do, I used my BA for several days without a glitch (other than the blue tooth problem with the BA as I think everyone else does, that I have to wear in my shirt pocket when I am talking) The only thing I did was install 6.1 word and excel, when I reset (soft), then the problem occurred, since I have hard reset and even re-installed WM6 to try and shell it. No fix. I am looking in the forum archives for a sound fix, if any. Thank you for asking though.
Here this last few days is the first time I have actually posted something here in the forum, other than posting about having the same problem with the bluetooth problem everyone has, the BA has a VERY small chip for blue tooth. I have several (6) BA for spare parts. I have replaced 2 screens on my own, but I repair cell phones for a hobby. (mostly motorolas) I get the parts fairly cheap. I like to take junk or something that is broken and repair them, I get some self edification from that, kind of weird but I am a musician geek (bass player, and active with a band in the Tulsa, OK area)
Thank you for the suggestion though.
I hope you had a great 4th!
If sound issue doesn't go off after proper HR (the one with NO YES YES), all you can do is to go back to a tested ROM (even wm5) and check if sound will work again. If your RadioROM is up to date (1.13 or 1.15) it might be just coincidence with hardware failure - speaker/mic or just sth on the mainboard.
And about Wiki:
first step of the wizard after choosing upgrade to WM6 from 2003: Expanding the Storage memory
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade1_WM2003SE0
Anyway, gcopher, your flash seems to be partitioned correctly.
This thread seems to have developed into two directions but thats OK I have something to say about both.
I have read the wiki - used the unhide, unlock and repartition programs successfuly. Then flashed 6.11 xplode successfully. I then go to the memory option in Settings->System and have EXACTLY the same problem as before - the ram is divided into storage and programs and there is no way that I can see to shift some program ram to the storage or vice versa. Perhaps most users dont run many programs on their BA's but I start running out of storage on the phone when there is still loads of program ram - the fact thet I also have a 4gig SD card doesnt help. I find that even when I install as many apps as I can on the SD card I still run out of storage on the phone.
As for the sound. I too lost my sound AND the camers when I upgraded initially - nothing seemed to work and I was convinced it was a hardware fault. I was so fed up I took the batery out and left it for a few days, long enough for the internal backup battery to also run down. Once powered up again it all worked perfectly and has worked ever since.
Frustrating as hell isnt it when you feel like your the only one with a problem and noone else has ever come across it - even more frustrating when your given simplistic advice in minimal detail
I will do a lil explaination, when you delete the partition for extromyou add this space to the phone storage, the only one known way for increasing storage in WM5/6/6.1 is with ramdisk, but it is not working well in WM6/6.1 it is inpossible to make it with slider and allocate memory to ram or storage as in WM2003
arcnet: and to finish storage/RAM problem: Like in the PC you cannot just like that exchange Hard Drive space with RAM, same way you cannot just like that exchange storage (that is something like Hard drive space) with RAM (that is like... RAM
And to explain it all: If you run out of disk space you usually don't try to use some of the RAM as the Hard Disk Space. You can just install another hard drive. In case of PDAs and your BA in specific: consider installing all the big applications on the SD card. This should solve your problem completely.
Tanks Coach!
This is what I am working on now, checking, and going back, being that I have quite a few other BA parts I can go back and replace, however, I will go back and even do the WM2003 if I have to, I have tried many times to hard reset, however, I think I may have caused a problem with that, (I can fix it) but my BA just restores itself. I have placed most of my regular programs on the storage card. It just comes right back up to my background and original settings. I will have to pull the card ans reset it. Either way, I will have to trouble shoot the problem, I have checked out the "soundfix" file no go. The uni-directional file already exists and will not re-install. I will re-install WM5 and see if it comes back on OR start replacing parts.
I had saved the EXTrom on my storage card, as the instructions said.
The program storage has all of the space, and the Storage file has very little, seems it should have been the other way around, this is what the other guy was talking about. If it was possible to go back and re-allocate the two, so storage could have more of the space.
Thank you for your kind response, this is what I love about this site. I feel good about have all of the knowledge and access to programs for this wonderful Device of mine.
Have a pleasant day!
Greg
arcnet said:
This thread seems to have developed into two directions but thats OK I have something to say about both.
Sorry Arcnet, I do not intent to take this thread both directions...... I should have taken the sound prob to a different thread,
I needed to voice that I wanted to understand your delima,as I had the same wonder. I used my storage card for all that I could and I still have used 92% of my program ram space and still have more than 60% of my storage, as only using 2% of my card. I moved all I could to the card and reclaimed about 10%, however, If I wanted to place more on it, it would still take up more as there is only 64 mg available in Programs and most of the allocation in Storage.
What xplode is trying to say is, the BA comes with 64 mg of ram built in, this is all you can use for programs.
The slider was for EXTrom and storage, that is more like a hard drive on the device. This is separate from the RAM for programs. What we merged was the storage, and got rid of the volatile mem (EXTrom) and gave it ALL to storage. it was never available to programs.
Be sure that every time you install a program...choose your card, if at all possible, the program will tell you (my experience) if it will not run from storage (your card).....................G
Adding to this,I have successfully reloaded the xplode 6.11 with success with restoring the sound. I will let you k now IF it goes out again, in about a week.
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Another problem that I noticed (with my BA anyway) is that even if I choose to install applications in the SD card, the storage space reduces as well
I don't know if this related to the BA or the ROM (which is sundream's rom) but this is what's happening with my BA. As a result, I run out of storage space very rapidly..
Any clues??
Just because you select to install to storage card does not mean that all files are copied there. Some files HAVE to be installed in the windows directory. Try installing memaid or tweak2k net and transfer dlls to the storage card, that will free up some memory , depending on what you have installed
Thanks for your answer scousemartin
I have another question though: how much memory can we get if we aplly the resize stuff with 2003??? What I mean is: is it worth the hastle??
If you did not repartition flash to get rid of ExtROM you loose 12 (or 16, I can never remember) MB. It's always worth to have more storage memory, that is otherwise totally lost.
If you have a "sound disappearing" problem, try NOT TO CLOSE (by X button, add to ignored) any players when they are playing. Especially Windows Media Player. That solved the problem for me.
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I 'm now using 2 gb of memory. When i turn off my screen for a moment and trun on the screen. There is nothing comming up. I have to reset my hermes. Pls advise..what 's wrong ? Before i used 1 gb of memory, i never seen this problem.One thing i use calendar plus on the today screen.
After selling my Wizard to get the Hermes, I have discovered that the Hermes is a VERY unstable device.
I have experienced (and still do sometimes) what you are experiencing. From what I can see, this is normal for this device. If this continues, I'll have to sell this and get something else. The other day my device did this and I called it from my house phone to see if it would even ring, and it did not. I guess I could live with the PDA locking up, but if it interferes with the devices primary function as a phone, it's totally unacceptable.
jcute, i was having this problem for a bit, but my issue only occured when it was on the charger and i temporarily shut off the screen, it would then not turn on and would have to softreset every time
i noticed this problem occuring after installing some software including weather software (cant recall exactly which) and skype, not sure which one was the main problem but wasnt using either hence their uninstall and correcting of the problem
good luck, try removing some recently installd software and seeing if the problem persists and perhaps try removing the microsd card and running ur phone without it for a bit to see if the problem is the card
time for rom upgrade ?
thanks for info. I tried to unplug micro sd 2 gb and press power button again ..it 's work !!after that i plugin micro sd again but some icon 's missing at the today screen. Ex. resco today icon , psshutdown, photo contact.....So the question is that i have to do this everytime when screen 's off???
After upgrading to AKU 3.3 and installing my programs only to the main memory, I've noticed far fewer lockups as opposed to before when I ran many programs such as Pocket Player or GPRS monitor from my 2gb sandisk.
I guess the moral of the story is, try not to install programs that access your memory card while your phone is in sleep mode.
DonnieZ said:
I guess I could live with the PDA locking up, but if it interferes with the devices primary function as a phone, it's totally unacceptable.
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I would not get a Hermes if I wanted it to be a phone primarily. IMHO most of these devices XDAs, are primarily PDAs with a phone tacked on.
Just a humble observation
Mike
my problem is when i scroll or drag the side bar too fast (inside memory card),the device will hang and need to soft reset.
can anybody solve this problem??
Goto www.softwinter.com and try out storage tools. I've found that a regular repair and defrag help the load times from the storage card tremendously. Also, someone mentioned above that reformating your storage card with fat32 helps and I too can confirm that. Let us know if that helps or not.
Lance
one more thing, when i reset my hermes, it hangs at the welcome screen. I always get this problem.
Hi, did some searching and I believe this topic wasnt covered anywhere else...
The thing is, sometimes when I remove memory card from the phone, some files get lost or corrupted even though no programs were running at the time...so I was wondering is there any way to remove the memory card properly, i.e. there is a menu option on the Nokia N80 'Remove memory card' which closes all running processes so that the mem. card can be removed safely..
the phone in question is a G4 Neo with 2.20.7.114 ExtROM version if thats of any use.
any help is appreciated. cheers
This is very strange. Did you get a chance to test this card in another phone / PPC or at least a card reader?
There is no option like you describe on WM devices but as long as there really is no app actually writing (reading doesn't matter) to the card there should be no problem.
I can tell you from experience that I pulled various (some fairly cheap) cards out from my jamin and other devices even while programs that were installed on them were running (not the best practice) but no files were ever damaged and certainly nothing was lost.
tried it with the reader and with few other xda's, seems to be working fine...hope that was a once off thing...anyway, if theres no option under wm, theres not much choice really.. thanks anyway
yup...I've never faced this issue either, despite my impatience
just found about 30 000 lost files on the memory card with PCs scandisk, (file0245.chk, etc) that were taking up about 3 GB of space
the memory card removal might have been just a coincidence. I think WM Torrent is the one to blame cause sometimes it tends to crash the XDA and files get missing....
I backup the comment from the thread originator. Sometime a spontanious removal of the card causes loosing some of the files in the filesystem. I experienced this several times when making photos. Newly made photos got lost. Seems like problem with syncing two copies of FAT.
Maybe stopping the SD driver with Fdc Soft's TaskMgr should do the trick.
I would recommend to try both FAT format (16 and 32), and launch a complete checkdisk on them after formating to get rid of these issues. If it happens again after this, send your card back to warranty or get another one
mndgz said:
Hi, did some searching and I believe this topic wasnt covered anywhere else...
The thing is, sometimes when I remove memory card from the phone, some files get lost or corrupted even though no programs were running at the time...so I was wondering is there any way to remove the memory card properly, i.e. there is a menu option on the Nokia N80 'Remove memory card' which closes all running processes so that the mem. card can be removed safely..
the phone in question is a G4 Neo with 2.20.7.114 ExtROM version if thats of any use.
any help is appreciated. cheers
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noticing!gcvuvy
mndgz said:
Hi, did some searching and I believe this topic wasnt covered anywhere else...
The thing is, sometimes when I remove memory card from the phone, some files get lost or corrupted even though no programs were running at the time...so I was wondering is there any way to remove the memory card properly, i.e. there is a menu option on the Nokia N80 'Remove memory card' which closes all running processes so that the mem. card can be removed safely..
the phone in question is a G4 Neo with 2.20.7.114 ExtROM version if thats of any use.
any help is appreciated. cheers
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i have done a search and read thru some threads with similar problems, but not exactly the same.
i have the O2 xda trion with the dopod rom and have had the device since feb 07 without any significant problems up until a few days ago.
all of a sudden the camera would not capture, ie save anywhere, and then is not saving to the 2 gb sd card i have been using since day 1.it inconsistently is not saving to either site, card or internal. (i do not have the "network" choice) i use the camera just about every day and take photos for work and remove the micro sd card and place it in the sd-adapter in my pc to instantly copy and print....this has been working very well until recently.
i have tried most all of the suggestions from the threads incl., card out while device on a few times, soft reset, installed cool camera and it does not copy to the card, hitting the icon for sd card, reducing from super fine to fine on the settings, so i am left with a hard reset which i dread doing, almost an excuse to get a new device AND installing an sd card formatting/cleaning? program ??. as i am not a real techie and dont know how to do registry changes and have the patience of a spastic paranoid schizophrenic, i wonder if someone can direct to a program that might resolve this issue as i do believe it now has to do with the card itself.
other poss suggestions are encouraged, AND i did do the search and spent quite a bit of time before opening a new thread.
thanks in advance!
djsell
[email protected] said:
i have done a search and read thru some threads with similar problems, but not exactly the same.
i have the O2 xda trion with the dopod rom and have had the device since feb 07 without any significant problems up until a few days ago.
all of a sudden the camera would not capture, ie save anywhere, and then is not saving to the 2 gb sd card i have been using since day 1.it inconsistently is not saving to either site, card or internal. (i do not have the "network" choice) i use the camera just about every day and take photos for work and remove the micro sd card and place it in the sd-adapter in my pc to instantly copy and print....this has been working very well until recently.
i have tried most all of the suggestions from the threads incl., card out while device on a few times, soft reset, installed cool camera and it does not copy to the card, hitting the icon for sd card, reducing from super fine to fine on the settings, so i am left with a hard reset which i dread doing, almost an excuse to get a new device AND installing an sd card formatting/cleaning? program ??. as i am not a real techie and dont know how to do registry changes and have the patience of a spastic paranoid schizophrenic, i wonder if someone can direct to a program that might resolve this issue as i do believe it now has to do with the card itself.
other poss suggestions are encouraged, AND i did do the search and spent quite a bit of time before opening a new thread.
thanks in advance!
djsell
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Sounds like one of those infuriatingly difficult problems to solve where in the end a hard reset is the only option left. Still, some routine questions just in case:
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Installed any new software recently?
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Are you running low on main memory? - cleaned out the PIE history and temp files recently?
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Does it save pictures at low resolution?
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No other applications are running when you use the camera?
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Other applications, word say, save and read ok to SD Card?
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You do of course have full backup software installed so a hard reset is no problem???
Mike
WOW!, mike,
thats great stuff .....as if i had an appt with my trioniatrist, i feel i owe you money, but......i'm in between patients of my own but i do think you've made some excellent diagnoses and it certainly may work and will get back with you as soon as i can address those issues 1 x 1 !
thanks...djsell
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WOW!, mike,
thats great stuff .....as if i had an appt with my trioniatrist, i feel i owe you money, but......i'm in between patients of my own but i do think you've made some excellent diagnoses and it certainly may work and will get back with you as soon as i can address those issues 1 x 1 !
thanks...djsell
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LOL perhaps more of a trionologist, haven't reached the heady heights of trioniatristry yet . The above are just thoughts really, based on a speculative guess that it might be a memory issue - not so much on your SD card but on the device itself. I have noticed it likes to keep quite a chunk of memory free in order to run and process data. However, as I said above, tracking down a solution might not be worth endless ours of trying and testing. I would not be without my periodic full backups - even if I hit problems, often I won't bother looking for a solution other than just restoring the latest backup.
Mike
hello mike,
i was able to figure out my problem after i cleaned out memory from about 3 mb to 10 mb and still the problem, so i realized that after using both the inherent camera and the cool camera (which i do like better at the moment) and both did not save to the sd card and i finally got a message that there was no path to the sd card and checked to see i had made a sep. file on the card months ago called "my pictures" but it was not a subfolder under "my documents", so i created a subfolder in my documents and the path was opened.
why it worked before i dont know, but so far so good!!
thanks again and maybe people with similar problems can try this mode of therapy!
i do hope to upgrade to an "omni", imate ultimate 7150, or the kaiser in the future so we'll see if they are with stable cameras!
by the way just had a few mcewans ales for the 1st time and quite tasty!!
djsell
Agh! Good news though.
Next time someone asks, checking the file path will be on the diagnosis checklist.
Glad you enjoyed the McEwens, but don't let Hermes drive you to alcohol!!
Cheers
Mike
Yesterday I was play around with the VGA 144 resolution program and I noticed that on this resolution the contents of my microdrive were showing up really slowly in file explorer.
I uninstalled the program and things were back top normal.
Later I installed a newer version of the CAB for VGA 144 and this time the contents on the microdrive did not show up at all, as if it was empty, which in fact it was!
I do not know what caused this (I don't think it was the change of resolution) but was wondering if anybody else has had this happen?
The threads I have seen so far are that the microdrive is no longer visible as a drive or error messages when trying to access it....
edeplano said:
Yesterday I was play around with the VGA 144 resolution program and I noticed that on this resolution the contents of my microdrive were showing up really slowly in file explorer.
I uninstalled the program and things were back top normal.
Later I installed a newer version of the CAB for VGA 144 and this time the contents on the microdrive did not show up at all, as if it was empty, which in fact it was!
I do not know what caused this (I don't think it was the change of resolution) but was wondering if anybody else has had this happen?
The threads I have seen so far are that the microdrive is no longer visible as a drive or error messages when trying to access it....
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Something similar happened to me and that's why I don't trust the drive. It wasn't with a VGA program, just happened.
I have never lost the microdrive, but something similar happened to me on an SDHC 4GB card. I had been using it only to store CAB files for installed programs but one day it was just 'empty'.
I pulled out the card and hooked it up to my computer, ran scandisk on it and all of the files were there, just seemed to have lost the FAT table as they were all lost files to be recovered. I reformatted the card since I had the files backed up.
I was running VISTA at the time time of the incident and I found that I had been moving files to the card using WM Device Center and I had the SD directory open on my desktop when I undocked my phone. Seems as if it had the FAT table open and and did not like being disconnected with the directory open.
There may be something analogous to this with ActiveSync, but I have never had this happen with another device, just with my U1000. I have been closing WMDC since then and have NO PROBLEMS.
so far this has not happened to me with the microdrive, but it has happened a few times with the sd card, which left me f**ked last week as i had tomtom on it, luckily I downloaded google maps to get me home. but there has to be an answer to why this is happening.
raskell said:
I have never lost the microdrive, but something similar happened to me on an SDHC 4GB card. I had been using it only to store CAB files for installed programs but one day it was just 'empty'.
I pulled out the card and hooked it up to my computer, ran scandisk on it and all of the files were there, just seemed to have lost the FAT table as they were all lost files to be recovered. I reformatted the card since I had the files backed up.
I was running VISTA at the time time of the incident and I found that I had been moving files to the card using WM Device Center and I had the SD directory open on my desktop when I undocked my phone. Seems as if it had the FAT table open and and did not like being disconnected with the directory open.
There may be something analogous to this with ActiveSync, but I have never had this happen with another device, just with my U1000. I have been closing WMDC since then and have NO PROBLEMS.
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one of the times it happened to me was when copying files, 1 gig card is fine I dont have a 4 gig only two, you may be right about the fat, but I was using windows mobile device centre at the time.
Even though this happened to me personally...YET, I'm expecting it sooner or later. Never did get my cousins MD fixed!!
I hate this MD and not being able to trust it really defeats the object of buying this device in the first place. Looking forward to when we can eventually replace it with something else.
Surley the MD is not bigger than say the technology needed for a Full sized SD card and connections, is it? That would allow us to relatively easily upgrade our storage capacity in the future too.
Anyway, enough dreaming.
My MicroDrive wiped out too...
I was just using RescoExplorer and my x7500 stucked, I soft reseted the device and ALL files in all directories were deled, and the empty directories were there.
I used Pocket Mechanic Professional and did a scandisk and wupti all files was there again but there was about 59000 bad clusters...
Now everything is back to normal..
It happened to me twice last month both times using different s/w! (and I just start using my Advantage in July; basically this was the first time I seriously used this PDA)
The idea was nice but data storage on this MD is totally unreliable. I guess I will not be using it anymore. Even for the none vital files (e.g. music) it is not interesting seeing how much time it takes to load the MD and the ease the data disappears from the MD.
1st time I was using TomTom -on the second day of my holiday- which stopt responding. After a HTC reset TT started up and reported it could not find the Western Europe map (which I put on the MD). When I checked this map directory ALL FILES WERE GONE! Other directories appeared ok. Luckily (I thought) just for leaving on my holidays I added also the individual maps on my MD, so I switched using the Austria map, where I landed at that time. At most 2 hours later again TT froze and at inspection ALL files in the Austria directory had vaporised. Later in the evening I tried to relax from the stress driving with an "old fashioned PAPER map" and put on some music. Halfway the first number the music stopped and -you guess it right- ALL 40+ CD's were disappeared. At that time I ran Pocket mechanic 'scan disk' which reported that the FAT tables did not match (and it could not repair). Next I could not find my MD at all anymore, followed the next day by the complete HTC not being able to startup anymore after a reset (the today screen was only showing half and this part was flashing: the HTC also did not respond anymore to the h/w buttons or almost any command via the screen).
When I returned home from this first stage of my holidays (, I hard-reset the HTC after which everything returned to normal including the MD that reappeared.
After 1 week at home I was to leave for the second stage of my holidays and I prepared by putting this time all nescesary TT maps on the SD. I spend quit some hours putting some 40+ CDs again on the MD. ( I can only copy ~3 CD's at a time otherwise it aborts somewhere).
The FIRST TIME I listened to some music I started a Bowie CD and half way the first number suddenly it switched to a Stones number (no, nothing to do with 'dancing in the street'). After inspection of the MD there were already only 2 (screwed up) MP3 files left -in the root- on the complete MD!!
The MD is still in this state -and I just ran scan disk again- and appearently there is again a problem with the FAT only this time with lost clusters.
If it where not for the fact that during this 2nd trip of 4200km/2700mls over curvy B-roads TomTom gave me no troubles at all, the internal GPS worked flawless and the BlueTooth A2DP worked perfectly with my "home-made" BT helmet (for this I bought this HTC) I would have been seriously disappointed in the Advantage. As it is now I am actually quit happy with it, except for the inconvienence of not being able to use the MD.
So yes, it happened to me too: twice.
Petition for recall?
Do you guys think it's time to petition HTC for a recall of the MicroDrive? I have no idea how something like this will work but based on the feedback on the forum...there are waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many people having problems with the MicroDrive. Those that use it seriously have problems.
I myself don't have time as most of my time is being spent on the Athena Project ROM but maybe someone else can help in the matter.
What do you guys think? A massive communication effort to HTC to find out what the heck is going on here? We paid wayyyy too much money for them to think we'll be happy with what we have if there is one or two faulty parts. The one part that keeps failing us is the MicroDrive and I think it's time to get a few answers. It's our right as the consumer and get answers and the quality product that we anticipated.
I totally agree and was just trying to report my problems -including the link to this forum/thread- on the HTC site.
HTC however seems a little bit e-mail shy. Last time I checked I could not find any e-mail link at the HTC site, now I could find one but everytime when I submit my message I get a popup 'the system is experiencing some problem, please try again at a later time'.
I try again later.
scruued up
so suddenly yesterday i was just using my athena and i had this Vista Theme on Wisbar Advance running....and the device just got stuck at windows live sign-in window and the phone first just restarted but then again got stuck and the "Windows Mobile" window wich appears at the start and then wen i manually resetted it....EVERYTHING was WIPED OUT!!!...BUT everything on the device remained like the wisbar theme it asked me to install and all but on the MICRODRIVE...everything just....VANISHED!!!
I was on holiday in the u.s.a in July, and had tomtom installed (on the MD, no more room on the card), all of a sudden, it froze while driving, had to pull over and found that my usa maps had been wiped! luckily I also had igo installed with some usa maps and was able to continue my holiday without having my head stuck in a paper map, thanks for the dodgy MD HTC!
Yes, this happened to me - both the sd card and md are equally unreliable. At the moment,I install everything on my md simply because it is way way faster than the sd card. I don't use my sd card at all now,although I have two of them.
When you copy files using wm5torage, avoid starting a new copy before the one before completes. Similarly, do not use the device while copying is going on , although the system does not stop you. What I observe is that there is a higher chance of corruption when I don't observe these practice.
I used to think that md is less reliable than sd. Now I don't think that anymore. I think they are equally unreliable.
musso said:
I was on holiday in the u.s.a in July, and had tomtom installed (on the MD, no more room on the card), all of a sudden, it froze while driving, had to pull over and found that my usa maps had been wiped! luckily I also had igo installed with some usa maps and was able to continue my holiday without having my head stuck in a paper map, thanks for the dodgy MD HTC!
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Which Tomtom version are you using? do you have WM5 or WM6? What is your Rom version?
Guys, is there a way to easily reproduce the problem in MicroDrive and SD so we can pass it to HTC and hopefully get a solution?
My new Advantage is less than 24 hours old and I too have had the Microdrive come with garbage while trying to move videos files from my PC to the PDA. I have formatted it and reloaded it, so wish me luck!!
Exactly the same story here - 7501 (WM6) less than 24 hours old.
- unable to accessed until formatted
- sometimes not showing directories/files until a soft reset
- returning messages like 'disk full or write protected' when copying from desktop
The worst of it is losing a 126Mb wmv file during one of these false 'disc write protected/full' events.
There has to be a serious issue with the OS that has to be fixed.
How do we build a poll of users with this problem?
Folks,
I have a reply from a message I sent to [email protected] last week:
Hello Bart,
Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC regarding the problems you are having with your HTC Advantage device.
Bart, we regret to see that you are having problems with the micro drive in your HTC Advantage device. If you could forward us several examples of other users having the same issues, we will forward them to our product development team for resolution. Please forward me the following information for each example:
* Serial Number
* IMEI
Identity
* OS Version -
* Radio Version -
On receipt of enough examples for these issues, we will be able to prioritize the resolution of this problem.
How can we collect this information so we can provide a united front to HTC?
Do we need a moderator to post a 'sticky' message at the top of this forum?
Btw to get this info
* Serial Number
- inside the battery compartment door flap
* IMEI
- inside the battery compartment door flap
or
- Start >> Seetings >> System Tab >> Device Infomation icon >> Identity
* OS Version -
- Start >> Seetings >> System Tab >> Device Infomation icon >> Version
* Radio Version -
- Start >> Seetings >> System Tab >> Device Infomation icon >> Version
Thanks
Bart
I'd like to contribute...
Did we get anywhere with this issue with HTC? I think it's a great idea, at least for the principle of the thing, to get them working on this (even if someone else can solve the problem better and faster). We could each submit a tx, but creating the "petition" for help that they seem to want would at least get some results. My reservation would be that we would be suckered into what seems like manipulative behavior on their part. After all, they are not government and we are not lobbyists.
I'm working on fixing it myself, but why are they releasing stuff I have to fix out of the box? If we can't get them to spend thier money & time fixing this stuff, we'll keep getting crap we have to fix, right? So where do we go from here? Anywhere?
I only get flaky when I'm on 128dpi
My MD seems to work acceptibly well on either 192 or 96, it's when I shift to 128 that things start to disapear, etc.
Hmmmm. Would, perhaps, this be a result of lame drivers?
i am a ardent fan of this site and a regular visitor since i brought my htc touch hd, i am living in Australia bought the phone when i went to India last month. this is my very first windows mobile, the phone was working like a charm till the time i accidentally reset the phone by clicking clear storage. i thought it was like emptying the recycle bin in windows vista, the phone asked me to type the numbers from 1 to 4 which i did and everything changed from that time. the phone is abnormally slow and often hangs, leting me down when i need it. of late i am not able to sync the phone with the system as it is not getting recognized my sd card.ophra does not work as like most of the applications. i tried to format my 8 gb sd card which came along the phone, but the fate is still the same. will a hard reset help me?
my rom is: 1.18.707.3(23358) wwe
radio version: 1.09.25.14
i am a novice person as far as phones are concerned, i don't meddle with it
help in this regard is much appreciated.
regards,
gokul.mb
Yes, you should try a hard reset. Remember to backup any data that you have entered in the phone, hopefully you will be able to sync to do that. If I understand, you deleted the 'internal storage', am I right? Maybe some programs are storing executables, DLL files or other stuff there and all of them stopped working when you 'cleared' storage. Btw, where is that 'clear storage' option in the menu?
It's in System Settings I think.
Isn't Clear Storage a hard reset?
yeah its the one found in settings under the tab system, i think i did a hard reset by do it. thats what i found from the forums, while i was reading a few hours back. i dont know what to do now, also read it some where that installing .net 3.5 and change the settings using a reg editor, later install sd card tune up cab will improve the performance considerably. which registry editor do you suggest? thanks for your replies....
I had similar issue with my Touch HD, but it happend after i took a picture (one of many) with the camera. I did a hard reset, but that did not help. Try removing the SD card, because in my case the problem was that something had gone wrong with that picture and the phone could not read it properly and display it in the Photos and Videos section ot the TouchFlo 3D (or at least that what I think was the reason ). Anyway, that worked for me - glad if it works for you too.
P.S. Forget to mention that after deleting that picture (with SD card reader - I could not do it in the File Explorer on Touch HD) everything went back to normal.
omg i solved my problem atlast....... thanks to all who gave me suggestions about this problem. i hard reset the phone after formating my sd card. now the phone runs like a wild horse...faster than before.
Good to hear.......Now jump on that sucker and get moding......yeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaa