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Battery question

for those who have it how long does the battery last with a normal use?(calls,sms and internet)Thank you in advance

No exact figure but I can easily go a day without charging and that's using BT carkit for over 1 hour. About 10 calls - 30 mins total and about 10 SMS.
Sometimes have wifi on also in the evenening to use Agile Messenger.
Gav.

Well the other day I web browsed for 10 minutes over UMTS, watched a TV show for 30 minutes, video called for 30 minutes, played games for 30 minutes and at the end of the day I still had 50% battery left.

Thats great!thank you!

PPCNUT said:
Well the other day I web browsed for 10 minutes over UMTS, watched a TV show for 30 minutes, video called for 30 minutes, played games for 30 minutes and at the end of the day I still had 50% battery left.
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Whoa, I can't agree that battery life is good because it depends which model you have and what software you use with it. I have a week old Cingular 8525 with Goodlink in a UMTS area and I get only 14 hours of battery life with low-moderate use of email alone. I turn it on at 6:45am each morning and power is down to 10-20% by 7-8pm and I've barely used the phone. Not great battery life compared to my 8125, which never died, even with heavy voice and Goodlink email usage.
I haven't traveled with my new 8525 yet but when I use it with heavy calling, I'm sure it wont get more than 12 hours, tops. I just bought a second battery because of this. I know battery life with Goodlink on the 8525 is a known issue, and is one of the reasons Cingular delayed its release, but it's REALLY BAD. I have a feeling Cingular is going to be getting more than a few 8525 returns because of poor battery life. If you use Goodlink on the 8525 you 100% need a second battery using the stock ROM.

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Whoa, I can't agree that battery life is good because it depends which model you have and what software you use with it. I have a week old Cingular 8525 with Goodlink in a UMTS area and I get only 14 hours of battery life with low-moderate use of email alone. I turn it on at 6:45am each morning and power is down to 10-20% by 7-8pm and I've barely used the phone. Not great battery life compared to my 8125, which never died, even with heavy voice and Goodlink email usage.
I haven't traveled with my new 8525 yet but when I use it with heavy calling, I'm sure it wont get more than 12 hours, tops. I just bought a second battery because of this. I know battery life with Goodlink on the 8525 is a known issue, and is one of the reasons Cingular delayed its release, but it's REALLY BAD. I have a feeling Cingular is going to be getting more than a few 8525 returns because of poor battery life. If you use Goodlink on the 8525 you 100% need a second battery using the stock ROM.
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i can concur that my 8525 has horrible battery life, i take mine off the charger around 9am, i dont really make calls, but do use pushmail, and some internet usage, mostly text and email, however mine is usually in need of a charge by 9pm when my low battery alert is coming on.. this is mostly in a UMTS area. My 8125 had far better battery life than this... oh the price we pay for speed

Exactly! That's why I bought an extra battery!
Love the 8525 speed, hate the battery life. I thought Goodlink was the problem, but it sounds like it just adds fuel to the bad battery problem.
If/when an updated rom from cingular comes out, I hope battery life will be the primary fix...

I think its the UMTS thats killing it.. i work in a UMTS area and thats where i see my biggest drain, when i am at home in a Edge area my drain is not nearly as huge, but still a bit more excessive than my 8125

shogunmark said:
I think its the UMTS thats killing it.. i work in a UMTS area and thats where i see my biggest drain, when i am at home in a Edge area my drain is not nearly as huge, but still a bit more excessive than my 8125
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Just my 2 cents: I too believe that searching for/acquiring/holding a UMTS signal might be the cause for such rapid decline in battery power. However, to be fair I must state that 1) I do not live in a UMTS area, but have read similar posts elsewhere 2) I'm a total WM5 newbie(came from a Treo 650 and Moto Razr 3)Am looking forward to travelling to a UMTS area(Texas for me, I live in Oklahoma) to find out if it's all true. Speed/battery drain, etc.
However: I must add, that just this morning. My battery went down to 30% after 3 days usage. No push email/Good, etc. Heavy text messaging, some browsing, and even one phone call that lasted 59 minutes, over speaker phone. Not to mention the other calls, an occasional game of solitaire or bubble breaker. This possible issue is probably why Cingular is looking to release a larger battery in the future, but for me(right now) mine is ok for where I live and what I use it for.

i use my hermes in tokyo umts area and have connection always on for my push mail. i receive around 60 emails, a bit of occasional web browsing and less than 20 minutes making/receiving calls a day. i only turn on wifi and bluetooth when i use them but that's not everyday. i tend to agree that the stock battery life is not good enough as it will go down to like 30% in about 12 hours in my case.
i know that umts and connection always on are draining the battery but that's how i want to use it. instead of carrying a spare battery, i decided to purchase Mugen's 3000mAh battery and have started using it from this morning. it's really good as it still shows 80% left even after using it for over 10 hours already since i tooked it off the charger this morning.

harryk1372 said:
i use my hermes in tokyo umts area and have connection always on for my push mail. i receive around 60 emails, a bit of occasional web browsing and less than 20 minutes making/receiving calls a day. i only turn on wifi and bluetooth when i use them but that's not everyday. i tend to agree that the stock battery life is not good enough as it will go down to like 30% in about 12 hours in my case.
i know that umts and connection always on are draining the battery but that's how i want to use it. instead of carrying a spare battery, i decided to purchase Mugen's 3000mAh battery and have started using it from this morning. it's really good as it still shows 80% left even after using it for over 10 hours already since i tooked it off the charger this morning.
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Hey! Are they available for sale now? Are they in stock? Can you please advise of the website that you used to purchase this battery from? I'm assuming that it comes with the back phone cover, correct? Thanks in advance.

balld said:
Hey! Are they available for sale now? Are they in stock? Can you please advise of the website that you used to purchase this battery from? I'm assuming that it comes with the back phone cover, correct? Thanks in advance.
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yup, but it's only available from a japanese online store at the moment.
http://pocketgames.jp/
I don't believe they will ship to overseas though. just send them a note to confirm. it comes with the back phone cover if you mean it by the replacement battery cover. check it out your self at the site.

I'm only getting 8-10 hours on my TyTN. I'm going to be taking it back!

harryk1372 said:
i use my hermes in tokyo umts area and have connection always on for my push mail. i receive around 60 emails, a bit of occasional web browsing and less than 20 minutes making/receiving calls a day. i only turn on wifi and bluetooth when i use them but that's not everyday. i tend to agree that the stock battery life is not good enough as it will go down to like 30% in about 12 hours in my case.
i know that umts and connection always on are draining the battery but that's how i want to use it. instead of carrying a spare battery, i decided to purchase Mugen's 3000mAh battery and have started using it from this morning. it's really good as it still shows 80% left even after using it for over 10 hours already since i tooked it off the charger this morning.
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Hi Harry- could you post a link to a site to purchase the Mugen 3000mAh battery.
I was searching around and found a 1500mAh battery on Seidioonline (link below). I think I read somewhere (on this site) that advertised power and actual power are 2 very different things, but am encouraged that you are getting 10 hours and are still at 80%!
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=333

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Hi Harry- could you post a link to a site to purchase the Mugen 3000mAh battery.
I was searching around and found a 1500mAh battery on Seidioonline (link below). I think I read somewhere (on this site) that advertised power and actual power are 2 very different things, but am encouraged that you are getting 10 hours and are still at 80%!
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=333
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i'm still at 60% after running it for 25 hours without charging. i'll have to fully discharge it 3 times at least before achieving the stated capacity so i'll have to leave it uncharged for another day. what i'm seeing is definitely more than what i expected.
the link to the site from where i purchased it is pasted in my post above.

mbn said:
Hi Harry- could you post a link to a site to purchase the Mugen 3000mAh battery.
I was searching around and found a 1500mAh battery on Seidioonline (link below). I think I read somewhere (on this site) that advertised power and actual power are 2 very different things, but am encouraged that you are getting 10 hours and are still at 80%!
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=333
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That 1500 mah battery at Seidio Online seems wonderful, but I couldn't find any references or review that comment on the following:
- If it is compatible with the Hermes (8525/TyTn/etc.)
- If it truly provide 11% more talk/standby time
- If charging it with original Hermes charger will damage the phone in anyway or just simply taking longer to charge.
If any of the above is OK, I'd buy it in a heartbeat and make the original 1360 MAH battery my 2nd battery.

lanwarrior said:
That 1500 mah battery at Seidio Online seems wonderful, but I couldn't find any references or review that comment on the following:
- If it is compatible with the Hermes (8525/TyTn/etc.)
- If it truly provide 11% more talk/standby time
- If charging it with original Hermes charger will damage the phone in anyway or just simply taking longer to charge.
If any of the above is OK, I'd buy it in a heartbeat and make the original 1360 MAH battery my 2nd battery.
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it is compatible with hermes so you don't have to worry about its compatibility. i don't believe it will damage it with the original hermes charger as i have used it for sometime.
with that said, don't expect any significant difference as it has only 150mah advantage and i couldn't even recognize the difference. i don't think it is worth spending the money unless you just want to get a spare battery but just the stock battery is way cheaper for a spare. i recommend all to go for the 3000mah one from mugen if you need longer battery life.

so this weekend i am off work and live in a non 3G area.. and all i can say is what a difference there is in battery consumption.. my phone has been off the charger for almost 6 hours and have had moderate usage and i only just recently hit 90%.. now if i was working today i would have already been at the 50-60% range... For my device i can say that 3G kills my battery life... actually i think my battery life in an "edge only" area is very comparable if not better than my 8125.. but in a 3g area i would get better battery life if i just shorted out the contacts on my battery (newbs that was joke, *DO NOT* short out the contacts on your battery)

I have the Seidio battery. It fits but not as well as the original. The cover bows up slightly when it's installed. Performance is slightly better than the original.

Average business use, couple of hours of calls , some web browsing, push email on, about a day and a half with standard battery.
HTC644 Vario II

Crappy battery life on ATT 8525

I have a slight beef about my 8525. Sure, it's a great phone with a lot of features, but that only goes so far when the battery life is terrible. I came from a RAZR so maybe I am expecting too much, but I can start the day with 70% battery life and take a couple pictures and browse the Internet for a few minutes (under 10) and end up with 40% battery life by the end of the day. I'm not keeping Bluetooth, WiFi or any Cingular connection open and I am leaving the phone in standby. It seems like anytime I do anything, the battery life goes down 10%. The only software I have installed is Google Maps mobile. Is this normal or am I expection too much out of this thing?
I have done the registry edits for better battery life and conditioned the battery properly when I got it. Will a different radio version help (I currently have 1.40.30.00 on WM5) or WM6 help?
I once placed a 45 minute call and the battery life went down 20% just by doing that.
Am I being too picky?

Rockford_622 said:
I have done the registry edits for better battery life and conditioned the battery properly when I got it. Will a different radio version help (I currently have 1.40.30.00 on WM5) or WM6 help?
I once placed a 45 minute call and the battery life went down 20% just by doing that.
Am I being too picky?
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I've seen people say that some radio's gulp power like crazy, so u cud experiment with different radio's.
I'm on 1.47 rite now and I talk a lot of my phone, use google maps, browse the web, and I charge my phone once every 2 days or so. So its pretty good, i think for the amount of functions the phone has.

I just did a search for battery just in this forum, and in the title of the thread and found a lot of similar complaints so I don't feel so bad now. I also did the registry edit that allows the BAND tab to show under the PHONE settings so I can manually lock my phone to EDGE most of the time and select UMTS only when I prefer the additional speed. One would logically conclude that locking the band would help battery life. We shall see
Radio 1.40.30.00 seems to be a radio version most people are content with so I am stick with it for the time being.

Battery Life
I had an 8125 for almost a year and it was usually good for a day or so.
I recently dropped the 8125 into a cup of water... Amazingly it was not submersible. So now I have the 8525 here in Los Angeles.
The battery life is pretty pathetic. If I unplug the phone in the morning (around 10am) and just carry it around with me without even talking by 2am the phone is letting me know the battery is low.
If I talk on the phone (under an hour) then the phone is dead by 11pm
I use Google Maps for the traffic, and I also have multiple exchange email accounts which check about every 10 minutes.
On days when I actually use the phone and google maps, if I unplug at 10am the phone is dead by 6pm.
At the moment I am running Schnaps 3.60a.
Dave

*All* PocketPC phones will have battery life about as long as yours has.
The problem here is merely that you are trying to compare its battery life to a normal cell phone. For the past 4-5 years, the battery life on Windows PocketPC phones has been about the same.
If you want to compare your PocketPC to another device with regard to battery life, you have to compare it to a laptop and not a cell phone.

Welcome to the future.

I do realize that all of the advanced features will use more juice. I use a HP iPAQ and a Dell Axim at work which both use WM5 and those only get around 4-5 hours of life before they are dead.
It just seems that battery technology is lagging behind the electronic gadgets that use them.
I almost hate leaving the house with the phone being less that fully charged in case I really need it somewhere I am not around a place it can be charged. Suppose a car charger would be in order.

Yes! Crappy Battery Life on the 8525
Yes. I came from an 8125 (ActiveSync on 25/7) and was able to use my phone for 1.5 days. With the 8525, I am lucky to get 6-8 hours. Big bummer!

I locked my 8525 into the Edge network and I believe that my battery life has increased marginally. Of course, this will not work for some people because they need the faster 3G network, but if you would rather have longer battery life, I say give this trick a try. It is really nice if you live in a fringe area where your phone bounces from Edge to 3G and back again frequently.

Doom Tints said:
*All* PocketPC phones will have battery life about as long as yours has.
The problem here is merely that you are trying to compare its battery life to a normal cell phone. For the past 4-5 years, the battery life on Windows PocketPC phones has been about the same.
If you want to compare your PocketPC to another device with regard to battery life, you have to compare it to a laptop and not a cell phone.
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Sorry but you are totaly wrong.
I had a TyTN for 3 monthes. I hardly had more than 24h in standby (no phone, wifi & Co). Phone was only in GSM mode, no UMTS. Tryed a lot of rom/radios.
I sold it, cause this was really too ridiculous.
Now I own a HTC Touch. With same usage and applications installed, I charge my phone only every 4 to 5 days.
12h in standby = only 10% less for battery.
This added to form factor made me very happy, no way I come back to hermes or even kaiser ...

Niki - Battery Life

What's kinds of battery life is everyone getting from the Niki ?
I
have tried three ROMS and three different Radios, and I barely get a full days use (low usage as well) on the battery is down to 30%.
I have GPRS on, but always auto disconnect after 1min, and check my email every 15mins.

I use a diferent battery , original battery has 1150 mAh and my new battery has 1400 mAh

and how much more performance do you get with your 1400 mAh battery?
also where did you buy it and how much?

sebastlim said:
and how much more performance do you get with your 1400 mAh battery?
also where did you buy it and how much?
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I think its a mid day more.
I bought the battery at eBay , 2 batterys aprox 13 €
http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...o=CRX&its=S%2BI%2BSS&itu=ISS%2BUCI%2BSI&otn=4

My original battery lasts 2 days normal use without a problem.
Even with (for me) heavy use and 3G always connected (pushmail)
I get a full day usage.

does it stick out of the back of your device?

with push email 24/7 enabled and GPRS i not even get a full day out of it.
its awful!

excellent I get at least a couple of days use out of it . but when I visit my mother in law I get one day use . its all to do with the strength of the signal strong at home and work so lasts ages but weak at the mother in laws hence only 1 day use.
this is with push mail enabled.
Jeremy

creamhackered said:
does it stick out of the back of your device?
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No , only the 2400/2500 mAh stick out of the back of the device.

Largest Capacity with the same back cover
I found a 1400 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....gory=130787&ssPageName=STORE:PROMOBOX:NEWLIST
Sems a good deal, anyone know of anything larger, without having the change the back cover ?

obsydian said:
I found a 1400 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....gory=130787&ssPageName=STORE:PROMOBOX:NEWLIST
Sems a good deal, anyone know of anything larger, without having the change the back cover ?
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Is the same of my battery.
For the moment , without change back cover , is the max capacity.

Sedio makes 1500 mah, but they're total rip offs. 45 bucks. I bought my 2400mah on ebay for 10 dollars. hehe. It's huge I don't like it like this. But it gives me a full day of 3g. Today i'm trying GPRS only and a lot of usage

Is it the battery who's so weak or is it the phone that uses so much energy so you can use is for only 2 days?
I've already the 2400mah and going to buy the 1400 for more fun

remco18s said:
Is it the battery who's so weak or is it the phone that uses so much energy so you can use is for only 2 days?
I've already the 2400mah and going to buy the 1400 for more fun
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I want to return my 2400 and just get the 1400's. But I also realized that there are some apps that kill my battery, Jivetalk (Alpha with no battery conservation mode yet) totally reaks havoc on my battery. So I'm hoping that 300mah might make a difference .... I'm also thinking of keeping the 2400 for skype days

i flashed tom_codon's rom the other day, and after nearly 12 hours im @ 79% and that's with 3g enabled and emails checking every five minutes, texts, etc.
with my original htc branded rom i'd be at about 30-50% now :S

badaas said:
i flashed tom_codon's rom the other day, and after nearly 12 hours im @ 79% and that's with 3g enabled and emails checking every five minutes, texts, etc.
with my original htc branded rom i'd be at about 30-50% now :S
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Are you sure? Lol. I installed the same ROM and I left it on 3g, and it went down pretty quick . lol.

zkyevolved said:
Are you sure? Lol. I installed the same ROM and I left it on 3g, and it went down pretty quick . lol.
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yeah, positive. tho if signal strength is low it will drain battery quicker. i always have full bars where i am. i still haven't charged since my last post @6:01AM and i'm at 35% now, and that's with playing around with PointUI for a good couple of hours. deffo better battery for me. I don't use too many fancy apps though. just batterystatus, slideactions and HTC home + touchFlo, and always use 'X' tap to close apps and not leave them resident. maybe that helps

[Q] Atom Life Power Question

Hi,
i've got an O2 Atom Life (could also be known as O2 XDA or O2 Comet) and it is a really good quality pocket pc, the only catch is that the battery dies quickly. I own an XP-02 (original battery that came with the phone) and an XP-09 (which is slightly bigger and lasts a bit longer) however they both die fairly quickly. I have left the CPU power to AUTO and set the backlight to 3, the battery can last a good day and a half on standby and if it's not used much, however the whole battery can deplete in 35 minutes while using the 3G/HSDPA network or playing games.
What i am looking for is a way or a setting to keep the battery stronger, i don't want to lower the cpu power because it will lag and i don't want to turn off 3G coverage because i like to use internet.
P.S could it be my charger? :S

In my opinion, i really think that it is the internet usage that is eating up the battery.. xD

Horrible battery life even with extended battery...

The only thing I ha te about this phone is the embarrasing battery life. So I bought an extended battery online with 3000 mAh (double the normal battery) but Im not really noticing a difference, even with a static wallpaper and few widgets and gps turned off, the battery life is still horrible. I get about 8-10 hours worth. Is the a type of power cycle I can do to increase it at all?

hyperbyteX said:
The only thing I ha te about this phone is the embarrasing battery life.
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Lie! Man this phone rocks on battery life. With heavy usage or with medium. With heavy usage it holds on for more then a day. medium gives you atleast 2.
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So I bought an extended battery online with 3000 mAh (double the normal battery) but Im not really noticing a difference, even with a static wallpaper and few widgets and gps turned off, the battery life is still horrible. I get about 8-10 hours worth. Is the a type of power cycle I can do to increase it at all?
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What battery you bought? Are you sure it has the declared 3000mAh ?
And what rom and kernel you are running?

I wouldn't be surprised if your '3000 mah' has minimally more capacity than the stock 1500 mah.
Given that many people post good battery with a wide variety of ROMs/kernels, unless your specific ROM/kernel has a problem I think many of these cases come down to one of two things:
1) usage, the phone will only get 5-7 hours of 'screen-on' usage, period. I was burning through this every day when I first got my shiny new toy, now I use it for about 1-2 hours a day and the battery lasts for 2 days on average. Some 'background' apps can be killer too, for example streaming apps that hit the data and hogs like Tunein radio (which is awesome but actually heats the phone up). In these cases you need to look at your specific usage and adjust usage or expectations.
2) Background crap. Who knows what it is, Facebook, Tango, etc. Last resort is factory reset to get rid of it (although many probably just install the same stuff they had sucking juice before...).
A third reason could be bad reception, especially with always-on data. My phone can idle for many days at my apartment where cell signal is strong and wifi is on. In an area with weak reception and the phone is trying to maintain data connection as well the radio will be sucking up tons of juice. There is no easy solution for this, I don't have much experience with it, perhaps mucking around with modems will help. Juice Defender (data connection manager) may also help it helped my battery life even with good reception but ultimately I don't even need it to go 2 days so I stopped fiddling with it (it has downsides like things are delayed up to 15 min between data connections and also a pause when you unlock phone for data to establish).