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jingle when sending SMS ?

Hi chaps
please read this and put me out of my pain, its really driving me up the wall now.
i want the wizard to vibrate when a text message comes in, no sound just vibrate. this onlt seems to work when 'notifications (alarms, reminders)' is also ticked, is this right? seems like one setting should affect the other ?
but how do i stop the phone from going 'jinga-alinga-jing' when i have just sent a message, i am on payandgo and it tells me my balance everytime i sent a message and i can see no setting to stop it.
even putting the phone into silent mode from the volume control will stop this jingle ITS PURE MADNESS.
anyone else found this? i can't be the only one on payandgo can i?

if you're on O2 PAYG you can call/email them and they will disable the credit notifications. This is the only solution I could find as I did not manage to turn off the actual sound, someone else perhaps?

hahahahaha
i am indeed on O2 didn't know they could turn them off.
i'm moving over to orange very soon though, if it still does it then guess orange can turn them off, cheers you have saved my sanity.
pretty odd that there is no way of stopping it in the phone though

I'm not an Payandgo but did you try in Parameters > Sounds and notifications > Notification (tab)
In the combo, you choose : "Message : New SMS"
And for this particular event, you can remove the sound and choose vibrate ...
Is that what you need ?

YES! i'm having the same stupid thing as well! My phone is a wizard badged as an O2 and i am on a O2 PAYG sim. I have CID unlocked mine and installed the K-JAM rom instead but still have the same issue when the phone is on silent.
Pulling out my hair!!

thanks for your replies guys
YvonLeFou - its not the sound to say that one has come in ie 'new sms' it happens when you send one. you send a message and O2 remind you what your balance is. dunno how this is done but it ignores EVERY attempt at stopping the xda to play a jingle. even if you put the phone on silent it still does it.
Latz - looks like Marc83 has the answer, call o2 and ask them to disable credit notifications, please let us know how you get on. i'm not bothering asking o2 as i'll be on orange soon. expect i will need to ask orange the same.
Marc83 - cheers

Did you try to deasable the notification message using the tweaks in the registry you can find somewhere on this forum ?

ive got hte same problem. Ive tried that and it still wont go away. its So So irritating :evil:

If this is their standard "SMS Sent Notification" you can suppress it by:
Edit your registry, HKCU\control panel\notifications\default\options (DWORD)
Set the value to 4. You will get a momentary Icon on your task bar (top) but I will go away on its own.

this isnt the jingle from the sms sent notification. This is the jingle after it that says "balance: £0.90" etc. It only happens on pay and go phones and it does it after calls and sms no matter what volume setting the phone is on.

I spent quite some time trying to do this and I just now figured out a way...
I used ActiveSync to explore to \windows under 'My Device' and copied notify.wav to my desktop. I then used an audio editor to make it silent and copied it back.
Now when I get the notifications it still plays the notify.wav but it is silent. You could change it to any sound you wanted.
Hope that helps someone...

jalex9 said:
I spent quite some time trying to do this and I just now figured out a way...
I used ActiveSync to explore to \windows under 'My Device' and copied notify.wav to my desktop. I then used an audio editor to make it silent and copied it back.
Now when I get the notifications it still plays the notify.wav but it is silent. You could change it to any sound you wanted.
Hope that helps someone...
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very good idea, i just wanted to point that out lol

My nodify.wav file is locked by windows... cannot edit it to make it silent. Does anyone have other ideas? It seems a registry tweak might be the best option, but I dont know which one to change in order to stop having the annoying balance notification after each call... thanks

I'm not sure what you mean by locked. When I copied the notify.wav to my windows desktop it was read-only. I had to go into the file properties and uncheck that before I could edit it. Is that the problem your having?
I used Sound Forge to edit the audio file. You could use something like Audacity that is free.
Then I just copied it from my desktop back to the same folder. It asked if I wanted to replace the file and I said yes.
Hope that helps...

I also unchecked read-only in notify.wav, but then I still cannot delete it. The read-only check dissapears when you uncheck it, but when you return to the file properties its still there. It must be protected by the OS. I also tried to modify it using a wav editor, but no luck. Of course, I can copy it on my desktop and edit it there. Its when I want to replace the original that problems occur.
Im both desperate and annoyed by that sound after a call. I also tried deleting almost every Reg key that has something to do with it, but no luck. Thank god HP has a good backup software...
Hopefuly somebody will post a workaround... thanks anyway

well, I wasn't expecting to post a work-around myself.
I went back to XP rather than Vista, and the XP explorer allowed me to change the notify.wav file. Now I have a silent file instead of the original and it works perfectly.
I guess Vista is less permissive than XP.

Interesting that Vista turned out to be the difference...
For those without access to XP, I wrote an installer cab to do the replace.
It should replace the notify.wav with a silent one then ask you to reboot the device. I tested it out on my HTC Wizard and it works. Really the only work it is doing is copying one file so it should just work but you never know...
-jalex9

What a fantastic idea, wish I had thought of that - worked like a charm, cheers buddy!

Notification Sound Changes
All I do with my notifications is find where the .wav files are located by exploring "My Mobile Device" - should be in the "Windows" folder.
Then I get the sound I want i.e. for new SMS messages I have Austin Powers saying "You got mail, baby!!"
I convert the audio format of the file I want to a 16bit, 11kHz sample rate and mono (single channel) .wav file. If it is not this format as a .wav file, it will not play. There are various free audio convertors out there that can do this resampling.
I then copy this amended sample over to the Windows folder in the mobile device, just by copying and pasting in Windows Explorer on the PC
After doing this you can look in the Sounds & Notifications > Notifications Tab. In the drop down box you will find the additional .wav files you have added.

Help removing balance message (o2)

Ive got an o2 xda mini on pay and go. When you send a txt or complete a call it pops up saying how much credit you have. It ALWAYS plays the message tone, regardless if its in silent/vibrate etc.
I HAVE done the hack to remove the msg sent item and that has worked, however i still get this second seperate notification after sending a text.
I HAVE also done done the hack to remove notifications that still doesnt work i still always get the message notification
anybody got any ideas? Thanks

You can always do a hard reset, and soft reset once your mda begins to install customizations. Then from there can manually install the cabs you need.
Most likely the balance notification was a cab customization. I don't use o2, so I wouldn't know the name of it, maybe someone else does.

Is there any way to locate and uninstall the software without doing a hard reset. Ive only just got my xda setup with all the programs/settigns etc i want.

I dont think the service credit popup messages are anything to do with the installed software because i did a hard reset and then did not install the o2 software but it still gave me the annoying message every time.

Nope, it's a "Flash SMS" (google it!). I had this problem too, the only solution I found was to put my thumb over the speaker, and clamp the thing between my legs!

No its nothing to do with the software on the phone. it's a network operation so only O2 can turn it off.
Apparently if you ring them up they can turn it off no problem. See here
http://www.expansys.com/ft.aspx?i=129336&thread=1123

I spent quite some time trying to figure out how to at least turn off the sound and I just now figured out a way...
I used ActiveSync to explore to \windows under 'My Device' and copied notify.wav to my desktop. I then used an audio editor to make it silent and copied it back.
Now when I get the notifications it still plays the notify.wav but it is silent. You could change it to any sound you wanted but at least it doesn't make the notify.wav even with the phone on mute.
Hope that helps someone...

messaging contacts in SIM

hey everyone
i'm new to this forum, have read around and found alot of useful info about the tytn.
but there are two issues i havent seen anyone talk about on this or may be its just me.
first, i cant seem to find an option to text message contacts that are saved in my SIM. Can you not message contacts in your SIM? or am i doing something wrong here?
Secondly, how do i set my ringtone as the alarm tone as well? because the sounds for alarm are too short and i need someting that will play for a while.
can anyone help me out with these ? any help will be appreciated. Thank You in advance

For the alarm tone, you need to copy a .wav file to the WINDOWS folder of you device. It should then show up in the drop down menu on the alarm page.
Unfortunately, you can only use .wav files and not .mp3. I've also noticed that files larger than 30kb wont play which means the tones would be short.

oh ok.. i tried to put .mp3 file in the windows because i noticed the alarm tones are there but i did not see it when i was setting the alarm so i guess it should be .wav and no more than 30kb i guess?
thanx alot.. going to try that
is there a way set different tones for receiving a text message and different tone for receiving a call? i did not see an option for that
also about text messaging.. i cant see an option of texting a contact if they're saved in my sim.. is there a way around it?
thank you for your help

anyone....?

tos_84 said:
hey everyone
i'm new to this forum, have read around and found alot of useful info about the tytn.
but there are two issues i havent seen anyone talk about on this or may be its just me.
first, i cant seem to find an option to text message contacts that are saved in my SIM. Can you not message contacts in your SIM? or am i doing something wrong here?
Secondly, how do i set my ringtone as the alarm tone as well? because the sounds for alarm are too short and i need someting that will play for a while.
can anyone help me out with these ? any help will be appreciated. Thank You in advance
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when you open contacts and select a sim contact it asks you do either to make a call or send a text

koayt47 said:
For the alarm tone, you need to copy a .wav file to the WINDOWS folder of you device. It should then show up in the drop down menu on the alarm page.
Unfortunately, you can only use .wav files and not .mp3. I've also noticed that files larger than 30kb wont play which means the tones would be short.
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thanx for the info.. i put a .wav file into windows folder and the size was 798kb and it worked
figured out everythin except messaging sim contacts..
i go in contacts.. there are no contacts so i go into menu .. sim manager.. and go into menu .. no option of text messaging.. i even keep the scroll wheel pressed on a contact and only options are to edit, delete or call.. etc but no text messaging.. so i'm guessing the contacts have to saved on the phone !?

You're not the only one, I had the same Issue with my SIM contacts and text messaging also
Spent HOURS on the phone arguing with the iMate Support Helpdesk guys who all use the same stock-standard response "Have you soft-reset? Try a hard reset? I know you say you've done it but do it now while Im on the phone? Didnt work? I dont know then?"
Problem no longer exists with WM6, I also made a thread on a local forum:
http://pressf1.co.nz/showthread.php?t=86250
Unfortunately I dont think they're about to start patching WM5 for us, so I figured it was time to go back to WM6 again (Using Schaps 4.30 this time), and so far so good... pics up my SIM contacts fine in messagins now!

thats a releif .. thanx!!
so i guess i'l b upgrading to a different rom soon enough

TF3D Voicemail Message

Hello!
I've purchased a Touch HD a couple of weeks ago.
But I have a problem with the notification on TF3D homescreen saying there's one new voicemail message.
When I call voicemail, listen to the message, delete it, the notification does not go away.
I've searched the forums, and the solution to call myself and leave a message and then delete it does not fix the problem.
Also a soft reset does not make it dissappear.
Is there a register hack to remove the message?
Or something else I can do to make it go away?
H.

this is a bug - mine is doing the same thing.

And there's nothing we can do to solve it?
H.

Not sure if this will help but I had the same problem with an old wm device. The trick was to listen to the message, delete it/save it then wait a couple of seconds before hanging up.

similar problems with my old hermes and the problem was to do with sms_providers.dll file.
I had to replace this file.
Do a search in hermes directory

I think this may be due to the phone not being correctly setup for the network. I've had this on other WM handsets after flashing the ROM - and sorted the problem by installing the correct settings for the network, otherwise I'd get these kind of problems and sometimes strange SMSs with control characters in them.
Try going to "Connection Setup" in Settings -> Connections and resetting to the correct network & country.
Hope that helps.

dsm52 said:
I think this may be due to the phone not being correctly setup for the network. I've had this on other WM handsets after flashing the ROM - and sorted the problem by installing the correct settings for the network, otherwise I'd get these kind of problems and sometimes strange SMSs with control characters in them.
Try going to "Connection Setup" in Settings -> Connections and resetting to the correct network & country.
Hope that helps.
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lol - of course its set up for the correct network. I made sure it was one of the first things I did!

Well, tried the solution with the sms_providers.dll change, but no luck.
Actually I don't think that was going to work anyway because I don't get weird text messages saying new voicemail.
That works just fine. The only problem I have is that it displays the 1 one voicemail message in between the call info and the calendar on my home screen. And what I try, it just won't go away.
I've also tried to reset the connection setting, but that didn't help also.
I'm going nuts about this!
Is no one else having this issue?
For your info, it's a dutch official rom version.
H.

Also when I leave myself 2 voicemails it still displays 1 new voicemail message.
It appears to be stuck.
Is there a registry setting for tf3d to remove this or something??
H.

Ok,
I've done a hard reset and the notification is gone now.
Hopefully it's not coming back anymore!
Thankz for all your help!
H.

h.vanleeuwen said:
Ok,
I've done a hard reset and the notification is gone now.
Hopefully it's not coming back anymore!
Thankz for all your help!
H.
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Has the notification come back? I have the same problem with my new WWE official ROM.
Thanks dhatw.

dhatw said:
Has the notification come back? I have the same problem with my new WWE official ROM.
Thanks dhatw.
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Okay, I just sent myself a voicemail and when I retreived it I deleted it and waited until the voice said deleted and then I pushed * to exit and now the notification is gone from my screen. I don't know if I had to do all of that but it worked anyways.

Registry Fix to Clear Voicemail Indicator
Using any registry editor go to the following keys
HKEY_CURRENT_USER/System/State/Messages/vmail/Line1/Unread
HKEY_CURRENT_USER/System/State/Messages/vmail/Line2/Unread
Display values and change Count value back to zero.
Worked like a charm!
HTC TyTN (a.k.a HERMES)
Windows Mobile 6.1 (CRC's ROM)

Help - Absolute newbie and done 'something'!

I've had my HTC about 3 weeks and it's the first smartphone I've had so my question may be a bit stupid to you experts
I'm on pay monthly )2 if that makes a difference?
I've had problems with text messages randomly getting stuck in outbox and not being sent.
I've searched on the internet and found HTC have issued a fix LEO08007-07 so I downloaded it from the HTC site and have installed it.
It appears the TODAY app with all the weather , pictures, music shortcuts has now disappeared and I'm getting a blank front screen. The settings menu has changed and I cant access the HTC Message app at all
What have I done wrong and how can I get it back.
Sorry - just found Today shortcut (moved to a different part of screen but it's not working
I also forgot to add ROM 1.43 something
Sorry if it's straightforward. Cheers guys

If you've not done too many customisations I'd suggest a hard reset. To do this, turn the unit off, hold down both vol up and vol down and turn it back on and follow the screen instructions. I'd recommend doing this with both SD card and SIM card removed to be on the safe side

Thanks for that help. It's got me back to the start
Is there anything else 'easy' I can do to stop the texts getting stuck in my outbox?
Is there anything els you'd recommend for a newbie to do.
The ROM is 1.48.405.2 (71294) WWE
I hope you guys don't mind helping. As it's my first win mob I want to try and make the most of it but I'm not really tech minded

Its look like you have a bad settings for O2 (data,messages,..)
Go to Start\O2 and click Get Settings.
It should help. If no try this(only for SMS and Voice Mail )
Start\Settings\Personal\Phone\Services choose Voice Mail and Text Messages than press Get Settings.
It should show you these numbers if not fill it
Text massages service center: +447802000332
Voice Mail: 901
Press OK
All done
Hope it help

Thats great thanks.
Hope thats solved my problems