MMS do you use it - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Ok I'm makeing rom for Prophet, Kaiser and Touch and prob will make for more devices.
Therefore I ask here insted of doing a poll in every forum?
on some devices the memorry is not that much and ArcsoftMMS is taking up alot of space and can be installed by cab for users that realy need it.
so the question is how often do you send MMS

I never use MMS..i guess my vote wont count..caz u are not building for Hima right ??

ather90 said:
I never use MMS..i guess my vote wont count..caz u are not building for Hima right ??
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Not yet anyway but if I find a cheep one I would buy it

gullum said:
Ok I'm makeing rom for Prophet, Kaiser and Touch and prob will make for more devices.
Therefore I ask here insted of doing a poll in every forum?
on some devices the memorry is not that much and ArcsoftMMS is taking up alot of space and can be installed by cab for users that realy need it.
so the question is how often do you send MMS
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i agree, its better to remove this from the ROM. if somebody really uses MMS, he/she can use a cab to install it.

I rarely use it, don't find the need to send "pix" to everyone, especially when I've got e-mail at my finger tips!

Gullum i think remove it.If i will send pix i can use E-MAil.

i use it every once in a while. there are times in which i use it everyday but most of the time i would say on average weekly

Considering that the Elfin has Wifi and I can pretty much attach any pic I want and email it to anyone using my Elfin, I don't see the need for MMS.
Of course there are those purists who will say, "oh, but then you need to find a wifi hotspot...I can send MMS anytime"...
I've never been in a situation where I've had to send a picture immediately. If I do find myself in that spot, then I'll use MMS.

I dont HAVE to send MMS messages at all but it is the multi-functionallity of my Kaiser I love. Basically I like to have all options available. I hate it when I`m in a position not being able to do something because I didnt install it because of ram/storage space. Its like having alot of money but no stores to use´em in.
I probably send 50 mms messages a year (Vacations, Fishing, A picture of my daughter to her mother, and so on..) but not once a week.
When there is a situation worth it I use MMS. Being in that situation without that option would probably make me crazy. Of course I can send an email but I would like the pic to show up in the recievers phone at once. Eighter way: most Norwegian mobile phone users dont have email on their phones (dont use it) ........... yet. For pictures and sound, we use MMS.
Off topic:
Viva Scandinavia! I´m visiting Iceland this summer

I agree with the above - its one of those options you hardly use, but its very annoying for example someone who has a device without email option wants to send a picture and you dont have the capabilities, i probably have sent 1 this year and received 2 or 3

yeah, i've never used it, but i guess it's handy if you do have it. tbh, if i had a rom with no mms, i wouldn't notice it wasn't there because i don't use it at all! mms is expensive!
if you are making new rom, i'd say leave it out & add link for the cab, if somebody wants it, can dload it.

look like so far that MMS should be a cab option and not in the rom.
I personaly have only sent MMS to test if it works in my roms. I've had differant phones over the years and I hardly ever sent or received any MMS during these years.
So my desission is MMS wan't be in my future roms but I will have a link to a cab to go with my roms...
Thanks for all the votes and please keep voting as this might be of intrest to other cooks too.

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SMS Flash sender for earnin free credit

Hi! does anyone knows where I can find an applications that send a large amount of SMS preferably flash SMS (the one that appear and delete them self)? I need it because I got free SMS on T-Mobile and I have WePay on H3G so each SMS I receive I earn 2p. So if I send 500 SMS I make £10. I painfully done it manually but and it is working!!! any help? thank you
Any one knows??? I'm still looking thanks
I would be surprised if anyone here is going to help you find a way to spam SMS messages for cash.
Hi, not sure if this will help, but take a look at this.
http://www.shop.avanquest.com/usa/prod.php?pid=2486&tr1=&tr3=www.google.com.au
i use to use the motorola version on my v3. It was good at spamming, not intentionally ofcourse. After sending 1 sms I left my phone attached to the computer. upon returning to the comp i found that it had sent the sms over and over and over and so forth.
to Doom Tints:
My aim it's not spamming but gain some free credit!!! what's wrong with that? I'm not breaking the law nether the network rules... please read here http://www.three.co.uk/news/h3gnews...llcid=1019745742912&cid=1137675159353&index=1
I got free messages that I never use on my T-Mobile phone. This could also be useful to others in this community too... Don't you think?
ky07 said:
Hi, not sure if this will help, but take a look at this.
http://www.shop.avanquest.com/usa/prod.php?pid=2486&tr1=&tr3=www.google.com.au
i use to use the motorola version on my v3. It was good at spamming, not intentionally ofcourse. After sending 1 sms I left my phone attached to the computer. upon returning to the comp i found that it had sent the sms over and over and over and so forth.
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Thank you for that but I Don't like motorola phones and their applications! I have found a freeware for nokia symbian phones that would do the job... but before I buy one I would like to use my wizard or my hermes to do the job...

Text From Desktop - Testing the water

Hello All.
I am currently in the process of developing an application to text mobiles via an activesync connected device.
So no subscriptions, no pay per text etc etc.. Simply uses your phone\tarrif to send messages..
I was considering releasing it on here, and wondered what (if any) would the interest be? Would anyone use it?
It's in the early dev stages at the moment... But I am willing to consider BETA testers.
Would you be willing?
Cheers
MikeSel^
yes i would love to help beta your application. let me know when its ready! cheers!
Sounds good, I had a program to do this with my ancient Nokia.
If you can make it provider independent I would love to test it
I would also love to help beta your application. let me know when its ready! Thanks
Would you be able to make it read text's also, so you could use it like an email client - would be easier for me to send texts whilst at work like this.
I would be willing to test.
I would use this daily as i send alot of text messages!
this would be great, my phone is hooked up to activesync the whole time at work and im constantly sending txts.
I can send texts from MS Outlook 2k7, no activesync or phone hookup needed- but I think you have to have Sprint as a carrier and a hotmail account.
Thanks for your replies..
I will add them all to my development plans, and post up once the beta is ready to test.
This will be completely independant from any carriers as it will simply use your phones carrier to send\receive messages!
If you have any feature requests feel free to reply with them now.
Thanks
MikeSel^ said:
If you have any feature requests feel free to reply with them now.
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Ability to browse inbox/sent items if you can please - so no interaction with the phone is needed.
Also, mark messgaes read/unread and delete.
They are all i would probably use. Cheers for the effort man!
Read/Unread... Good idea!!
**Runs off to implement**
KEEP UM COMING!
I use my mobile from desktop by using http://www.jeyo.com/index.asp its not free but works well for me.
I'm very interested in this...
Will you run a client application on the device, or are you directly accessing the data? (RAPI maybe?)
Well the idea stems from Jeyo, I've used it for ages.. But I feel there are parts missing from it. An I like to be able to customize the software to how I want to use it.
I am currently using RAPI with a 'server\client' type thing going on. However I am not sure this will be how it ends up. Depends on how much I can squeese from RAPI.
Looking forward to this mate, should be a good little project for you.
I know what u mean with customizing software that ur using.
MikeSel^ said:
KEEP UM COMING!
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OK, how about supporting command line so that i can send txt msgs using my '.net programs'.
Even better would be to expose a sort of API through a dll file.
I would love that.
Ok, Well my proof of concept exe may help you there.. The exe simply reads from a text file. First line phone number, next line message..
So I have an app that creates the text message copies it to the device and then starts the exe. Which sends the exe,,
So if you want to use this, make the text file in the root of the device and run the exe.
I will build in a similar function to the final version.
Thanks
Mike
cool im looking forward to this. it would be really usefull.
im up for this too....will it work with Vista?
mDesktop is wicked for txtin from tour desktop, if you have ur diamond connected the txts pop up on you monitor 2

Advice and help HD2

Hi i recieved my HD2 yesterday from Vodafone UK after having the TP2, havnt realy played with phones much in past and have a few issues i hope you can help with
1. Is there a way to get into the all programe files? i can only do this when i want to add a shot cut.
2. Have tried to set up my hotmail live account to get emails pushed to me as they did on TP2 but am not getting them.
3. SMS, when i reply to a text it takes 30seconds or longer to bring up the screen.
4. I realy want to use some of the apps listed on here but have no idea which registry and file editor to use or where to find them?
I hope some one can help me i now have the first phone i want to customise and learn what it can do.
Thanks

maximum of 6 sms

hi all,
i had an amount of text i had to sent to someone in a sms.
but i couldn't send more than 6 sms in one message. if you know what i mean, sorry for my english.
now, i looked in the reg, try to edit that, but i couldn't find it.
some help? because with the Touch HD it was possible up to 10 sms in one message. maybe more.
thnx in advance
so still no answers?
its been 4 hours, at least give people a chance
The longest sms I have ever written was 3 SMS long, so I can't help you with that. But it seems that phones have a limit here, some can't connect more then 3, other can connect up to 10. Guess you have found one of the limitations on the HD2.
i dont write it, i copy and paste text, would have no thumbs left i guess if i would type the whole thing
but there is no reg fix for it? that is what i want. i cant work like this.
6 SMS are not SMS anymore
it's a mail
Never seen this but i Haven't done a so long SMS
Ya'll dont understand
My father cant recieve email at this phone.
But I can, so i recieve his mail, as a mail, and i forward it as a text message.
Really, it works
Well it used to work with TOUCH HD, but it wont with the HD2.
we understand you but nobody can answer your question because nobody seems to write such a long sms.
I can only say that I think it was the SE K700i could only connect up to 3 sms.
No solution for messages > 6 SMSs, but now that we know what you actually want it for, have you tried looking for a better solution, that seems a really backwards things to be doing all the time.
There are loads of email to sms gateways around, many free. HAve you tried one of those? Small selection: http://www.cellular.co.za/email_to_sms_gateways.htm
mr_Ray said:
No solution for messages > 6 SMSs, but now that we know what you actually want it for, have you tried looking for a better solution, that seems a really backwards things to be doing all the time.
There are loads of email to sms gateways around, many free. HAve you tried one of those? Small selection: http://www.cellular.co.za/email_to_sms_gateways.htm
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thnx for the solution, but the selection you gave, is just forwarding the subject.
and what i need is, the whole message to be send.
but i guess i have send more than one long message, two messages to get the job done.
too bad i could't find anything in the reg tho.
thnx anyway.
Well it looks like you've found out that you'll just need to split the email up and send 2 x 6 sms messages.
Although your topic did put a smile on my face. sms = Short Messaging Service... I somehow don't think it applies anymore...
has anyone found a solution to this limitation yet?
I'd like to write more than 6 sms in a row.
nitrate said:
has anyone found a solution to this limitation yet?
I'd like to write more than 6 sms in a row.
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try a MMS? Probably cheaper as well.
maybe you should ask htc support
I would be interested in these feature to!
With my N95 I have reached 9 SMS in one. It would be great to achive that in HD2. If we can tweak the max. recipient for SMS why cant we tweak the max. SMS chain?
Somebody?
i thought he meant to send the same sms to more than 6 people, it is a stupidly low amount you can send to people
?!?!?
yeah this is bad problem i've noticed too
because i want to send more sms to my girlfriend but htc say NO
tc too bad
mrturq said:
hi all,
i had an amount of text i had to sent to someone in a sms.
but i couldn't send more than 6 sms in one message. if you know what i mean, sorry for my english.
now, i looked in the reg, try to edit that, but i couldn't find it.
some help? because with the Touch HD it was possible up to 10 sms in one message. maybe more.
thnx in advance
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Don't let the sms limitation bother you. I suspect you rarely write/copy paste such long message so. So for that once in a lifetime sms text message (what the hell are you sending) send it in 2 pieces.
i meant, that there is a limitation of max 6 SMS in a row. i wanna know if this limitation can be set higher for ex. 10 SMS. i didn't know that there is a limitation to the max. of recipients. didn't anyone find a solution to both limitations yet?
gadgetmaster07 said:
try a MMS? Probably cheaper as well.
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Definately agree

Guys, who REALLY solved problem with SMS???

I very, very sad....
I can't view list of SMS
I can't answer to SMS without 5-10sec timeout
I can't use default interface for SMS
Its terrible.
If you ready to answer me about this with thread when swith to default mode, you must to know that I've tried this and I lost MMS.
I can't use only SMS without MMS.....
Plz, help. Who sovle this problem, help.....
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+1 it's to sad. I've had the phone for 3 weeks now, and i'm waiting on HTC to fix this terrible issue (this and the alarm issue..)
i still have to use Nokia N86 as my primary phone, because like you, i want both MMS and SMS. HTC please??
Guys,
If this issue is really of concern to you do the following:
- write to HTC so they know that there is still a problem out there for some users.
- implement this fix here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584696 (see the last post f you want to solve the MMS issue).
WB
Same here!!
What I am doing now as a workaround is using PowerSMS (http://download.cnet.com/PowerSMS/3000-10440_4-10920088.html).
It allows you to make a full backup (among others) of your SMS (inbox and sent items) and restore them anytime with the option to delete them after backing up.
Regarding the amount of use you can backup SMS you don't need anymore. It's really quick.
I'm doing this once/twice in a week and the sms app is responding. According to the amount of sms you send/receive you can screw it up and down;-)
I receive round about 10 sms each day and send ~10 sms pro day.
But as I said. It's not really a solution but a little apsirin for my headache!
Cheers,
LEE
P.S. beside all these, this powerSMS is a really nice app (e.g schedule SMS ) .
Theoretically you could also use MyPhone to sync up with your online account and then sync back to device if you want to backup and flash a new rom.
BLAST3RR said:
Theoretically you could also use MyPhone to sync up with your online account and then sync back to device if you want to backup and flash a new rom.
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I use MyPhone on a daily basis (it automatically backs up everything except my storage card at 4am). It also allows you to archive text messages online, and you can then delete them from your online store and it automatically deletes them from your phone during the next sync. Doing this, I never have problems with my SMS or MMS, as I keep the number of messages down. I've got over 2000 messages archived on MyPhone (accessible via the web interface), and about 100 on my phone at the moment. Once there's a 100% fix in place, I can restore the archive and they will get put back on my phone automatically.
If any of you are having problems, have you done what wacky.banana suggested? That thread seems to have resolved the issue for the majority of people. Okay it's not ideal, but until HTC fix this then we have to make do with what we have.
I dont understand why you told about Backup SMS? I have not problem with backup.... I have problem with SMS messaging.
As i wrote above, I can't get normal communication by the SMS.
Henry_Lee said:
I dont understand why you told about Backup SMS? I have not problem with backup.... I have problem with SMS messaging.
As i wrote above, I can't get normal communication by the SMS.
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Henry_Lee,
What JohnCMolyneaux is trying to tell you is that your problem is probably being caused by the HTC SMS application not being able to cope with too many texts on your phone. Its a well known problem and produces the symptoms you have (search for SMS problem on XDA and you will find lots of threads on this).
What he was trying to say was that if you backup your texts online then delete all of them off the phone but the bare essentials then you stand a better chance of getting the HTC SMS app to work.
An even better solution is the one I set out above.
There's no more on offer here I'm afraid. It's either one of the 2 solutions above or you live with it.
WB
I have only 10-20 SMS on my phone and get problem even with 1-5 SMS.
I already wrote to HTC support service but I think someone solve problem....
I never had any problem .. I know it's not being helpful, but just so you know.
now that hspl & sspl is out with several cooked ROMs, is there any ROM that solves this issue? or will there be any ? becuz this is the only issue anoying me right now, and i kind of don't see why to flash ROMs only becuz of their skin :S
I have two major issues with this phone, 1. some sms messages doesen't get sent, they're stuck in the outbox. 2. the alarm clock isn't reliable at all.
Sendt an e-mail to HTC and got this answer: (i did include in the e-mail the fact that i have installed the hotfix)
Dear HTC Customer
HTC is aware of this now, and working on a solution. Thank you for your patience
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now that hspl & sspl is out with several cooked ROMs, is there any ROM that solves this issue? or will there be any ? becuz this is the only issue anoying me right now, and i kind of don't see why to flash ROMs only becuz of their skin :S
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Yes, I waiting for normal ROM. But now i dont see any famouse ROM Developers like BePe, just some young staff....
And nobody say that his ROM is fix the SMS problem. Just "added all last software".... Its not good way for ROM crwation.
Henry_Lee said:
But now i dont see any famouse ROM Developers like BePe, just some young staff....
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Never heard of Miri then?
Henry_Lee said:
Yes, I waiting for normal ROM. But now i dont see any famouse ROM Developers like BePe, just some young staff....
And nobody say that his ROM is fix the SMS problem. Just "added all last software".... Its not good way for ROM crwation.
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Well, this will not easily be solved by a simple rom fix.... It's a fundamental error in the sense 2.5 msging. The alternatives aren't perfect either (there is a sense 2.1 workaround which has some bugs as well as the 'disable sense' option which isn't all that for some).
Afaik custom roms usually are stripped, updated, modified and tweaked and no core fixes which are the resposibility of HTC.
Henry_Lee,
I found a solution for my SMS problem, which was quite similar to yours I think:
- not able to send (new) or answer messages
- not able to see message history
- not able to go to 'more' for more options
First of all I wrote an email to HTC as well, but they didn't seem to understand my problem or care about it. They answered a hotfix
would be available soon, but that was a hotfix to solve the other SMS problem where messages didn't get sent immediately etc..
However, once this was released I downloaded it and installed it onto my HD2, result: wasted my time (as I expected really...).
Because HTC didn't respond to my next messages anymore (therefore I assume they don't really care) I started to try a couple of things
myself:
1. Made a backup using SBP Backup software excluding a backup of the registry in System Data
2. Performed a hard reset
3. Installed ROM upgrade (in my case it was Netherlands 1.48.404.2)
4. Installed SMS Function Update
5. Re-installed most of the files in the backup in ROM Upgrade Mode, apart from System Data (use Customize Restore)
Result: problem(s) solved!
SMS works like a charm again, as it did when I just bought the phone.
Just disappointed in the way the HTC customer service desk works (or doesn't work...). Still, it's not just HTC's CS, Nokia excels in their
stupidity, one of the reasons I got a HTC phone this time. Let's hope I won't have to contact any of them again soon...
Hope this helps!
Brgds,
Paul
Polvito said:
Result: problem(s) solved!
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How long has the problem been solved? I found this problem after 3 weeks with my device. A hard reset (or equally a ROM flash) would surely cause the equivalent. You may see the problem reappear, as I did after a week, after the 1.48 "upgrade".
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How long has the problem been solved?
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The SMS function has been up and running for about 3 weeks now. And like I mentioned earlier I have also upgraded the ROM version, no problems since.
Many messages have been sent and received meanwhile so at the moment I'm confident the problem has been solved properly. If not I will let y'all know!
Brgds,
Paul
I do sympathize with those having SMS issues. Have you all consider possibility is hardware issue as you also notice there are guys in the forum saying they do not have such issues. I am one of them. I have been using the HD2 for 38 days already. On day one I restore about 800 sms into my phone. There was NO lag and the SMS were all displayed within 10+ secs ( one time lag to display ). Subsequent no more such lag as was instant display when I access it
SMS stuck in outbox only one time ( few minutes ) - I discounted it off, as I just reach another country
daily I send/recieve about 20-30 SMS : till today I NEVER encountered SMS stuck in outbox. SMS was also immediately displayed in PEOPLE tab ( found many users complain very slow to load ). I only face this issue few days ago on the cooked rom based on Leo 2.0 build 28*** ; I change back to rom based on build 2188## - no more such issue
Till today I NEVER even bother to install the SMS hotfix - see no need of it
johncmolyneux said:
Never heard of Miri then?
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Heard, but I will wait normal SPL and Bepe.
When I had HTC Cruise I tried many ROMs and Miri's too, but only Bepe to cook ROM like my taste.
Looks like HSPL is ready. isnt?

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