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Frustrating Boot Lockup

I am encountering the same frustrating lockup at the windows boot screen using either the O2 Rom or the Dec T-Mobile Rom. Any number of attempts to soft reset or remove battery and reset are having no effect and only a hard reset gets the phone working again.
The problem arises after I have installed third party software. All the software installed fine and is working 100% ok. If I then remove the battery ie to change the sim card. Put back the battery and switch on all I get is the Blue Windows Mobile screen and WM5 will not load.
Anyone encountered the same problem and know how to resolve it?
All I can think of is that some piece of software is causing the problem. Maybe trial and error ie install one programme then soft reset to test if WM5 boots properly will identify if a particular piece of software is causing the boot lockup.

I had the same problem on a MDA vario, have you got pocket plus installed?
if so its still good to use, but the safe mode option is not WM5 compliant, once installed, just edit the spb options and untick safe mode checkbox, now on soft reset it wont hang

Spot on!! Last night by process of elimination I discovered that the culprit was indeed SPB Pocket Plus.
Without that prog installed everything is fine and dandy. Install it and lock up occurs on soft re-boot.
I used the latest version of Pocket Plus as well which is supposed to be WM5 compliant.

thanks for that information, i got my kjam yesterday and installed pocket plus last night and i haven't reset it yet and when i was reading this i was thinking... "let me reset my device and see if it hangs" but i decided not to and go ahead and untick the safe mode option hahaha.

Solution/reason of hangup on WM screen
I have the same problem. See my "solution" here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1122263

stillo said:
I have the same problem. See my "solution" here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1122263
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LOL !!!
You are answering to a post almost 2 years old,they must have solved the problem or upgraded to a new Rom or even changed their phones.Plz check the date and thread before posting.
There's no fun invoking old posts just for the sake of posting,lol
PLZ !!! READ MY WORDS..... " DON'T SPAM "

ameo freeze every day serveral times

Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks

tvrman said:
Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks
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Hi tvrman.
For starters, install Sprite backup (on one of the CD's you got with the Ameo). This will eradicate the need for a full install after a hard reset in the future!
I suggest you do a full hard reset anyway then install Sprite Backup utility.
Only put back your essential apps one by one with 1/2 a days gap between each installation and test the turn off turn on function.
Be sure to use the supplied X-Button application to ensure you properly clode apps down after you're finished with them....or use Wisbar Advance 2, which will do it for you....except for Active Sync (this will always remain active unless shut down manually in memory menu).
I have not once suffered the problem you have in over a months use of the Ameo....might be a faulty unit or a buggy ROM. What version ROM are you using?
Anyway, if all goes well over the next 3 days, do a full backup and save a copy to your storage card or micro drive and be sure to copy a copy over to your PC...that should future peoof you having to do a full install again in the future. And be sure only to back up, if you have no problems with the device and the problems you mentioned earlier. Otherwise you will allways restore the bugs in the device after a hard reset.
Hope this helps. keep us updated on how you get on.

Mackaby007
thanks for you professional answer, i was not aware that spd backup
was on the cd which was delivered at the ameo.
Well yesterday i found out that one of the programs (profimail)
which i'm using serveral times a day for my mail, that this is the problem
I found out that yesterday i didn't use profimail but the built in mail the
whole day and the ameo did not freeze at all the whole day
tried to turn it off an on the whole day and no problems at all,
yesterday late i start profimail and check serveral mails, i close profimail
and turn the device off, later turn it on and a black screen it would not
turn on
After soft reset everthing works.
So i will check today again without using profimail and see what's happends
again.
i'll let you know....

hi,
I had the same problem.
My solution was to format the mini-sd card.
So what i did:
1. copied all data on de minisd in a cardreader to a directory on pc
2. Formatted (not quick) the minisd
3. Copied all data back to the minisd.

All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
Anyone else find this? Shame as it is the program I like the most
Robert

tvrman said:
Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks
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Have you got a password to lock your phone try removing that see if it still locks , i was having the same issue

Mrsums said:
All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
Anyone else find this? Shame as it is the program I like the most
Robert
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No such issue here! WA2 runs like a dream on my Ameo...even better than it did on my Hermes or Prophet! I'm using the 2.8.0.2 version of WA2 without WAD.

WA2 + WAD
Yes, in my case it was also WA2. I made my own skin and all work fine. But in time I got more lock-ups. So I decided to reinstall everything. Then things went wrong. That day I have installed everything 6 times. Every time I had lock-ups when I pushed the power button and activated it again. But after disabeling WA I had no troubles anymore. The last production and beta version have the same problems. At this point I have to advice not to use WA2. I did not examine every feature of WA2. So there can be one feature that caused the problem. I made my own iPhone landscape skin and I was very pleased. Could somebody try this skin to see if it freezes their device?

skin
iPhone skin ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Software/iPhone.rar
I use a lot of apps. I also use the following plugins on WAD:
SPB Diary
Profiles for Windows Mobile
Windows Life Messenger

QAN said:
Yes, in my case it was also WA2. I made my own skin and all work fine. But in time I got more lock-ups. So I decided to reinstall everything. Then things went wrong. That day I have installed everything 6 times. Every time I had lock-ups when I pushed the power button and activated it again. But after disabeling WA I had no troubles anymore. The last production and beta version have the same problems. At this point I have to advice not to use WA2. I did not examine every feature of WA2. So there can be one feature that caused the problem. I made my own iPhone landscape skin and I was very pleased. Could somebody try this skin to see if it freezes their device?
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I'll give the skin a test run in an hour, but I refuse to use plug-ins again. They have always caused me problems, but WA2 never has. What version were you running?

Tried the i-phone skin and have experienced no issues whatsoever.
Maybe the Problem is WAD and your plug-ins.

WAD keep on giving problems like this...it's a sin for such an interesting application...here it is because I gave up to use it.

Mrsums said:
All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
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I did some searching and found some suggestions it might be the skin I was using. I changed the skin and no more freezing.
Robert

trayap.exe
Since I removed the trayap.exe from the init part of the registry I did not have any freezing anymore. I will try WA2 again to see if this solves my problem.
By the way, I am using the latest beta's of WA2 and WAD

hi all
i find that if i use the off button to turn off the backlight whilst media player is running it jams the machine, requiring a reboot. i know that i can usethe light button on the keyboard but i sometimes forget that media player is running (ie. paused).

I have the same freezing problem now after a few weeks of usage.
The device was running very nicely but now, without installing anything further or adding anything to the device, it freezes randomly.
It likes to freeze when the backlight goes off, while I play MP3 files or have a phone conversation using bluetooth.
In the past 4 days I have softreset the device no less than 81 times.
I suspect the Microdrive is to blame. Is it sensitive to movement?
I will remove all my software and other files from the microdrive and see if things improve.
In the mean time, has anyone else experienced random and frequent freezing?
Oh, I have the Dopod U1000 branded device with the latest firmware.

ok, I had it with this. 16 more soft resets within 4 hours.
I hard reset the device. So far I see no random freezing, but I didn't install anything extra yet except ozVGA and VJBigPhone. And both of them on the internal memory, so nothing on the microdrive.

S200 Hanging every now and then

I have Qtek S200 for 3-4 months.
First I had wm5 2.20.7.34. The phone used to hang sometimes. Usualy if the wifi was on and I suspend it it will hand when I wake it up. The screen stays lit and no button/touchscreen works. The power button also wont work so I had to do SR.
I thought upgrading to wm6 will fix the problem and I tried pda mobiz 20.b3 and b4.
The phone still will hang sometimes. Finlay I installed Prophet Touch v6. Its great rom but it also hangs and sometimes its 2 times in a day..
There is no way to predict when it will happen but usualy its more often when I use Internet gprs or wifi. Most often when I use the wifi( I guess
I have upgraded to the latest Radio ROM but I cant see any diference.
So my question is, How often u guys get hangs on your prophets?
Is this normal?
Is there a way to make it work with no hangs at all or this is the way it is?

Im not using overclocking and the phone usually hangs when its left alone not while I use it.
In wm5 it usually used to hang right after I wake it from suspend while in wm6 I just cant wake it, it stays dark.

Well, when I had the original i-mate ROM I almost never needed to do an SR, unless I was really messing with it.
Then I tried PDAmobiz b4 and I got the phenomenon you describe:
Some times I would turn on the device and notice the clock was an hour or two behind and the device would not respond. Basically it hanged quietly and I didn't even know.
After suffering this for a week I changed the ROM to my current PDAViet 4.0.0.0.6 Touch and it seems fine so far (better then the original).
Perhaps a different ROM, maybe a WM 5 not 6 will work for you.
Also you should see what kind of programs are running in background on your device. Maybe one of them is the problem.

Actually I had the problem u described with the original wm5 ROM not with the wm6 roms.
The thing is that the original rom had many other problems and for this reason I dont want to go back to it.
For example I could connect with gprs without problems but after disconnecting I was unable to connect again. The device was saying "The answering modem has disconnected" or one of 2-3 other messages like that I was in a phone session and so on. The only solution was to restart the phone app...
The phone dialer was terribly slow. When pressing the dialpad buttons it was taking about a second for the phone to respond
Also I noticed that the same problem u described when the device freezes just after wakeup will generally happen if the wifi was left on.
If I switched it off I had almost no freezes.. but u know Ive got this phone to use its network capabilities and it looks like the network part was most buggy
All this is about the original wm5 qtek rom.
With wm6 I only have this case when the phone dont want to wake up. It just stays dark when I press the power button.
It will also freeze somethimes when I work but not very often..
Currently I use Prophet Touch v6 by gullum
I few months ago I have read that windows has some delay bringing up the sd card online after suspend and that this may cause problems if some program tries to read the Storage card before its online. For that reason there was suggestion to install all system and most used programs in the internal storage.
Now I have noticed that SPB Insight was installed on the storage card and I use its today plugin so I reinstalled it to the internal storage to see if this will help.

I have the same problem
Please help me to find out why my S200 hanging and hanging and hanging

i have got same problem in my prophet...my model is orange m600............is there anybody to help....

My apache (WM6) freezes after a soft reset...almost every time!! -HTC home plugin??

It seems to be kind of a hit-and-miss situation.... with more misses than hits....
I'm using Helmis AKU3.5 "final"?? rom that he did (before the "service pack") and it works amazingly... except for the fact that i'm scared sh!tless to perform a soft reset if anything locks up.
The freeze occurs after the HTC boot screen switches to the Windows Mobile loading screen (that green one)...
I have a feeling that it has something to do with the HTC home screen which has been mentioned on a forum or 2 on the net but im sick of searching.... which i love to use coz of the eye candy and has links to things i don't use... and the audio manager which i use flawlessly (sort of) with my moto-s9 BT stereo headphones with a few regedits...
But more to the point when i soft reset it freezes. And no matter how many soft resets i try.... and i have tried many (10+) soft resets during a meeting... and leaving it to load (which I have left for over 2 hours one time) to no avail... in the end i have to hard reset and restore all my settings/software.
Please let me know of any fixes to this as i would like to use the home plugin.
I have so far soft reset three times in succession during this posting with the HTC home today screen plugin disabled and have had no freezing.
Software version:
Radio: 1.30.00
Windows Mobile: 3.50.00 (Helmi's one that u dont need kitchening software for)
Apache telecom NZ

yeah figured it out, updated to helmi's wm6.1 using the kitchening program u guys rock!!!!

Mogul stopped working randomly - locks up HELP PLEASE!

for some reason, my mogul stopped working properly. When I turn it on\soft reset, it boots but nothing connects. The network coverage shows as no connection (I am at home where it is usually at 100%), the data connection shows up as not connected and when I plug it to my computer, the usb does nothing (it is not even detected!!!!).
When I open my contacts, it opens up but remains blank (what????), when I open the start menu, it freezes. Most of my buttons stopped working.
I have not changed anything in the past month as far as settings of software.
wtf! anyone, please help!

hate to state the obvious, but have you tried a soft reset? If thats not working did you try a hard reset?
Did you install/change anything recently?

soft reset a bazillion times.... I don't really want to hard reset because I want to keep all my files so I am trying to avoid the hard reset.
so I just updtaed my radio rom hoping that was the problem, but unfortunately it is still doing the same.
*double post*

julienrl said:
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If this is current:
HTC P4000 (mogul\titan\ppc6800)
Telus Mobility
SPL olipro 2.40
Radio: 3.42.3
DCD rom 3.23
I would suggest the latest DCD ROM and make sure you run the latest carrier cab when you are done. The only thing that usually locks mine up is being out of memory. What apps are you running all the time?

I did a hard reset
My carrier cab and radio rom were up to date. My ram was not the issue, I run with anywhere from 17-22mb free at all times.
I still have no idea what caused it after 3 months of flawless operation, i just hope it does not happen again.

julienrl said:
I did a hard reset
My carrier cab and radio rom were up to date. My ram was not the issue, I run with anywhere from 17-22mb free at all times.
I still have no idea what caused it after 3 months of flawless operation, i just hope it does not happen again.
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If you did the hard reset I would upgrade to 3.2.6 now. 3.3.x may still be a while off and you can at least get a great stable ROM now.

Mine just started locking up when using SMS . This is after 4 months of flawless operation, now everytime I txt someone it locks up the phone I can't get out of sms or do anything until I pull the battery. Any ideas what might be causing this . Nothing has been changed on my phone in 2 months and this just started a week ago.