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Battery question

for those who have it how long does the battery last with a normal use?(calls,sms and internet)Thank you in advance

No exact figure but I can easily go a day without charging and that's using BT carkit for over 1 hour. About 10 calls - 30 mins total and about 10 SMS.
Sometimes have wifi on also in the evenening to use Agile Messenger.
Gav.

Well the other day I web browsed for 10 minutes over UMTS, watched a TV show for 30 minutes, video called for 30 minutes, played games for 30 minutes and at the end of the day I still had 50% battery left.

Thats great!thank you!

PPCNUT said:
Well the other day I web browsed for 10 minutes over UMTS, watched a TV show for 30 minutes, video called for 30 minutes, played games for 30 minutes and at the end of the day I still had 50% battery left.
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Whoa, I can't agree that battery life is good because it depends which model you have and what software you use with it. I have a week old Cingular 8525 with Goodlink in a UMTS area and I get only 14 hours of battery life with low-moderate use of email alone. I turn it on at 6:45am each morning and power is down to 10-20% by 7-8pm and I've barely used the phone. Not great battery life compared to my 8125, which never died, even with heavy voice and Goodlink email usage.
I haven't traveled with my new 8525 yet but when I use it with heavy calling, I'm sure it wont get more than 12 hours, tops. I just bought a second battery because of this. I know battery life with Goodlink on the 8525 is a known issue, and is one of the reasons Cingular delayed its release, but it's REALLY BAD. I have a feeling Cingular is going to be getting more than a few 8525 returns because of poor battery life. If you use Goodlink on the 8525 you 100% need a second battery using the stock ROM.

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Whoa, I can't agree that battery life is good because it depends which model you have and what software you use with it. I have a week old Cingular 8525 with Goodlink in a UMTS area and I get only 14 hours of battery life with low-moderate use of email alone. I turn it on at 6:45am each morning and power is down to 10-20% by 7-8pm and I've barely used the phone. Not great battery life compared to my 8125, which never died, even with heavy voice and Goodlink email usage.
I haven't traveled with my new 8525 yet but when I use it with heavy calling, I'm sure it wont get more than 12 hours, tops. I just bought a second battery because of this. I know battery life with Goodlink on the 8525 is a known issue, and is one of the reasons Cingular delayed its release, but it's REALLY BAD. I have a feeling Cingular is going to be getting more than a few 8525 returns because of poor battery life. If you use Goodlink on the 8525 you 100% need a second battery using the stock ROM.
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i can concur that my 8525 has horrible battery life, i take mine off the charger around 9am, i dont really make calls, but do use pushmail, and some internet usage, mostly text and email, however mine is usually in need of a charge by 9pm when my low battery alert is coming on.. this is mostly in a UMTS area. My 8125 had far better battery life than this... oh the price we pay for speed

Exactly! That's why I bought an extra battery!
Love the 8525 speed, hate the battery life. I thought Goodlink was the problem, but it sounds like it just adds fuel to the bad battery problem.
If/when an updated rom from cingular comes out, I hope battery life will be the primary fix...

I think its the UMTS thats killing it.. i work in a UMTS area and thats where i see my biggest drain, when i am at home in a Edge area my drain is not nearly as huge, but still a bit more excessive than my 8125

shogunmark said:
I think its the UMTS thats killing it.. i work in a UMTS area and thats where i see my biggest drain, when i am at home in a Edge area my drain is not nearly as huge, but still a bit more excessive than my 8125
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Just my 2 cents: I too believe that searching for/acquiring/holding a UMTS signal might be the cause for such rapid decline in battery power. However, to be fair I must state that 1) I do not live in a UMTS area, but have read similar posts elsewhere 2) I'm a total WM5 newbie(came from a Treo 650 and Moto Razr 3)Am looking forward to travelling to a UMTS area(Texas for me, I live in Oklahoma) to find out if it's all true. Speed/battery drain, etc.
However: I must add, that just this morning. My battery went down to 30% after 3 days usage. No push email/Good, etc. Heavy text messaging, some browsing, and even one phone call that lasted 59 minutes, over speaker phone. Not to mention the other calls, an occasional game of solitaire or bubble breaker. This possible issue is probably why Cingular is looking to release a larger battery in the future, but for me(right now) mine is ok for where I live and what I use it for.

i use my hermes in tokyo umts area and have connection always on for my push mail. i receive around 60 emails, a bit of occasional web browsing and less than 20 minutes making/receiving calls a day. i only turn on wifi and bluetooth when i use them but that's not everyday. i tend to agree that the stock battery life is not good enough as it will go down to like 30% in about 12 hours in my case.
i know that umts and connection always on are draining the battery but that's how i want to use it. instead of carrying a spare battery, i decided to purchase Mugen's 3000mAh battery and have started using it from this morning. it's really good as it still shows 80% left even after using it for over 10 hours already since i tooked it off the charger this morning.

harryk1372 said:
i use my hermes in tokyo umts area and have connection always on for my push mail. i receive around 60 emails, a bit of occasional web browsing and less than 20 minutes making/receiving calls a day. i only turn on wifi and bluetooth when i use them but that's not everyday. i tend to agree that the stock battery life is not good enough as it will go down to like 30% in about 12 hours in my case.
i know that umts and connection always on are draining the battery but that's how i want to use it. instead of carrying a spare battery, i decided to purchase Mugen's 3000mAh battery and have started using it from this morning. it's really good as it still shows 80% left even after using it for over 10 hours already since i tooked it off the charger this morning.
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Hey! Are they available for sale now? Are they in stock? Can you please advise of the website that you used to purchase this battery from? I'm assuming that it comes with the back phone cover, correct? Thanks in advance.

balld said:
Hey! Are they available for sale now? Are they in stock? Can you please advise of the website that you used to purchase this battery from? I'm assuming that it comes with the back phone cover, correct? Thanks in advance.
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yup, but it's only available from a japanese online store at the moment.
http://pocketgames.jp/
I don't believe they will ship to overseas though. just send them a note to confirm. it comes with the back phone cover if you mean it by the replacement battery cover. check it out your self at the site.

I'm only getting 8-10 hours on my TyTN. I'm going to be taking it back!

harryk1372 said:
i use my hermes in tokyo umts area and have connection always on for my push mail. i receive around 60 emails, a bit of occasional web browsing and less than 20 minutes making/receiving calls a day. i only turn on wifi and bluetooth when i use them but that's not everyday. i tend to agree that the stock battery life is not good enough as it will go down to like 30% in about 12 hours in my case.
i know that umts and connection always on are draining the battery but that's how i want to use it. instead of carrying a spare battery, i decided to purchase Mugen's 3000mAh battery and have started using it from this morning. it's really good as it still shows 80% left even after using it for over 10 hours already since i tooked it off the charger this morning.
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Hi Harry- could you post a link to a site to purchase the Mugen 3000mAh battery.
I was searching around and found a 1500mAh battery on Seidioonline (link below). I think I read somewhere (on this site) that advertised power and actual power are 2 very different things, but am encouraged that you are getting 10 hours and are still at 80%!
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=333

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Hi Harry- could you post a link to a site to purchase the Mugen 3000mAh battery.
I was searching around and found a 1500mAh battery on Seidioonline (link below). I think I read somewhere (on this site) that advertised power and actual power are 2 very different things, but am encouraged that you are getting 10 hours and are still at 80%!
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=333
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i'm still at 60% after running it for 25 hours without charging. i'll have to fully discharge it 3 times at least before achieving the stated capacity so i'll have to leave it uncharged for another day. what i'm seeing is definitely more than what i expected.
the link to the site from where i purchased it is pasted in my post above.

mbn said:
Hi Harry- could you post a link to a site to purchase the Mugen 3000mAh battery.
I was searching around and found a 1500mAh battery on Seidioonline (link below). I think I read somewhere (on this site) that advertised power and actual power are 2 very different things, but am encouraged that you are getting 10 hours and are still at 80%!
http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=333
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That 1500 mah battery at Seidio Online seems wonderful, but I couldn't find any references or review that comment on the following:
- If it is compatible with the Hermes (8525/TyTn/etc.)
- If it truly provide 11% more talk/standby time
- If charging it with original Hermes charger will damage the phone in anyway or just simply taking longer to charge.
If any of the above is OK, I'd buy it in a heartbeat and make the original 1360 MAH battery my 2nd battery.

lanwarrior said:
That 1500 mah battery at Seidio Online seems wonderful, but I couldn't find any references or review that comment on the following:
- If it is compatible with the Hermes (8525/TyTn/etc.)
- If it truly provide 11% more talk/standby time
- If charging it with original Hermes charger will damage the phone in anyway or just simply taking longer to charge.
If any of the above is OK, I'd buy it in a heartbeat and make the original 1360 MAH battery my 2nd battery.
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it is compatible with hermes so you don't have to worry about its compatibility. i don't believe it will damage it with the original hermes charger as i have used it for sometime.
with that said, don't expect any significant difference as it has only 150mah advantage and i couldn't even recognize the difference. i don't think it is worth spending the money unless you just want to get a spare battery but just the stock battery is way cheaper for a spare. i recommend all to go for the 3000mah one from mugen if you need longer battery life.

so this weekend i am off work and live in a non 3G area.. and all i can say is what a difference there is in battery consumption.. my phone has been off the charger for almost 6 hours and have had moderate usage and i only just recently hit 90%.. now if i was working today i would have already been at the 50-60% range... For my device i can say that 3G kills my battery life... actually i think my battery life in an "edge only" area is very comparable if not better than my 8125.. but in a 3g area i would get better battery life if i just shorted out the contacts on my battery (newbs that was joke, *DO NOT* short out the contacts on your battery)

I have the Seidio battery. It fits but not as well as the original. The cover bows up slightly when it's installed. Performance is slightly better than the original.

Average business use, couple of hours of calls , some web browsing, push email on, about a day and a half with standard battery.
HTC644 Vario II

Battery Drain

I picked up 2 Touch phones From Bell Canada and I have a question on the power consumption of the phones.
My wifes Phone has 80% battery left at the end of the day and mine has 30%. She has her phone almost stock with only 1 or 2 programs loaded and I loaded like 20 so far on mine.
She uses hers a little and I use mine well a little more then her, 20 minutes browsing plus 30 minutes of text entry, no phone calls on either.
I swapped batteries and the power consumption is the same on each phone.
Also when I played a golf game on mine the other day the phone heated up pretty good.( I might of had a few programs running in the background at the same time)
I am thinking that there might be a fault with my phone and I am hope other people can post there info:
Programs loaded/running Phone /Browsing usage Power consumed in a day

Have you tried hard resetting it and running it without your 20 programs to see if it makes a difference?

no not yet, I guess I could dump most of them and just leave the few I need, good idea, worth a try.

I have the same problem with my Bell Touch
The cause of the battery drain is the constant searching of phone signal reception.
So if you're in an area that you know has a poor Bell Reception, it better to turn off the phone function to save battery.
I live in a basement apartment and i found out that Bell has no reception in my place. one night i charge my Bell Touch at full battery before i sleep but i forgot to turn off my phone function, the next day when i checked it from 100% it went down to just 10%. i used to be with Telus before, and it the same thing very poor reception. but with Rogers in my HTC x7500 im still getting a good 2 bars of phone signal.

ok so today I spent most of the day outside, last night I dump many programs and turned the display down below halfway and I came home with 60%, so there was a differance, I think the biggest differance was the display being dimmer, still I got a 2200 milliamp battery and cover coming from ebay, should be here in a couple of weeks, I think it will be a must if you are active using the phone as a pda. ($15 delivered).

Gazoo22 said:
...I got a 2200 milliamp battery and cover...
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how much thicker does this make the device? how do you like the battery life now -- is it really 2X?

Battery

This may not be an answerable question but it doesn't cost a thing to ask.
I have a used Elf I bought a couple weeks ago. If it is functioning properly and battery is functioning properly what is best and worst battery life I might expect. I know there are a lot of variables, but I'd like a ball park estimate regardless of how your or my phone is set up.
What's the longest time between charge and the shortest you've experienced.
I am breaking in a new battery 18 hours is my best. And sometimes I can see the percentage charged actually drop.
Thanks

Depends on what you are doing with it. My HTC Touch Enhanced only lasts about 4 hours if i have WIFI and Phone on and am using it constantly to watch videos, play games or TomTom Sat Nav. But if its not being used and just has the phone on in standby them it goes for 4 days+ with a few calls or texts. I can often see the battery charge dropping before my eyes so dont worry to much.
In summary WiFi eats the battery and having the screen on and turned up bright takes away the charge very quick. If you just use it like a phone and stop playing with it you will find it will last longer than most mobiles.
Hope this helps

A big handycap of the touch is it's battery mine using wi-fi, tomtom, phone calls and sms last about a day but if i listen to music or watch a concert/video than it lasts about 8h i also must say that i had my elf overclocked and they say that it's battery life is dropping also due to this. I'm now trying something new and don't have my elf overclocked just to see what the batt. usage is...... Can anyone tell me where to buy an 2400ma battery for elf?? I can't use e-bay

It all depends on your usage really...if you use only the phone to make and receive calls that too on light usage....a fully charged battery should last at least 48 hours. But if you use the phone to stream media (youtube etc) or browse, or listen to music and you have extensive phone usage as well...be prepared to get a good ding in your battery life. Given this type of usage, your phone wont last more than 6-8 hours. Wifi and Bluetooth also drain battery big time.

Just a thank you
I appreciate you guys responding and hope more will jump in.
If I had to choose between the size and weight of the Elf and the a better battery life, I'd take the size and weight. Having said that, I moved from an HP RW6815 to the Elf and was really surprised by the battery life of the Elf. I guess I didn't do my due diligence .
Of the 3 main weakness of the Elf - battery life, cpu speed and memory - battery life appears to be the one that not overcomeable.
I read somewhere that battery technology really hasn't kept up.
It will take some management but I'll certainly continue to use the elf with pleasure.

2009 will be a great year because a new technology will be out offering battery charges up to 6400 mA! which is technically 5 times bigger then the current 1390 mA ones But i dont know if the new technology will be used to create those batterys especially for the "old" htc touch
At least i hope it!!!

X10 Power Usage

Hey.
Got my X10 a few days ago,
And im the only one with a power problem ?
Having to recharge it alest once a day ?

My batteri drops aprox 12 % per hour, so I usefully charge 2 times a day.
Since 1AM to now (12AM) it went from 100% - 24%. And Ive been sleeping alot, so the phone hasent been muched used either.

What kind of usage are you partaking in? In my experience most smartphones have to be charged daily.
Here's a post from Esato Forums where someone did an extensive battery drain usage test:
http://www.esato.com/board/printpost.php?post=2933402

The last day Ive been using it minimally, and Im on my second charge for the day. All my other phone last 1 day (6am-12pm) before needing charging. But my X10 needs an aditional charge at about 2-3pm..... And even then is as good as empty at 12pm....
I hope its just a small software bug, or something that could be fixed with a reset. Im starting to enjoy this phone, but there are several days a week, I will not have the time to charge it a second time..
Think Ill go for that reset, and see if that helps....
Anyone else with X10, and batteries that drain extremmely quick?

Mine dies after about 8 hours, but this is usually normal with new batteries, it should be better after a few FULL recharge cycles.

TakenName said:
The last day Ive been using it minimally, and Im on my second charge for the day. All my other phone last 1 day (6am-12pm) before needing charging. But my X10 needs an aditional charge at about 2-3pm..... And even then is as good as empty at 12pm....
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Were your previous phones smartphones, just out of curiosity.
Also, you could try to reduce how often TimeScape polls in the background for updates. That might help.
My current iPAQ 910c lasts a full day if I do nothing but the occassional phone call and SMS. However, if I do anything power intensive the battery fails, and the phone is done until it can get 2 hours or so of charge. But that's why I'm looking to replace it... definitely not normal.

I have access to every phone I want.. And Ive only been using smartphones.
(Currently as in sign.).
I dont use timescape or mediascape, so they have been disabled.
And yet the battery only last for aprox 10 hours....
I never had a phone with such a bad battery, however, Ive never had a phone with such big screen or cpu either....
You gain some, you loose some.
And to he who talked about recharging cycles to maximize battery,
this kind of batteries dosent work that way... They are allready maxed..

I've had mine for a few days now.
The battery's pretty good, I've only charged it once over about four days, so I'm pretty pleased. However, it does seem to use a lot of power if you have wifi on, even in sleep mode.
I've also had no problems with my "a" in either keyboard (Norwegian/Japanese) so far.
I'm still on 14 btw, if anyone's noticted battery dropping after they updated.

roanmy said:
I've had mine for a few days now.
The battery's pretty good, I've only charged it once over about four days, so I'm pretty pleased. However, it does seem to use a lot of power if you have wifi on, even in sleep mode.
I've also had no problems with my "a" in either keyboard (Norwegian/Japanese) so far.
I'm still on 14 btw, if anyone's noticted battery dropping after they updated.
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I would not say that the my battery is good. but it is ok, i haven't had it fully charged yet, since I did get git yesterday. and it did last about 10 hours or so, from 60 or 70%. with playing music, trying out some things etc. but I worked 5,5 of these hours and was in the movie theater 2 of the other hours.
anyways, I haven't really had much problems with the keyboard either, as you said. the only thing that really buggs me is the damn space button. it is too small! :/ I wen't from an X1 to the X10 no, from using HTC magic before that. But I am starting to get really used to the other keys.
I haven't installed the latest build/patch either.

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Just download "spare apps" and see what apps som drain u battery
My X10 take only 6% on 3 hour on normal use

very very bad battery drain! Left mine on flight mode at 2AM with 50% battery left, before going to bed. Woke up at 11AM and the battery was dead with no usage nor cell connection!

massimax said:
very very bad battery drain! Left mine on flight mode at 2AM with 50% battery left, before going to bed. Woke up at 11AM and the battery was dead with no usage nor cell connection!
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A chellphone uses more battery when there is bad reception, because it tries to get a better reception.
Like if there is just edge, the phonei strying to get HSDPA connection instead, this drains more of the battery.
+ With android the phone leaves some of the apps running in the background.
I recommand that you get an app that can shut these down.
Like a task manager kinda..
eg.Advanced Task Manager
I hope this helps ye.
and if you go into "settings - about the phone - Battery usage" then you can see what apps that is draining the most of the battery etc.

ukon said:
A chellphone uses more battery when there is bad reception, because it tries to get a better reception.
Like if there is just edge, the phonei strying to get HSDPA connection instead, this drains more of the battery.
+ With android the phone leaves some of the apps running in the background.
I recommand that you get an app that can shut these down.
Like a task manager kinda..
eg.Advanced Task Manager
I hope this helps ye.
and if you go into "settings - about the phone - Battery usage" then you can see what apps that is draining the most of the battery etc.
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As I wrote before, phone was in standby on flight mode: it means that NOTHING was running nor any 3G data was exchanged. I've had many Android phones (Magic, Hero, Milestone, Nexus, Legend) and in similar conditions they lost only a couple of percentage points of battery, not 50% like X10!! I do love this phone, but heavy battery drains is driving me crazy (and it's definitely not a faulty phone, since I know many many users with the same problem)

roanmy said:
I've had mine for a few days now.
The battery's pretty good, I've only charged it once over about four days, so I'm pretty pleased. However, it does seem to use a lot of power if you have wifi on, even in sleep mode.
I've also had no problems with my "a" in either keyboard (Norwegian/Japanese) so far.
I'm still on 14 btw, if anyone's noticted battery dropping after they updated.
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I actually think the battery is good too. I recharge every other day, which seems to work fine.
I have bluetooth and wifi off, and mostly doing manual updates for timescape. I do surf quite a bit though, and no problems with battery drain. In my experience, my X10 lasts a lot better than a Satio for example.

Strange how half of the people posting here, have very good batteries (1-2 days), and the other half have extremmely bad batteries (8-12 hours).
I doubt the ones with the bad batteries are "worse user" then the ones with the good batteries......

I'm one of those with lousy battery usage. Hardly use the phone, but drains in no time. However I've ordered 4 new batteries, so gonna test all of them and see if there's a pattern.

Grrr.. Was just setting up my contacts to Facebook.. Took around 20 minutes and drained 21% of my battery.. That's just not okay..

I just left it for 2 hours without doing anything and the battery from 90% dropped to 65%. This is not cool at all. SE we need a solution ASAP.

I'm one of those that get bad battery duration on the X10. I usually leave BT and WIFI on as I did in my N97. By observing who drains most of the battery, I get around 30% for the radio in standby and 20% for BT. The processor is only a small percentage (2%) so I don't belive that the snapdragon cpu can be blamed for bad battery duration. How is it possible that Nokias as the N97 having the same communication hw (GPS, WIFI, 3G, BT...) last for days with similar usage and battery capacity? Ok, the procesors are ony half the speed but I don't belive this makes so much difference...
I own a HTC Nexus also and has slightly better battery duration than the X10 but way far form the N97. I've roorted the phone and can change the CPU speed. It makes very little difference on battery duration if you set 400 or 300MHz instead of 1GHz.
So, it seems what makes all android devices so power hungry is the way the OS handles the communication interfaces, I belive most RF chipsets should have similar power drain and CPU's are idling most of the time. Perhaps symbian has a smarter algorithm to hanlde 3G/GSM/WiFi switching and no services polling the network when the phone is in your pocket.

ukon said:
A chellphone uses more battery when there is bad reception, because it tries to get a better reception.
Like if there is just edge, the phonei strying to get HSDPA connection instead, this drains more of the battery.
+ With android the phone leaves some of the apps running in the background.
I recommand that you get an app that can shut these down.
Like a task manager kinda..
eg.Advanced Task Manager
I hope this helps ye.
and if you go into "settings - about the phone - Battery usage" then you can see what apps that is draining the most of the battery etc.
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So seeing i am in an area that does not have 3G I will have a problem with battery drain bcuz it will be constantly be trying to connect to HSDPA?

[Q] horrible battery life! anyone else?

Hi, I been having the HTC Surround for a little over a week now. I love the look and feel to it (I know OS wise it has a lot of improvements to do but I'm willing to put up with it for a bit, considering its a new OS). However one thing I notice is that it has horrible battery life! The phone last about 10/12 Hrs on a full charge. During this time period, there is no heavy use; tops 50 txt messages send and received, about an hour of music, screen lock (brightness set to low, when on), perhaps 15 minutes of talk time, data connection turn off, about 20 minutes of WiFi (I turn off WiFi when not in use), rest of the time on stand by as mention before (with the screen locked). Another thing i noticed yesterday night was that my phone was charge completely, i left it on stand by and within 5 hrs that i slept the phone had gone a little lower than 3/4ths (data connection was off).
I read a post here that said battery may drain quicker when phone is left in cold weather and i thought maybe this could be the case. However I'm really skeptical because i live in Los Angeles. Cold weather, which is this time of the year, is mid 40 degrees at its lowest! That's not cold! But anyways i guess I'll try putting that theory on a test (imma try keeping it warm, see if it makes a difference)
so is anyone else experiencing horrible battery life? Or am I just an unlucky person who got a defective battery?
THANKS in advance

gravewormx said:
Hi, I been having the HTC Surround for a little over a week now. I love the look and feel to it (I know OS wise it has a lot of improvements to do but I'm willing to put up with it for a bit, considering its a new OS). However one thing I notice is that it has horrible battery life! The phone last about 10/12 Hrs on a full charge. During this time period, there is no heavy use; tops 50 txt messages send and received, about an hour of music, screen lock (brightness set to low, when on), perhaps 15 minutes of talk time, data connection turn off, about 20 minutes of WiFi (I turn off WiFi when not in use), rest of the time on stand by as mention before (with the screen locked). Another thing i noticed yesterday night was that my phone was charge completely, i left it on stand by and within 5 hrs that i slept the phone had gone a little lower than 3/4ths (data connection was off).
I read a post here that said battery may drain quicker when phone is left in cold weather and i thought maybe this could be the case. However I'm really skeptical because i live in Los Angeles. Cold weather, which is this time of the year, is mid 40 degrees at its lowest! That's not cold! But anyways i guess I'll try putting that theory on a test (imma try keeping it warm, see if it makes a difference)
so is anyone else experiencing horrible battery life? Or am I just an unlucky person who got a defective battery?
THANKS in advance
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What "theme" are you using?

If I don't use my phone, it will last for days. Even when I use it through out the day, it lasts well into the next morning/afternoon.
The battery life does get better the more you drain/charge it.

dressanderc said:
What "theme" are you using?
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I'm using a black background and lime tiles...

XeNoMoRpH1030 said:
If I don't use my phone, it will last for days. Even when I use it through out the day, it lasts well into the next morning/afternoon.
The battery life does get better the more you drain/charge it.
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well, I been having it for a week now. I seen no difference in battery life. But imma give it another week or so. See if this works. Then I'm gonna try buying different battery. If that doesn't help, I think I'm going to have to switch back to my Samsung Captivate. I would hate doing this, but this type of battery life is a deal breaker. Today, it was even worse! It lasted me only 9hrs while I was at work, which at least 8 of those hrs it was on stand by!

Sounds like you have a bad battery, bro. I'd get it replaced at the store you bought it from.

dressanderc said:
Sounds like you have a bad battery, bro. I'd get it replaced at the store you bought it from.
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yeah, I'm going to try this on my day off which is on Monday. Also gives me time to test out the other persons suggestion
thanks for your opinions. I'll get back to you guys and see what happens.

My surround - now two weeks old is showing much improved battery life. It didn't make it through a day when I first got it. Part of that was due to my fiddling with it and part due - I think - to the battery conditioning.
Now, it is going a full day on a charge. I am also switching off 3G and on WiFi when I am in my office or home. It is a bit of a pain in the butt and I hope that M$ gives up some APIs soon so that someone - cough Bruce Jackson cough - will write an app. We'll see.

I have noticed that the Bluetooth drains the battery considerably faster. Try turning Bluetooth off when you don't need it.

acur8ly said:
I have noticed that the Bluetooth drains the battery considerably faster. Try turning Bluetooth off when you don't need it.
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I don't use the Bluetooth at all. So this can't be the problem. but thanks anyways. (I might need this information since I was planing on using one in the near future).
So I notice that now, my Surround does get better battery life. (which is absolutely crazy! since now I have the screen brightness on medium and data turn on lol). I guess the battery just needed to be use and charge a bit more. However, I still think battery life could be improved. (hopefully, future updates will teak some system settings that will do this)
I have also decided that I will keep my Surround instead of going back to my Captivate I wish battery life would be better and the OS to be more "open" but truth be told, I fell in love with my phone haha Then when i went back to my Samsung Captivate, it felt weird. Android felt much slower.
So i gave it a little test; I launched messaging, email, music, browser, etc on both phones at the same time. Turns out both of them launch these native applications in the same amount of time.
I guess what makes WP7 fell smother and faster is the (eyecandy) transitions.

think its the battery
ya i have had mine for 2 weeks now and i think the problem is the fact that the battery is a 1230mAh, and we also have a samsung focus with a 1450mAh battery that will last an exra 2-3 hours longer which makes a huge difference! im hoping htc will make a larger mAh battery avaliable, mine will only last anywhere from 5-7 hours from normal use

I just ordered a Mugen 1300mah battery..not *much* more capacity, but hopefully it helps a bit!

if i dont use my surround (like not using too much 3g, wifi, music, gaming, and just normal phone calls and texts) it can last a whole day and probably a lil more, but when i do too much 3g/wifi/gaming/music it drains quickkkkkk.
and i do hope htc will have a larger capacity battery for the surround soon... 1230 is kinda small compare to other phones nowadays..
but still this has much better battery life than my previous phones (diamond2 and touchpro)
i just find myself carrying the usb cable and wall charger alot in my bag :]
and having a car charger is a plus also.

My girlfreind has had the phone since xmas. Initially the battery would lose its charge very quickly. I had her do a bump charge and just let the battery settle in. She can now go up a third day wothout the need for a charge with moderate txt.
Be aware the quick drop whenn taking it off the charger is NORMAL. Read this thread for a discussion of that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
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Agree - Bad Battery Life - But not as bad as some....
Smart phones, in general, aren't what I would call great at conserving battery life under any condition. Pick any model of high-end smart phone and tell me who can get more than 2 days (using every trick in the book to eliminate unnecessary drain). Yes, this phone is under-powered in terms of only having a 1300 mAh battery when it should have a 1400 or 1500.
Cut the unnecessary stuff when you are not using it - Bluetooth, WiFi, etc.
You can easily get a day + out of this phone with moderate/mixed use (some talking, some browsing, some multi-media viewing). That's pretty good, I'd say (from my relative experience across many different types of smart phones). I just plug it in every night.....pick it up in the morning and go. Haven't had any issues with it running out during the day.
Now, if you are starting first thing in the morning and running movies, have the bluetooth going, the WiFi on........well, heck yes, you are going to have a battery drain problem. If you want to run it that way.....just leave it plugged in.

Has anyone used a Seidio Innocell 1300mAh Replacement battery? Was wondering if it was worth the investment to improve the Surround's poor battery performance.
Thanks,

So...when is someone gonna step up to the plate and improve battery technology? It really sucks that these phone manufacturers are giving us ALL these fancy features that drain the battery and when we complain about having poor battery life they are telling us to not use all those fancy features...kinda defeats the purpose of buying a smartphone, am I right?

guys .. wake PLZ UP ))
1 ghz (1-2 core cpu ) ..
3.8 and more screen ..
DEDICATED GRAPHICS .
OS .
with DIRECTX9 Interface .
and that all spiced up with 1600 ma battery in best case .
and that you wana to run more then 6 hours on full load ? say THX TO MS .. for NON multitask os .. overwise battery life was even more lol then this

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My surround - now two weeks old is showing much improved battery life. It didn't make it through a day when I first got it. Part of that was due to my fiddling with it and part due - I think - to the battery conditioning.
Now, it is going a full day on a charge. I am also switching off 3G and on WiFi when I am in my office or home. It is a bit of a pain in the butt and I hope that M$ gives up some APIs soon so that someone - cough Bruce Jackson cough - will write an app. We'll see.
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I noticed this as well. As time went by the battery actually started to last longer. When i first got it i used it less than i do now and the battery would die before i even got home for work. Now it lasts till about an hour or so after i finish and get home.

does the surround use the same battery as the HTC desire HD?
Theres an ebay seller that is selling a surround battery and wall charger but the wall charger has a sticker that says: For HTC Desire HD