hi every1,
i kno theres some very clever guys on this forum as many of my past problems i have been able 2 find fixes for. I hav searched the web but can't find much info on my latest problem and the info i hav found hasnt been very useful.
The problem i have is that a couple of days ago i put my tytn on charge when i returned to hopefully find it fully charged it had totally run out of battery and wouldn't turn on. with a bit of trial and error i managed 2 get it to turn on for a bit when plugged in - looked at the power meter and it said 0%. my first thought was that it must be a battery fault so i bought a new battery but i still can't charge my phone. I've tried it plugged into the mains and also through usb connection to my laptop and both have the same effect.
the problem has really puzzled me because i am able to transfer files through usb but cannot charge the phone. when i plug it in i initially get a red light but that soon turns to flashing amber lights and does not charge - i can turn it on with the new battery but it only has 50% left. i have already resorted to a hard reset and this did not fix my problem.
i would be greatful for any help or comments on my problem as i think its rather unique due to the lack of info on it.
i have an O2 XDA Trion (tytn) and it is running WM6 which i flashed myself but it is the official opperator update.
personally i feel this is a hardware issue, if anyone knows where i can get it repaired then that would be a great help too, i may try to take it back to O2 but i dont think they will be interested as i hav had it for about a year and i am now on orange but using the tytn.
cant wait 2 hear from u, thanks in advance for any help/suggestions.
Matt.
Some things to try:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live...._c=BlogPart&partqs=cat=Hermes+Charging+Issues
NB. The rocking the battery on and off the contacts mentioned in the above link, is more of a TyTn II trick but it may work with the Hermes.
Assuming one of the gold battery connector pins onthe Hermes is not disconnected then what you are trying to do with these tricks (to put it crudely) is to reset the charging circuit that seems to have a habit of getting "stuck". Incidentally this is a problem that seems to affect many phones by different manufacturers.
Mike
A perhaps first solution that has worked for me in the past. While it may seem elementary... perhaps the pins on your usb port are dirty. When I had my palm, I pretty much had to clean the bottom pins with a needle almost every time I wanted to sync, since they got a little grimey and didnt make a good connection. Try taking out the battery, and very lightly taking a needle and seeing if there is dirt or grime on the connections. Then blow on the port really hard (even better, use a can of compressed air) and see if that solves it.
Can't hurt to try
-Jotek
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thanks for the suggestion. hav tried these several times and had no joy, my phone does register a battery because the red light goes away when i put the battery in but there is no amber charge light just an amber light that flashes every 2-3 secs. do you kno anything else i could try or do u kno somewhere that may be able 2 fix it if its a hardware issue? thanks. matt.
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i will try this as i wont do any harm but i cant see it helping much as i am able to transfer files accross usb no problem so i dont think theres any problem with the connection. thanks for the suggestion though. wish i knew more about how the phone works lol.
all ok now
just to let people know, i wasn't able to find anyway of getting it to charge again so have taken it back to O2 and was supprised to find it was still under manufacturers warranty so thay have sent it off for repair free of charge can take up to 2 weeks they said - what's the bets that its longer than that
Thanks for the previous suggestions
You mean your PC can read your phone,but your phone's battery cannot be charged somehow. Even the power is left 50 percent,you still cannot start your phone? It is strange. Have you try use the charger connect to your phone? Maybe there is something wrong whit a component about the pover switch.
Related
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=8348&highlight=always+charging
I have a same problem before. But im update my device rom to 1.72.00 (Imate Rom) (Before my device have a 1.72.00 T-Mobile Rom) that problem is gone until my charge going %15. After that not blinkin Orange light is coming (thats normal for charge is about 10-15% but) also Setting > Power say charging and My XDA think its charging. Im not plug in my device anywhere (Cradle, Power Charge, USB Sync) but its always thing charging and charge is faster dropping to zero.
I dont understand anythig about that. After that i plug in my USB sync in my notebook and recharge it. After my battery full (100%) im unplug the sync cable from my device and nothing change. Its still say charging
After this i decided (i dont know why i think about that. please dont ask ) i plug in USB sync cable and plug out on my PC (Cable still plugged in on my XDA 2) and device gone normal. And unplug sync cable from my device. Orange light is gone and Settings > Power say Battery Mode.
Is there anythig wrong that. I think this is totaly software error bu i dont know.
Thank you for your advice.
My case was different. No matter what I did, the device ALWAYS thought it was in charging mode. I sent it to the repair centre twice and the device gone back to the problem again after a while. They said the connector pin has been in short circuit and so it thought it was charging. They also accused me of damaging it. I asked them why it would be so when I use it normally, the staff said 'Machine is like that, nobody can gurantee'. I was angry and sent several rude mails to O2. Upon some negotiation, they changed a completely brand new model to me and the problem did not happen anymore. I have used this new one for several months in exactly the same way I did with the old one and nothing untoward happen. That proved the old one was not damaged by me!
Sorry for being long-winded and yet could not solve your problem.
Anyone can help?
My device still have a that problem.
Im looking lights now and its some time say charging and some times not.
Please help
Thank you
always charging
i still have same problem :!:
anyone? help?
omg, this is exactly what my problem is. My XDAII always thinks that it is charging even though it is not plugged to the charger nor the usb sync cradle. And the amber LED light is steadily lighted like when you are charging, battery life of the XDA has dramatically gone down, it wont last me 3 hours or so and yet it is still on standby mode. I had reflashed it with the latest ROm available, 2.06WWE i think, and still after that, after the cold reboot, the problem was still there. Anyone has a better solution to that? Im planning on returning my unit for servicing if the problem cant be solved.
i have same problem , help me now
This will be less likely to happen when using usb cable rather than cradle. If you get a magifying glass you may be able to see the short on the pins and possibly nudge it back into position with a very thin sewing needle or similar.
up
i have exactly this problem too (
I´ve the same problem since yesterday with my T-Mobile MDA², it´s Rom Version: 1.72.01GER (6 months in use without problems), Rom Date 03/16/04, Radio 1.17.00, Protocol 1337.28, ExtRom 1.72.170
The yellow light is always on and the batterie runs very fast out of energy (1-2 hours) and it´s always says charging and think it´s connected to AC power...
any fix to this problem?
or what happen now to those who have this problem?
I have this problems too!!! How to fix it?
Having not use my exec for a bout a month I now find it will not start or take a charge (battery has 3.8v ) but it will not power up ,it is still in warranty BUT I have changed the rom ,so don’t know if o2 will repair it
If I use the wall charger a LED flashes on for about 1 second ,if I plug in to usb lead on pc (with battery removed) red led comes on any ideas appreciated
towinguk said:
Having not use my exec for a bout a month I now find it will not start or take a charge (battery has 3.8v ) but it will not power up ,it is still in warranty BUT I have changed the rom ,so don’t know if o2 will repair it
If I use the wall charger a LED flashes on for about 1 second ,if I plug in to usb lead on pc (with battery removed) red led comes on any ideas appreciated
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Problem indeed.... Firstly, I wish I could offer some constructive solutions, but afraid not.... it does sound like a worn battery, and maybe worth trying (or borrowing) another one to flash?
I take it as you refer to it as an 'Exec' that it is the O2 branded one? If it is, from my experience with the O2 technical support, they really don't have a clue. I would assume that they would send an exec straight to HTC for testing. It's a complete last resort, but if you were to tell them that your unit was dead and they were to take it in, they wouldn't be able to solve the problem before they sent it back to HTC. This is of course after you have clarified it's not just a dead battery cell.
Best of luck with the thread and hoping someone a bit more experienced can help.
So, let me get this straight, your universal does not turn on (and by turn on I mean that you see the familiar wm5 screen with your apps, etc.), no matter what have you done, and the only way to have the charging led on is by connecting it to USB port with the battery removed?
If this is the case, you might have a dead internal battery charging/power supply circuit, i have repaired some old Ipaqs with this failure, most of them failed due to a defective battery, easily recognized by overheating when the unit was placed in charge, usually the overheating increased slowly in time (months usually).
I don't want to be misunderstood, but all these devices have a way of turning of the LCD backlight, a long pressure on the on button does this, it can restores with the same long pressure, see if this is not your case.
If you have some electrical problem with your PDA you might take it to repair or you could try to do it yourself -if you're able to do it obviously-.
Anyway, try to get yourself another battery (you might ask for it to someone else with a uni), put it on and see.
I'm also assuming that you have tried to hard reset your device.
good luck
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So, let me get this straight, your universal does not turn on (and by turn on I mean that you see the familiar wm5 screen with your apps, etc.), no matter what have you done, and the only way to have the charging led on is by connecting it to USB port with the battery remo....
good luck
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Look maybe this will give you some hope. Yesterday I took my Htc Typhon (smartphone) after a long time, the battery was die. I tried to charge via usb, and nothings happened, then I tried to use a usb charger and nothing happened neither. Finally I charged the battery alone on an universal battery charger and after 30 minutes my phone was alive again.
Hope it will help you!
Felipe
kecido said:
So, let me get this straight, your universal does not turn on (and by turn on I mean that you see the familiar wm5 screen with your apps, etc.), no matter what have you done, and the only way to have the charging led on is by connecting it to USB port with the battery removed?
If this is the case, you might have a dead internal battery charging/power supply circuit, i have repaired some old Ipaqs with this failure, most of them failed due to a defective battery, easily recognized by overheating when the unit was placed in charge, usually the overheating increased slowly in time (months usually).
I don't want to be misunderstood, but all these devices have a way of turning of the LCD backlight, a long pressure on the on button does this, it can restores with the same long pressure, see if this is not your case.
If you have some electrical problem with your PDA you might take it to repair or you could try to do it yourself -if you're able to do it obviously-.
Anyway, try to get yourself another battery (you might ask for it to someone else with a uni), put it on and see.
I'm also assuming that you have tried to hard reset your device.
good luck
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thanks for all the help
1 it will not turn or power ,no led no screen
2 battery dose get hot when charging
3 screen has not been dimmed
its back at o2 shop now we will see if they repair it and ill report back !!!!!!!!!
Grilloman said:
Look maybe this will give you some hope. Yesterday I took my Htc Typhon (smartphone) after a long time, the battery was die. I tried to charge via usb, and nothings happened, then I tried to use a usb charger and nothing happened neither. Finally I charged the battery alone on an universal battery charger and after 30 minutes my phone was alive again.
Hope it will help you!
Felipe
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hi thanks for the reply i have had the same on a m600 ,would not charge from usb or car kit but did start with mains charger
i have tryed hard reset but it will not do that either
battery is stuck at 3.7v even after trying to discharge it with a small bulb
thanks
John...
This is something I've had happen in the past.
Try taking the battery out, and put it into a ziplock back, and place it in the freezer for a few hours. I know, I know, it sounds ridiculous. But sometimes, just sometimes, it will reactivate the cells, and you'll be able to charge it after that.
well done o2 uk
well as said before took my phone back to the O2 shop and sent it off to the service centre. The report came back that the main board US .not only did i get a new exec but But a new boxed one and a full set of all original parts !!
i had this problem when i first got my SPV m5000..i took it to the orange shop...(the people where nice) they kept it for few testing and said...
battary was faulty...so they gave me a new battery XD
ok i have never done this stuff before, i work on computers/cars not phones. however i just purchased an 8125 of ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160146080544&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=006)
could you guys help me try and figure out why id doesnt charge? and also if you guys could point me in the right direction as far as overclocking, programs, and such. please remember that i dont due this stuff so bare with me.
thanks in advance
Caps
no idea as to the charging issue... if you plug it in and the green blinking light changes to a steady orange, it should be charging. If you plug it into a USB port connected to your computer it charges super slow, a wall charger is better. It won't charge? or it won't hold a charge? Perhaps you need a new battery
As for the overclocking and good programs and everything, you might want to spend a few hours in your spare time just reading past threads, and using Search! Actually I'm not sure if search works, but google does... go to google and use search term like...
site:http://forum.xda-developers.com wizard overclock
the site: part is essential, it means google will only search for results on that website.
(the overclocking program is omapclock or something but it's better to read the posts to discover more about it)
well i have been reading stuff all over the place. the best one that i can find seems to be this one:
http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/843374-1.html
but i wanted some input from people who have actually used some of these.
capsisking said:
ok i have never done this stuff before, i work on computers/cars not phones. however i just purchased an 8125 of ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160146080544&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=006)
could you guys help me try and figure out why id doesnt charge? and also if you guys could point me in the right direction as far as overclocking, programs, and such. please remember that i dont due this stuff so bare with me.
thanks in advance
Caps
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Up for bidding a a Cingular AT&T 8125 cell phone pda pocket pc. Physical condition of this phone is perfect, with no scratches or any wear. Phone has a problem charging, when phone is plugged in the status LED blinks orange and the battery icon shows charging, but does not actually charge. USB connection to computer works fine but does not charge. If you put a charged battery in the phone it works fine. Other than that, the phone has no issues or problems and all of the features work fine. Auction includes: Phone, stylus, charger, wired stereo headphones, usb cable, quick start guide and software cd-rom. Bidding will start at $1.00 with no reserve. Shipping will be $12.00 and paypal is preferred. Any questions, feel free to ask. Thanks for looking.
My guess is it would be easier to by an external battery charger and whip the battery out to charge it something like this i guess?
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-cable-CHARG...ryZ15034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
As for overclocking try searching for an app called battery status. Can't remember which version is best for wizard overclocking but should be easy enough to find.
PJ
thanks for the info man, i bought this;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120152590410&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=002
cause i can charge the battery on the back while i sync the phone, but (and remember this is my first phone like this) i was told that if i take out the battery, or it dies that i will lose all my memory on the phone.
I'm thinking your mini usb connector on the phone is faulty. Does it sync?
he says it does, i dont know yet the phone gets here in the morning if usps doesnt suck today... so it might be here wednesday
I can safely say i know sod all about usb connections but the one on my old wizard started playing up (wouldn't charge and wouldn't sync).
By pure coincidence after leaving it in a drawer with about 40% battery for a couple of weeks i thought i'd see about fixing it got it out and it just worked (from usb and mains charger) so i didnt need to tinker with it at all
Good luck
anyone else?
anyone? any advise at all?
capsisking said:
ok i have never done this stuff before, i work on computers/cars not phones. however i just purchased an 8125 of ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160146080544&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=006)
could you guys help me try and figure out why id doesnt charge? and also if you guys could point me in the right direction as far as overclocking, programs, and such. please remember that i dont due this stuff so bare with me.
thanks in advance
Caps
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Are you talking about the battery not charging when you are at home? If so, it's possible you could have the wrong charger. You can find this out by charging the battery from the USB cable to a PC. I've attached the new version of battery status for the overclocking and other options. I would suggest you search first in the future for any other issues that may arise. Search Forum
8125
2.25.11.1
capsisking said:
thanks for the info man, i bought this;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120152590410&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=002
cause i can charge the battery on the back while i sync the phone, but (and remember this is my first phone like this) i was told that if i take out the battery, or it dies that i will lose all my memory on the phone.
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That's "horse hockey". You'll lose only data that has not already been saved in memory. When you hard re-set the device is when all data will be lost if it's not backed up on a computer, and not by removing or your battery being drained....
Hi guys.
Well, a month or two back i updated my imate kjam to WM6 and absolutely love it. Haven't had a single problem up until now.
Last week i did a soft reset on the phone (after installing phonealarm) and it stuck on the wm6 logo boot screen. tried a number of resets, removing the battery etc. finally had to do a hard reset and reinstall everything.
last night a similar thing happened. the phone had turned itself off in my pocket. so i tried a soft reset and got no luck. tried to do a hard reset, got to the screen where you confirm the reset but decided i'd try a few more things before committing to losing everything again.
now i can't do a thing with it. can't even get to the hard reset menu.
i've tried leaving the battery out overnight, tried resetting whilst it's plugged into the charger, everything i can think of. isn't recognised when plugged into the usb port either.
i'm at a total loss. any help / tips would be greatly appreciated, i'd hate to lose everything on my pda, as i used this thing constantly
one weird thing is that when plugged into the charger, i don't see a LED light up to say it's charging??
mkerr said:
Hi guys.
Well, a month or two back i updated my imate kjam to WM6 and absolutely love it. Haven't had a single problem up until now.
Last week i did a soft reset on the phone (after installing phonealarm) and it stuck on the wm6 logo boot screen. tried a number of resets, removing the battery etc. finally had to do a hard reset and reinstall everything.
last night a similar thing happened. the phone had turned itself off in my pocket. so i tried a soft reset and got no luck. tried to do a hard reset, got to the screen where you confirm the reset but decided i'd try a few more things before committing to losing everything again.
now i can't do a thing with it. can't even get to the hard reset menu.
i've tried leaving the battery out overnight, tried resetting whilst it's plugged into the charger, everything i can think of. isn't recognised when plugged into the usb port either.
i'm at a total loss. any help / tips would be greatly appreciated, i'd hate to lose everything on my pda, as i used this thing constantly
one weird thing is that when plugged into the charger, i don't see a LED light up to say it's charging??
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Is it possible that your battery may be flat?
Can you get into bootloader mode?
can't get into bootloader.
if my battery was flat, would the charging LED light up when it was plugged in?
thanks for the reply.
afer doing some more reading, it looks like it might just well be a dead battery.
apparently, wizard / kjam batteries are notorious for requiring the wall charger to get them going again once they're flat. something about needing 1000ma.
i just checked my charger that came with the unit (ebay), and noticed it only put out 850ma. going to grab my brother's jasjam charger and hope to hell it's 5v 1000ma.
fingers crossed.
i had a similar problem, and following a solution on ere somewhere i fixed it, this is done at ur own risk, im nt responsible. unplug the charger from the wall, still plugged into fone(this is to empty charger of any charge thats there) thn unplug fone and dip the end of the lead in water(yes sounds weird i no...) then make sure theres nt an excess on the end and plug into wizard adn thn the wall, should be red light and then after a few mins orange - charging hope it works
hehe
just letting everyone know it's now working again
didn't need to do any water dipping.
just plugged in brother's 5v 1000ma charger and it's now charging
OMG !! Good Goooooooshhhh
evilkern said:
i had a similar problem, and following a solution on ere somewhere i fixed it, this is done at ur own risk, im nt responsible. unplug the charger from the wall, still plugged into fone(this is to empty charger of any charge thats there) thn unplug fone and dip the end of the lead in water(yes sounds weird i no...) then make sure theres nt an excess on the end and plug into wizard adn thn the wall, should be red light and then after a few mins orange - charging hope it works
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hi
hope ur serious about ur method,well sry to say....... never heard of such a method before, I'm not making any fun of u or plz don't take me wrong , I don't mean any harm.
I just can't believe it cud happen like that,after all water dip will certainly short circuit and burn it.
well, just for my knowledge, have u ever tried this urself ?
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hi
hope ur serious about ur method,well sry to say....... never heard of such a method before, I'm not making any fun of u or plz don't take me wrong , I don't mean any harm.
I just can't believe it cud happen like that,after all water dip will certainly short circuit and burn it.
well, just for my knowledge, have u ever tried this urself ?
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I thought exactly the same when i read it first, but since my phone wasnt turning on, gave it a go and it worked! As i say sounds odd but apparently its somthing to do with the circuits controlling the charge, if theres not enough power then obviously they wont work, so this way does...sounds odd but works! I just had a quick search and cant find the original thread, it was an alternative to the 9 volt battery solution
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I thought exactly the same when i read it first, but since my phone wasnt turning on, gave it a go and it worked! As i say sounds odd but apparently its something to do with the circuits controlling the charge, if theres not enough power then obviously they wont work, so this way does...sounds odd but works! I just had a quick search and cant find the original thread, it was an alternative to the 9 volt battery solution
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well than I must say u got a brave heart,If had that choice ,i wud have thought 10 times and still said No
As u said that u had gone for it and did and were successful,do believe u now. In that case its very valuable information thanks
So your saying to dip the end of the charger plug into water?? It sounds like really all you would be doing is cleaning off the terminals of dust or debris that could be impeding a connection of some sort.
I have the HTC Tytn and it will not turn on. It was sitting on my desk one day with more than 50% charge and when I picked it up to make a phone call I noticed it was turned off. I tryed hitting the power button to turn it back on, but nothing happened. I have removed the battery and tried just about everything I could think of. Even when I plug the unit into the wall charger there are no indicator lights. I read on some threads that my battery may not have enough charge to begin charging (I know that makes little sense, but it is true) so I took the battery out and tested the voltage. It rated at 4.17 Volts which is higher then the 3.7 rating on the battery. This means the "jumpstart" or extra "kick" that would normally be suggested would not work for me since I have too much charge. I have begun discharging my battery and it is down to 3.99 Volts, but I don't really know if this would help anything.
If anyone has had a similar problem and has a solution I would really like to try it, I am willing to try anything at this point. I know I am new to this forum and this is my first post, but I discovered this site through Google and found it to be full of many interesting posts. If any of these solutions work I would be happy to make a donation to this site. I appreciate any and all help.
-TOM
Hi Flashrapid,
Have you tried a soft or hard reset? If the phone comes back on with either of these solutions then let me know as there is more to be done to stop this happening again in the future.
Feel free to PM me directly if it helps.
WB
Same problem here. I know this is an old thread, but Im having the same exact issue. Completly stock factory ROM very few 3rd party add ons never dropped.Phone was actually a 3 month old refurb that I had replaced another 8525 with under warantee. No charging lights or anything. Tried soft reset,not sure how to hard reset with the phone dead. Anyway if someone has any insight to this issue it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Hard reset as you normally would - 2 softkeys and stylus reset.
Does the red LED come on when you connect to the power without the battery?
The Hermes should, if there is no hardware problems, show a red light to indicate no battery when you plug it in without one.
Cheers...